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Vis
05-03-2012, 09:49 AM
Jason La Canfora ‏ @JasonLaCanfora (https://twitter.com/#%21/JasonLaCanfora) Terrell Suggs has torn his Achilles working out in Arizona. Generally a year injury, likely out for season. Huge blow for Ravens

Vis
05-03-2012, 09:51 AM
LaMarr Woodley ‏ @LaMarrWoodley

Yall kno i strongly dislike the ravens, but i hate hearing about an injury like the suggs 1.. Wishing him a fast recovery...

Vis
05-03-2012, 09:52 AM
Adam Schefter ‏ @AdamSchefter

Blow to Baltimore: Ravens LB Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles playing basketball.

ebsteelers
05-03-2012, 10:08 AM
wow.. major blow..

never wish injuries on another player or team, its crazy how guys can get hurt in the off-season need to put bubble wrap around them..

GMU Steeler
05-03-2012, 10:16 AM
Makes the Upshaw selection all the more important but there is no doubt this is a huge blow to the Ravens D. Lewis may be its face but Suggs was by far the best player on that defense last year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Ravens regress this year.

Vis
05-03-2012, 10:22 AM
Makes the Upshaw selection all the more important but there is no doubt this is a huge blow to the Ravens D. Lewis may be its face but Suggs was by far the best player on that defense last year. Wouldn't be surprised to see the Ravens regress this year.

Good thing they have the best QB in the league

GMU Steeler
05-03-2012, 10:26 AM
Good thing they have the best QB in the league

Indeed.

MACH1
05-03-2012, 10:34 AM
Rumor has it that it happened during the gatorade shower after the first win.

Darthslayrr
05-03-2012, 10:41 AM
Fox Sports post that Terrell Suggs tore his Achilles tendon that will take him out for season.

TRH
05-03-2012, 11:23 AM
wow...that really sucks. If we beat Baltimore, i want to beat them at their best...with Suggs. Suggs definitely ups his game when they play us.
This will be a perfect opening for the Raven fans (if we win and he's out) to say "oh, you guys just beat us because we didn't have Suggs".
You know we'll hear that over and over and over.

Are they allowed to be playing pickup basketball games? If was a coach, i would disallow those. Nothing good ever comes out of them. This isn't the 1st injury from playing basketball off-season.

@troyshair
05-03-2012, 11:25 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7885596/terrell-suggs-baltimore-ravens-tears-achilles-sources-say

Says Suggs tore his ACL during a run and is likely out for the entire 2012 season. This should be a huge blow to the ratbirds defense

Vis
05-03-2012, 11:44 AM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7885596/terrell-suggs-baltimore-ravens-tears-achilles-sources-say

Says Suggs tore his ACL during a run and is likely out for the entire 2012 season. This should be a huge blow to the ratbirds defense


ACL and achilles are not same thing.

JCPsteelers
05-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Suggs has been the most dominant player on that Ravens defense against us. Big loss for Ravens. Wish him well.

Vis
05-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Suggs has been the most dominant player on that Ravens defense against us. Big loss for Ravens. Wish him well.

I still call this the Marino injury.

DG94
05-03-2012, 12:25 PM
Never good to hear about an injury to a player, but it means the new Steelers linemen won't face such a baptism of fire vs the Ravens.

Millers the sh!t
05-03-2012, 01:12 PM
Guess he'll be out for at least 3/4 of the season.

Atlanta Dan
05-03-2012, 01:16 PM
Suggs claims it is a partial tear and that he plans to be back mid-season

The injury occurred in Arizona while Suggs was practicing for an upcoming conditioning test, he said Thursday in a text message.

Suggs initially thought it was a sprain but a doctor determined that it was a partial tear, he said....

Suggs, the AP NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2011, is expected to have surgery as soon as next week. A torn Achilles tendon usually requires a lengthy rehabilitation program, but Suggs has no intention of sitting out the year.

Asked if he will play in 2012, he responded, ""Absolutely," and projected his return to occur in late October or November.

http://www.post-gazette.com/sports/

ricardisimo
05-03-2012, 01:18 PM
I hate when our opponents lose players. Then we never hear the end of the excuses after we beat them. Would have been nice to watch our new O-line hand him a 0-0-0 stat line.

