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Hawaii 5-0
05-17-2012, 09:50 PM
Rookies DeCastro & Adams Look To Buck Steelers History By Both Starting Week 1

Thursday, May 17th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

The recent report by Ed Bouchette stating that second round tackle Mike Adams is in the plans of the Pittsburgh Steelers to get the first crack at the starting left tackle spot is not earth shattering news in nature, especially when you look at the potential candidates currently on the roster that could compete for the job. What is kind of mind blowing though is that if indeed that comes to fruition, and first round pick David DeCastro starts at right guard, it would mean that two rookies would be starting on the Steelers offensive line when they line up week one against the Denver Broncos.

This would be the first time that this feat has occurred since at least 1978, and there is a good chance that it dates even further back than that. I have only been able to pull the Steelers week one starting offensive lines dating back to 1979, so that covers the last 33 seasons. Dating back to 1979, only three rookie offensive linemen have cracked the week one starting lineup for the Steelers and they were: Tom Ricketts at left guard (1989), Marvel Smith at right tackle (2000) and Maurkice Pouncey at center (2010). That leaves two positions on the offensive line that the Steelers have not had rookies start at since at least at least 1978, and both of those positions are left tackle and right guard, the positions that Adams and DeCastro aim to start at respectively.

Mike Webster, Dermontti Dawson and Alan Faneca were all drafted by the Steelers, but none of the three started week one of their rookie year. Webster has long been enshrined in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, Dawson will join him in that distinction later this summer and Faneca will not be too far behind in getting that honor as well.

I have stated since the Steelers drafted DeCastro that I believe he is a plug and play guard right from the get-go. I would be shocked if he is not the starting right guard in Denver. Really shocked. Adams, on the other hand, I have my reservations about. He has the tools and prototypical size, but I worry if he will be ready to protect the blind side of Ben Roethlisberger against the Broncos. While the Steelers might be claiming that starting two rookies on the offensive line is their plan in Denver, the odds are certainly against it happening. It might even make Super Bowl era history for the Steelers should it occur.

It sure is fun to go back and look at all of these names over the years and please feel free to pass along the week 1 starting offensive lines from 1966-1978 if you are absolutely positive about them.

Pittsburgh Steelers Week 1 Starting Offensive Lines 1979-2011

YEAR LEFT TACKLE LEFT GUARD CENTER RIGHT GUARD RIGHT TACKLE

1979 Jon Kolb Sam Davis Mike Webster Steve Courson Larry Brown
1980 Jon Kolb Ray Pinney Mike Webster Steve Courson Larry Brown
1981 Jon Kolb Craig Wolfley Mike Webster Steve Courson Larry Brown
1982 Ray Pinney Craig Wolfley Mike Webster Steve Courson Larry Brown
1983 Ted Petersen Craig Wolfley Mike Webster Steve Courson Larry Brown
1984 Tunch Ilkin Craig Wolfley Mike Webster Blake Wingle Larry Brown
1985 Pete Rostosky Craig Wolfley Mike Webster Terry Long Tunch Ilkin
1986 Ray Pinney Randy Rasmussen Dan Turk Terry Long Mark Behning
1987 Craig Wolfley John Rienstra Mike Webster Buddy Aydelette Terry Long
1988 Craig Wolfley John Rienstra Mike Webster Terry Long Tunch Ilkin
1989 Craig Wolfley Tom Ricketts Dermontti Dawson Brian Blankenship Tunch Ilkin
1990 John Jackson John Rienstra Dermontti Dawson Terry Long Tunch Ilkin
1991 John Jackson Brian Blankenship Dermontti Dawson Carlton Haselrig Tunch Ilkin
1992 John Jackson Duval Love Dermontti Dawson Carlton Haselrig Tunch Ilkin
1993 John Jackson Duval Love Dermontti Dawson Carlton Haselrig Leon Searcy
1994 John Jackson Duval Love Dermontti Dawson Todd Kalis Leon Searcy
1995 John Jackson Tom Newberry Dermontti Dawson Justin Strzelczyk Leon Searcy
1996 John Jackson Will Wolford Dermontti Dawson Justin Strzelczyk Bernard Dafney
1997 John Jackson Will Wolford Dermontti Dawson Brenden Stai Justin Strzelczyk
1998 Will Wolford Roger Duffy Dermontti Dawson Brenden Stai Justin Strzelczyk
1999 Wayne Gandy Alan Faneca Dermontti Dawson Brenden Stai Chris Conrad
2000 Wayne Gandy Alan Faneca Dermontti Dawson Rich Tylski Marvel Smith
2001 Wayne Gandy Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Rich Tylski Marvel Smith
2002 Wayne Gandy Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Oliver Ross Marvel Smith
2003 Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Kendall Simmons Todd Fordham
2004 Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Keydrick Vincent Oliver Ross
2005 Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Kendall Simmons Max Starks
2006 Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Jeff Hartings Kendall Simmons Max Starks
2007 Marvel Smith Alan Faneca Sean Mahan Kendall Simmons Willie Colon
2008 Marvel Smith Chris Kemoeatu Justin Hartwig Kendall Simmons Willie Colon
2009 Max Starks Chris Kemoeatu Justin Hartwig Trai Essex Willie Colon
2010 Max Starks Chris Kemoeatu Maurkice Pouncey Trai Essex Flozell Adams
2011 Jonathan Scott Chris Kemoeatu Maurkice Pouncey Doug Legursky Willie Colon

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05/rookies-decastro-adams-look-to-buck-steelers-history-by-both-starting-week-1/

pancake
05-17-2012, 10:48 PM
I hope this turns out to be the right move...

Fire Arians
05-17-2012, 11:11 PM
I hope this turns out to be the right move...

well it's not set in stone yet, but this is just what the coaching staff wants to try. Adams starting is assuming that he comes into training camp and impresses the coaching staff.

