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Grav
08-02-2012, 05:46 PM
how has this guy done? heard some reports that Woods was giving him a pretty tough time in training. Any news on the guys progress?

Atlanta Dan
08-02-2012, 05:55 PM
how has this guy done? heard some reports that Woods was giving him a pretty tough time in training. Any news on the guys progress?

Maurkice Pouncey had these thoughts, confirming that DeCastro is a man of few words and that the academic demands upon SEC football players are not particularly high

Steelers offensive guard and No. 1 draft pick David DeCastro is developing a reputation as an intense man-of-few words.

"He looks like a military dude, man. He's too serious some of the time, but he's a great guy to have around the field," center Maurkice Pouncey said.

"Most of the time, he doesn't say anything at all. They call him Mr. Personality," Pouncey laughed.

So how to loosen him up?

"Just try to joke with him ... he went to that smart school [Stanford] -- it was probably school, school, school and football.

"He probably didn't learn how to have a good time in college -- he didn't take bowling."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/antonio-brown-praises-todd-haleys-coaching-style-and-personality-647249/?p=0

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-02-2012, 06:00 PM
1 on 1 pass drills always favor the D lineman if that is what Woods was getting him on. O lineman is the nail in that drill and not the hammer.

Also, Al Woods played on that LSU line with Tyson Jackson, Ricky Jean Francois, Marlon Favorite, etc. He's a guy with a couple NFL camps under his belt that played in the SEC. DeCastro is going to be fine, its just going to take some adjustment.

StainlessStill
08-02-2012, 06:03 PM
I've read and heard over and over how this guy is a stone-faced assassin with cold and piercing stare. That said, I've read atleast a couple times during the duration of camp of him losing one on one battles in drills to seemingly level 3 and 4 tier talent. He needs to pick it up and earn his due. I'm confident he'll get use to the speed, but it needs to come very fast.

teegre
08-02-2012, 06:24 PM
Pouncey has stated that DD is further along (in his development) than he was as a rookie.  

Troy was considered a BUST for his first full season. It hasn't even been one PRE-season game. I'm not worried.

FrancoLambert
08-02-2012, 06:33 PM
Everyone, take a deep breath and relax, DD will be fine come September.

Riddle_Of_Steel
08-02-2012, 07:27 PM
By most of the reports I have heard (from Ken Laird), DeCastro is having some struggles.

Adams has looked descent. DeCastro has been pushed around. Colon has been A BEAST.

Another thing I am noticing in all the camp updates (going by Steelers Addicts) that is kinda troubling, is that either our run defense needs work, or this Chris Rainey kid is going to be a lightning rod this year for us. Evrytime I read his name in one of these updates, it is Chris Rainey "for a long gain".

Steelers have some kinks to work out, but am sure they will be ready to bust some heads come week 1.

GoFor7
08-02-2012, 07:37 PM
Maybe DeCastro isn't giving full effort because he was a Seahawks fan growing up and is still sore about Super Bowl XL. :chuckle:

steelbelieve
08-02-2012, 08:19 PM
Pouncey has stated that DD is further along (in his development) than he was as a rookie.  

Troy was considered a BUST for his first full season. It hasn't even been one PRE-season game. I'm not worried.

I think the Troy comparison is noteworthy. DD is an introspective type of guy who's going to want to understand everything--like Troy, Then, once it's ALL sunk in, look out.

teegre
08-02-2012, 08:59 PM
I think the Troy comparison is noteworthy. DD is an introspective type of guy who's going to want to understand everything--like Troy, Then, once it's ALL sunk in, look out.

Exactly. At times, Troy looked lost. And, I remember, during his rookie year, they asked Troy why he wasn't "Troy" yet.  To which he replied, "I don't know the plays well enough yet to play how I expect to play."  

Then... he exploded in his second year.  

Yet... Steelers fans were calling for Cower's head, for having "drafted slow SS."  

I watched Troy for three years, and never thought that the Steelers had a shot at drafting him.  He fell (out of the top 10); the Steelers traded up; and, the rest is history.  

Similarly, I watched DD for two years, and never thought that the Steelers had a shot at drafting him.  He fell to 24;  the Steelers traded up; and, the rest shall be history. 

EbonySteel86
08-02-2012, 09:02 PM
I think the Troy comparison is noteworthy. DD is an introspective type of guy who's going to want to understand everything--like Troy, Then, once it's ALL sunk in, look out.