Fire Arians
05-03-2012, 01:18 PM
i don't wish injury on anyone, except tom brady and terrell suggs. awesome

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 01:19 PM
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7885596/terrell-suggs-baltimore-ravens-tears-achilles-sources-say

Says Suggs tore his ACL during a run and is likely out for the entire 2012 season. This should be a huge blow to the ratbirds defense


Suggs partially tore his Achilles tendon, not his ACL. Suggs also believes he will be back by the middle of the season, which seems optimistic to me.

I do agree with you that this will be a huge blow for the Ratbirds defense as he always plays very well against us. Candidates to take over Suggs' spot are Paul Kruger, Sergio Kindle and Michael McAdoo and those guys have nowhere near the impact on a game that Suggs has.

Stu Pidasso
05-03-2012, 01:28 PM
Did he BAWL so hard?

Curtain_of_Steel
05-03-2012, 01:52 PM
Well well well. Now they have something to officially cry about.

Luckily Flacco can carry the team by himself. But now Flacco will want more money on top of being the highest paid QB.
Harbough will play the injury report game and keep listing suggs as a game day decision, lol Harbough was just seen crying in the hallway, WHY ME, WHY ME.

Millers the sh!t
05-03-2012, 01:53 PM
i don't wish injury on anyone, except tom brady and terrell suggs. awesome

Ha ha ha... Nice! Thanks for the laugh.

steelpower12
05-03-2012, 02:26 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/05/03/terrell.suggs.ap/index.html?sct=hp_t2_a2&eref=sihp

Achilles tear!! Out for the season but he says he will be back...whatever!!! Got to put a small smile on true Steelers fans!

Fire Arians
05-03-2012, 02:35 PM
Well well well. Now they have something to officially cry about.

Luckily Flacco can carry the team by himself. But now Flacco will want more money on top of being the highest paid QB.
Harbough will play the injury report game and keep listing suggs as a game day decision, lol Harbough was just seen crying in the hallway, WHY ME, WHY ME.

yeah the ravens are fortunate that they have the best quarterback in the league! :chuckle:

TRH
05-03-2012, 02:59 PM
already a thread for this going on in the "NFL" section.

I don't think it puts smiles on our faces over here, though. We want to beat the Ravens when they're at their best.....leaving no room for excuses or debate. We would much rather beat them with Suggs playing.

Vis
05-03-2012, 03:02 PM
already a thread for this going on in the "NFL" section.

I don't think it puts smiles on our faces over here, though. We want to beat the Ravens when they're at their best.....leaving no room for excuses or debate. We would much rather beat them with Suggs playing.

I'm of two minds on this. I don't want him hurt. I'd rather the Ravens cut Suggs. He'd look good in black and gold....

steelpower12
05-03-2012, 03:07 PM
ESPN would say...COME ON MAN!!! You think they were not smiling when Ben was out for suspension? I for one don't wish any injury on anyone but please you play with what you got and if you don't have a starting DE or QB then so be it. So we win by 21 pts this year without Suggs...is it because Suggs was not there? I doubt it!

steelpower12
05-03-2012, 03:09 PM
Oh and last I saw this was just a Steeler forum and plenty of out of place threads...did you police them too?

SoCalFan
05-03-2012, 03:13 PM
I would like them to be 100% as well, but I gotta say it will be nice to not have to see his gums!!! I REALLY dislike the guy!

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 03:13 PM
Ravens fans are not worried.

after all, they still have the NFL's best QB remember? :doh:

pancake
05-03-2012, 03:16 PM
Wow, bad news for the ratbirds. I never wish injury on anyone, but with Lewis and Reed getting old, this team might take a step back without Suggs pass rushing. Only good news is maybe we can block him now that he will be on the side lines. My guess is that bengals fans are happy.

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 03:17 PM
I would like them to be 100% as well, but I gotta say it will be nice to not have to see his gums!!! I REALLY dislike the guy!


I dislike Suggs also, but I do respect him.

LambertWardSteel
05-03-2012, 03:24 PM
Ravens fans are not worried.

after all, they still have the NFL's best QB remember? :doh:

:sofunny:

AgentGold007
05-03-2012, 03:25 PM
I don't wish injury on anyone, nor do I celebrate it, even if it happens to a scum bag raven. Those things have a way of coming back and biting people in the ass. I think the Steelers are better than the Baltimore browns even with Suggs, and I'd much rather prove it with him on the field, so there is no excuses, no doubt. But it is what it is. If he's out for the season, so be it.