I'm sure they'll either 1) shuffle the roster back to the original plan (gilbert at LT / colon at RT), or 2) Give max starks a call if Adams isn't ready. But they seem pretty high on him.

nothing they're saying right now is guaranteed. after all, tony hills was considered the starting guard in 3rd week preseason, then he gets cut after the final game. Much can happen in the next 3 months.

MasterOfPuppets
05-17-2012, 11:13 PM
i highly doubt the coaches have chiseled the starting lineup in stone. they are just giving the job to adams , colon, pouncey , decastro , gilbert , and its theirs to lose.
in interviews with kuglar he specifically said they'll put the 5 best blockers they have in the starting lineup. they've got months to figure out who those 5 are and what position they will play.

looks like FA beat me to the stone reference....

Hawaii 5-0
05-18-2012, 03:22 PM
5 Steelers Ready To Breakout In 2012, Part I: Offense

May 18th, 2012 at 2:00 pm by DomSteelers

http://nicepickcowher.com/files/2012/05/6226994.jpg

About a week ago, FoxSports.com’s Alex Marvez constructed a list of N.F.L. players which could be poised have potential breakout seasons in 2012. The list had one player for each team, and Wide Receiver Emmanuel Sanders made the list as the Steelers’ representative. With Marvez’s list in mind, I thought it would be a good idea to discuss five more Steelers’ players on the Offensive side of the ball which could be ready for breakout seasons.

1. David DeCastro

How or why the top rated Offensive Guard in The 2012 N.F.L. Draft fell to the Steelers at #24, I will never know. Still, I am not going to complain, because Offensive Guard was one of the Steelers’ biggest needs, and had been since Alan Faneca left town when the 2007 season ended. The expectations will be high for DeCastro, and the starting Right Guard spot will be his to lose. Yet I feel like the Rookie from Stanford will answer the bell, and instantly upgrade Pittsburgh’s Offensive Line. DeCastro was an absolute monster at Stanford who has the ability to dominate in the running game, can pull and trap well, hold his own extremely well in pass-protection, and even has room to add onto his ridiculously big frame (6’5″ 316 lbs.). DeCastro started 39 games over the course of his collegiate career at Stanford, and his extended experience as a Lineman in a Pro Style Offense which had a firm dedication (as well as a great deal of success) to the Run Game should not be overlooked as well. The former Cardinal was given future Hall of Famer Alan Faneca’s number #66 and will be counted on to be the rock at Right Guard for at least a decade.

2. Heath Miller

I am sure many of you readers are saying, “Heath Miller? He made the Pro Bowl in 2009. Why is he on this list? How did he make a list of breakout players?” Well, I put Heath on this list because I see him as possibly enjoying a career year with the Steelers as he enters his 8th season with the team. Hopefully, new Offensive Coordinator Todd Haley will use Miller (2011: 51 Catches, 631 Yards, 2 TD’s) in the role Ken Whisenhunt used him in during his first two seasons, and like Haley used Tony Moeaki in Kansas City during the 2010 season: a prime Red Zone target. If this is indeed the case, Miller could enjoy games like he did against the Patriots last season, except on multiple occasions in 2012. Over his first three seasons combined, Miller amassed 21 Touchdown receptions and was one of Big Ben’s most reliable Red Zone targets.

I will admit, with the emergence of Santonio Holmes, Mike Wallace, Antonio Brown, and the other Wide Receivers, Miller’s targets have gone down over the last couple seasons in scoring situations, as well they should. Still, the fact that a 6’5” 265 lb. mammoth of a man that can run with Safeties and has the best hands on the team should not be catching only 2 TD’s per season (4 over the last two). Because of the explosiveness of Wallace and Brown, Miller will likely be singled up or an afterthought when teams key on those two. Pittsburgh needs to make these teams pay, and Miller could be a huge benefactor.

3. Isaac Redman

With Rashard Mendenhall sidelined for likely the first half of the season, and almost zero experienced depth behind him, Isaac Redman will get his opportunity to put a stranglehold on the “RB1” position. Redman set career highs in Rushing Yards (479), Carries (110), and Rushing Touchdowns (3) last season, and should be one of the hungriest players on the team to carry over some positive momentum from 2011 into 2012. Much like Fast Willie Parker, Redman is a former Undrafted Free Agent. And much like Fast Willie, Isaac earned his way onto this roster due to grit, hard work, and developed his skills on the Practice Squad for an extended period. Granted, I see Chris Rainey as the team’s eventual 3rd Down Back, and he will likely force Redman off the field in those situations this season because of his explosive and pass-catching skill-set. Yet as I stated before, Redman finally has his chance, and for a determined Undrafted Free Agent like him, any open window to shine will be met with 100% effort, and a white-knuckle grip on the job with a “take on all comers” attitude.

4. Emmanuel Sanders and/or Jerricho Cotchery

I know this is cheating a little bit, because the title reads “5 Steelers,” yet the player which will have a breakout season will be the winner of the battle between Emmanuel Sanders and Jerricho Cotchery for The #3 Wide Receiver slot. I’ve stated it many times, but Heath Miller and the slot WR’s this season could enjoy enormous seasons due to the attention which opposing Defenses must pay to Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown respectively. The middle of the field will likely be open because of both speedsters outside the numbers, and the Steelers can eat Secondaries alive with mismatches on the inside.

