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Vis
07-08-2012, 09:35 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/post/_/id/50577/line-can-improve-steelers-in-red-zone

The newly rebuilt Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line should not only cut down on the hits on quarterback Ben Roethlisberger. It should increase Pittsburgh's red-zone efficiency.

One reason why the Steelers underachieved inside the 20-yard line -- they ranked 18th in that area in 2011 -- was the pressure on Roethlisberger. Since the start of the 2008 season, Roethlisberger has been sacked 22 times in the red zone, according to ESPN Stats & Information's Hank Gargiulo. That ranks as the second-most in the NFL behind Green Bay's Aaron Rodgers, who's been sacked 28 times.

That means Roethlisberger has been sacked on 8.8 percent of his dropbacks inside the 20, which also ranks second among quarterbacks with at least 100 dropbacks. The only quarterback that has a higher percentage is the Ravens' Joe Flacco (9.1 percent).

While Roethlisberger has a tendency to boost his sacks total by trying to extend plays, the Steelers are looking to improve their protection this year. Pittsburgh's offensive line makeover includes starting two rookies (right guard David DeCastro and left tackle Mike Adams) and moving Willie Colon to left guard.

Increasing the Steelers' success in the red zone will lead to more points under new offensive coordinator Todd Haley. There was no excuse for the Steelers to rank 12th in scoring in 2009 and 2010. And there was really no excuse for them to rank 21st this past season.

With a top-notch quarterback in Roethlisberger and two playmaking wide receivers in Mike Wallace and Antonio Brown, Pittsburgh is too talented offensively to average only 20.3 points per game in 2011 and score more than 30 points three times. A big part of the problem was the inability to score in the red zone. Last season, the Steelers recorded 27 touchdowns on 53 red-zone possessions, a 50.9 percent success rate. The Jets surprisingly ranked first at 65.5 percent.

Another area of emphasis in the red zone is improving Roethlisberger's accuracy inside the 20. He only completed half of his passes inside the red zone this past season compared to 64.7 percent outside the red zone -- a drop of 14.7 percentage points. The hope is better protection will lead to better throws.

Bayz101
07-08-2012, 09:39 AM
Good read, and welcome back! Hopefully we'll stay online for good now.

stb_steeler
07-08-2012, 01:59 PM
Having trouble getting on (still)....:doh:

MasterOfPuppets
07-08-2012, 04:42 PM
i hope i'm not settin myself up for disappointment , but i'm expecting a huge improvement from the front 5 ...:tt03:

it would serve haley well to watch a lot of the last few years of arians game film , and do the opposite.

mesaSteeler
07-09-2012, 12:10 AM
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a69c91/article/pittsburgh-steelers-could-use-redzone-makeover-in-12
Pittsburgh Steelers could use red-zone makeover in '12
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By Dan Hanzus
Writer
Published: July 8, 2012 at 08:28 p.m.
Updated: July 8, 2012 at 11:36 p.m.

The Pittsburgh Steelers have great tools on offense. It's the execution that wasn't always stellar in 2011.

In an NFL season defined by explosive offensive production, the Steelers were merely adequate, averaging 20.3 points per game (21st in the league) and scoring more than 30 points on just three occasions.

This can be explained, at least partly, by struggles in the red zone. As Jamison Hensley at ESPN's AFC North blog points out, Pittsburgh ranked 18th in red-zone efficiency last season. The Steelers recorded 27 touchdowns on 53 red-zone possessions, a 50.9 percent success rate. With talented players like Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace and Rashard Mendenhall, that wasn't nearly good enough.
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Improved play from Roethlisberger inside the 20 would help. Last season, the quarterback's completion percentage dropped nearly 15 percentage points once he got inside the 20 (64.7 to 50). Roethlisberger was sacked 22 times in the red zone, second-most in the NFL. The Steelers are counting on a revamped offensive line to help matters in this department.

It's worth noting some oddities in the above statistics as well. The Jets -- 8-8 last season and nobody's example of an offense to envy -- led the league in red-zone efficiency at 65.5 percent. And the man who took the most red-zone sacks in 2011? Aaron Rodgers, who might have produced the greatest season ever for a quarterback.