Steelerfreak58
05-03-2012, 03:43 PM
Almost 100% positive his career is OVER. Sad news he was a great OLB. That kind of injury and the position he plays and its pretty much a career ending injury. If he does come back and play it will never be like he was before.

Steel Peon
05-03-2012, 04:00 PM
It's always good to know ahead of time what the Raven's #1 excuse is going to be this year for not winning it all.

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 04:03 PM
what Ben thinks of this news:

http://www.examiner.com/images/blog/wysiwyg/image/Ben_Roethlisberger2%281%29.jpg

Steelersfan87
05-03-2012, 04:08 PM
They still have Paul Kruger, Sergio Kindle (who should finally be able to play), and now Courtney Upshaw.

Men of Steel
05-03-2012, 04:31 PM
I don't wish injury on anyone, nor do I celebrate it, even if it happens to a scum bag raven. Those things have a way of coming back and biting people in the ass. I think the Steelers are better than the Baltimore browns even with Suggs, and I'd much rather prove it with him on the field, so there is no excuses, no doubt. But it is what it is. If he's out for the season, so be it.

^^ this right here man... :thumbsup:

the sad thing is... how did he hurt his achilles thendon, playing bball??

that suuuuuuucks i cant imagine the thought of playing pro football, the most violent sport in america, where injuries are almost impossible to avoid, but then gets a season ending, possibly a carreer affecting injury like this, because of a game of... basketball?

oh well... :drink:

MACH1
05-03-2012, 04:41 PM
C'mon people lets keep this in the NFL forum thread that was already started.

pancake
05-03-2012, 04:41 PM
They still have Paul Kruger, Sergio Kindle (who should finally be able to play), and now Courtney Upshaw.

None of those guys are Suggs, who has gave Steelers fits for years...

Fire Arians
05-03-2012, 05:05 PM
I'm of two minds on this. I don't want him hurt. I'd rather the Ravens cut Suggs. He'd look good in black and gold....

no he wouldn't, that mother****er ugly. he wouldn't look good in anything unless they give him a motorcycle helmet that covers his whole face

Timbo
05-03-2012, 05:25 PM
(edited for acting like I had breaking news)

I will miss that rivalry between Suggs and Big Ben this season. Sucks to see him go down like this in his prime, too. No matter how much you hate the big monster he is one the best linebackers of his generation.

To anybody worried about jinxes or bad karma for celebrating his injury.... c'mon, man. The Steelers will have their own injuries regardless, like they do every year. And if you want to be polite, I respect that. But go check the Ravens boards from Ben's bike wreck and see how much respect they deserve. I live in Maryland and deal with it in person. So yeah, I respect the shit out of the dude, but I chuckled at the news. Actually, I have some calls to make...

Buddha Bus
05-03-2012, 06:10 PM
Did he BAWL so hard?

I hear he's transferring to Crawl So Hard University this semester. :wink02:

TRH
05-03-2012, 06:10 PM
I'm of two minds on this. I don't want him hurt. I'd rather the Ravens cut Suggs. He'd look good in black and gold....



i'd actually agree with you there. People here hate him...but you KNOW if he signed with us down the road and wore our colors....people would LOVE him. He plays like a Steeler. (and no people, i dont' like the guy)
Not going to happen, but if it did, Steeler fans would definitely be "in".

Steelersfan4life0655
05-03-2012, 06:29 PM
that sucks for any player for or against our team. i see the raven's d regressing with the absence of sizzle.

MasterOfPuppets
05-03-2012, 06:52 PM
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/entry_photo_images/3919956/137557605_extra_large.jpg

SHHHHH....did anyone else hear that ? sounded like something tearing....ooooooowwwwwiiiiieeeeee

:sofunny:

tony hipchest
05-03-2012, 07:12 PM
They still have Paul Kruger, Sergio Kindle (who should finally be able to play), and now Courtney Upshaw.

meh... none of whom are going to be picking up that DPOY hardware anytime soon.

plus they are replacing jarrett johnson as well. so they have a rookie, a skull fracture going through his first career offseason workouts, and paul "nobody knows who i am kruger.

anyways t. fizzle says he's coming back and the league placed their games vs the steelers late in the season 3 weeks apart.

but if his career is over its kinda funny that will be the last image of him on the field-



QOhJawoc5-Y

Steel Peon
05-03-2012, 08:22 PM
Rumor has it that it happened during the gatorade shower after the first win.
Ha ha! Now that's funny!