Sanders (2011: 22 Catches, 288 Yards, 2 TD’s) and Cotchery (2011: 16 Catches, 237 Yards, 2 TD’s) are both intelligent and savvy route-runners, both have solid athletic ability, and most importantly, both have reliable hands. The only big issue with these two players will be their collective healths, because both were dinged up last season and only late in the year appeared to contribute on a regular basis. If you can remember back to 2010, Sanders emerged as a steady target for Big Ben as the season progressed, and health permitting, he could resume that role in 2012. If not, the veteran Cotchery can fill in and do an adequate job and pick up those tough 1st Downs to keep drives alive. Plus, with a full offseason to learn the new Offense and work with Ben under his belt, Cotchery could revert back to his successful ways in the slot like when he was with the Jets.

5. Mike Adams

The second Willie Colon came public with the news that he was moving to Left Guard, two thoughts crossed my mind: 1. Yahoo! Colon is moving to his more natural position. 2. It is now time to see massive (6’7″ 323 lbs.) Rookie Mike Adams in action. Adams will definitely have his plate full because it is not common for many Rookies to start at Left Tackle for a contending team in Week 1 of the season. Still, the Steelers must have supreme confidence in Adams and the hope that he cleaned up his act off the field, because he will likely be answering the bell Week 1 now.

In terms of pure talent and athletic ability, only Matt Kalil of Southern California in my opinion was a better Left Tackle prospect than Adams in this past April’s Draft. Adams had a good deal of experience at Left Tackle at the college level (23 starts), and most importantly could have a chip on his shoulder for the rest of his career due to where he was drafted. If Adams is motivated enough to play for his hometown team and prove all his doubters and detractors wrong, look out, because the Steelers might have found a blind-side protector for Ben.

http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/05/18/5-steelers-ready-to-breakout-in-2012-part-i-offense/?repeat=w3tc

austinfrench76
05-18-2012, 04:05 PM
The great news is that Max STarks will be out there when healthy as a very nice security blanket! Adams could learn from him if need be and we would have some nice luxuries along the line unlike previous years. Any line with Johnathan Scott anywhere near it, is not an NFL caliber line IMO.

steelerchad
05-18-2012, 04:19 PM
The great news is that Max STarks will be out there when healthy as a very nice security blanket! Adams could learn from him if need be and we would have some nice luxuries along the line unlike previous years. Any line with Johnathan Scott anywhere near it, is not an NFL caliber line IMO.

I'd love to bring Max in for security and injury protection. I think he's a decent LT option. Scott is garbage. If Adams doesn't earn the start, Max can hold it down until he's ready.

If Adams works at LT, that pick turns out to be a great one, as one pick fixes 2 spots on the line. Colon moving to LG to replace Kemo along with the DeCastro pick should give us a strong starting 5. That said. We have a new offensive coordinator and probably 3 of 5 lineman in new spots. It will likely take a little while to gel. This could be a growing pain kind of year offensively.

steeltheone
05-18-2012, 04:23 PM
Starks price tag is to much...Play the young ones....Its not like they have much to live up to, mistakes will happen as they learn.

Steelersfan87
05-18-2012, 05:59 PM
Starks has no leverage. If he can be acquired for veteran minimum, which is highly possible, then by all means sign him and release Scott and eat the $500,000 in dead money that would go with it.

Hawaii 5-0
05-18-2012, 06:05 PM
Starks has no leverage. If he can be acquired for veteran minimum, which is highly possible, then by all means sign him and release Scott and eat the $500,000 in dead money that would go with it.


Jonathan Scott will not be released quite just yet, first he will be given along with Trai Essex and Mike Adams the opportunity to win the starting LT position. I believe only if all three fail that the Steelers will then look to re-sign Starks and cut Scott.

Steelersfan87
05-18-2012, 06:08 PM
I think we all know that Scott is not going to win. He could be cut as soon as Starks is back to full health and proves it.

stb_steeler
05-18-2012, 06:25 PM
I hope this turns out to be the right move...

So do I...... I hope they do excellent. Been a long time since this line had something to cheer about.

FrancoLambert
05-18-2012, 06:31 PM
It's amazing how this has worked out for us. We end up with"THE" guard of the draft and one of "THE" tackles of the draft. And here we are discussing if both will start. Think of what we had over the past few years and now what we might have for years to come. Our biggest weakness possibly being transformed into (can't believe I'm saying this...gulp) an asset. Man, if these guys live up to their potential this year's offense could be amazing. :tt04: :tt02: :tt03:

Fire Arians
05-18-2012, 06:34 PM
It's amazing how this has worked out for us. We end up with"THE" guard of the draft and one of "THE" tackles of the draft. And here we are discussing if both will start. Think of what we had over the past few years and now what we might have for years to come. Our biggest weakness possibly being transformed into (can't believe I'm saying this...gulp) an asset. Man, if these guys live up to their potential this year's offense could be amazing. :tt04: :tt02: :tt03:

not only this year, but next year, and the year after.. lol. if this line pans out, then we basically have young bodies at every position on the line except LG (colon). If this all works out, the OL can be solid for the next decade

Hawaii 5-0
05-19-2012, 01:28 AM
Last Time A Rookie Started Season At Guard For Steelers Was Unfortunately Rememberable

Friday, May 18th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

I consider myself an amateur historian of the Pittsburgh Steelers and have a huge video collection of games dating back to the early 1970's. I also love going back in time via Google to read old newspaper articles about the team and that includes game recaps after disturbing losses as well.

Ever since the Steelers drafted David DeCastro and Mike Adams in the 2012 NFL draft, you can't help to think that there is a good chance that either one, or maybe even both, could possibly crack the week one starting lineup when the Steelers take on the Denver Broncos. As I pointed out in a previous post, should both DeCastro and Adams start week one, it could possibly be a first for the organization in the Super Bowl era. I know for a fact that it hasn't happened as far back as 1970 at the very least.

DeCastro is a near lock to start at right guard and it would be the first time since 1989 that a rookie draft pick has started at guard for the Steelers in week one of a season. That player was Tom Ricketts and it was not a pretty sight.

