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El-Gonzo Jackson
06-06-2012, 11:57 AM
Yeah, got to love this from your fans when you throw away a game.

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MACH1
06-06-2012, 12:02 PM
LeChoke strikes again. :toofunny:

tony hipchest
06-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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:chuckle:

i love the spurs but i cant wait to see my sonics take home the title...

Bayz101
06-06-2012, 03:28 PM
It's time for Durant to get his ring. He's better than Lebron in every way. He's clutch.

Edit: And yes. I'm still butt-hurt over Lebron leaving Cleveland. But watching him fail with Miami is something he didn't do here in Cleveland. He's a one man show. He can't work with a talented team, and he passes away the ball when he can make the clutch shots.

MACH1
06-06-2012, 03:40 PM
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:sofunny:

Since my team shit the bed I'm sort of rooting for OKC this year.

Bayz101
06-06-2012, 03:50 PM
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steelax04
06-06-2012, 04:53 PM
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Haha... I about pissed myself.

Bayz101
06-06-2012, 06:05 PM
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Bayz101
06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
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Bayz101
06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
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tony hipchest
06-06-2012, 06:31 PM
hey mike, labron says hes gonna win not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6. NOT 7 championships....

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MACH1
06-06-2012, 07:05 PM
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Bayz101
06-06-2012, 07:07 PM
Should rename this "Official make fun of the Miami Heat Thread" and sticky it :sofunny:

MACH1
06-06-2012, 07:14 PM
Should rename this "Official make fun of the Miami Heat Thread" and sticky it :sofunny:

May need one for the spurs too.

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Bayz101
06-06-2012, 07:16 PM
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MACH1
06-06-2012, 07:22 PM
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Bayz101
06-06-2012, 07:25 PM
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I swear my rep button is going to be broken :sofunny:

Edman
06-07-2012, 07:03 AM
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This will never stop being funny.

Bayz101
06-08-2012, 09:13 PM
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El-Gonzo Jackson
06-09-2012, 11:10 AM
They may still get their shot for a title after tonight. Not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 5, not 6, not 7.................

TRH
06-10-2012, 08:37 AM
#!&#! Celtics! I HATE the heat, last thing i want to see LeBron do is get that ring.

Good news is that the OKC Thunder are WAY better than the Celtics, younger, and have the best player in today's game, Kevin Durant. I can't see the Heat getting past OKC....

Also : as good as Miami DID play in the 4th quarter, i think they're unfairly getting all the props in the media. Just as equal to that was Boston completely not even showing up in the 4th. Rondo was the only one playing well, everyone else just completely ran out of gas. Garnett was sucking wind and no one else's shots would drop...everything thrown up was a miss. Its like there was one Celtic on the court in the 4th and five Heat players. Boston was pathetic.
No way Oklahoma City plays that bad or runs out of gas.

Bayz101
06-11-2012, 05:03 PM
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Bayz101
06-13-2012, 03:51 AM
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Bayz101
06-13-2012, 03:52 AM
Miami dominated the first quarter, OKC controlled the third, and OBLITERATED Miami in the fourth.

TRH
06-13-2012, 07:43 AM
OKC really showed "team" in that game. They played good defense, they attacked the rim and dribbled right through Miami, and they were sinking those perimter shots...SO much better than the one-dimensional Heat. I hope the roll continues, if anything, to prove that you can't just "purchase" a championship, as Miami has tried to do.
But even a better reason is the fact that the OKC guys are just downright good people and Kevin Durant is the epitomy of what a superstar should really be as opposed to the self-serving, arrogant Wade and James.

Bayz101
06-13-2012, 08:16 AM
OKC really showed "team" in that game. They played good defense, they attacked the rim and dribbled right through Miami, and they were sinking those perimter shots...SO much better than the one-dimensional Heat. I hope the roll continues, if anything, to prove that you can't just "purchase" a championship, as Miami has tried to do.
But even a better reason is the fact that the OKC guys are just downright good people and Kevin Durant is the epitomy of what a superstar should really be as opposed to the self-serving, arrogant Wade and James.

