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mesaSteeler
05-03-2012, 11:07 PM
Draft fallout: Did Pittsburgh Steelers fix their O-line?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828d8d9a/article/draft-fallout-did-the-pittsburgh-steelers-fix-their-oline

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Around The League editor

Guard David DeCastro might have been the safest home-run pick in the entire first round. If guards got drafted in the top 10, DeCastro would have gone in the top 10. He fills a huge need as a plug-and-play Week 1 starter, and coach Mike Tomlin said DeCastro could play right guard or left guard. He immediately should be the best guard on the team.

For the first time since 1968, the Steelers drafted back-to-back offensive linemen when Mike Adams fell to them in the second round. Last year's second-round pick, Marcus Gilbert, got a lot of starting experience at right tackle in 2011. It's expected that Gilbert will move to the left side this year, with Willie Colon back from injury on the right side. Suddenly, Pittsburgh has enviable depth at a usually weak position.

Throw in center Maurkice Pouncey, and the beleaguered Steelers line now actually might be a weapon. Ben Roethlisberger hasn't been the problem in Pittsburgh, and now he'll have a better chance to shine.

"Really, the last three days unfolded very well for us," general manager Kevin Colbert said at the end of the draft. "We got a lot of players we targeted."

With the Baltimore Ravens' pass rush diminished, the Steelers once again look like favorites in the AFC North.

tanda10506
05-04-2012, 01:42 AM
Throw in center Maurkice Pouncey, and the beleaguered Steelers line now actually might be a weapon. Ben Roethlisberger hasn't been the problem in Pittsburgh, and now he'll have a better chance to shine.


This is what I am hoping for. IF the O line turns out as good as it looks and IF the new offensive scheme "clicks", then I think Ben and our WR/TE weapons can get 5,000 yards passing and have an efficient run game. It may sound crazy to some, but many of us have been saying that if Ben had a great O line his stats would be as good as Brady, Breeze, etc., and IF everything "clicks" I think he can show everybody that. The passing in the NE game this previous year was a prime example of the potential Ben and this offense have, and now with an O line that will give Ben even more time then in that game, and a running game thanks to that O line which will take the pressure off the passing game, the potential is huge. With as good as some of the "elite" QB's WR/TE's are, I would still take Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, and Miller over ANY other WR/TE group. Ben might not have as much natural "football intelligence" as Brady/Manning but his seasons generally end better then theirs in spite of it. This year he and the team are set on changing his style of play, he will mold into a hard working, film studying QB, and with our weapons it can be done. IF everything goes correctly this will be an exciting offense.

Steel Peon
05-04-2012, 09:41 AM
Did Pittsburgh Steelers fix their O-line?.

Our O-line was like a rust bucket of a truck that was serviceable only because the mechanical components inside were in such good shape. The old body and frame have been replaced with new ones, so it's less of a fix and more of an upgrade......anything is better at this point.

And now all of a sudden, it makes perfect sense to me why the Browns team colors resemble rust.......anyone taken a drive down the Ohio north coast lately? Rust belt indeed!:chuckle:

Vis
05-04-2012, 09:46 AM
To answer the question in the title:

If healthy.

dyce23
05-04-2012, 10:42 AM
This is what I am hoping for. IF the O line turns out as good as it looks and IF the new offensive scheme "clicks", then I think Ben and our WR/TE weapons can get 5,000 yards passing and have an efficient run game. It may sound crazy to some, but many of us have been saying that if Ben had a great O line his stats would be as good as Brady, Breeze, etc., and IF everything "clicks" I think he can show everybody that. The passing in the NE game this previous year was a prime example of the potential Ben and this offense have, and now with an O line that will give Ben even more time then in that game, and a running game thanks to that O line which will take the pressure off the passing game, the potential is huge. With as good as some of the "elite" QB's WR/TE's are, I would still take Wallace, Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, and Miller over ANY other WR/TE group. Ben might not have as much natural "football intelligence" as Brady/Manning but his seasons generally end better then theirs in spite of it. This year he and the team are set on changing his style of play, he will mold into a hard working, film studying QB, and with our weapons it can be done. IF everything goes correctly this will be an exciting offense.