Before we get to the game itself you need to know that Ricketts was a first round draft pick out of the University of Pittsburgh where he played left tackle. He also holds the distinction of being the Steelers only 1b pick in the Super Bowl era of the draft. That means he was the second of two first round draft picks the Steelers that year thanks to the trade of linebacker Mike Merriweather to the Minnesota Vikings that was completed just before the draft got underway.

Ricketts was a three-year starter at Pitt and measured in at 6 foot 4 inches and weighed 300 pounds. Reports at that time stated he could bench press 405 pounds and squat 580 pounds. He was drafted to eventually play left tackle for the Steelers who had previously relied on Craig Wolfley the year before to play the position out of necessity. Wolfley, a guard by nature, was regarded as the smallest tackle in the league at that time.

Heading into the first game of the 1989 season against the Cleveland Browns the Steelers were beat up on the offensive line. John Jackson, who would have been the starting left tackle, was out with a sprained ankle. Guards John Rienstra and Terry Long were both sidelined with rib and knee injuries respectively while reserve guard Brian Blankenship was coming off of a neck injury that had him sidelined the previous two weeks. Even the rookie Ricketts was injured as he was nursing a broken left thumb. He would have started at left tackle in place of Jackson, but head coach Chuck Noll thought it would it would be easier for Ricketts to play inside instead until his thumb healed.

So Ricketts headed into his first NFL game not only handicapped physically, but position handicapped as well. He and the other members of the Steelers offensive line were not ready to face the likes of Michael Dean Perry, Robert Banks, Carl Hairston or Andrew Stewart either. Those four Browns defensive linemen were involved in four of the six sacks that the Steelers allowed of quarterback Bubby Brister that dismal at Three Rivers Stadium on the way to a 51-0 loss. The loss still stands as the worst margin the Steelers have ever lost by in the modern era. Ricketts was quoted as saying after the loss, "I've never been in a mess like this in my life."

To make matter worse, the Steelers 1a pick in that 1989 draft, running back Tim Worley, fumbled three times in the game and rushed for just 36 yards on 10 carries. He was booed loudly as you can imagine.

The Steelers have had a few more rookie linemen start week one since that dreadful day in 1989 as Marvel Smith started at right tackle for the Steelers in 2000 against the Baltimore Ravens. The final score? 16-0 Ravens. Another shutout. While Smith wasn't noted as having a bad inaugural game, the Steelers rushed for just 30 yards total on 18 rushes and gave up a sack. Maurkice Pouncey started at center for the Steelers in 2010 as a rookie at home against the Atlanta Falcons. The Steelers were without quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who was serving the first game of his four game suspension, but they did manage to win the game in overtime 15-9 on a walk-off 50-yard run by running back Rashard Mendenhall.

So that is three games that rookie linemen have started for the Steelers dating back to 1970 and they scored a total of 15 points and were shutout twice. Hopefully the presumed debut for DeCastro, and maybe even Adams, in week one against the Broncos goes much better than their rookie offensive line predecessors. Past performance is no guarantee of future results, right? That loss to Cleveland still stings though and will forever be etched in my mind every time a rookie starts the season on the Steelers offensive line.

One last note to disturb you. Ricketts was the 24th overall selection in 1989. DeCastro was the 24th overall selection back in April.

If you care to relive this as it was written in the newspapers back then:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BIE0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=7pYEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6864%2C6721596
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=PHNeAAAAIBAJ&sjid=1mENAAAAIBAJ&pg=4316%2C1370588
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=-vohAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hKMFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4318%2C5983038
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=2rFRAAAAIBAJ&sjid=W24DAAAAIBAJ&pg=1939%2C4546142

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/05/last-time-a-rookie-started-season-at-guard-for-steelers-was-unfortunately-rememberable/

Steelersfan87
05-19-2012, 01:38 AM
not only this year, but next year, and the year after.. lol. if this line pans out, then we basically have young bodies at every position on the line except LG (colon). If this all works out, the OL can be solid for the next decade

Next year and the year after indeed. And hopefully all those years with this o-line will help extend Roethlisberger's longevity in this league...maybe he CAN actually play into his late 30s now. :sofunny:

Hawaii 5-0
05-19-2012, 09:07 PM
this is not helping, both rookies need as many reps as possible:

David DeCastro and Mike Adams can not participate in Steelers OTA’s

May 19th, 2012

The Steelers first two draft picks who both look like they are on their way to starting roles for the Steelers are unable to participate in OTA’s with the team from a report by Mark Kaboly. DeCastro and Adams both have obligations to their colleges and have to finish school before being able to join the team. They both will be able to participate in mini camp with the team in June.

This is nothing new. The Steelers have seen this before as have many other teams. It stinks though for the simple fact that it would have been nice to get these guys out on the field with their teammates rather then other rookies who are not going to play. Have them get some chemistry started early. These guys both have very high potential and the more they are on the field with their teammates the faster they will gel. We still have all summer though.

http://bleedblackandgold.com/blog/2012/05/19/david-decastro-and-mike-adams-can-not-participate-in-steelers-otas/

Steelersfan87
05-19-2012, 10:42 PM
True, but they knew that, and we knew that, when they were drafted. I hope they're digging through their playbooks in the meantime.

Galax Steeler
05-20-2012, 08:21 AM
I don't think it is a big deal seems like we go through this every year.

Hawaii 5-0
06-02-2012, 04:28 PM
Report: DeCastro, Adams and Ta’amu may participate in Steelers Minicamp

May 31st, 2012

Ed Bouchette is reporting that the Steelers draft picks David DeCastro, Mike Adams and Alameda Ta’amu may be able to participate in Steelers minicamp. All 3 of these guys are still in school and were not allowed to participate until the semester was over. That now may not be the case.