Agree! He'll be fine.

tony hipchest
08-02-2012, 09:28 PM
here was my take on concerns that decastro was getting "beat up" by woods.-

al woods is a professional.

decastro is used to beating up amateur slapdick scrubs (many of whom will never sniff the NFL).

he's 2 weeks into this gig.... its all part of the process.
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tony hipchest
08-02-2012, 10:52 PM
Ken Laird‏@Ken_Laird

Today's unknown DLman to beat Decastro soundly in 1 on 1: Mike Blanc

he is gonna be fine and is hyperscrutinized as the #1 pick.

austinfrench76
08-02-2012, 11:01 PM
On twitter Ed Bouchette also mentioned it was all just "typical rookie stuff". Guy will be fine.

Atlanta Dan
08-02-2012, 11:06 PM
Ken Laird‏@Ken_Laird

Today's unknown DLman to beat Decastro soundly in 1 on 1: Mike Blanc

DeCastro sucks!

Steelers need to start checking the psychiatric wards in order to determine the whereabouts of Kemo and bring Kemo back to camp to save the season

tony hipchest
08-02-2012, 11:14 PM
DeCastro sucks!

Steelers need to start checking the psychiatric wards in order to determine the whereabouts of Kemo and bring Kemo back to camp to save the season

:chuckle:

3.....2.....1....

:shout:- PANIC!!!

tony hipchest
08-02-2012, 11:48 PM
Steelers rookie report: David DeCastro, Mike Adams yet to distinguish themselves

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/19714939/steelers-rookie-report-david-decastro-mike-adams-yet-to-distinguish-themselves


Few expected any the Steelers rookies to be designated as starters nine days into training camp. That's just not the organization's way.

Even if a first-year player wows coaches and distinguishes himself immediately upon stepping onto an NFL practice field (see Pouncey, Maurkice, 2010), Pittsburgh coach Mike Tomlin likes to make him earn his playing time or status as a first-teamer.

This season, first- and second-round picks David DeCastro and Mike Adams are no different. But although each was expected to compete for a starting job (DeCastro at right guard, Adams at left tackle), neither has shown enough to seize one during camp's early going.

DeCastro, in particular, was (and still is) viewed as a somewhat heavy favorite to be in Pittsburgh's starting lineup Sept. 9 at Denver. But some mediocre workouts -- he's been beaten in blocking drills, including several times by third-year pro Al Woods -- haven't impressed.

"A lot of things I want to work on," DeCastro said. "It's a little different game with the athletes up here. It's the NFL, so I've got to keep working."

Pouncey, Pittsburgh's starting center, joked that teammates call DeCastro "Mr. Personality" for his quiet, serious demeanor. Although Adams seems a little more lighthearted, he also is not overly outgoing.

Adams was projected to be a first-round pick until he failed a drug test at the NFL Combine. After he was drafted, the Steelers moved Willie Colon from tackle to guard, seemingly clearing the way for Adams.

But the team re-signed veteran Max Starks just before camp started. The organization waited so long partially because it wanted to see how Starks' rehabilitation was going from a January torn ACL. But the Steelers' brass also likely wanted insurance in case Adams wasn't ready.

Starks remains on the PUP list, but Adams has been running behind journeyman veteran Trai Essex at left tackle -- though Adams, like DeCastro, has been rotated in with the first team at times.

"Having a guy like Max is priceless to my development. Max is a guy who's been doing it for a long time at a high level, so just to have him here to help me is something I'm really grateful for."

Follow Steelers reporter Chris Adamski on Twitter @CBSSportsNFLPIT and @BuzzsawPGH.

Hawaii 5-0
08-02-2012, 11:57 PM
DeCastro is obviously a complete bust...:wink02:

Galax Steeler
08-03-2012, 04:32 AM
Similarly, I watched DD for two years, and never thought that the Steelers had a shot at drafting him.  He fell to 24;  the Steelers traded up; and, the rest shall be history. 

We didn't trade up to get DeCastro this year.:wink02:

steelfury02
08-03-2012, 08:18 AM
you know what, if these two can't get up to 4-7 year veteran speed by day 1, then I say let em' walk . . .

BGSU A Dub
08-03-2012, 08:28 AM
We are going to have some growing pains with the OL this year. The speed of the game, the schemes, and the size of the defenders are going to throw all these guys for a loop. That's okay, as long as we see them improving each week.

teegre
08-03-2012, 09:10 AM
We didn't trade up to get DeCastro this year.:wink02:

Whoops. The pitfalls of cutting & pasting a paragraph, and altering one or two words (I should have changed that to say "The Steelers drafted him") Regardless, the point (many similarities) is evident.

LVSteelersfan
08-03-2012, 10:23 AM
Gosh darn FO messed up yet again. Another first and second round bust. ; )

tony hipchest
08-03-2012, 10:35 AM
jim wexell addresses the tweet induced panic rather nicely-

Where was the tweet from the rep prior when DeCastro stoned Blanc. I mean Blanc couldn't move anything, arms or legs, he was wrapped up so tight. So he got off the ball and ran past him the second time. No big deal.

