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MACH1
07-17-2012, 01:32 PM
President Barack Obama addressed supporters in Roanoke, Virginia on Friday afternoon and took a shot at the business community. President Obama dismissed any credit business owners give themselves for their success
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

What a fu***** clueless idiot.

This come from a guy who has never had a real job his entire life.

Atlanta Dan
07-17-2012, 09:59 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2012/jul/15/picketvideo-obama-if-youve-got-business-you-didnt-/

What a fu***** clueless idiot.

This come from a guy who has never had a real job his entire life.

Is that you Mr. Sununu?:chuckle:
Romney Surrogate Calls Obama Un-American Stoner

He has no idea how the American system functions, and we shouldn't be surprised about that, because he spent his early years in Hawaii smoking something, spent the next set of years in Indonesia, another set of years in Indonesia, and, frankly, when he came to the U.S., he worked as a community organizer, which is a socialized structure, and then got into politics in Chicago....I wish this president would learn how to be an American.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/romney-surrogate-calls-obama-un-american-stoner.html

MACH1
07-18-2012, 09:08 PM
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Steelboy84
07-18-2012, 11:50 PM
Wed Jul 18, 2012 at 01:06 PM PDT

Mitt Romney says entrepreneurs need government to start businesses



Imagine if President Obama said this:

There are a lot of people in government who help us and allow us to have an economy that works and allow entrepreneurs and business leaders of various kinds to start businesses and create jobs. We all recognize that. That's an important thing.

Or if he said this:

I know that you recognize that a lot of people help you in a business. Perhaps the banks, the investors. There's no question your mom and dad. Your school teachers. The people that provide roads, the fire, and the police. A lot of people help.

Republicans would go nuts, right? Fox would go on a 72 hour nonstop bender on the evils of Obama's socialism. Rupert Murdoch would be tweeting in fear from the safety of Dick Cheney's bunker.

But those aren't President Obama's words. They're Mitt Romney's. And they aren't from a few weeks ago or a few months ago or a few years ago. He said them today, and he said them while falsely accusing the president of having said that "if you've got a business, you didn't build that." President Obama said no such thing. His actual words:

Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So "that" was "roads and bridges." Not your business. The larger point he was making, in his own words:

When we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.

Things like investing in roads and bridges, creating fire departments and police forces, and having public schools. In other words, the exact same things that Mitt Romney talked about today. But don't expect President Obama to demand an apology from Romney for stealing his words. After all, there's still that whole Obamneycare thing they need to work out.

http://digg.com/newsbar/Politics/mitt_romney_says_entrepreneurs_need_government_to_ start_businesses


Of course we all knew that's what he was saying, but it's a lot easier to post a headline, twist his words, and use childish profanity in order to make a false point about something the President didn't even say. But when you have pent up frustration about the guy in the WH not having an R in front of his name (cause those guys can't do any wrong, right ), that's all you have to resort to.

Sorry Bush boy, but your phony outrage doesn't hold water here. Of course, you already knew what Obama was saying, but using profanity helps everyone to believe you're this conservative internet "tough guy". :couch:


"This come from a guy who has never had a real job his entire life."


Oh, I see. So being a lawyer, a Senator, then President don't count as "real" jobs. So what is a real job? Oh wait, don't answer that.


Obama wasn't on the farm with his maw and paw tending to dem cattle and chickens drinking buur with da boys with Kenney Chesey in the background. Yea, anyone who doesn't do this hasn't had a "real" job. (My goodness, let's hope he didn't go to college, wouldn't want him to think the world was round or anything).


Now go back to FOX, re-analyze your talking points, and try again. Oh yes, and this time, tell us how your precious Bush was a fiscal conservative and how he did nothing wrong. :coffee:

Bayz101
07-19-2012, 04:23 AM
Is it NOT possible for you to engage in debate without flame baiting and poking the bear with a GIANT ****ING STICK. Seriously, grow the hell up. I've yet to see you even ATTEMPT to carry out a respectful debate or discussion, no matter the subject. I'm feeling awfully generous, and you have the looks of a guy ready to be sent on a vacation, if you get my drift.

steelax04
07-19-2012, 01:12 PM
So minus the extraneous commentary, this is what Obama's point was, as posted "When we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

Even I got that from the OP linked article. I think it's really reaching for the whole "you didn't build your own business, someone else built it" line of thinking.