According to Ed the players can attend when their course work is over not when the semester is over. That means that Adams may be at the next set of OTAs and be at minicamp. DeCastro and Ta’amu will not be at OTAs but they very well could be at minicamp.

This may not sound like much but it could be really important for this team. Especially for DeCastro and Adams. These two guys are expected to start on this team. If they are able to get to at least minicamp that is an advantage for the Steelers. Waiting to get them on the field in Training Camp would put the team behind. Getting these guys feet wet now will only help later.

Lets hope their work is complete and they can make it to camp.

http://bleedblackandgold.com/blog/

Hawaii 5-0
06-04-2012, 03:50 PM
Mike Adams Will Miss Steelers Final OTA Session As Originally Expected

Sunday, June 3rd, 2012 by Dave Bryan

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette speculated on Wednesday of last week that rookie tackle Mike Adams might be able to attend the Pittsburgh Steelers third and final OTA session that gets underway this week after being told last Tuesday that players can attend once their course work ends, not necessarily when the semester ends. Unfortunately that will not be the case as Adams will not be in Pittsburgh this week according to Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Adams should still be able to make the final mini-camp that runs June 12-14 as Ohio State graduates next weekend. Like Adams, both David DeCastro and Alameda Ta'amu will also miss their third OTA session this week in addition. It is still unknown for certain if either of those two players will be able to join Adams in making the final mini-camp just yet. The University of Washington reportedly has commencement dates of June 8-10, while Stanford University commencement dates are set for June 14-17.

Adams, who was drafted by the Steelers in the second round this past April, is considered by many to be a candidate to compete for the starting left tackle spot this year, but missing all of the OTA sessions, along with the installation of the new offense of Todd Haley, has certainly not helped his chances. The same could be said for DeCastro, who the Steelers likely hope can win the starting right guard job this year out of training camp. DeCastro however is considered more NFL ready than Adams following the draft and both still have all of training camp to make their marks and win starting spots on the offensive line.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/06/mike-adams-will-miss-steelers-final-ota-session-as-originally-expected/

austinfrench76
06-04-2012, 04:00 PM
I just don't get it??!! Why on earth does this rule exist??

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-04-2012, 05:05 PM
I just don't get it??!! Why on earth does this rule exist??

probably something to do with education and amateur sport being run roughshod over by pro football.

Imagine a 7th round kid that was told he would have to quit school early to make 3 weeks of OTA's and gets cut anyways, along with possibly does not finish school to graduate?? I'd hate to have to goto school for another semester just because I took a shot to make an NFL team and didnt cut it.

Do you want fries with that?? would be a phrase to start learning.

Hawaii 5-0
06-05-2012, 04:49 PM
by Teresa Varley - Steelers.com
June 4, 2012

Second-round pick Mike Adams hasn't been able to take part in OTAs yet because of Ohio State’s class schedule, but that doesn’t mean football isn’t on his mind. Adams knows the most important thing right now is learning the playbook, but isn’t worried about making the adjustment from college to the NFL.

“At the end of the day it’s football,” said Adams. “There might be different terms we use in college, but at the end of the day it’s all football. For me, it’s just the game I love, so I don’t really look at it as a difficulty, but more as a challenge to myself to see how well I can master the offense, how quick I can do it so that I can get on the field and help this team.”

Adams would like nothing more than to step in right away and help protect quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, but he also knows being a rookie he has to earn his stripes.

“I’m just trying to get my feet wet and try to start and contribute any way I can,” said Adams. “I want to be able to keep the quarterback clean and keep him producing back there, making plays, and everybody knows Ben makes plays. To just have the chance to protect him and do what I love to do is a great opportunity.”

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/No-pressure-on-Brown/40b91cf5-d4ee-40df-90db-d02ce3a86dc7

Hawaii 5-0
06-06-2012, 02:36 PM
Steelers OL Coach Sean Kugler Not Opposed To Starting DeCastro & Adams If Both Can Win Jobs

Wednesday, June 6th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

The Pittsburgh Steelers are wrapping up their third and final OTA session this week prior to the mandatory mini-camp that takes place next and offensive line coach Sean Kugler evidently talked to the media today after practice.

According to Scott Brown of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Kugler said today that he'd like to have a starting five in place by start of training camp at the end of July. This statement is not too surprising by Kugler, but it figures that the starting five that end mini-camp next week will likely line up as starters once training camp gets underway at the end of July. Of course there is no guarantee in that.

Rookies David DeCastro and Mike Adams have both missed all of the OTA sessions thus far because of school requirements, but it was reported this past week that both will be present for mini-camp. As far as the opportunity for both to be part of the Steelers starting five, Kugler said that he wouldn't have a problem starting two rookies if they can earn the jobs. The Steelers have not started two rookies on the offensive line at the same time in the first week of the regular season in at least 40 years, and there is a good chance that it hasn't happened during the Super Bowl era.

As far as which group both DeCastro and Adams will run with next week at mini-camp. Brown reports that Kugler said that DeCastro will work with the first and second team, as will Adams. With the two draft picks unable to participate in any of the OTA sessions thus far, Marcus Gilbert, Jonatthan Scott and Trai Essex have all taken first team reps at left tackle over the course of the three weeks. Gilbert, who was told heading into the off-season that he should prepare to play left tackle this year after ending his rookie season as the starting right tackle in place of the injured Willie Colon, has said over the last few weeks that he should not be ruled out of the running for the starting left tackle job despite the Steelers drafting of Adams. Gilbert says the left tackle spot is his natural position and a passion of his to play. That said, he still has reportedly taken quite a few reps at right tackle over the course of the last few weeks.