I looked up at the one snap the second team had in the two-minute drill. DeCastro stoned McLendon, who's been killing Pouncey in one-on-ones all camp. Therefore, DeCastro is better than Pouncey?

No. It's just how one-on-ones go sometimes. And often the coaches are having the player work on technique and they don't care who wins for the radio guys who have their noses buried in twitter.

If DeCastro was looking as unathletic as Urbik looked in one-on-ones his rookie yeaer, then you should worry. But he's an athlete. He could use a few more pounds but he'll be fine. I'm not worried in the least.


http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=68&f=1897&t=9196560&p=2

Vis
08-03-2012, 11:49 AM
Wexell's wrong, he's a bust. I'd trade him to Jax for a 5th round pick.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-03-2012, 12:27 PM
Anybody actually been to camp and seen the 1 on 1 drills?? If its pass rush, then the O lineman is always at a huge disadvantage. If its run blocking, then I would be more concerned as DeCastro gets to be the hammer and not the nail.

The kid is going to be fine. When other guys in the Pac 12 say he was the toughest guy they played against, its similar to when Gerald McCoy said "Pouncey was one of the toughest guys I played against in college". Go push panic button elsewhere.

teegre
08-03-2012, 12:29 PM
No. It's just how one-on-ones go sometimes. And often the coaches are having the player work on technique and they don't care who wins for the radio guys who have their noses buried in twitter.

I was going to mention that.  Sometimes the coaches have players practice certain (new) techniques, in order to improve their overall ability.  

I remember when Reggie White was being taught the spin move (he was already adept at bull rush & swim move).  This third technique took him a while... and he looked a little confused.  But when it clicked, he became unstoppable.  

Oh... Malcolm Johnson always looked way better than Hines Ward in drills.  Drills are drills.  Game play is what really matters.  And, I'm willing to bet that when actual plays are run, DD looks good.  

Fire Arians
08-03-2012, 12:40 PM
cut his ass!

GoFor7
08-03-2012, 12:47 PM
PANIC PANIC PANIC! TURMOIL TURMOIL TURMOIL!

We're screwed! We're done! Trade all our good players to St. Louis for draft picks! Fire the entire coaching staff and Colbert! Move the team to LA! A rookie having some trouble in the first week of training camp means our season is now ruined! All our hopes and dreams were in this kid and he's now officially a bust!


Maybe I watch too much ESPN....

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 12:48 PM
I say we trade his ass for Kraig Urbik. He seems to have come on with Buffalo.


:noidea:

Fire Arians
08-03-2012, 12:55 PM
I say we trade his ass for Kraig Urbik. He seems to have come on with Buffalo.


:noidea:

no i say we cut him and then re-sign jonathan "rollerskates" scott and cut adams too! then sign mike wallace to a 90 million dollar contract! go steelers!

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 12:58 PM
Rumor has it that Rod Woodson can still go. Maybe sign him back for hometown discount? Afterall, we are "thin" at cornerback. Plus, Ike Taylor SUCKS because of his performance against Denver. He never did ANYTHING good for the Steelers. EVER. He STINKS.

http://forums.steelersfever.com/images/smilies/noidea.gif

Fire Arians
08-03-2012, 01:01 PM
good idea man, i think to afford mike's salary we should also cut ben roethlisberger to free cap space.

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 01:06 PM
Holds onto the ball too long. Ben should have been ousted ever since his putrid performance in XL. We all know the defense carried him that year, even though he had a spectacular run in that '05 playoffs. I mean, we can get by with Charlie Batch as our #1.


:noidea:

Vis
08-03-2012, 01:09 PM
Holds onto the ball too long. Ben should have been ousted ever since his putrid performance in XL. We all know the defense carried him that year, even though he had a spectacular run in that '05 playoffs. I mean, we can get by with Charlie Batch as our #1.


:noidea:

And The Tackle was lucky

GoFor7
08-03-2012, 01:15 PM
good idea man, i think to afford mike's salary we should also cut ben roethlisberger to free cap space.

Agreed! Back to 1990's football! Three yards and a cloud of dust! Get a touchdown in the first quarter and try to hold that lead for the rest of the game! THAT'S REAL STILLER FOOTBALL AIN'T IT!? :tt03: Bring back Greg Lloyd to cuss out the media again! Try to win every game by a score of 7-3! Bring back the chin while we're at it!

http://www.almightyphilly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bill-cowher12.jpg

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 01:16 PM
And The Tackle was lucky

Yep. Ben should have been benched. He actually didn't do what he was SUPPOSED to do and go through with his fake. Instead, he turned and wanted to see the touchdown and that's when he had a good view on the ball popping out. Ben=always slackin' off with fundamentals!