Agreed!!! Our WR/TE group is the best in the league in my opinion. Now, I know that will be disputed on here, but I have HIGH expectations for Sanders if he can stay healthy. Wallace and Brown have already proven their worth, and Cotchery is a viable number 3 who's playing the number 4 position for us. We're strong at the WR spot. I would love an upgrade at our second TE position, but our starter is solid, and I don't see anyone making up the difference here compared to our WRs. As you said, IF our line has been fixed, we'll have a VERY potent offense. Ben will excel, and when Mendy returns, we'll see what he was SUPPOSED to be from the beginning. That's my opinion, because Mendy needs space to work, and we haven't been able to supply that with our line in recent years. Now, we'll be able to give him that space, and with the improved running game, Ben will have a little help. He does hold the ball too long, but I don't think that's going to be too much a problem if they continue to work with him as a QB, and our line is improved. People forget that QBs really come into their own in their 30s. Ben is at that age, and he's shown progression already. With an improved offensive scheme and O-Line, the sky is the limit for him and this offense.

Curtain_of_Steel
05-04-2012, 11:24 AM
Ben holds the ball to long? Well when you have to turn and run after 1/2 second from the snap, it takes a bit to get free. The WR's cant be running with their backs to him oblvious to the play.

Yet again, another post on Ben neededing to be taught to play qb, lol

Ben will excel when Mendy returns? Seriously? Mendy needs space to work? Yes because he dances around before moving forward when the little bit of hole we have, closes.

So lets reveiw, Ben is successful because of Mendy? Or won't be any good this year, till Mendy comes back?

the WR/TE group out there would be the PATS. Their 2 te's make up for a lot of short comings. But they have the Brady factor. I would still take Ben and ours over anyone, but the Pats could give it s run. The Oline could be the difference maker here.

Steel Peon
05-04-2012, 11:31 AM
when Mendy returns, we'll see what he was SUPPOSED to be from the beginning. That's my opinion, because Mendy needs space to work, and we haven't been able to supply that with our line in recent years.

I'll agree that Mendy would've been more effective had we not had a bonehead for an OC, and a patchwork O-line, but I really don't see him returning. I'm with the crowd that said that Redman should've been our starter last year because he's far better at gaining yards when he's stacked up, rather than Mendy who tippy-toes too much at the point of attack.......did I mention Mendy likes to run OOB?

Regardless, of the new OC (who's proven himself to NOT be a moron), and the new lineman, I'm still going with Red or one of our other backs as the runner of the future. I honestly don't think that Mendy will ever be as good as expected, and Redman will continue to exceed expectations.

steeltheone
05-04-2012, 03:34 PM
Redman has 162 career carries ...He has much to prove...

dyce23
05-04-2012, 04:33 PM
Ben holds the ball to long? Well when you have to turn and run after 1/2 second from the snap, it takes a bit to get free. The WR's cant be running with their backs to him oblvious to the play.

Yet again, another post on Ben neededing to be taught to play qb, lol

Ben will excel when Mendy returns? Seriously? Mendy needs space to work? Yes because he dances around before moving forward when the little bit of hole we have, closes.

So lets reveiw, Ben is successful because of Mendy? Or won't be any good this year, till Mendy comes back?

the WR/TE group out there would be the PATS. Their 2 te's make up for a lot of short comings. But they have the Brady factor. I would still take Ben and ours over anyone, but the Pats could give it s run. The Oline could be the difference maker here.

Yes, Ben holds the ball too long. Why do people act like I've killed their dad when I say this? It's a simple critique, and it's not the end of the world. We still win majority of the time.

However, even though Ben does hold the ball too long, he also hasn't had a great O-Line to play behind. Yet, despite this, would you really try to argue that Ben has been a traditional 3-step drop, target, and pass type of QB in the past even when he's had time? Maybe you would, but majority of Steeler fans would not. Ben's great - Peyton he is not. He has played the QB position HIS way, and it has worked, but people are asking him to improve on an aspect of his game. Is that so absurd? Also, I wasn't suggesting that he doesn't know how to play QB. He does, and that's obvious. However, let's not be blind to the fact that Ben could use some film study so he can better understand what defenses are throwing at him and make quicker decisions.


Also, I never said Mendy was the reason for Ben's success. Check the bold, and then check your reading comprehension. My post was saying that Ben will excel behind the new line AND Mendy will be improved behind it. I just said that the new line would help improve both the passing and rushing aspects of the offense, and that in turn, would help to improve Roethlisberger's game. I don't see what's so hard to understand about that or what's so controversial for you to be getting all heated.