At right guard, where DeCastro figures to compete for the starting job, Ramon Foster is speculated as being the one to take most of the first team snaps the last two weeks after sitting out the initial OTA session with a hamstring strain.

We should get a better idea of how the first and second units stack up next week and hopefully the media can continue to pass along that information.

http://www.fanfeedr.com/nfl/pittsburgh-steelers?id=cbc7fed0-27e9-5564-bdb5-b47a33888d34

ricardisimo
06-07-2012, 05:24 AM
Mike Adams Will Miss Steelers Final OTA Session As Originally Expected

Sunday, June 3rd, 2012 by Dave Bryan

Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette speculated on Wednesday of last week that rookie tackle Mike Adams might be able to attend the Pittsburgh Steelers third and final OTA session that gets underway this week after being told last Tuesday that players can attend once their course work ends, not necessarily when the semester ends. Unfortunately that will not be the case as Adams will not be in Pittsburgh this week according to Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review.

Adams should still be able to make the final mini-camp that runs June 12-14 as Ohio State graduates next weekend. Like Adams, both David DeCastro and Alameda Ta'amu will also miss their third OTA session this week in addition. It is still unknown for certain if either of those two players will be able to join Adams in making the final mini-camp just yet. The University of Washington reportedly has commencement dates of June 8-10, while Stanford University commencement dates are set for June 14-17.

Adams, who was drafted by the Steelers in the second round this past April, is considered by many to be a candidate to compete for the starting left tackle spot this year, but missing all of the OTA sessions, along with the installation of the new offense of Todd Haley, has certainly not helped his chances. The same could be said for DeCastro, who the Steelers likely hope can win the starting right guard job this year out of training camp. DeCastro however is considered more NFL ready than Adams following the draft and both still have all of training camp to make their marks and win starting spots on the offensive line.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/06/mike-adams-will-miss-steelers-final-ota-session-as-originally-expected/
So then, what the hell is going on in these photos (http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/1919939-85/kugler-tackle-adams-decastro-steelers-guys-offensive-guard-minicamp-offseason)? What exactly am I missing? :huh:

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Are they allowed to participate in drills or aren't they?

Galax Steeler
06-07-2012, 05:38 AM
They was alowed to participate in the rookie camp that took place shortley after the draft but that is it.

Hawaii 5-0
06-12-2012, 05:04 PM
Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib via twitter:

Essex on Adams after Kugler got on him for quitting on a play: "A little thing like effort doesn't take a lot of talent to fix."

"Mike Adams learned that's not how we do things here."

https://twitter.com/#!/search/from:ScottBrown_Trib%20OR%20from:MarkKaboly_Trib%2 0OR%20from:RalphPaulk_Trib?q=from%3AScottBrown_Tri b+OR+from%3AMarkKaboly_Trib+OR+from%3ARalphPaulk_T rib

teegre
06-12-2012, 05:18 PM
Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib via twitter:

Essex on Adams after Kugler got on him for quitting on a play: "A little thing like effort doesn't take a lot of talent to fix."

"Mike Adams learned that's not how we do things here."

https://twitter.com/#!/search/from:ScottBrown_Trib%20OR%20from:MarkKaboly_Trib%2 0OR%20from:RalphPaulk_Trib?q=from%3AScottBrown_Tri b+OR+from%3AMarkKaboly_Trib+OR+from%3ARalphPaulk_T rib

Adams's effort is my biggest concern (not the weed).

In Kugler I trust.

Hawaii 5-0
06-12-2012, 06:08 PM
Rookies DeCastro, Adams busy as minicamp begins

UPDATED JUN 12, 2012
Associated Press


PITTSBURGH (AP)
Willie Colon couldn't help himself. When rookies David DeCastro and Mike Adams walk into the offensive huddle during the opening practice of minicamp on Tuesday, the veteran left guard decided to have a little fun at the expense of the new kids.

''It smells like baby milk and pampers in here,'' Colon said just before quarterback Ben Roethlisberger called out a play.

Hopefully, not for long.

The Steelers wasted little time putting their top two draft picks to work during their first drills with the veterans. Both players split time with the first team after missing three weeks of organized team activities while finishing their studies.

Offensive line coach Sean Kugler did his best to keep his two new projects up to speed, calling them daily to go through reps and relay questions that came up during meetings.

Adams - taken in the second round out of Ohio State - would often bring his playbook and his iPad wherever he went during his final days on campus to help fight off boredom.

''To be honest, I'd be in class watching film and stuff like that,'' he said. ''I kind of checked out of school a while ago, just wanting to be here, getting back with my team.''

While allowing he's never ''satisfied,'' coach Mike Tomlin wasn't displeased with what he saw from either player.

''I'm comfortable with where they are and what they were able to display today,'' Tomlin said. ''Obviously they're working on limited time. They need to hurry up to catch up.''

At least they're here. The same can't be said for wide receiver Mike Wallace, who has remained in Louisiana during the offseason. The restricted free agent has yet to sign his first-round tender though Tomlin remains optimistic Wallace will be in the fold when camp starts in late July.

''It's probably short-term misery,'' Tomlin said. ''Hopefully there will be closure at some point and this will be in our rearview mirror.''

Tomlin won't have to push Adams to put his college career behind him while he tries to shed the reputation he received during a bumpy four years with the Buckeyes. The massive 6-foot-7, 323 pound Adams was an All-Big Ten selection in 2010 and made the second team last year despite being limited to eight games because of his role in the scandal that eventually led to coach Jim Tressel's dismissal.

Throw in his failed drug test just before the NFL combine and Adams arrives in Pittsburgh with plenty of baggage to go with his potential.

''I think some people question my ability (as a person) and as a football player,'' Adams said. ''As long as I do what I'm told and do what I'm taught I'll be alright.''