:noidea:

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 01:20 PM
Agreed! Back to 1990's football! Three yards and a cloud of dust! Get a touchdown in the first quarter and try to hold that lead for the rest of the game! THAT'S REAL STILLER FOOTBALL AIN'T IT!? :tt03: Bring back Greg Lloyd to cuss out the media again! Try to win every game by a score of 7-3! Bring back the chin while we're at it!

http://www.almightyphilly.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/bill-cowher12.jpg

LOVED IT. Turtle ball was the way to go. Why put your foot on the gas pedal when you can protect a 3 point lead by the skin of your teeth, play for FG's, and give your passionate fanbase heart attacks every single week? Worked to perfection.


:noidea:

teegre
08-03-2012, 01:24 PM
It worked... until the play-offs. :(

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 01:32 PM
Playoffs are a different speed. We were stuck in regular season-neutral while suckass teams like the '94 Chargers and '01 Patriots passed us up. Now I'm pissed. **NEEDS TO WALK AWAY.**


:noidea:

GoFor7
08-03-2012, 01:38 PM
Playoffs are a different speed. We were stuck in regular season-neutral while suckass teams like the '94 Chargers and '01 Patriots passed us up. Now I'm pissed. **NEEDS TO WALK AWAY.**


:noidea:

But that's why Greg Lloyd would be back. He could just cuss to the media about it.

"I'm sick of these f*ckin' quaterbacks throwin' all the damn time with scores of 75-2! Go out there and f*ckin' hit someone! And Joe Namath can still kiss my ass!"

Hawaii 5-0
08-03-2012, 01:47 PM
But that's why Greg Lloyd would be back. He could just cuss to the media about it.

"I'm sick of these f*ckin' quaterbacks throwin' all the damn time with scores of 75-2! Go out there and f*ckin' hit someone! And Joe Namath can still kiss my ass!"


ya gotta love Greg Lloyd...

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/adam1784/YouTube-GregLloydTributeWATCHINHIGHQUALITY_1283189364063.p ng

BGSU A Dub
08-03-2012, 01:56 PM
Maybe I watch too much ESPN....

So is the image of a shirtless Tebow burned into your memory? :chuckle:

StainlessStill
08-03-2012, 01:57 PM
ya gotta love Greg Lloyd...

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h159/adam1784/YouTube-GregLloydTributeWATCHINHIGHQUALITY_1283189364063.p ng

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvxLbYrX4Pg

"This thing belongs here, belongs to Mr.Rooney and lets see if we can bring this damn thing back next year, along with the f*ckin Super Bowl.."

One of my favorite moments and I was only 7 years old, lmao.:helmet:

GoFor7
08-03-2012, 02:04 PM
So is the image of a shirtless Tebow burned into your memory? :chuckle:

With that and all of the Raven knob slurping, I'm not sure if I'm watching a sports channel or a gay porno now...

teegre
08-03-2012, 02:14 PM
Playoffs are a different speed. We were stuck in regular season-neutral while suckass teams like the '94 Chargers and '01 Patriots passed us up. Now I'm pissed. **NEEDS TO WALK AWAY.**


:noidea:

94:  I can still see Eric Green laying there... not trying to get up & get into the end-zone.  And, living in SD, the day after was even more difficult to stomach (parades, fair-weather fans, highlights ad nauseum).  Speaking of highlights, I STILL see highlights of Dennis Gibson knocking down that pass.  Horror defined.  

01:  I remember going to the gym that morning, thinking: only a special teams snafu could stop that team. Alas, I was correct.  At the time, it was not as painful as 94... but, after 2004, the Taperiots have surpassed the Ravens as my most hated team.  

Steel95
08-03-2012, 05:43 PM
By most of the reports I have heard (from Ken Laird), DeCastro is having some struggles.

Adams has looked descent. DeCastro has been pushed around. Colon has been A BEAST.

Another thing I am noticing in all the camp updates (going by Steelers Addicts) that is kinda troubling, is that either our run defense needs work, or this Chris Rainey kid is going to be a lightning rod this year for us. Evrytime I read his name in one of these updates, it is Chris Rainey "for a long gain".

Steelers have some kinks to work out, but am sure they will be ready to bust some heads come week 1.



I can't wait to finally see those RB Screens once again.

FrancoLambert
08-03-2012, 07:51 PM
The tidbit about McClendon having his way with Pouncey in 1 on 1's may be evidence that he's ready to take a big jump this year and improve our play at NT.

Steelersfan87
08-03-2012, 08:06 PM
Everything about McLendon and Heyward so far has been absolutely glowing.

teegre
08-03-2012, 09:00 PM
Everything about McLendon and Heyward so far has been absolutely glowing.