Steelboy84
07-19-2012, 03:21 PM
So minus the extraneous commentary, this is what Obama's point was, as posted "When we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together."

Even I got that from the OP linked article. I think it's really reaching for the whole "you didn't build your own business, someone else built it" line of thinking.



Exactly. He even used the word individual in his statements.

MACH1
07-19-2012, 04:17 PM
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Steelboy84
07-20-2012, 08:07 AM
Lol, this is comical at this point. Your OP has already been debunked, but instead you'd rather keep purporting something that he didn't say. And it's clear to anyone what he said. Not only did it say it, he re-emphasized it. Continuous false claims about that speech doesn't make it true. Everyone but you sees exactly what he was saying. But if that makes you feel better...................................:coffee:

MACH1
07-20-2012, 03:31 PM
Just a thought.

Since I built my own home, at least I thought I did, and it happens to be by a road does that mean I now live in government housing?


Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.
And who was that somebody?

When was the last time you seen a fed laying asphalt? You say the government paid for the roads and infrastructure. Where did that money come from? It came from business owners and people who work for a living who pay taxes. Not the free loaders that live in mamas basement and sponge of the rest of us tax paying people.
Without the business's that we didn't build there would be no employees and nobody paying taxes. Without those there would be no government money for your free handouts.

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Atlanta Dan
07-20-2012, 07:42 PM
Just a thought.

Since I built my own home, at least I thought I did, and it happens to be by a road does that mean I now live in government housing?

Without those there would be no government money for your free handouts.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/23583008.jpg

Did you take out a mortgage on your home?

If so, do you deduct the interest on your taxes? (Government "handout" that is subsidizing your home ownership compared to renters)

If you took out a mortgage, was it sold to Fannie, Freddie or GinnieMae (or is it FHA insured) - government is subsidizing your interest rate

Just saying government "handouts" are more than social transfer payments to the indigent:wink02:

Wallace108
07-24-2012, 04:05 PM
If you have a Gold medal, you didn't win that.


"You Olympians, however, know you didn't get here solely on your own power. For most of you, loving parents, sisters or brothers, encouraged your hopes, coaches guided, communities built venues in order to organize competitions. All Olympians stand on the shoulders of those who lifted them. Weíve already cheered the Olympians, letís also cheer the parents, coaches, and communities. All right!"

-Mitt Romney
opening ceremony of the 2002 Winter Olympics

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Atlanta Dan
07-24-2012, 04:22 PM
Why does Obama hate lemonade stands? The Fair and Balanced Fox & Friends wants to know - unfortunately the kids fail to stay on message and state they did not build their business by themselves :chuckle:

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Here’s how Brian Kilmeade of “Fox & Friends” tried to elide the experience of Cool Blast Lemonade with the controversial remarks that President Obama made on July 13 about the relationship between business and government.

KILMEADE: Clara, how do you feel about the president saying that you needed help to start this business? And just speak from within . . .(Clara is 7)

CLARA: I would say that’s rude because we worked very hard to build this business, but we did have help.

KILMEADE: And your help came from?

CLARA: Our help came from our investors — our dad and stepmom, along with other friends and family.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wemple/post/has-fox-and-friends-gone-rogue-again/2012/07/24/gJQAEv0g6W_blog.html

MACH1
07-27-2012, 12:23 AM
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Atlanta Dan
08-02-2012, 11:30 PM
Known communist radical David Brooks has some thoughts

Dear Mr. Opinion Guy,

Over the past few years, I’ve built a successful business. I’ve worked hard, and I’m proud of what I’ve done. But now President Obama tells me that social and political forces helped build that. Mitt Romney went to Israel and said cultural forces explain the differences in the wealth of nations. I’m confused. How much of my success is me, and how much of my success comes from forces outside of me?...

Great companies, charities and nations were built by groups of individuals who each vastly overestimated their own autonomy. As an ambitious executive, it’s important that you believe that you will deserve credit for everything you achieve. As a human being, it’s important for you to know that’s nonsense.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/opinion/brooks-the-credit-illusion.html?hp

Vincent
08-03-2012, 11:21 PM
As an ambitious executive, itís important that you believe that you will deserve credit for everything you achieve. As a human being, itís important for you to know thatís nonsense.

Truth.