He won't have to look far for guidance. The locker room is littered with leaders, Colon among them.

The affable 29-year-old is now the elder statesmen among the linemen and is moving from right tackle to left guard. If Adams and DeCastro both do enough during training camp to be starters, Colon will have as much experience as the other four starters combined.

Asked if that makes him feel like a grandfather, Colon smiled and said, ''I don't know about grandpa. Maybe like an uncle.''

One who - much like Adams and DeCastro - is finding himself thrust into a new role. Colon appeared to have a lengthy future at right tackle after signing a five-year extension last summer.

The elation lasted all of one game. Colon tore his right triceps in the season-opener against Baltimore and underwent season-ending surgery. Rookie Marcus Gilbert eventually found a home at the spot, playing so well he'll likely be the starter there when the Steelers open the 2012 season at Denver on Sept. 9.

Gilbert's quick maturation gave the Steelers the freedom to move Colon to left guard. It's unfamiliar territory, but one Colon will gladly explore.

''I'm comfortable because I have no choice but to be comfortable,'' Colon said. ''Besides, I get to play next to (center Maurkice Pouncey). I'm excited. We're like two nasty dogs. Hopefully DeCastro can jump along and we can be three nasty dogs in the middle.''

DeCastro, the 24th overall pick out of Stanford, saves his nasty streak for the field. The soft-spoken 22-year-old spent his final month in college completing his degree in management, science and engineering. His final exams consisted of two projects and a test in his class on linear optimization.

Math, really hard math, in case you're wondering.

DeCastro talked about the exam with a shoulder shrug, saying simply ''it wasn't too bad.'' Maybe, but like Adams, DeCastro is eager to get started on his first real job.

The two rookies do have at least one thing going for them, they don't have to unlearn the system used by former Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians. They come to the team as blank slates and their responsibilities really haven't changed despite the jump from college to one of the NFL's top teams.

''The playcalls are different, but the schemes are the same,'' DeCastro said.

It's the stakes that are higher. DeCastro and Adams are part of a young nucleus that will likely protect Roethlisberger for the remainder of his career. Gilbert is entering his second season, Pouncey his third.

They will be given time to grow and the team has never hesitated to thrust young players into tough spots and let them learn on the fly.

It's what happened to Colon, who started 16 games in his third season while helping the Steelers to the Super Bowl.

''With the Super Bowls we won in the past, it wasn't on the strength of the receivers, it was the on the offensive line,'' he said. ''If we can stack some championships up, that will be a testament to the offensive line coach and the guys in that room. Hopefully we do well.''

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/rookies_decastro_adams_busy_as_minicamp_begins/10996490

Galax Steeler
06-12-2012, 08:56 PM
Nice read Hawaii thanks for sharing.

TheVet
06-12-2012, 10:04 PM
lol, now Trai Essex is complaining about someone else's lack of effort in finishing up a play!!!

:uhh: ... uhhhhhh seriously, but thanks for losing some weight Trai

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Nice read Hawaii thanks for sharing.
As always, you the man!

Hawaii 5-0
06-13-2012, 12:42 AM
Steelers' top 2 draft picks start 'process' at last

June 13, 2012
By Gerry Dulac / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

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Steelers No. 1 pick David DeCastro works on his first day in uniform.

The Steelers saw the future of their offensive line on the football field for the first time Tuesday, even if it was a little disjointed. That might soon change.

Their top two draft choices -- guard David DeCastro and tackle Michael Adams -- finally got to join their new teammates after being forced to miss all offseason training activities. They will spend the next two days of the three-day minicamp getting to know the veteran players in the locker room and hoping to make a bigger impression on the coaching staff.

"I'm so happy to get here with these guys," said Adams, a second-round choice from Ohio State. "I kind of checked out of school a while ago. I just wanted to be here, be back with my team."

DeCastro, their No. 1 pick from Stanford, and Adams might be future starters on the offensive line, perhaps as early as training camp. But they began minicamp with the second team.

DeCastro lined up at right guard -- the position he likely will man with the first team when the regular season begins Sept. 9 in Denver. Adams lined up at left tackle -- a position currently manned by Marcus Gilbert, the Steelers' No. 2 draft choice last year who started 15 games at right tackle as a rookie.

"That's why you play the game," DeCastro said about being a starter. "I don't think anyone in this room wants to be a bench-warmer."

Neither could participate in the voluntary OTAs because NFL rules prohibit attendance from players whose college classes haven't graduated. But DeCastro and Adams were given a playbook and video of the new offense under Todd Haley to better prepare them for minicamp.

"I was as well prepared as I could have been," DeCastro said.

The Steelers opened minicamp with Gilbert at left tackle, Willie Colon at left guard, Maurkice Pouncey at center, Ramon Foster at right guard and veteran Trai Essex at tackle. But coach Mike Tomlin could change the rotation today on the second day of minicamp, hinting that he could move up DeCastro and/or Adams to work with the first team.

"It will be a process," Tomlin said. "We're going to do things to put them in situations to see how they respond. I wouldn't read into it, particularly football in shorts. We're going to put them in situations against good people just for exposure and learn more about them. That's down the line when you start reading into what group they're taking snaps with. That's going to be more of a Latrobe type of thing."

Then Tomlin added, "I'm comfortable with where they are and what they were able to display today. They're working on limited time. They need to hurry up to catch up."

The Steelers admittedly are taking a chance on Adams, who grew up in Farrell but attended high school in Dublin, Ohio. His draft stock dropped after he tested positive for marijuana at the scouting combine and subsequently lied about it to NFL coaches and general managers.

But the Steelers took him in the second round after he met with Tomlin, president Art Rooney II and general manager Kevin Colbert in March -- a meeting at which he bared his soul and promised to do whatever necessary to convince them he is not an at-risk pick.