I love me some Heyward.  He reminds me of Woodley (not same position, but developmentally): good rookie season, starter in year two*, and  makes the Pro-Bowl as early as his third year.  

*(Does anyone else see him pushing Hood for a starting spot?  Really, I am asking for info... especially for those of you who've attended training camp.)  

Steelersfan87
08-03-2012, 09:56 PM
Ed Bouchette has stated that, although I honestly think they wouldn't do that to Hood unless Heyward was significantly better and Hood was really struggling. I think Heyward will see A LOT of playing time at both DE spots this year though, possibly playing a third of the game at each end.

teegre
08-04-2012, 01:01 AM
Ed Bouchette has stated that, although I honestly think they wouldn't do that to Hood unless Heyward was significantly better and Hood was really struggling. I think Heyward will see A LOT of playing time at both DE spots this year though, possibly playing a third of the game at each end.

Great point: a three-DE rotation.   They split the downs evenly.  

First series:  Beard & Hood  

Second series:  Heyward & Hood  

Third series:  Beard & Heyward

Steelersfan87
08-04-2012, 04:08 AM
For what it's worth, Bouchette just wrote this:

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/wallaces-absence-strains-depth-647530/

Hood clear-cut starter

An anticipated competition between two first-round draft choices at defensive end has not materialized in the first week of practice in pads in Latrobe.

As it was last season, Ziggy Hood ('09) starts on the left side and Cameron Heyward ('11) backs up Brett Keisel on the right. Hood started 10 games for an injured Aaron Smith in '10 and 14 games for Smith last season. This will be the first season he enters as the starter, provided things stay this way.

"I know what to do, I don't have to worry about learning the plays from somebody else," said Hood, describing what it means to enter this season No. 1 on the left. "I have the plays down."

He also cut some excess, he said, although he still weighs 305.

"I feel physically bigger. I dropped a lot of fat. The scale still reads 305, but I feel physically bigger."

Steel_Bus_24
08-04-2012, 04:13 AM
Lets see what happens in some pre-season games....And even if he is struggling, this guy seems to have that will to succeed about him and will work his tail off to get it right

fastscirocco
08-04-2012, 06:54 AM
I'm excited to see what this team can do!

teegre
08-04-2012, 08:56 AM
The title of the article says: "Hood clear-cut starter."  

But, two paragraphs down, he writes: "This will be the first season he enters as the starter, provided things stay this way."  

Hmmm... well... it sounds to me like Hood is currently the "starter", but that it doesn't rule out Heyward getting a large number of plays.  Right?  

vindrow
08-04-2012, 11:21 AM
I knew it, I knew it, I knew it..we should have never drafted him 1st overall...hell, DeBusto would have lasted until the 5 round and we could have gotten him then.:popcorn::sofunny:

Steelersfan87
08-04-2012, 03:48 PM
The title of the article says: "Hood clear-cut starter."  

But, two paragraphs down, he writes: "This will be the first season he enters as the starter, provided things stay this way."  

Hmmm... well... it sounds to me like Hood is currently the "starter", but that it doesn't rule out Heyward getting a large number of plays.  Right?  

Well, Bouchette sounded more confident a month or two ago than he does now that Heyward would be in a battle with Hood. I don't really know what to think to be honest, although like I said before, Hood will probably have to really struggle to not start.

tony hipchest
08-05-2012, 12:08 AM
Alan Robinson‏@arobinson_Trib

Now will be very surprised if David DeCastro doesn't start opener. He's picking up offense quickly, seems to rarely miss an assignment.

Alan Robinson‏@arobinson_Trib

DeCastro also is B-I-G, even by current NFL standards. Now see why Andrew Luck loved the guy. #Steelers

dbrooks55
08-05-2012, 01:09 AM
I've read and heard over and over how this guy is a stone-faced assassin with cold and piercing stare. That said, I've read atleast a couple times during the duration of camp of him losing one on one battles in drills to seemingly level 3 and 4 tier talent. He needs to pick it up and earn his due. I'm confident he'll get use to the speed, but it needs to come very fast.

Didn't pay too much attention to him while i was there the last 3 days...but do remember his stare, lol...but he did sign alot of autos at the open practice I was at.

teegre
08-05-2012, 11:03 AM
Alan Robinson‏@arobinson_Trib

Now will be very surprised if David DeCastro doesn't start opener. He's picking up offense quickly, seems to rarely miss an assignment.



As we have all stated: drills... meh.  

Blocking assignments on actual plays... DD is looking good.  

BGSU A Dub
08-05-2012, 01:06 PM
We will really start to see what this guy is made of in the pre-season games. Until then, it's all subjective reporting of DRILLS.