You might be right about the Pats. I didn't consider them.

Now, as for Mendy needing space to work. I said that because it's true, in my opinion. Mendy will be a much improved back behind this line once he's healthy. He isn't that tough type of back that we're used to, and he's not even as tough as we THOUGHT he was. However, he is still a really good RB in space. We just haven't had a line to offer him that space. As another poster said, recently Redman has looked better. It's my opinion, however, that this is because Redman was better suited behind the line we had because he was a straight-ahead runner. He hit the hole and took whatever yardage was given. Mendy is more of an athletic type of back and won't hit the hole hard the way we're used to from power backs. Behind a better line though, I think Mendy will have that split second more to evaluate the defense, make decisions, and get moving. I honestly think he'll be a 1,400 yard back if the line is, in fact, improved and we commit to running him. We can have a difference of opinion here, though.

To the other dude who spoke up about Redman - You may be right that Redman keeps that spot. I still feel as I said above, but the past year and a half we've seen Redman be the better RB between the two. I think that's due to his style and our line versus Mendy's style and our line, but I think they'll both improve behind this new one. I just think that Redman's ceiling is lower because of his style compared to Mendy's behind this same, improved line. I could be wrong though, and Redman could just continue to out perform Mendy. Either way, I honestly think we're okay in this position. Until I see us actually TRY and FAIL with either, then I'm going to continue to think that both of these men can get the job done (if I'm right about Mendy's potential behind this line). If I'm off about Mendy's potential, however, then we need to let him go at the end of this season. He's not worth the money if he's not a MUCH improved runner behind this new line.

Hawaii 5-0
05-06-2012, 09:50 PM
Maurkice Pouncey 100% recovered from ankle surgery

May 6th, 2012

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Y-DbBvf7R5Y/TRs2bCPrZ4I/AAAAAAAAfXk/QRm5RJRsYSg/s400/pouncey-a.jpg

Steelers All Pro Center Maurkice Pouncey is fully healed from ankle surgery this offseason. Pouncey struggled with the injuries to his ankle over the last two seasons. The surgery should make it so the chance of another injury is much smaller. Now that Pouncey is fully healed he will be able to participate in OTAs with the team this month.

With Pouncey fully healthy this offensive line will only get better. Pouncey is the key to the offensive line. He is the brains. He makes all the calls and can really help these guys around him. The addition of Pouncey in his rookie year made the offensive line so much better then it had been. His presence and leadership made the line look much better than it was.

Pouncey could have two new teammates on the starting offensive line with him. David DeCastro is almost assured to start. OT Mike Adams could also fight for a starting job. Pouncey can really influence the two of them and keep growing the offensive line. The faster these guys get ready and can make an impact the better this line will be.

http://bleedblackandgold.com/blog/2012/05/06/maurkice-pouncey-100-recovered-ankle-surgery/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+BleedBlackAndGold+%28Bleed+Bl ack+and+Gold%29

Dalarin
05-06-2012, 10:34 PM
5000 yards passing is unlikely if we get a running game going. If we get 2000 yards rushing I strongly doubt we will pass much. Those numbers Brady and Breed post are because they pass to set up the pass and run only to keep defenses honest. We won't have that offensive philosophy any time soon.

Hawaii 5-0
05-07-2012, 10:49 PM
Pouncey, Gilbert welcome young linemen

Teresa Varley - Steelers.com

May 7, 2012

Center Maurkice Pouncey kept a close eye on the recent NFL Draft, checking in on who his new Steelers teammates would be. When he learned the first two picks, and three overall in the draft, were going to be joining him in the offensive line room he couldn’t help but be thrilled.

“It’s definitely exciting,” said Pouncey. “The draft picks we got are really, really good picks. Hopefully they get in here ready to work. I know all of the guys will be excited about it and I know the coaches will be too.”

The Steelers selected guard David DeCastro in the first round, tackle Mike Adams in the second and guard Kelvin Beachum in the seventh round, continuing a trend that started when Pouncey was a first-round pick in 2010 and tackle Marcus Gilbert a second round pick in 2011.