What does it mean? We're not entirely sure, but perhaps new Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley has a theory of his own. We know he won't be afraid to share it.

MasterOfPuppets
07-09-2012, 01:25 AM
Roethlisberger was sacked 22 times in the red zone,
thats about half of his sacks for the year. defenses were just bringing the all out blitzes because they new the steelers had no running game. run the ball on 1st and 2nd and put yourself in 3rd and 8 with a short field for defenders to cover plus a turn style oline often results in disaster...:doh:

Hawaii 5-0
07-09-2012, 01:52 AM
Pittsburgh Steelers could use red-zone makeover in '12

By Dan Hanzus
Published: July 8, 2012

The Pittsburgh Steelers have great tools on offense. It's the execution that wasn't always stellar in 2011.

In an NFL season defined by explosive offensive production, the Steelers were merely adequate, averaging 20.3 points per game (21st in the league) and scoring more than 30 points on just three occasions.

This can be explained, at least partly, by struggles in the red zone. As Jamison Hensley at ESPN's AFC North blog points out, Pittsburgh ranked 18th in red-zone efficiency last season. The Steelers recorded 27 touchdowns on 53 red-zone possessions, a 50.9 percent success rate. With talented players like Ben Roethlisberger, Antonio Brown, Mike Wallace and Rashard Mendenhall, that wasn't nearly good enough.

Improved play from Roethlisberger inside the 20 would help. Last season, the quarterback's completion percentage dropped nearly 15 percentage points once he got inside the 20 (64.7 to 50). Roethlisberger was sacked 22 times in the red zone, second-most in the NFL. The Steelers are counting on a revamped offensive line to help matters in this department.

It's worth noting some oddities in the above statistics as well. The Jets -- 8-8 last season and nobody's example of an offense to envy -- led the league in red-zone efficiency at 65.5 percent. And the man who took the most red-zone sacks in 2011? Aaron Rodgers, who might have produced the greatest season ever for a quarterback.

What does it mean? We're not entirely sure, but perhaps new Steelers offensive coordinator Todd Haley has a theory of his own. We know he won't be afraid to share it.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a69c91/article/pittsburgh-steelers-could-use-redzone-makeover-in-12

Hawaii 5-0
07-09-2012, 09:47 PM
Three and out: Roethlisberger has red-zone woes

by NFL.com Staff
July 9, 2012

Scoring troubles: The Pittsburgh Steelers offense struggled in 2011, finishing 21st overall in scoring with an average of 20.3 points per game. Part of the issue was the play of quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, as his completion percentage fell nearly 15 percentage points in the red zone. Although the team addressed offensive line issues during the offseason, receiver Mike Wallace is still in the midst of a contract dispute, and running back Rashard Mendenhall might start the season on the physically unable to perform list list. Throw in the quarterback’s relationship (or lack thereof) with OC Todd Haley, and more questions than answers remain if the offense can improve this season. After Roethlisberger finished 13th among all fantasy QBs and was plagued by turnovers, fantasy owners should take a more cautious approach. Though the quarterback is expected to see plenty of passing opportunities this year, his status remains as a borderline No. 1 or 2 quarterback.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/07/09/thre...zone-woe-zone/

Hawaii 5-0
07-10-2012, 03:06 AM
WILL STEELERS OUTPERFORM RAVENS IN RED ZONE?

July 9, 2012

Here’s something similar with the Ravens and the Steelers on offense: Their quarterbacks get sacked too much in the red zone.

As pointed out by Jamison Hensley at ESPN.com, Joe Flacco and Ben Roethlisberger were first and second in highest percentage of red-zone pass plays that resulted in sacks in 2011. Flacco was nailed 9.1 percent of the time and Roethlisberger 8.8 percent.

(Note this statistical oddity: You certainly wouldn’t consider the Packers’ Aaron Rodgers an offensive underachiever in any way, but in the past three seasons, he has been sacked in the red zone more times, 28, than any other NFL quarterback.)

