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Hawaii 5-0
05-09-2012, 02:54 AM
Ben Roethlisberger: Expect lots of no-huddle from Steelers

NFL.com
Published: May 8, 2012

The Pittsburgh Steelers said they wanted to run the ball more often when they parted with offensive coordinator Bruce Arians this offseason, but Ben Roethlisberger hasn't noticed too much of a change under Todd Haley, the Pro Bowl quarterback told NFL Network's Rich Eisen.

"I get a little confused at times because so much has been made about us, quote-unquote, throwing the ball too much, or going back to Steeler football and running the ball more," Roethlisberger said on Rich Eisen's podcast, which will air Thursday on NFL Network at 1:30 p.m. ET.

"In these meetings I've had with Coach Haley, he's all about the no-huddle and using our wide-receiver weapons and throwing the ball and stuff like that," Roethlisberger said.

The quarterback made headlines this offseason after he said he was upset the team didn't renew Arians' contract. Arians now is the offensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts.

"People made such a big deal about us being so upset and hissy fits," Roethlisberger said. "Nothing like that happened. You hate to see anybody that's your family leave. So that was the tough part."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828f40dc/article/steelers-ben-roethlisberger-expect-lots-of-nohuddle?module=HP11_headline_stack

steeltheone
05-09-2012, 05:40 AM
Boy i hope so...Always drove me crazy at the lack of no huddles we ran....BR7 is at his best when we run it!

Steelers>NFL
05-09-2012, 07:07 AM
Oh boy, here we go again. Every year, "we are gonna use lots of no-huddles ...blah blah blah..."
We can only hope that Haley does so.

NoFieldFive
05-09-2012, 09:24 AM
as long as it's not lots of no huddle with wide receiver screens for 3 yard losses

I really hope we don't see Johnson standing around the backfield trying to block on 90% of the plays. that is a waste of a roster spot, a starting one at that!

StainlessStill
05-09-2012, 09:27 AM
How long has Ben wanted to run the no-huddle since airhead got in '07? It feels like every season was the year we would see more of it, and instead, we'd see less of it every week. Haley KNOWS the type of weapons he has and quite frankly, he's going to turn Ben into a beast. We're looking to destroy teams.

TRH
05-09-2012, 10:00 AM
Nice...i like the no-huddles. But PLEASE stop running the snap-count clock down to 1 or 0. I hate that and we do it ALL the time. It defeats the purpose.
Watch some film of Brady and he'll cut it loose w/10 seconds remaining, 14 seconds, 7 seconds...you never are really sure when the ball will be snapped...inducing that element of "surprise".

VaDave
05-09-2012, 11:21 AM
Nice...i like the no-huddles. But PLEASE stop running the snap-count clock down to 1 or 0. I hate that and we do it ALL the time. It defeats the purpose.
Watch some film of Brady and he'll cut it loose w/10 seconds remaining, 14 seconds, 7 seconds...you never are really sure when the ball will be snapped...inducing that element of "surprise".

I am in major agreement here.

Steelers>NFL
05-09-2012, 12:03 PM
I am in major agreement here.

Same here. That has been one of my biggest complaints the last 2 seasons. And maybe a BIG reason why defense can tee off on Ben because of being SO predicable on snapping the ball. This is the reason why I have question Ben's smarts or intelligence of reading defenses. Maybe he needs the full 15 seconds at line of scrimmage. Don't know. But hopefully they will mix up the snaps. Just like Brady does.

Twentyvalve
05-09-2012, 12:04 PM
Not so much "more" but "more at the right time." I would imagine that goes for "passing" too! :applaudit:

NSMaster56
05-09-2012, 09:02 PM
Good.

In the past it's been beyond frustrating to watch the O sputter for long stretches, only to break out the no-huddle and instantly succeed... and then to abandon the no-huddle until they're in desperate need of a big drive again (which may be games later).

In a related story, I will not be missing Bruce Arians this year.