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TRH
06-14-2012, 08:27 AM
Game 3 tonight. Miami will make serious adjustments. Look for them to drive hard to the basket like they did in the last 2 games against the Celtics. OKC has to find a way to steal the ball when they do this, because Miami is good at forcing fouls.
Miami has to make quite a few adjustments...possibly enough to cause confusion on their own side.

The one thing not talked about is that James Hardin was missing-in-action during the 1st game. It was all Westbrook and Durant. Not good news for Miami because he will step up...they cover Duirant more...Hardin, who is such a great shooter, will score in bunches.
Should be another interesting game.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 09:06 AM
OKC needs this game. They can't afford to drop one at home. Look for Westbrook to drop off in scoring a little bit, but Durant and Hardin to perform. I think Durant will score 35+.

This will be an interesting game..

MACH1
06-14-2012, 01:05 PM
Game 3 tonight. Miami will make serious adjustments. Look for them to drive hard to the basket like they did in the last 2 games against the Celtics. OKC has to find a way to steal the ball when they do this, because Miami is good at forcing fouls.
Miami has to make quite a few adjustments...possibly enough to cause confusion on their own side.

The one thing not talked about is that James Hardin was missing-in-action during the 1st game. It was all Westbrook and Durant. Not good news for Miami because he will step up...they cover Duirant more...Hardin, who is such a great shooter, will score in bunches.
Should be another interesting game.

:huh: Did I miss one somewhere?

If Westbrook pass's more instead of taking iffy shots Durant will have a monster game. And if James Worthy oops I mean Harden gets it going it's gonna be a blowout.

TRH
06-14-2012, 01:07 PM
OKC needs this game. They can't afford to drop one at home. Look for Westbrook to drop off in scoring a little bit, but Durant and Hardin to perform. I think Durant will score 35+.

This will be an interesting game..

i think you're right......the only thing with Durant is that Miami will be looking to attack and guard Durant, with LeBron attempting to work him over. I don't know if he'll get 30 tonight. But Hardin should be opened up for opportunities at that point....and no way he is a non-factor like the 1st game.
I think OKC needs this game as well. To win, they must play great defense...James and Wade will be attacking the basket aggressively tonight. If they stop that plus create the turnovers on the attacks, they win easily.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 08:15 PM
Heat looking stronger this first quarter than even yesterday's first. Come on Thunder!

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:01 PM
They need to get this within 8 points going into the fourth.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:04 PM
Nice pullup jumper Westbrook. Need a stop and a three.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:09 PM
DEFENSE and Two pointers. No need to jack up the three, just sink some easy close shots. Need to keep Durant from having to go to the basket. He's in foul trouble, don't want too much contact.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:16 PM
Wow. Durant just sparked his team. Great job, within eight. Now let's get Lebron in this to throw up some bricks.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Damn. This is getting interesting.

Bayz101
06-14-2012, 10:36 PM
This shit going to come down to the last second.

MACH1
06-14-2012, 11:09 PM
Boooooooooo

TRH
06-14-2012, 11:58 PM
well........this one's EASY.......you can't start a game down 18-2 and win. Ain't going to happen. If OKC would have started the game on somewhat of an even par, they would have won by 5-10 points tonite. Thats the second slow start by the Thunder and they had a game like that when they faced the Spurs earlier in the playoffs.....and one in the first round as well. Can't be doing that.

Brooks game plan for Sunday better be : START THE DAMN GAME with some passion.

Steelersfan87
06-15-2012, 02:46 AM
Forgive me for not reading this entire thread, but is it safe to assume that I'm the only one on the forum not rooting for LeBron to fail?

Bayz101
06-15-2012, 02:57 AM
Forgive me for not reading this entire thread, but is it safe to assume that I'm the only one on the forum not rooting for LeBron to fail?

Not rooting for him to fail, rooting for the team to fail. You shouldn't be able to buy a championship. Durant deserves this, Lebron's arrogant, and a choke artist when the game's on the line. He could have put the game away with a three at the end, and tanked it. Okc rallied back from there.

TRH
06-15-2012, 08:14 AM
Forgive me for not reading this entire thread, but is it safe to assume that I'm the only one on the forum not rooting for LeBron to fail?