Bayz101
08-05-2012, 01:14 PM
We will really start to see what this guy is made of in the pre-season games. Until then, it's all subjective reporting of DRILLS.

FOUR MORE DAYS.

BGSU A Dub
08-05-2012, 01:16 PM
FOUR MORE DAYS.

:tt04::dancing::banana:

steelfury02
08-05-2012, 07:24 PM
:fart:

ricardisimo
08-05-2012, 08:25 PM
Well, Bouchette sounded more confident a month or two ago than he does now that Heyward would be in a battle with Hood. I don't really know what to think to be honest, although like I said before, Hood will probably have to really struggle to not start.
Sorry to continue the derailing here, but I think both Hood and Heyward were extremely solid selections. I just don't understand the logic of drafting both of them. Maybe Keisel gets hurt this year and it all makes sense, but I'm pretty sure we could have addressed the O-line before this year, with one or the other of those picks.

Fire Arians
08-05-2012, 09:09 PM
Sorry to continue the derailing here, but I think both Hood and Heyward were extremely solid selections. I just don't understand the logic of drafting both of them. Maybe Keisel gets hurt this year and it all makes sense, but I'm pretty sure we could have addressed the O-line before this year, with one or the other of those picks.

keisel is in his 10th year as a pro, it wouldn't be unreasonable to say he may need to be replaced soon. while he has been putting together some great seasons, he's not getting any younger. might as well groom his replacement to be ready as soon as he's out rather than have a weakness once he can't go anymore

Curtain_of_Steel
08-05-2012, 09:35 PM
No offense, lol

But it is interesting how the entire thread is based on one sentence.

"I've read and heard" that DD isnt doing well. LOL

Well Thursday night you will get a shot to see what everyone has heard and or read. lol

Now on another note if Fing Colon canstop stepping on Bens ankles, maybe Ben can get out of training camp in only 3 pieces.

tony hipchest
08-05-2012, 10:11 PM
No offense, lol

But it is interesting how the entire thread is based on one sentence.

"I've read and heard" that DD isnt doing well. LOL

Well Thursday night you will get a shot to see what everyone has heard and or read. lol

Now on another note if Fing Colon canstop stepping on Bens ankles, maybe Ben can get out of training camp in only 3 pieces.its not quite that easy to laugh off the thread when it was started amidst legitimate camp reports that decastro got pushed several times and was behind the learning curve (which is all true and probably why the OP asked for a camp update). forgive those who continue to give updates of his progress in this thread. :tt:

no offense, but in the meantime theres plenty of bens injury threads for you to post in. :smile:

TheVet
08-06-2012, 12:02 AM
I gotta confess, I worry a little bit about Decastro. My hopes are high, but I've never seen him play, and all I know is what I've read - draft hype, etc. It all sounds too good to be true, so a little bit of me worries every time I see a negative tidbit.

I'll feel a lot better once I see him steamrolling a few defenders!

steelfury02
08-06-2012, 11:15 AM
from what I read, I think he is just being a rook, which first round Steeler ain't too shabby, right?

I'm kinda with you - let's see him take on some defenses before we start getting excited like we all did with Pouncey. I prob won't start shaping a real opinion until preseason game 3 or 4. I think this one against Eagles won't be much for fans to see (duh, preseason) in terms of development to game speed, and especially since Reid's son was found dead - I think you'll get a bit of a ho-hum Eagles team - just my two cents

Fire Arians
08-06-2012, 12:17 PM
rookies usually struggle, but the most surprising thing to me so far was hearing that adams is having a better camp than DD. at some point i was expecing gilbert to be named the LT

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 08:16 AM
to your point regarding Adams/Gilbert, I think in general we have some nice problems with the O-line this year . . .If we have pedigree with experience in the backups, that really bodes well for the development of the offense

I'm actually more worried about Colon at this juncture than Decastro - can't this guy go any length of time without SOMETHING happening to him, and injuring someone else in the process? That's great that he has attitude and all, and he has potential at guard . . . but when can we actually say the Steelers can lean on him for a stretch of time?

Fire Arians
08-07-2012, 11:46 AM
^ agree w/ colon situation, but if he goes down, he's replaced by foster, which isn't necessarily a terrible scenario. foster's not an all-pro but he's not bad either.

what's maddening about the last 3 years is we always hear about how great colon is in camp / early in the season then bam, he's out for the year

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 12:28 PM
If we have a set of injuries to the O-line again this season, I think its time to take a look at a few things:

A. Conditioning staff
B. The way they practice coming off the ball and blocking a defender, specifically moving their legs
C. What they do to practice balance
D. A hereditary study of every O-linemen

Atlanta Dan
08-07-2012, 01:05 PM
I'm actually more worried about Colon at this juncture than Decastro - can't this guy go any length of time without SOMETHING happening to him, and injuring someone else in the process? That's great that he has attitude and all, and he has potential at guard . . . but when can we actually say the Steelers can lean on him for a stretch of time?