Fire Arians
05-09-2012, 09:27 PM
haley's been good at using his personnel to his advantage. im guessing that if he likes what he sees from our wr's/te's capabilities we will stay a passing team and run more no huddle.

arians of course was the opposite. if it works, don't do it anymore, that'll fool em!

Steel_Bus_24
05-10-2012, 12:44 AM
Ariens probably left because he never got to deploy his ultimate formation of Six Wide...where we have another WR as the QB an tricks the D by throwing the ball to himself:shake01:

Kingmagyar
05-10-2012, 04:17 PM
I could swear I saw a correlation with running the no huddle a lot in the 2008 season and being able to win that super bowl with a no huddle and then not running the no huddle much in 2010 and looking terrible the last drive of the game when we lost the super bowl.

Practice makes perfect and repetition is a good thing. We should run it a lot so when the bullets are really flying we've done it so much it is second nature. Attacking teams early and building a lead then pounding them with the run and killing clock in the 4th, until that one moment when they are totally sold on the run we hit a homerun on a deep ball.

Steelersfan87
05-10-2012, 04:23 PM
No huddle stats, according to Steelers Depot's research:

Ben was 36 for 57 for 239 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 69.1 QBR in 2008.
Ben was 41 for 64 for 313 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 92.8 QBR in 2010.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05/ben-roethlisberger-career-no-huddle-passing-stats/

NSMaster56
05-10-2012, 07:09 PM
I could swear I saw a correlation with running the no huddle a lot in the 2008 season and being able to win that super bowl with a no huddle and then not running the no huddle much in 2010 and looking terrible the last drive of the game when we lost the super bowl.

I have this recollection as well.

No huddle stats, according to Steelers Depot's research:

Ben was 36 for 57 for 239 yards, 1 TD, 2 INT, 69.1 QBR in 2008.
Ben was 41 for 64 for 313 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT, 92.8 QBR in 2010.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05/ben-roethlisberger-career-no-huddle-passing-stats/

Wow... that's it? I'd be curious to know how many scoring drives the Steelers had in the NH (08 or 10) though.

Steelersfan87
05-10-2012, 10:38 PM
True, the stats only account for passing touchdowns. To be honest, I didn't even read the included article so I'm not sure if he touches on the running game in the no huddle. I can see that being a follow up post by him though.

SoCalFan
05-11-2012, 12:59 AM
If our O-line pans out, this team has what it takes to run a fast paced no huddle with success, and often! This better be the case! And more use of Heath as a weapon, A career season!!!

Hawaii 5-0
05-11-2012, 02:00 AM
Big Ben Says Haley’s Offense ‘All About the No-Huddle’

Posted on May 10, 2012 by ryan

Despite my initial reservations, I’ve come around on Todd Haley, OC, even if he seems to lack basic people-person skills. But this is football; yelling, screaming, cursing and stomping aren’t out of the ordinary unless you’re Tony Dungy. A potentially bigger issue: doing a 180 with the Steelers’ offensive philosophy under Bruce Arians, a philosophy that, in general, had plenty of success. (Yes, I know, it wasn’t perfect. There were things to complain about but it could’ve been much, much worse. On this we can agree, right?)

In recent days, Big Ben has weighed in on Haley’s vision for what the Steelers’ O should look like and, well, it doesn’t sound a lot different than what we’ve become accustomed to. Which is to say, despite suggestions about getting back to running the ball, Haley plans on airing it out. During an appearance on the Rich Eisen Podcast, Señor Roethlisberger spoke to the (media driven?) run-first perception:

“I get a little confused at times because I know so much has been made about us quote-unquote throwing the ball too much, or we’re going back to Steeler football and running the ball more,” Ben said via PFT. “But in these meetings I’ve had with coach Haley he’s all about the no-huddle, and using our wide receiver weapons, and throwing the ball, and stuff like that, so I’m still confused. I’m not sure what’s going to happen yet.”

Hell and yes. Words like “no huddle” make me happy because for as often as Arians promised to break it out, he seldom did blaming circumstances and inexperience at the wide receiver position. But in Haley’s new offense, with his playbook and verbiage, everyone’s starting fro scratch. And maybe that’s not so much a bug as a feature, at least in terms of busting out the no-huddle more frequently. Ben also touched on the whole “run more” approach to matriculating the ball down the field.