I, or alot of people are not particularly rooting for LeBron to fail.....but for OKC to win. Durant is what a superstar should be, an engaging, humble, great guy....as opposed to supreme arrogance and "self-proclaimed" kings who treated staff in Cleveland (and probably does in Miami too) like garbage and lowlifes. I've heard many horror stories about this and i have a friend in the media in Cleveland who said it was embarrassing how LeBron treated the Cavalier staff, trainers, caterers, etc like peasants from the 16 century.
The main reason i don't want Miami to win though is to prove that you can't just "purchase" a championship....as they tried to do last year...instead of building a great team through drafts and trades.
Dallas was incredible last year for not letting that happen.
I still think OKC can win this. If they didn't have that dreadful first half of the 1st quarter...then they win last night and we're having a different conversation today. I'm sure the focus with the team over the next day or two will be to make sure they don't get off to a horrendous start again.

Steelersfan87
06-15-2012, 07:53 PM
The NBA is not the NFL. You can buy championships, and it's been done numerous times. Sorry to break that to both of you. The Lakers had one home grown star and then brought in the rest. Same with Boston. And, apparently many are forgetting...same with Miami. I like Miami precisely for the fact that it's an interesting experiment in team building. Pat Riley has done a tremendous job in building a complete team behind his three stars.

Besides, it's not like the Heat don't have significant homegrown talent, even outside of Wade. What about Mario Chalmers? What about Udonis Haslem? Joel Anthony? Norris Cole? Dexter Pittman? Other than Shane Battier and Mike Miller (and once in a blue moon James Jones), the supplementary players are far from 'bought'. The Heat didn't have the luxury of being terrible for so long that they were able to draft early enough to get players like Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, and James Harden.

OKC got Sefolosha from Chicago. Perkins from Boston. Fisher from LA by way of Houston. Nazr Mohamed has been all over the place.

Also, LeBron James is the most overscrutinized human being on this entire planet. Let me know when he actually commits a crime or something. Choke artist, blah blah blah. Review the tapes from the run-up to the finals the past two seasons against Chicago, Indiana, and Boston twice.

MACH1
06-16-2012, 01:09 AM
The Lakers had one home grown star and then brought in the rest

Really? Please enlighten me.

Steelersfan87
06-16-2012, 03:56 AM
Okay, that one was an exaggeration, but they undeniably have had significant contributions from acquisitions under Phil Jackson, like Shaq, Ron Harper, Robert Horry (how many game winners did he hit anyway?), Rick Fox, Horace Grant, Ron Artest, Shannon Brown, Pau Gasol, Mbenga, Lamar Odom...I mean, I can go on. And there's just as many bench warmers that fill the role guys like Juwan Howard are filling for the Heat now. A lot of the more recent Lakers teams are made up more of acquired players than guys they drafted. Now that I think of it, the Heat probably have as many players that they first drafted or signed than those Jackson Lakers teams: Dwayne Wade, Mario Chalmers, Udonis Haslem, Joel Anthony, Norris Cole, Dexter Pittman, Terrel Harris...that's 7 out of 15 that have never played for another team. The 2000 Lakers technically have 9 out of 15 players that they didn't draft. 2 they acquired their rights either on draft day or soon after, so the Lakers were the first team they ultimately played for. But there's also A.C. Green, who was originally on the Lakers, then spent years on other teams, and then finally came back and won. So depending on how you classify those last 3 guys, the 2000 Lakers championship team had anywhere between 7 and 10 'acquired' players.

MACH1
06-16-2012, 11:43 AM
By that logic the celtics, bulls, spurs also 'bought' their championships.
Jordon also left and came back, does that make him an acquired talent.

Steelersfan87
06-16-2012, 04:50 PM
My point was that a lot of teams in the NBA 'buy' their championships, so if the logic further supports my claim, then I'll take it. And by "left" I meant "was on other teams for like a decade", not "didn't play basketball at all for a couple years". The point is that this Heat team is not much different from many many championship teams, where a nucleus of one homegrown superstar and a few homegrown contributors is surrounded by acquired talent. There are not many NBA teams that are able to build through the draft, and the ones that manage to do so usually have to suck for several years like the Thunder and the Bulls in order for that to work. Free agency plays a major role in the success of NBA teams.

