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Vis
07-02-2012, 10:36 AM
APNewsBreak: Evidence of 'God particle' found


Mon Jul 2, 2012 7:37 AM EDT


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FILE - In this May 20, 2011 file photo, a physicist explains the ATLAS experiment on a board at the European Center for Nuclear Research, CERN, outside Geneva, Switzerland. The illustration shows what the long-presumed Higgs boson particle is thought to look like. Scientists at CERN plan to make an announcement on Wednesday, July 4, 2012 about their hunt for the elusive sub-atomic particle. Physicists have said previously they are increasingly confident that they are closing in on it based on hints at its existence hidden away in reams of data. (AP Photo/Anja Niedringhaus, File)



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GENEVA (http://geneva.newsvine.com) Scientists working at the world's biggest atom smasher plan to announce Wednesday that they have gathered enough evidence to show that the long-sought "God particle" answering fundamental questions about the universe almost certainly does exist.


But after decades of work and billions of dollars spent, researchers at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, or CERN, aren't quite ready to say they've "discovered" the particle.


Instead, experts familiar with the research at CERN's vast complex on the Swiss-French border say that the massive data they have obtained will essentially show the footprint of the key particle known as the Higgs boson all but proving it exists but doesn't allow them to say it has actually been glimpsed.
It appears to be a fine distinction.


Senior CERN scientists say that the two independent teams of physicists who plan to present their work at CERN's vast complex on the Swiss-French border on July 4 are about as close as you can get to a discovery without actually calling it one.


"I agree that any reasonable outside observer would say, `It looks like a discovery,'" British theoretical physicist John Ellis, a professor at King's College London who has worked at CERN since the 1970s, told The Associated Press. "We've discovered something which is consistent with being a Higgs."


CERN's atom smasher, the $10 billion Large Hadron Collider, has been creating high-energy collisions of protons to help them understand suspected phenomena such as dark matter, antimatter and ultimately the creation of the universe billions of years ago, which many theorize occurred as a massive explosion known as the Big Bang.


For particle physicists, finding the Higgs boson is a key to confirming the standard model of physics that explains what gives mass to matter and, by extension, how the universe was formed. Each of the two teams known as ATLAS and CMS involve thousands of people working independently from one another, to ensure accuracy.


Rob Roser, who leads the search for the Higgs boson at the Fermilab in Chicago, said: "Particle physicists have a very high standard for what it takes to be a discovery," and he thinks it is a hair's breadth away.


Rosen compared the results that scientists are preparing to announce Wednesday to finding the fossilized imprint of a dinosaur: "You see the footprints and the shadow of the object, but you don't actually see it."


Though an impenetrable concept to many, the Higgs boson has until now been just that a concept intended to explain a riddle: How were the subatomic particles, such as electrons, protons and neutrons, themselves formed? What gives them their mass?


The answer came in a theory first proposed by physicist Peter Higgs and others in the 1960s. It envisioned an energy field where particles interact with a key particle, the Higgs boson.


The idea is that other particles attract Higgs bosons and the more they attract, the bigger their mass will be. Some liken the effect to a ubiquitous Higgs snowfield that affects other particles traveling through it depending on whether they are wearing, metaphorically speaking, skis, snowshoes or just shoes.


Officially, CERN is presenting its evidence at a physics conference in Australia this week, but plans to accompany the announcement with meetings in Geneva. The two teams, ATLAS and CMS, then plan to publicly unveil more data on the Higgs boson at physics meetings in October and December.


Scientists with access to the new CERN data say it shows with a high degree of certainty that the Higgs boson may already have been glimpsed, and that by unofficially combining the separate results from ATLAS and CMS it can be argued that a discovery is near at hand. Ellis says at least one physicist-blogger has done just that in a credible way.


CERN spokesman James Gillies said Monday, however, that he would be "very cautious" about unofficial combinations of ATLAS and CMS data. "Combining the data from two experiments is a complex task, which is why it takes time, and why no combination will be presented on Wednesday," he told AP.


But if the calculations are indeed correct, said John Guinon, a longtime physics professor at the University of California at Davis and author of the book "The Higgs Hunter's Guide," then it is fair to say that "in some sense we have reached the mountaintop."


Sean M. Carroll, a California Institute of Technology physicist flying to Geneva for the July 4th announcement, said that if both ATLAS and CMS have independently reached these high thresholds on the Higgs boson, then "only the most curmudgeonly will not believe that they have found it."

Vis
07-02-2012, 06:00 PM
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Bayz101
07-02-2012, 06:05 PM
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Very insightful!

:sofunny:

ricardisimo
07-02-2012, 10:22 PM
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Vis
07-03-2012, 01:17 AM
My signature has moved to the avatar of moderators. Glitch? Part of the board issues? Or is it one of the vagaries of particle physics?

Bayz101
07-03-2012, 02:25 AM
My signature has moved to the avatar of moderators. Glitch? Part of the board issues? Or is it one of the vagaries of particle physics?