Hawaii 5-0
05-03-2012, 11:24 PM
Ravens consider themselves lucky they took Upshaw

Posted by Mike Florio on May 3, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/ncg_g_upshaw_600.jpg?w=250

The Achilles tendon injury suffered by Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs illustrates the one NFL reality that is both inevitable and completely unknowable. Players will get hurt. We just don’t know who will be injured.

A source with knowledge of the situation tells PFT that the Ravens considers themselves lucky, given that the Ravens selected Alabama linebacker Courtney Upshaw with its first pick in the 2012 draft, after trading down from the 29th pick in round one. The Ravens could have gone in many different directions; it was pure fortuity that they opted to pick someone who plays a position of sudden and clear need.

Actually, the Ravens may have been better off to have had the injury happen after the draft. The Ravens, we’re told, would have been far less likely to trade down if Suggs had been injured before the draft. So they were instead able to trade down, get the guy they would have picked at No. 29, and picked up extra consideration for sliding back.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/03/ravens-consider-themselves-lucky-they-took-upshaw/

tony hipchest
05-04-2012, 12:04 AM
Actually, the Ravens may have been better off to have had the injury happen after the draft. The Ravens, we’re told, would have been far less likely to trade down if Suggs had been injured before the draft. So they were instead able to trade down, get the guy they would have picked at No. 29, and picked up extra consideration for sliding back.

actually the ravens may have been better off if lee evans didnt drop the pass or billy cundiff didnt shank the kick, cause then they woulda been drafting #31 or #32, and still get the guy they would have picked at #29. :sofunny:

funny how that works.

Wallace108
05-04-2012, 01:31 AM
This is sad. I guess they're going to have to put ol' horse face down now. And just a few days before the Kentucky Derby. :shake01:

jjpro11
05-04-2012, 01:31 AM
meh... none of whom are going to be picking up that DPOY hardware anytime soon.

plus they are replacing jarrett johnson as well. so they have a rookie, a skull fracture going through his first career offseason workouts, and paul "nobody knows who i am kruger.

anyways t. fizzle says he's coming back and the league placed their games vs the steelers late in the season 3 weeks apart.

but if his career is over its kinda funny that will be the last image of him on the field-



QOhJawoc5-Y

not to mention Lewis is another year older.

IowaSteeler927
05-04-2012, 04:01 AM
This is sad. I guess they're going to have to put ol' horse face down now. And just a few days before the Kentucky Derby. :shake01:

I lol'd so hard at this comment.

LVSteelersfan
05-04-2012, 10:24 AM
I also don't wish injuries on any player. But he is public enemy number 1 around here. His demeanor is putrid. But I guess that comes from being a Raven. I see the Ravens regressing as they will not be able to get to Ben this year. I predict Ben will have another one of those 5 TDs in the first half games against them like he did a few years ago if Suggs is truly out for the season.

jtbsteeler
05-04-2012, 01:43 PM
The Ratbird fans praised their maker when Woodley went out against the Patriots last season. He was on a "tear" before he hurt his hammy.

I have no sympathy for the Ratbirds or their fans. I think Woodley would've made a difference on that last drive in Pittsburgh. With that win we would've had the #1 seed and possibly another freaking SB. So I have ZERO f'ing sympathy for those turds.

MasterOfPuppets
05-04-2012, 02:36 PM
This is sad. I guess they're going to have to put ol' horse face down now. And just a few days before the Kentucky Derby. :shake01:
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2008/05/20/donkey1.jpg

cubanstogie
05-04-2012, 09:44 PM
phuk Suggs, I could care less.

PeRK82
05-08-2012, 01:49 AM
wow...that really sucks. If we beat Baltimore, i want to beat them at their best...with Suggs. Suggs definitely ups his game when they play us.
This will be a perfect opening for the Raven fans (if we win and he's out) to say "oh, you guys just beat us because we didn't have Suggs".
You know we'll hear that over and over and over.

Are they allowed to be playing pickup basketball games? If was a coach, i would disallow those. Nothing good ever comes out of them. This isn't the 1st injury from playing basketball off-season.

If that's not calling the Kettle Black , i dont know what is. Unreal

Hawaii 5-0
05-13-2012, 10:42 PM
Courtney Upshaw: You can’t replace Terrell Suggs

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 13, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/courtneyupshaw.jpg?w=140

When the Ravens lost linebacker Terrell Suggs to an Achilles tendon injury, they were considering themselves lucky that they drafted Alabama linebacker Courtney Upshaw the day before Suggs got hurt.