"I take things one day at a time," he said between two-a-day practices on the South Side. "If I do the right things, day in and day out, I think I will be in the right place."

And what is the right place?

"For me, win Super Bowls with this team," Adams said. "The personal goal I have is to be All-Pro a few times before I retire."

Last year, Gilbert started 15 games at right tackle after Colon tore his tricep tendon in the opener in Baltimore, ending his season. Gilbert, though, got off to a slow start in training camp because he reported overweight and didn't have the benefit of OTAs and minicamp because of the lockout.

"I didn't know anything," Gilbert said. "I came into training camp not knowing what's going on. I had a little help from Maurkice [Pouncey] because he was my friend, but I didn't get the whole understanding of the offense. I didn't get a playbook, I didn't get to work with the weight staff, I didn't get the feel of being around the guys till training camp. I didn't know who was willing to work with me."

Gilbert said he already could tell the difference in DeCastro and Adams.

"Coach was giving out a verbal test in meetings, and they were shooting out all the right answers. You could tell they were doing their studying. You could tell these guys wanted to come in and work and try to compete for a job."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-top-2-draft-picks-start-process-at-last-640102/#ixzz1xdaTCGtI

Hawaii 5-0
06-13-2012, 01:07 AM
Kovacevic: Two rookies? Yeah, why not?

By Dejan Kovacevic
Published: Wednesday, June 13, 2012

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Truth be told, by the Steelers’ first snap of the 2012 opener in Denver, there will be two rookies on the offensive line. Bet your Tunch & Wolf dual bobblehead on it.

David DeCastro will be at right guard.

Mike Adams will be at left tackle.

Too many signs point too strongly to Mike Tomlin starting both of his top draft picks right away to believe otherwise.

But bet on this, too: All concerned will be delighted to put on the predictable show of competition in the interim. Or, as Tomlin would describe it, “We wanted to put them in some uncomfortable situations and see how they respond.”

You could see it Tuesday morning with the coaches’ initial formations for the first day of minicamp on the sweltering South Side. Left to right, the line was Marcus Gilbert, Willie Colon, Maurkice Pouncey, Ramon Foster and Trai Essex. All vets.

The kids just watched, and not by accident.

“Everyone’s got to earn it,” Essex said.

You could see it with Adams’ first play. He planted his hand in the grass, raised his chin and met eyes with old Ohio State bud Cam Heyward. “Good to see a familiar face,” Adams recalled thinking. It wasn’t good for long. Heyward blew right by him, followed by line coach Sean Kugler blowing up that Adams then failed to finish the play.

“Think I messed that up,” Adams would lament later.

You could see it with DeCastro and Adams seated at their adjacent locker stalls afterward, well away from the linemen’s long-established cove in the far corner. Both held court with reporters, but both looked eager — no, desperate — for the sessions to end. Nothing brings barbs from the older guys quite like rookies surrounded by media.

Which probably explains this exchange …

Me: David, do you feel you’re prepared for this challenge?

DeCastro: “Yeah.”

Me: Would you consider it a great leap to go right from college to starting in the NFL?

DeCastro: “Yeah.”

Good thing that voice recorder was at full charge.

I kid, but the next thing I see wrong with this whole scenario will be the first.

Sure, Tomlin and Kevin Colbert got a gift when DeCastro stunningly plunged to No. 24 in the first round, but they still made the right call in securing two studs to protect Ben Roethlisberger. Not many investments matter if the franchise QB is lost.

I also like that management is open –—most likely leaning — toward bucking their own history with rookies.

Why not let the talent play?

This is nuts, but the Steelers of the Super Bowl era have had as many rookie offensive linemen start a season-opener as they’ve had head coaches: Chuck Noll had Tom Ricketts in 1989, Bill Cowher had Marvel Smith in 2000, and Tomlin, of course, fell for Pouncey at first sight two years ago.

Never in the franchise’s 80-year history has more than one rookie opened the season starting on the offensive line.

But times change, and it’s incumbent on even the staid Steelers to change with them.

According to a January study by the SB Nation web network, the NFL had 45 offensive linemen drafted in the top two rounds from 2008-11. Of those 45 picks, 33 started the majority of their teams’ games as rookies. Another eight had major injuries, leaving just four players as exceptions.

That’s a 90 percent starting rate from the rounds that produced DeCastro and Adams.

So why not these two?

Because they missed offseason workouts to comply with NFL rules for college seniors?

Tyron Smith, Dallas’ first-round left tackle in 2011, missed OTAs and minicamp and had to learn a new playbook, but he still started every game as a rookie and wound up grading as one of the NFL’s five best tackles.

DeCastro is in that class. He’s a baby Alan Faneca — even wearing the same No. 66 — in that he’s bullishly strong and athletic enough to pull. He’s also blessed with Stanford smarts. Monosyllabic answers aside, he just completed a degree in management, science and engineering that included a thesis on something called linear optimization.

Here’s guessing that was more challenging than those cyber-playbooks Todd Haley had been sending DeCastro and Adams.

Adams is different. And, to his credit, he seems to grasp that.

He’s a 6-foot-7, 323-pound tower of a man, probably visible across the Mon when he comes out of his stance. His talent is first-round caliber, too. But doubts will — and should — linger about his inexplicably ill-advised positive marijuana test on the eve of the NFL combine in February. Only his pursuit of a meeting with Tomlin and Colbert put him back on the Steelers’ draft board.

I asked Adams if he felt he had something to prove, and he came back loud and clear: “Yes, sir, I do. I think some people question me as a person and as a football player. But as long as I do what I’m told, I’ll be all right.’’

Both of them will be.

Yeah.

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