I'm not seeing this on my end? Is it still doing it?

ricardisimo
07-03-2012, 02:28 AM
My signature has moved to the avatar of moderators. Glitch? Part of the board issues? Or is it one of the vagaries of particle physics?
Is the cat still alive? Why are galaxies accelerating rather than decelerating apart? How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know.
:noidea:

Vis
07-03-2012, 02:33 AM
Is the cat still alive? Why are galaxies accelerating rather than decelerating apart? How many licks does it take to get to the Tootsie Roll center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know.
:noidea:
On my screen, your avatar is Franco's Italian army. Why is that?

Wallace108
07-03-2012, 06:55 AM
On my screen, your avatar is Franco's Italian army. Why is that?

Everything looks fine to me, so I think whatever is happening is happening on your end, Vis. Try emptying your cache (yes, that's my answer for everything).

Vis
07-03-2012, 07:29 AM
Everything looks fine to me, so I think whatever is happening is happening on your end, Vis. Try emptying your cache (yes, that's my answer for everything).

Fixed now. Those bosons don't last long.

ricardisimo
07-03-2012, 01:07 PM
Everything looks fine to me, so I think whatever is happening is happening on your end, Vis. Try emptying your cache (yes, that's my answer for everything).
"Try emptying your cache." I tried using your line at the bank the other day and it didn't go so well. :club:

Buddha Bus
07-03-2012, 01:41 PM
"Try emptying your cache." I tried using your line at the bank the other day and it didn't go so well. :club:

It was probably the ski mask and .357 that made it not so funny. :chuckle:

ricardisimo
07-03-2012, 01:55 PM
It was probably the ski mask and .357 that made it not so funny. :chuckle:
What of it? It's cold and scary here in LA. I leave the house prepared for anything.

Buddha Bus
07-03-2012, 04:11 PM
What of it? It's cold and scary here in LA. I leave the house prepared for anything.

Does that mean you're always wearing a condom, a safety helmet, and a seat belt?

SteelCityMom
07-03-2012, 06:45 PM
Ric is always fully protected...

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Buddha Bus
07-08-2012, 09:58 AM
Ric is always fully protected...

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_TmjGRRpyPXo/TKyIOhLWEQI/AAAAAAAAAEk/iOPDsZ7JVHk/s1600/NakedGunfullbodycondom.png

I hear tell he also has a Viper security system wired to his b-hole and a Club on his wang-dang-doodle..... just in case. :wink02:

stb_steeler
07-08-2012, 01:03 PM
My signature has moved to the avatar of moderators. Glitch? Part of the board issues? Or is it one of the vagaries of particle physics?

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MasterOfPuppets
07-08-2012, 03:39 PM
I hear tell he also has a Viper security system wired to his b-hole
to keep the gerbils from escaping ?:huh:

ricardisimo
07-09-2012, 02:37 AM
to keep the gerbils from escaping ?:huh:
Gerbils were, like, ten years ago. Moved up to guinea pigs now.

Buddha Bus
07-09-2012, 04:19 AM
Gerbils were, like, ten years ago. Moved up to guinea pigs now.

Next up? Pot belly pigs. :sofunny:

Bayz101
07-09-2012, 04:51 AM
Derailed.

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MasterOfPuppets
07-09-2012, 11:03 AM
Derailed.

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it almost had to happen...:noidea:... if anyone expected intelligent conversation on physics on a football board then they are dumber than we are. start a football thread on a nerdy science board and they'd probably derail it with lame science nonsense.

Vis
07-09-2012, 12:02 PM
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Only an hour of geeky science.

BrandonCarr39
08-01-2012, 11:27 AM
This is one of the deceptions leading up to the "strong delusion" Apostle Paul preached about in 2nd The 2. With all the propaganda about "aliens" in Hollywood movies, the MSM, and a record number of UFO sightings recently, it looks like the time could very well be drawing near.

2The 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
2The 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
2The 2:9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
2The 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
2The 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
2The 2:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (KJB)

But there IS a way out...

Joh 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

Romans 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Romans 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 3:21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Romans 3:22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Romans 3:26 To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

1Cor 15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
1Cor 15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
1Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Cor 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
1Cor 15:5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
1Cor 15:6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
1Cor 15:7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
1Cor 15:8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.
1Cor 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.
1Cor 15:10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.
1Cor 15:11 Therefore whether it were I or they, so we preach, and so ye believed.
1Cor 15:12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
1Cor 15:13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
1Cor 15:14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
1Cor 15:15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
1Cor 15:16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
1Cor 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
1Cor 15:18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
1Cor 15:19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.
1Cor 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.

Tit 3:3 For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another.
Tit 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
Tit 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
Tit 3:6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;
Tit 3:7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. (KJB)

BrandonCarr39
08-01-2012, 11:32 AM
Local Church Bible Publishers
http://www.localchurchbiblepublishers.com/

End Time Current Events 7-8-12

http://www.contendingfortruth.com/?p=4327

CERN Particle Collider Update – Higgs Boson “God Particle” Cult Exposed

Table of Contents:
CERN Particle Collider Update–New particle fits description of the Higgs Boson, scientists say
Why is the ‘God particle’ a big deal? Because it will try disprove all religion!!
Contrast this new Higgs Boson Cult Religion to what the Word of God says-Bible Study

Audio: http://www.contendingfortruth.com/wp-content/uploads/320-7-8-12-DS300011-C.mp3

Vis
08-01-2012, 11:38 AM
Remember the Pope and Galileo lesson? No?