But that doesn’t mean Upshaw sees himself as Suggs’ replacement. Upshaw doesn’t think anyone can replace Suggs.

“The coaches told me to come out here this mini-camp and learn the defense, come out here and compete,” Upshaw told Ian Rapoport of NFL.com. “Honestly, speaking on Suggs, there’s only one Suggs. You can’t replace Suggs. Everybody’s got to come in as a team. The veteran leadership on this team is not going to allow slacking on my part or anybody else’s. Everybody’s gotta step up.”

Upshaw is right, of course, that no one can replace everything Suggs does in the Ravens’ defense. Suggs wasn’t named Defensive Player of the Year last season because he’s expendable.

But the Ravens, who are optimistic that Suggs will play at some point during the 2012 season, got a rookie who has many of the same skills that Suggs brings to the table when they drafted Upshaw.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/13/courtney-upshaw-you-cant-replace-terrell-suggs/

Hawaii 5-0
05-16-2012, 09:26 PM
Terrell Suggs, Peters to lose pay?

Updated: May 16, 2012
By Chris Mortensen | ESPN

Philadelphia Eagles tackle Jason Peters and Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs, two All-Pro players who have suffered offseason Achilles injuries that have put part or all of their 2012 seasons in jeopardy, may lose millions of dollars in salary because both fall under the nonfootball-injury provision of the collective bargaining agreement.

The applicable wording in the CBA, Article 20, Section 3 provision states: "A player who is placed on a Nonfootball injury or Illness list ("N-F/I") is not entitled to any compensation under his contract while on such list ..."

Both players have claimed they were injured during off-site training sessions, but league and union sources agree that any injury sustained that does not occur at the team's facility or under its direction is considered a "Nonfootball injury."

The Eagles and Ravens may act in accordance with their own wishes and pay the players all or a portion of their salaries. League sources say both Peters and Suggs are facing a financial reduction in 2012.

Suggs underwent surgery May 7 to repair a partially torn Achilles, which he claimed he suffered while training in Arizona. Suggs said he expects to return sometime during the coming season.

Suggs' case appears slightly more complicated because he has a partially torn Achilles and has said he believes he will return by October or shortly thereafter. If he were placed on the PUP list when the season begins, he would be required to miss at least the first six games. It is conceivable the Ravens could not pay him those six game checks from his $4.9 million base salary.

Technically, as the CBA states, the teams are not obligated to pay any salary due Peters and Suggs, but sources say both are such vital players and in otherwise good standing with their respective organizations that it appears unlikely the teams would take such drastic action. The Eagles and Ravens also want Peters and Suggs motivated to rehab diligently from their injuries.

Both players have significant offseason workout bonuses and escalator clauses at risk. Peters has a $100,000 workout bonus and a $250,000 roster bonus. Suggs has a $250,000 escalator clause for the 2013 season. However, league sources say Suggs is contemplating a restructuring or extension of his contract when he is healthy that would reflect his status among the league's players after he was voted The Associated Press' NFL Defensive Player of the Year in 2011.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7937529/baltimore-ravens-terrell-suggs-philadelphia-eagles-jason-peters-forfeit-millions

Galax Steeler
05-17-2012, 05:31 AM
I know players have to have fun but to loose millions of dollars it is not worth it.

steelax04
05-17-2012, 09:05 AM
I would highly doubt that the Ravens don't give him some sort of compensation... As fans, we may "hate" them, but they're not a shitty organization like that. He's been such an integral part of that team, I just can't see it happening.

Hawaii 5-0
05-25-2012, 12:09 AM
Paul Kruger gets first crack at replacing Suggs

Posted by Evan Silva on May 24, 2012

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/paul-kruger-pic-e1337904023448.jpg?w=190

In the Ravens’ 2011 defense, Terrell Suggs played roughly half of his snaps at outside linebacker, and the other half at defensive end. Suggs tore his Achilles’ tendon earlier this month, and the Ravens are now trying to replace those snaps.

While much of the early speculation centered on rookie linebacker Courtney Upshaw, Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times reports that former second-round pick Paul Kruger is getting the first crack at Suggs’ rush linebacker position.

“It’s early to say what will happen,” conceded Kruger, “but this is what we’re doing now. I’m told where I’m going to line up and I do it.”