Apparently not yet

Guard Willie Colon and defensive end Cameron Heyward are the only Steelers players who have already been ruled out for Thursday night's preseason opener in Philadelphia, coach Mike Tomlin said today....

That means the team's top two draft choices -- DeCastro and left tackle Mike Adams, their No. 2 pick -- will start together on the offensive line for the first preseason game in what is perhaps a portent of things to come.

"Both guys finish and they're smart, young guys," Tomlin said at a morning news conference at St. Vincent College in Latrobe. "We'll know more about them Thursday night."

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/tomlin-steelers-colon-heyward-out-for-preseason-opener-in-philadelphia-647953/

Glad to see DeCastro get playing time, but it is not as if Colon has mastered the guard position and can just wait until Denver to play

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 01:15 PM
exactly - i get that it is training camp, and you will get bumps and bruises - but I'd like to go some stretch of time without hearing Colon's name. The guy not only has little guard experience, but he doesn't have a lot of game-experience in general as of late.

His time has got to be now for me.

Galax Steeler
08-07-2012, 02:28 PM
It is just a matter of time before DeCastro takes over probably will be sooner then later in my opininon.

Fire Arians
08-07-2012, 02:50 PM
It is just a matter of time before DeCastro takes over probably will be sooner then later in my opininon.

he's starting this thursday which is a good sign. he will be fine once he gets his reps in

Fire Haley
08-07-2012, 02:59 PM
fight it out



Mike Adams and David DeCastro will both start Thursday night

With Willie Colon out this week, Foster will play left guard and DeCastro right guard.

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 03:35 PM
Anybody want to guess as to what first play call will be?

pancake
08-07-2012, 03:55 PM
Bengal fans have heard that DD is struggling and they're exstatic that Cincy's scouting department saw this coming...

What fools.:blah:

GoFor7
08-07-2012, 04:21 PM
Bengal fans have heard that DD is struggling and they're exstatic that Cincy's scouting department saw this coming...

What fools.:blah:

I thought I heard the reason DeCastro fell was because scouts felt he could only make it as a guard rather than someone who could swing between guard and tackle.

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 04:23 PM
your team has to have a pass rush to get excited

tony hipchest
08-07-2012, 04:24 PM
James C Wexell‏@jimwexell

In 2 min drill, McLendon head up over DeCastro every play, and was blocked every play.

teegre
08-07-2012, 04:40 PM
Bengal fans have heard that DD is struggling and they're exstatic that Cincy's scouting department saw this coming...

What fools.:blah:

Zeitler has ALWAYS been the more athletic, more physical, & stronger player.  Ergo, Zeitler SHOULD be dominating in drills.  

DD's best attribute is playing in space and/or into the second level.  

One-on-one, Zeitler is a beast.  In turn, in DRILLS (and in goal-line) I would give the slight nod to him.  On ACTUAL PLAYS  (and between the 10s), DD will be able to use his smarts to block multiple players on one play (DT... LB... maybe even a player in the secondary).  

I've always compared DD to a 305 pound fullback: he blocks through the hole, into the secondary.  

tanda10506
08-07-2012, 05:20 PM
James C Wexell‏@jimwexell

In 2 min drill, McLendon head up over DeCastro every play, and was blocked every play.


That's the one I've been waiting for! He may struggle from time to time, especially in camp, just because he's a rookie, but every report I had heard had him losing consistently and every now and then making a good play. I've been waiting to hear about a solid segment where he was heads up with a D lineman and dominated. Sure I always want to hear the best, but the struggles here and there aren't worrisome to me if the majority of the time he's showing he has the capability to dominate. The little stuff will get worked out.

Atlanta Dan
08-07-2012, 05:39 PM
Anybody want to guess as to what first play call will be?

Flanker screen out of an empty backfield

Bayz101
08-07-2012, 05:42 PM
Flanker screen out of an empty backfield

Oddly enough, i'm going with a redman run up the middle.

teegre
08-07-2012, 05:49 PM
Three straight BUBBLE SCREENS.

fastscirocco
08-07-2012, 05:59 PM
Or the Lions typical game plan: ;-)

Run Barry Right
Run Barry Left
Run Barry Up the middle
Punt

Steelersfan87
08-07-2012, 06:03 PM
Steelers Depot
‏@Steelersdepot
Tunch says DeCastro seems to getting more used to the angles now. #steelers

Steelers Depot
‏@Steelersdepot
Tunch saw improvement today alone with DeCastro #steelers

Also, I'm not worried about Colon at all right now. A fat guy fell on his ankle and they're just being careful with it.