“It’s always good to add on and improve your room with good, young, talented offensive linemen,” said Gilbert. “We are looking forward to having them in our room. I think our coaches addressed what we needed. We needed depth in the offensive line room with the injuries last year. These young guys can come in and help us tremendously.”

If there is one thing everyone on the line is hoping for this year it is stability. There were nine different starting combinations on the line last year, beginning week one when tackle Willie Colon was lost for the season. Injuries throughout the year had the coaches continually shuffling the line, something that nobody wants this year.

“You have to build chemistry with who you play next to,” said Gilbert. “If you build a bond with the guy you are playing next to that can help tremendously. With all of the injuries it was difficult, especially going into the next week not knowing who you will have. It was frustrating last year, but I think we have a lot of guys that can come in and help us and are willing to push and get ready to play.”

It’s too early to know what type of role the draft picks will play, but the veterans are anxious to work with them and get them up to speed and ready to roll.

“I talked to DeCastro and Adams after the draft,” said Pouncey. “They were both excited about it and ready to get to work. They sounded young and excited like I was. I remember when I first got drafted and Hines Ward called me and I figured it was my time to start doing that so I reached out to a couple of them, especially the offensive linemen.”

Gilbert also spoke with both, and is willing to share some of the lessons he learned as a rookie. Gilbert didn’t have the advantage of a full offseason last year because of the NFL lockout, and wants to be certain this year’s draft class doesn’t waste a minute learning the offense before training camp.

“They are willing to come in and follow the older guys lead and compete and help the team any way they can on the field,” said Gilbert. “They need to know how to study the game as a professional. Around this time last year I missed it and never really learned how to watch film and break down an NFL defensive scheme. I went into the season not knowing all of those details and how you see the game as an offensive lineman. I think these guys will have a better understanding. They won’t need to rush through plays and getting to know the different schemes.

“It’s basically learning how to handle the week as a professional. I followed the lead of the older guys on the team and seeing how they really handled themselves during the week and prepared. What I learned is the harder you go during the week in practice and the film room, the easier the game will come to you.”

While Pouncey and Gilbert might still be young players themselves, they are more than willing to step up to the plate and be leaders this year.

“Coach (Mike) Tomlin addressed that with both of us,” said Gilbert. “He wants us to take a bigger lead and make it our room and get these guys going. We want to bring a lot of energy to the offensive line room.

“It means a lot that he wants that from us. It shows how invested the coaches are in you and what they think you are able to bring to the table. I think last year I was able to show them that. It just means a lot. I took a lot from the older guys last year as far as leadership. I want to take it to the next level."

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Pouncey-Gilbert-welcome-young-linemen/b43fb425-345a-49b3-b451-12f6ec09ef72

Kingmagyar
05-08-2012, 01:41 AM
Boy I really can't wait for training camp!

mikeyg
05-08-2012, 08:30 AM
Draft fallout: Did Pittsburgh Steelers fix their O-line?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828d8d9a/article/draft-fallout-did-the-pittsburgh-steelers-fix-their-oline

By Gregg Rosenthal NFL.com
Around The League editor

Guard David DeCastro might have been the safest home-run pick in the entire first round. If guards got drafted in the top 10, DeCastro would have gone in the top 10. He fills a huge need as a plug-and-play Week 1 starter, and coach Mike Tomlin said DeCastro could play right guard or left guard. He immediately should be the best guard on the team.

For the first time since 1968, the Steelers drafted back-to-back offensive linemen when Mike Adams fell to them in the second round. Last year's second-round pick, Marcus Gilbert, got a lot of starting experience at right tackle in 2011. It's expected that Gilbert will move to the left side this year, with Willie Colon back from injury on the right side. Suddenly, Pittsburgh has enviable depth at a usually weak position.

Throw in center Maurkice Pouncey, and the beleaguered Steelers line now actually might be a weapon. Ben Roethlisberger hasn't been the problem in Pittsburgh, and now he'll have a better chance to shine.

"Really, the last three days unfolded very well for us," general manager Kevin Colbert said at the end of the draft. "We got a lot of players we targeted."

With the Baltimore Ravens' pass rush diminished, the Steelers once again look like favorites in the AFC North.

well.........he's been PART of the problem........he's not 100% innocent

Fire Arians
05-08-2012, 12:16 PM
i'm usually excited for training camp, but much more so this year than before. Our draft this year has the potential to be a very special one