Kruger recorded a career-high 5.5 sacks last season, and is more familiar with coordinator Dean Pees’ defense than Upshaw. Upshaw is practicing at strong-side linebacker — Jarret Johnson’s old position. Johnson is now a San Diego Charger.

Kruger certainly won’t lack motivation to excel in what Suggs patented as a highly productive and active position in Pees’ system. It’s the last year of Kruger’s rookie contract, and he could strike it rich on the 2013 free agent market with a breakout season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/24/paul-kruger-gets-first-crack-at-replacing-suggs/

BigRick
05-25-2012, 10:28 PM
As bad as i dislike the Ratbirds I hate to see this happen to anyone. Makes it so much better when we beat them with their best players on the field.:tt03:

Atlanta Dan
06-05-2012, 05:39 PM
Ruh-roh

Despite continuing to say he tore his right Achilles tendon during conditioning drills, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs injured his right lower leg playing basketball on Sunday, April 29, according to staff members who attended a three-day basketball tournament in which Suggs played that weekend.

"He got hurt Sunday prior to the (basketball tournament) championship game," said Herman (Sonny) Hoffman, the director of the Akchin Gymnasium in Maricopa, Ariz., where the tournament was held....

When told Tuesday of the comments by staff members at the basketball tournament, Suggs told ESPN through his agent, Joel Segal: "Simply not true. I hurt myself doing my conditioning test."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8013339/terrell-suggs-baltimore-ravens-was-hurt-playing-basketball-witnesses-say

The fact that Suggs continues to maintain he was hurt in a "conditioning drill" indicates Suggs knows there could be big $$ at stake if he tore his achilles playinbg recreational hoops

Bayz101
06-05-2012, 05:53 PM
Ruh-roh

Despite continuing to say he tore his right Achilles tendon during conditioning drills, Baltimore Ravens linebacker Terrell Suggs injured his right lower leg playing basketball on Sunday, April 29, according to staff members who attended a three-day basketball tournament in which Suggs played that weekend.

"He got hurt Sunday prior to the (basketball tournament) championship game," said Herman (Sonny) Hoffman, the director of the Akchin Gymnasium in Maricopa, Ariz., where the tournament was held....

When told Tuesday of the comments by staff members at the basketball tournament, Suggs told ESPN through his agent, Joel Segal: "Simply not true. I hurt myself doing my conditioning test."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8013339/terrell-suggs-baltimore-ravens-was-hurt-playing-basketball-witnesses-say

The fact that Suggs continues to maintain he was hurt in a "conditioning drill" indicates Suggs knows there could be big $$ at stake if he tore his achilles playinbg recreational hoops

If he hurt himself outside of organized team activities, they don't have to pay him, correct?

He's going to maintain that he hurt himself doing something related to the team so that he keeps his salary. NFL will probably investigate.

Atlanta Dan
06-05-2012, 06:26 PM
If he hurt himself outside of organized team activities, they don't have to pay him, correct?

He's going to maintain that he hurt himself doing something related to the team so that he keeps his salary. NFL will probably investigate.

Even if he was hurt working out away from the facilities it would not be an OTA - but it is one thing to blow out your achilles while working on conditioning and another while in a recreational activity - teams are less forgiving about the latter

TRH
06-06-2012, 12:19 AM
he's likely lying about the incident. Could be a lot of dollars affected. But how does the team prove otherwise?

Hawaii 5-0
06-06-2012, 02:16 PM
T-Sizzle Still Under Fire About Ankle

Jun 5th, 2012 by CraigSteelers

http://nicepickcowher.com/files/2012/06/5899770.jpg?e98d57

I’m the kind of ‘funny man’ that whenever I hurt myself doing something stupid, I say things like ‘You think I look bad, you should see the other guy.’ And, then eventually I fess up to the idiotic thing I did that put me in a full body cast (note: I’ve never been in a body cast, but I hear they itch a lot). Or, I sometimes go for the ‘glorified’ story and make up some event like ‘I was being hunted by three zombies. I bashed in their heads pretty badly and that’s why my arm is in this sling…. you know… from hitting them so hard.’

Turns out only mild mannered men like myself can get away with such things – a chuckle at best, a room full of groans at worst. When someone like Terrell Suggs does something like this, it could mean the difference between getting paid or looking for work elsewhere while he heals on the sidelines.