“Right now we’re practicing the pass because it’s more complicated,” he told the Post-Gazette‘s Ed Bouchette Wednesday. “Steelers fans and coach Tomlin and the Rooneys apparently thought B.A. was throwing the ball too much. But yesterday in coach Haley’s office, we were talking about using the no-huddle and throwing the ball and how much we have to use our weapons.”

One concern: while the Ravens, Bengals, Patriots, Texans, Jets and Chargers (all playoff contenders in 2012) are familiar with the offensive system, the Steelers are on page 1 of the playbook. And Ben admits that learning a new scheme is slightly more difficult than taking a correspondence course to complete his undergraduate degree. Here’s what he told Eddie B. after leaving one of Haley’s classes at the Steelers’ facility.

“That one’s a little harder than the Miami ones I was doing. I joke and say that my final paper for Miami on Tibet was a lot easier than the Rosetta Stone we’re doing now here.”

So what’s different? “Everything,” Ben added. “The similarities would be on a shorter list. Off the top of my head, from what I’ve seen so far, there’s a 90 percent change.”

As for the Haley’s gruff demeanor, Ben’s holding off on forming an opinion. “You have to form your own opinion, and we’re starting to do that, starting to develop a relationship and we’ll see where it goes,”

Though he does admit what everybody already knew: he and Arians were boys. But unlike some folks, that wasn’t an issue for me. There are arguments that Ben occasionally needs some tough love, although based on his production I’m not sure why.

“Change doesn’t happen a lot in Pittsburgh,” he said. “They just don’t have a lot of changeover. So any time you lose a coach, a player — it would be uncomfortable, even, to lose an equipment guy or a training guy because everybody in Pittsburgh is family. So of course it’s going to hurt you and of course change is difficult. But people made such a big deal about us being upset, hissy fits, and nothing like that happened. It’s just you hate to see anybody that’s your family leave. So that was the tough part.”

One last thing: Ben’s making the media rounds (we’re still waiting for him to come on the SL Podcast) and during an appearance on the Dan Patrick Show, he was asked about the 49ers targeting his peg leg during the late-season Monday Night Football game that, in retrospect, he had no business playing.

“Um, wow, that’s tough,” he said. “I don’t really complain about that stuff, either. But I think when we played San Fran, I felt like there were some things going on, some extra … Now, obviously, I did have the ankle and I was playing, so there was kind of a bulls-eye on there anyway. But for the most part, guys play tough and you go into a game expecting it. I expect to be tougher than them.”

I like to joke that Ben’s too dumb to die, and I mean that with the utmost respect and affection. There isn’t a quarterback (and maybe even a player) in the league with Ben’s tolerance for pain. I have no issue with the 49ers (it is football, after all) and I applaud Roethlisberger for shrugging it off. Plus, this won’t ever be an issue again because the Steelers have DeCastro and Adams, and Colon’s moving to guard. (Irrational exuberance? WHY YES, YES IT IS.)

http://www.steelerslounge.com/2012/05/big-ben-haleys-offense-all-about-no-huddle/

Hawaii 5-0
05-11-2012, 11:30 PM
Ben Roethlisberger Career No-huddle Passing Stats

Wednesday, May 9th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger hinted on Wednesday in his interview with Rich Eisen that he expects to use more no-huddle now that Todd Haley has taken over as offensive coordinator. I have had quite a few request to pull the stats of Roethlisberger over the course of his career when running the no-huddle offense and I have finally compiled the raw stats from the all of the gamebooks dating back to 2004 with Roethlisberger under center. Late me emphasize that these stats are by no means considered official, as they are pulled from the NFL gamebooks. I have noticed in my own charting projects over the last two seasons that they have been pretty much on the money in regard to listing no-huddle correctly in the play-by-play, but there could be a missed play or two along the way.