And I understand that a lot of people are rooting FOR the Thunder, but you can't deny that there are tons of people that are more excited about the prospects of James failing than the Thunder succeeding. Probably more of the former than the latter.

TRH
06-17-2012, 10:04 PM
wow.

That was one of the most frustrating NBA games i've ever seen. OKC is blowing this. The series, in reality, should be 3-0 right now.
Game 2 : They go down 18-freaking-2, which is unheard of, to start the game. That doesn't happen, they win the game.
Game 3 : They foul shoot worse than grade-schoolers. It was miss-miss-miss-miss-miss-miss, and on and on. Meanwhile, Miami is sinking ALL of theirs....it was ridiculous. They foul shoot as normal its another win. (it also didn't help that none of their shots were dropping and the ref's were horrible.....James was getting away with MURDER on the floor).

Very frustrating. OKC should be up 3-0.....instead they're now down 1-2. They better make some adjustments and real quick. If i was Brooks i'd make them all stand there and shoot foul shots for 6 hours straight tomorrow.

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-18-2012, 03:34 PM
By that logic the celtics, bulls, spurs also 'bought' their championships.
Jordon also left and came back, does that make him an acquired talent.

The notion of free agency has now equated to "buying a championship". Apparantly its an easy thing to do that some are implying.

I guess that is why teams that made big moves for free agents like Charles Barkley, Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Carmelo Anthony, Amare Stoudemire, Steve Nash, etc. All won championships..................uh, yeah......its easy to buy championships in the NBA.

TRH
06-19-2012, 10:00 PM
all moot points....in this instance, 3 superstar players "banded" together to sign with one team to "buy" the championship. Arguments can be made for the above cases, yes....but never was anything as blatant as this was.

As for tonight's 4th game : Its just starting the 4th quarter right now and i have NEVER...never....in all my life...seen officiating this bad and one-sided as i'm seeing tonight. They're calling stuff thats not even happening (as pointed out numerous times by the announcer team).
Makes you never want to watch a game again....

Steelersfan87
06-19-2012, 10:52 PM
The fans of the team that is losing always feel the referees are doing a terrible job. As a Steeler fan, you should know better. :flap:

I didn't think the officiating was overly poor (if anything, there were more missed calls than excessive calls), but regardless, officiating is, in 99% of cases, not an excuse. LeBron James' 3 pointer with about 3 minutes left (I think) felt like a game changer, and it turned out to be just that.

TRH
06-19-2012, 11:43 PM
Well, once again, OKC beat themselves. Another game they should have won.....they actually could have sweeped the series.
2 guys (Westbrook and Durant) can't beat the Heat all by themselves.
Thanks James Harden - for not SHOWING up again for the 3rd straight game. And the entire team, aside from Westbrook, was playing at like 70% intensity after the 1st quarter while Miami gave 100% the entire game.
Very frustrating loss. I'm starting to question Brooks coaching....he should have been all over this. No excuse for the team to look like they were loafing out there.

Steelersfan87
06-20-2012, 01:55 AM
I don't know, I'm kind of thinking the Heat had at least a little bit to do with the last three games. It's not always the case that when the team you're pulling for loses, it's because they beat themselves, where you secretly know that they should have won. Miami is a damn good team who's depth is sometimes underrated, and I do feel that they won this game more than OKC lost it. The way that they completely erased a 17 point deficit in less than a quarter was very impressive. And they won the critical 3rd quarter by 7 points, turning a 3 point halftime deficit into a 4 point lead entering the final frame. And they made most of the clutch plays and the hustle plays all night. Maybe they don't have a James Harden coming off the bench (which admittedly, he has not been at his best during this series; but that is also partially due to the fact that Miami is one of the best defensive teams in the league), but Norris Cole and Udonis Haslem are not too bad. And when Mario Chalmers is on his game, like he finally was tonight (TWELVE points in the 4th I believe? Thanks for showing up), the Heat are really tough to beat. Which, by the way, now that I bring up Chalmers, I do recall two non-calls against him that could have gone the Thunder's way.