In case you don’t really cover or care about the other teams in the AFC North, Terrell Suggs tore his achilles while playing basketball….er….. conditioning drills…. er…… saving a nun…. er….. kicking a baby….. The story first broke that it was while playing basketball – told by outside sources. In the end, Suggs stuck with the injury taking palce during conditioning drills. Looks like he’ll have to either rethink that story once again or possibly face some trouble by the Ravens. They could possibly keep from paying him anything because the injury was a non-football related one.

I’ll be interested to keep on this one – because after all, what’s better than a Raven not playing football? A Raven not playing AND not getting paid because he did something stupid.

http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/06/05/t-sizzle-still-under-fire-about-ankle/

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06-25-2012, 07:30 PM
Terrell Suggs, His Career Against The Steelers, And What His Absence Could Mean In 2012

Jun 23rd, 2012 by DomSteelers

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Earlier in the week, Jamison Hensley of ESPN wrote a post on the subject of Terrell Suggs’ Achilles injury, and how Steelers players had not reveled in Suggs’ and Baltimore’s misfortune. Granted, it never puts a smile on my face to see somebody’s season end with an injury, and I can say with full effect that seeing an ultimate competitor like Suggs go down sort of takes a bit away from the current Steelers vs. Ravens rivalry. However, I do understand what the loss of Suggs means to Baltimore’s Defense and team as a whole from a leadership and statistical standpoint. Thus, today I would like to discuss Suggs’ success against Pittsburgh over his career, and why I believe that his absence might be the key to the tipping of the balance of power in the A.F.C. North back in the Steelers’ direction this season.

How Awesome Has Suggs Been from 2003-Present Against the Steelers?

Even if you have watched the Steelers with a passing interest over the last decade, or have even lived under a rock for most of the 2000′s, you still would know that Terrell Suggs has played like an absolute monster against Pittsburgh over his first nine seasons. And when I say “monster” I mean it, the guy has just shown up when both teams have played. As much as it pains me to say it, but kudos must go to Suggs and the fact that he (and some of his other teammates) has brought his “A Game” essentially every time both of these rivals have clashed during his career. How good has Suggs been from statistical and overall impact standpoints though?

Let’s take a look:

Over his career, Suggs has logged 13.5 Sacks and made two extremely key Interceptions which led to Ravens victories. The first of which led to a game winning Field Goal in Overtime in 2005 and almost helped to derail a Super Bowl season for Pittsburgh. The second of which helped to thwart a Pittsburgh drive deep into Baltimore territory last season. You remember that one don’t you? Where Suggs along with every other person at Heinz Field and who watched at home read the patented “Bubble Screen” which to his credit Suggs read and subsequently snagged on an athletic play.

As for the Sack numbers, those really speak for themselves as Suggs has been Baltimore’s most lethal pass-rushing threat for almost his entire career. With Haloti Ngata eating Offensive Linemen for lunch and taking on double-teams up front for the last six seasons, Suggs has flourished as an all-around beast off the edge.

Compounding Suggs’ recent production in terms of the havoc he has wreaked off the edge has been Pittsburgh’s declining play at Tackle during the last three to four seasons. When matched up against an oft-injured Max Starks, an ineffective Jonathan Scott, and an elderly once-Pro Bowler in Flozell Adams, Suggs has mostly had his way with them. And if you take away some of Big Ben’s most awesome “escapes,” (the one where he shook Suggs off in the 4th in Baltimore in 2010), Suggs might even have more Sacks against the Steelers. Yet the regular season is not the only place where Suggs has showed up against Pittsburgh. In fact, Suggs has taken his game to even more ridiculous levels against the Steelers when the stakes have been at their highest: the postseason.

In two playoff games against the Steelers, Suggs has logged 5.0 Sacks, forced a Fumble which went for a Touchdown, and played overall good football. I know that I feel a bit dirty as an Arizona alumni and a Steelers fan to tip my cap to a former Sun Devil and current Ravens player, but credit must be given when it is due, especially after that 2010 Divisional Playoff Game at Heinz Field. After that wacky yet exciting contest on that cold afternoon, I actually felt bad for Suggs as he left the field that day. Suggs notched 3.0 Sacks and forced the fumble which went for a Touchdown and helped the Ravens take their first lead in the game. It was more Baltimore’s Offensive miscues which let Pittsburgh back into the game, not the Ravens’ Defense. Sure, Antonio Brown was allowed to convert that 3rd and 19 bomb, but that game should never have gotten to that point in the first place had Borat, Rice, and Cameron done their jobs.