I have compiled these stats in two tables, overall stats and 4th quarter stats. These stats also include playoff games in addition and all spikes were removed from the pass attempts. During his first two seasons in the league, 2004 and 2005, Roethlisberger is not listed as running a no-huddle play and that is not too terribly hard to believe. In fact, in 2004 the Steelers are listed as running just 2 no-huddle plays in total and that was with Tommy Maddox under center and they both came in the game against the Buffalo Bills according to the gamebooks. In 2005 the Steelers are not listed as running any no-huddle plays.

Since his rookie season Roethlisberger is listed as running 269 total plays in the no-huddle offense. He has completed 115 of 179 attempted passes for a career 64% completion ratio. His 1343 passing yards equates to a solid 7.5 yards per attempt using these raw stats. Looking at his stats using the no-huddle in the 4th quarter of games, Roethlisberger is 51 of 72 passing for 546 yards. That equates to a 71% completion ratio and a 7.58 yards per attempt number. He was under center for 102 no-huddle plays in the 4th quarter in total, which equates to 38% of all no-huddle plays he has been under center for.

If you are into quarterback ratings, Roethlisberger has a career rating in the no-huddle offense of 86.4 and in the 4th quarter a rating of 85.8. A better way to look at his numbers would be to use DVOA, but I am willing to bet that these numbers would show well in that stat. I might work on that for a future post.

Now quite a few things could have contributed to a lack of overall no-huddle over the years. As I researched in the last post, former offensive coordinator Bruce Arians stated that the injuries to the offensive line had some to do with it not being run very often last year. Another factor could be that the Steelers really have not had a very athletic line over the last few years outside of center Maurkice Pouncey. Also the last few seasons we have seen the addition of several young receivers in Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. Roethlisberger also has been beat up quite a bit over the last few years and keep in mind he missed the first four games of the 2010 season. These are not excuses and we do not know exactly how much or little of each above played into the little use of the no-huddle. Most will say that Arians was just stubborn, but that would be as speculative as anything else I mentioned above.

The raw stats show that Roethlisberger has had success running the no-huddle offense over the years. The receivers are now another year older and the offensive line figures to be at least a little more athletic than it has in years. At least a little younger and smarter with the addition of David DeCastro and Marcus Gilbert now has a year under his belt as well. In my next post I will look at a similar breakdown of offenses under Todd Haley dating back to his time with the Arizona Cardinals so we can see how often he used the no-huddle offense overall as opposed to just the fourth quarter.

Once again please keep in mind these are really raw stats and I am at the mercy of the gamebooks when compiling them. If you see any mistakes, please let me know about them.

Ben Roethlisberger Career No-huddle Passing Stats

YEAR PLAYS ATT COMP COMP % YDS YPA TD INT SPK SCK RATE
2004 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
2005 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
2006 32 21 13 62% 131 6.24 1 0 0 2 95.5
2007 12 6 4 67% 41 6.83 0 0 0 1 86.1
2008 57 36 23 64% 239 6.64 1 2 3 4 69.1
2009 50 37 28 76% 328 8.86 2 0 0 2 120.1
2010 64 41 26 63% 313 7.63 2 1 4 3 92.8
2011 54 38 21 55% 291 7.66 0 2 0 3 58.1

TOTAL 269 179 115 64% 1343 7.50 6 5 7 15 86.4

Ben Roethlisberger Career 4th Quarter No-huddle Passing Stats

YEAR PLAYS ATT COMP COMP % YDS YPA TD INT SPK SCK RATE
2004 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
2005 0 0 0 0% 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
2006 23 18 12 67% 139 7.72 1 0 0 1 108.3
2007 7 3 2 67% 13 4.33 0 0 0 0 75.7
2008 18 13 10 77% 123 9.46 0 1 1 1 73.6
2009 15 10 8 80% 71 7.10 0 0 0 1 96.3
2010 22 16 11 69% 137 8.56 0 1 2 2 69.0
2011 17 12 8 67% 63 5.25 0 0 0 3 79.5

TOTAL 102 72 51 71% 546 7.58 1 2 3 8 85.8

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/ben_roethlisberger_career_no_huddle_passing_stats/10759064