I almost wish I wasn't a fan of either team, because this would be an amazing series to watch without a dog in the race. Although if it wasn't Miami or the Knicks, I'd be rooting for the Thunder to win anyway. I understand perfectly why so many people like them, including Steelers fans in particular. It's impossible not to like them, although Westbrook gets on my nerves sometimes. I haven't seen anybody so lethal on the jumper on a given night like he was tonight in years though, I'll give him that. Although he also had that lovely rim rejection on a dunk attempt. And Harden had that horrible botched gimme layup.

Pardon the thought-spew above.

ricardisimo
06-20-2012, 02:44 AM
Forgive me for not reading this entire thread, but is it safe to assume that I'm the only one on the forum not rooting for LeBron to fail?
Having grown up in Cleveland, and having left there as soon as I could without actually being a teenage runaway, I thought LeBron displayed admirable patience remaining in that loser town as long as he did. Now, choosing to move to a cesspool like Miami instead is a demerit against him, so this is lose-lose... or win-win if you couldn't care less about basketball, Cleveland or Miami, as is my case.

Having said all of this, he is clearly an amazing talent, a fact which shouldn't be overlooked. Not sure where all of the hate is coming from. I would think Steeler fans would appreciate someone who popped Cleveland the finger in such dramatic fashion. :noidea:

TRH
06-20-2012, 07:24 AM
I don't know, I'm kind of thinking the Heat had at least a little bit to do with the last three games. It's not always the case that when the team you're pulling for loses, it's because they beat themselves, where you secretly know that they should have won. Miami is a damn good team who's depth is sometimes underrated, and I do feel that they won this game more than OKC lost it. The way that they completely erased a 17 point deficit in less than a quarter was very impressive. And they won the critical 3rd quarter by 7 points, turning a 3 point halftime deficit into a 4 point lead entering the final frame. And they made most of the clutch plays and the hustle plays all night. Maybe they don't have a James Harden coming off the bench (which admittedly, he has not been at his best during this series; but that is also partially due to the fact that Miami is one of the best defensive teams in the league), but Norris Cole and Udonis Haslem are not too bad. And when Mario Chalmers is on his game, like he finally was tonight (TWELVE points in the 4th I believe? Thanks for showing up), the Heat are really tough to beat. Which, by the way, now that I bring up Chalmers, I do recall two non-calls against him that could have gone the Thunder's way.

I almost wish I wasn't a fan of either team, because this would be an amazing series to watch without a dog in the race. Although if it wasn't Miami or the Knicks, I'd be rooting for the Thunder to win anyway. I understand perfectly why so many people like them, including Steelers fans in particular. It's impossible not to like them, although Westbrook gets on my nerves sometimes. I haven't seen anybody so lethal on the jumper on a given night like he was tonight in years though, I'll give him that. Although he also had that lovely rim rejection on a dunk attempt. And Harden had that horrible botched gimme layup.

Pardon the thought-spew above.


I hear what you are saying and i agree with you....Miami have played pretty well this series and LeBron (whom i do NOT like), i will admit, has been fabulous.

But even with that....the Thunder have been right there in each of the losses and in a world where they played like they did the entire year, they win at least two, if not all, of those games.
- the refs have been horrible with most of the benefit going to the Heat (note i said most, not all...but they have made some critical bad and "non" calls against the Thunder that should never have been called). Its been SO bad, that even Tim Legler was on this morning, making a very stern point about this, which is unusual for him, as he's usually pretty balanced
-Its been the Westbrook and Durant show. Only. No one else is even showing up. Where the $#!*@! is James Harden and what the hell is he doing out there? He's usually "money" and a pure-shooter and he's not hitting nothing, taking bad shots, etc. Best comment i heard last night after the game was (i think it was Stephen A. Smith) say Harden should come out of the showers and apologize to the entire team.
-the lack of hustle aside from Westbrook and Durant. There have been numerous transitions where the Thunder are half-heartedly jogging down to the otherside while Miami is driving right past them. In one instance, Westbrook scores a layup last night, then makes it down to play defense and he was the first one down there back to the other side...HOW the hell does that happen??????