Last season, the Ravens and Steelers also had essentially the same percentage of scoring touchdowns in the red zone (50 and 51 percent, ranking 18th and 17th in the league, respectively).

Other than trying for better execution, we haven’t heard about major changes the Ravens are making to improve their percentage. The Steelers, on the other hand, not only are putting in a new offense, but they’re also changing over their offensive line — inserting two rookies and moving one veteran.

So one measure of whether the offensive switch in Pittsburgh is having a real effect: Keep an eye on how the Steelers are performing inside the opponents’ 20.

http://www.csnwashington.com/07/09/12/Will-Steelers-outperform-Ravens-in-red-z/landing.html?blockID=737282&feedID=6703

67 calsteel
07-12-2012, 11:46 AM
Add Haley to the list of things that will improve redzone.A OC that can can a NFL game and make adjustments during the game.

Another idea multiple runners in backfield.No fullback just two players who can run the ball.

steelfury02
07-12-2012, 04:21 PM
outside of Ben having a season or career ending injury, the offense is only going to improve

GMU Steeler
07-12-2012, 08:32 PM
This is also good for the defense too when you think about it. Longer and more sustained drives that result in TD's mean less pressure on the defense to hold leads so we may see a return to what made Cowher's teams so great at closing out games. The addition of Haley as OC may prove to be one of the best moves this season which is saying something considering the drafting of DeCastro and the otehrs.

Millers the sh!t
07-13-2012, 01:03 AM
50.9 percent in the Redzone.... I actually thought we were way worst. I would have guessed 33-35%

I haven't been more pumped for a season since 2009. That was a let down though... I hope this year we wake the world again. If we get a convincing offense we'll be back to the bowl. Keep those fingers crossed.

ben2hines=6
07-13-2012, 07:23 PM
this whole year worries me and its because of the o line. everybody thinks that its automatically gonna be worlds better but hell, were moving an injury prone tackle to guard and now we have to rookies starting. i mean call me crazy but theres no reason to think that this oline is gonna be a top notch line. give it a year or two then hell yea lets see these guys crack heads but hell, unprooven linemen everywhere and pouncy HAS to stay healthy this year

Steelersfan87
07-13-2012, 11:42 PM
I wouldn't call Colon injury prone. Before his two fluke injuries he was regarded as an iron man, and there's no reason to assume that he'll get injured significantly again. Frankly, I think the "injury prone" label gets thrown around a little too liberally. As far as rookies starting, the Steelers have had success with that for the past two years, and frankly, DeCastro has a higher pedigree than Pouncey or Gilbert. He's about as sure a thing as there is. And as far as Adams goes, it's worth keeping in mind his love of the Pittsburgh Steelers, as a fan, growing up. You think he could live with himself being the reason the quarterback of his beloved team misses a playoff game?

ricardisimo
07-13-2012, 11:48 PM
Adams may be ready this season... or not. It's not that big a deal, if you ask me. Colon moving to left guard from right tackle after two years laid up is the biggest question mark of the season. It should be fine, he's a pro. Still, it's a question mark.

TheVet
07-14-2012, 03:34 AM
Suppose that Colon is injured for the season, DeCastro is a complete bust, and Adams simply isn't ready. Then we'll still be just as good as last year. So why are you worried about the o-line? We've had "unproven linemen everywhere" for five years now.

ricardisimo
07-15-2012, 03:52 AM
Suppose that Colon is injured for the season, DeCastro is a complete bust, and Adams simply isn't ready. Then we'll still be just as good as last year. So why are you worried about the o-line? We've had "unproven linemen everywhere" for five years now.
No. Starks almost certainly won't be available this season, which means we fall apart all across the line in your scenario. Fortunately none of those things are likely to happen.

TheVet
07-16-2012, 10:38 PM
I agree that none of those things are going to happen. My point is that there's no reason to worry. I think it's obvious that the O-line will be a greatly improved unit.

Max Starks seems like a non-issue, since that level of talent is readily available around the NFL.