How the Steelers Can Take Advantage

I am sure many of you are saying: “Sure, Suggs is out. But does that mean the Steelers will take advantage? Baltimore’s Defense might be old, but they still perform at a high level.” While those things are true, Pittsburgh is in quite a position to use Suggs’ absence as a positive for themselves this season.

Helping out with the fact that Suggs will likely be sidelined for both meetings this season is that Pittsburgh might have finally found some adequate depth as well as terrific talent along their Offensive Line. Marcus Gilbert and Mike Adams are the most gifted players that the Steelers have had at the Tackle position in a very long time, and figure to be the bookend Tackles for quite some time. Plus, with the interior of their Line being shored up with a hopefully healthy Willie Colon, Rookie David DeCastro, and All-Pro Center Maurkice Pouncey, the Steelers actually have something for Offensive Line Coach Sean Kugler to work with in the coming seasons.

Also working in the Steelers’ favor is the fact that they appear to have an Offensive Coordinator which will attempt to tailor his game-plans to his team’s strengths on that side of the ball. No more Ben being at the mercy and taking 5 to 7-step drops against Baltimore and being at the mercy of Suggs, Ngata, and the rest of their pass rushers. Haley will hopefully try to protect Big Ben against teams like Baltimore who want to get after him, and get the ball out of Ben’s hand in a timely manner. And hey, it does not hurt that the Steelers have some incredibly talented guys at the skill positions.

Yet the thing which the Steelers can take the most advantage of is the fact that Baltimore has almost no experienced depth at Outside Linebacker. Not only has Suggs been shelved for the immediate future, veteran Jarret Johnson went to San Diego as a Free Agent, and youngster Michael McAdoo is also out for the year with an Achilles injury as well. Baltimore’s pass rush and the slack left by Suggs which needs to be picked up will be left up to 2012 2nd Round pick Courtney Upshaw, the underachieving Paul Kruger, and Sergio Kindle, a guy which has yet to play any sort of significant football for Baltimore since being drafted in the 2nd Round in 2010.

While I do like Upshaw quite a bit, I am not as sold on this group as a whole being able to replace Suggs’ statistical production on the field. Furthermore, I am not sold in the least of either of these players being able to replace Suggs as a pass-rusher and matchup nightmare this season. In time, I believe Upshaw could develop into that player, but similar to the Steelers’ Mike Adams at Tackle, we will see what happens.

Final Thoughts

This post is by no means a statement or belief that the Steelers will hang 30+ points per game on Baltimore in their 2 or more meetings this season. I am simply stating that because one of the biggest thorns in Pittsburgh’s side over the decade is missing, things should at least be a bit better for Big Ben and the Steelers’ Offense when going up against the Ravens in 2012. It is my belief that Suggs’ absence could hurt Baltimore much more than they think this season, and it could cost them even more when they play the division rival Steelers, a team which Suggs has played arguably his best football against over the course of his terrific career. To me, with their improved Offensive Line and solid Offensive personnel (pending Mike Wallace signing of course through this season), Pittsburgh is in a prime spot to overtake the Ravens this season for control in the division, and take advantage of Suggs’ possible absence.

http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/06/23/terrell-suggs-his-career-against-the-steelers-and-what-his-absence-could-mean-in-2012/

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08-27-2012, 04:04 PM
Ravens place Terrell Suggs on PUP

Updated: August 27, 2012
ESPN.com news services

The Baltimore Ravens placed linebacker Terrell Suggs on the physically unable to perform list Monday.

Players placed on the PUP list must sit out their team's first six games, which means the earliest Suggs could return is Oct. 21 versus the Houston Texans. However, he is expected to miss at least the first half of the 2012 season, if not more, after tearing his Achilles in April.

If Suggs is unable to return after the Ravens' sixth game, he can practice up to three weeks from then before the Ravens must decide whether to place him on the active roster. The five-time Pro Bowl linebacker had surgery May 8 to repair his torn Achilles.

The Ravens placed Suggs on the PUP list among moves they made Monday to get to the NFL roster limit of 75 players by 4 p.m. ET. NFL teams must get to the regular-season limit of 53 players by 9 p.m. ET on Friday.

Suggs had 14 sacks last season in helping the Ravens reach the AFC title game. He was voted The Associated Press Defensive Player of the Year and invited to the Pro Bowl.

Suggs has played in all 16 games in eight of his nine NFL seasons, missing three games in 2009 with a knee injury.

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