Very frustrating and unfortunately, i hate to say this, but it just looks like Miami WANTS it more.

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-20-2012, 10:22 AM
Well, once again, OKC beat themselves. Another game they should have won.....they actually could have sweeped the series.
2 guys (Westbrook and Durant) can't beat the Heat all by themselves.
Thanks James Harden - for not SHOWING up again for the 3rd straight game. And the entire team, aside from Westbrook, was playing at like 70% intensity after the 1st quarter while Miami gave 100% the entire game.
Very frustrating loss. I'm starting to question Brooks coaching....he should have been all over this. No excuse for the team to look like they were loafing out there.

Yeah, Harden hasnt done anything. I'll start a conspiracy theory that he is on the take.

OKC looks inexperienced and confused at times, not getting back in transition or getting to the glass. They have become the jump shooting team that is living or dying by the jumpshot and Harden could not hit water from a boat......because he is on the take. :wink02:

Steelersfan87
06-20-2012, 03:14 PM
OKC looks inexperienced and confused at times, not getting back in transition or getting to the glass. They have become the jump shooting team that is living or dying by the jumpshot and Harden could not hit water from a boat.

Agreed. The Thunder definitely have some issues to work on if they hope to make it back to their home city with a chance for the title still intact. I'm actually quite surprised at their poor rebounding, which the Heat struggled with last year against bigger or more physical teams. But even with Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison on the floor, the Heat have been outrebounding in the last 3 games, in large part thanks to Bosh (how big has he been making 'winning plays', as Van Gundy would say) and James. Despite how well the Thunder are capable of hitting the jump shots, they are better when they are not forced into playing that game, and the Heat have for the most part done a pretty good job forcing their hand in that regard. Westbrook almost singlehandedly made them pay though, admittedly. I think another big factor in the last 3 games has been the Heat cleaning up their own transition defense, which was a struggle for them early in the series.

El-Gonzo Jackson
06-20-2012, 03:47 PM
Agreed. The Thunder definitely have some issues to work on if they hope to make it back to their home city with a chance for the title still intact. I'm actually quite surprised at their poor rebounding, which the Heat struggled with last year against bigger or more physical teams. But even with Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison on the floor, the Heat have been outrebounding in the last 3 games, in large part thanks to Bosh (how big has he been making 'winning plays', as Van Gundy would say) and James. Despite how well the Thunder are capable of hitting the jump shots, they are better when they are not forced into playing that game, and the Heat have for the most part done a pretty good job forcing their hand in that regard. Westbrook almost singlehandedly made them pay though, admittedly. I think another big factor in the last 3 games has been the Heat cleaning up their own transition defense, which was a struggle for them early in the series.

Bosh has been big, but I dont see the intensity by OKC in wanting to get to the boards. Perkins, Ibaka, Collison dont have much of a low post game, so its up to the jump shooters. That has always been OKC weakness.

Heat are first to the rebounds and I dont know the stats, but I bet Battier is outrebounding most of the Thunder big men. While the Heat looked sluggish on the glass and in transition vs the Celtics........the Thunder look like that vs the heat.

Not a big fan of James move to south beach and needing to join Wade to win a title, but it appears that neither of them might be this far if it wasnt for the play of Bosh the past couple weeks.

micraydim
06-21-2012, 06:53 AM
the 5th Game is around the corner . ...hope James will get his first champion this year.

TRH
06-21-2012, 12:55 PM
Hope OKC wins tonight. They arguably could have swept the entire series....an argument can definitely be made that they've blown the series more than Miami has won it.
Some things that must happen tonight, and the rest of the series, to win :

-Durant has to play harder and take more shots. At times he's looked almost like he doesn't want it out there...meanwhile, Miami DOES look like they want it
-have to play zone defense...this has worked well for other teams against Miami, including Dallas last year
-Harden has to show up tonight...he's been non-existen
-hope for fair officiating tonight. As even pointed out by the commentator teams, OKC has been getting called on stuff that is borderline at best, and LeBron (as usual) is getting away with murder when attacking the rim...literally running over people and not getting called for anything
-make their free throws. They were missing like crazy while Miami seemed like they sank virtually all of theirs. This is unheard of from such a pure-shooting, money shot team like this
-and must i repeat...OKC has to come out looking like THEY WANT IT...foaming at the mouth...Westbrook looked like the only one who wanted to fight for it and the rest of the team in games 3 and 4 looked like they were loafing

TRH
06-21-2012, 10:20 PM
Disgusting. OKC throwing another game away. That had to be the worst 3rd quarter of basketball EVER in the playoffs. Period.
And once again, James is getting NOTHING called on him. He's driving to the basket just knocking people down and plowing into them and "no calls". On the other end of the floor, OKC is getting one offensive foul called on them after another. Sheez......

Steelersfan87
06-21-2012, 10:57 PM
If anything, the Thunder got away with more from the refs in this game. Sorry, but I'm just not buying all this complaining about the referees that has littered the internet throughout this series. There are a lot of fouls that are not called and non-fouls that are called in every game, just as in football. The Heat kicked Oklahoma City's ass tonight, period. No excuses. They were up 27 before taking their foot off the throttle and still won by 15. Referees made no difference in that.

Congratulations to the Miami Heat for a well-deserved championship victory that was the product of hard work, dedication, and even introspection. Congratulations to LeBron James for achieving the first step in his goal, and for joining the fraternity of players that won the league and championship MVP in the same season, and for averaging a double double (plus 7.4 RPG) on the biggest stage of his career.

tony hipchest
06-22-2012, 01:12 AM
i cant really remember an NBA finals where the refs were less noticable. and absolutely not a part of the story or outcome.

then again, i remember rooting for the chris webber led kings to beat the lakers and swearing it was fixed the entire series.

this week the refs made the typical missed calls/bad calls that happen in every single nba game. it was par for the course and pretty even throughout.

wade was penalized for diving and sliding for a ball as if he went after someones knees and chop blocked.
fisher was given a flagrant for a simple foul on lebron charging the lane because he braced for the hit and didnt allow for himself to be steamrolled and flattened. = 2 bad calls that went each teams way.

pretty bummed my old sonics didnt win but happy for james. screw cleveland browns and their fans. the browns suck, and the cavs owner is a turd.

TRH
06-22-2012, 07:14 AM
What started off looking like it might be a great series, really fizzled out quickly. Would have been much more exciting w/the series going back to Oklahoma City.......the NBA offices can't be happy it only went the 5 games. Thanks to the lackluster play by OKC in games 4 and 5, this won't be included in remembering the "best" finals.
Although Miami definitely won the series, i can't remember in recent memory a team "losing" a series as opposed to the other team winning the series as this one.
Game 1 : OKC wins
Game 2 : OKC loses the game more than Miami wins
Game 3 : OKC loses the game more than Miami wins
Game 4 : either side could make the case that OKC lost the game or that Miami won it
Game 5 : Miami wins. No question. A dreadful perfomance from OKC.

As far as the refs go, no one's changing my mind. James can do whatever he wants. He can just straight up plow people over and go right to the basket and not be called for anything.
But you know what? Thats the NBA. That all really started with Michael Jordan. Remember him taking 9 steps with the ball and that was "OK" ? And the trend will continue with whomever the next league superstar is after James is gone. Not much different than Tom Brady gets treated in the NFL. I guess thats just the way it is.

I will say this as well. As much as i like OKC....they weren't the team to beat Miami. Beyond their 3 stars, their other players and bench are substandard and it really showed when watching people like Chalmers, Miller, Cole, and Battier step up. OKC had none of that. (i'll give Fisher somewhat of a pass given his age)
Boston had a better chance of knocking them out. San Antonio would have made it a much better series, and with their defense, i think they would have won this series.

Bayz101
06-22-2012, 04:02 PM
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Steelersfan87
06-22-2012, 04:06 PM
TRH, I agree with you about your last point. As a fan of Miami, I was rooting for the Thunder to beat the Spurs. The Heat match up better. They can match their athleticism, but are also more experienced and better defenders.