TheVet
08-07-2012, 06:04 PM
Oh man, keep the positive news on DeCastro coming!!!

Steelersfan87
08-07-2012, 06:06 PM
Indeed, he evidently had a hell of a practice today and seems to be starting to put all the pieces together.

TheVet
08-07-2012, 06:16 PM
Thursday night can't come fast enough for me. My eyes are never leaving Adams and DD. But I hope Rainey makes that tough!

pete74
08-07-2012, 06:45 PM
im surprised DD and Adams are both starting thursday night but im eager to see them both play there 2 series

GoFor7
08-07-2012, 06:50 PM
Or the Lions typical game plan: ;-)

Run Barry Right
Run Barry Left
Run Barry Up the middle
Punt

Well that's the Lion's game plan of old. Today it's:

Throw to Megatron
Throw to Megatron
Throw to Megatron
Punt
Suh goes on the field and cheapshots someone
Suh gets ejected
Herr Goodell teaches Suh a lesson by suspending James Harrison

steelfury02
08-07-2012, 09:32 PM
Herr Goodell! I love it - lol, where are those pictures of Goodell with the Adolf mustache on the telephone - I miss that so much :chuckle:

Edit: Ok, I'll throw one in for good measure
http://www.stillers.com/UserFiles/Images/Trenches/AdolfGoodell-01.png

GoFor7
08-07-2012, 10:15 PM
Herr Goodell! I love it - lol, where are those pictures of Goodell with the Adolf mustache on the telephone - I miss that so much :chuckle:

Edit: Ok, I'll throw one in for good measure
http://www.stillers.com/UserFiles/Images/Trenches/AdolfGoodell-01.png

I think I found the video of the speech Herr Goodell was giving in that picture. Not sure what Jews have to do with James Harrison.... oh well, that's what happens when you get too much power.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0V_xf3OQgM&feature=related

Steelersfan87
08-07-2012, 11:20 PM
im surprised DD and Adams are both starting thursday night but im eager to see them both play there 2 series

Well, I wouldn't read much into it just yet. Keep in mind that if Colon were not hurt and Starks were not on the PUP list, I don't think either would be starting.

Also, I think they're likely to play more than just what the starters play, as they need the game experience. I'm looking forward to seeing Kelvin Beachum as well. Supposedly he will be getting playing time at both LG and LT.

teegre
08-07-2012, 11:38 PM
. I'm looking forward to seeing Kelvin Beachum as well. Supposedly he will be getting playing time at both LG and LT.

Beachum was a nice pick. Smart kid; can play any position. Kugler requested this pick.

Bayz101
08-07-2012, 11:38 PM
Well, I wouldn't read much into it just yet. Keep in mind that if Colon were not hurt and Starks were not on the PUP list, I don't think either would be starting.

Also, I think they're likely to play more than just what the starters play, as they need the game experience. I'm looking forward to seeing Kelvin Beachum as well. Supposedly he will be getting playing time at both LG and LT.

Considering the Steelers drafted these guys in the first two rounds, I wasn't surprised in the least that they'd be starting on Thursday, and I wouldn't be surprised if they start the next three games as well. Tomlin wants them to get a little play time under their belts, and hopefully the rookies will keep Ben from getting killed. :chuckle:

tony hipchest
08-07-2012, 11:58 PM
Considering the Steelers drafted these guys in the first two rounds, I wasn't surprised in the least that they'd be starting on Thursday, and I wouldn't be surprised if they start the next three games as well. Tomlin wants them to get a little play time under their belts, and hopefully the rookies will keep Ben from getting killed. ::chuckle:

funny you should mention that-

LATROBE – Marcus Gilbert understands what Mike Adams is going through, and Gilbert thinks the rookie left tackle will come through his first NFL preseason game Thursday night just fine.
“Mike’s been running a lot of reps with the ones and he’s feeling more comfortable each time he comes out to practice,” said Gilbert. “All he has to do is carry it over to the game and he’ll be fine.”

Gilbert, of course, is the Steelers’ starting right tackle. But last preseason he was the left tackle against these very Philadelphia Eagles and pass-rusher Trent Cole.

Gilbert wasn’t scheduled to play with the first team that night, but Jonathan Scott was injured on the first play and Gilbert was thrown into the fire. He helped complete the 14-play touchdown drive, and the confidence he gleaned from the success catapulted him to the team Rookie of the Year Award by the end of the season.

“I just went in there and had to play with high confidence,” Gilbert said. “You have to be aware of your responsibility, which is protecting Ben (Roethlisberger), our leader and a great quarterback. You have to realize you’re going to do any and everything to keep guys off of him.”

Roethlisberger dropped back to pass four times that night and was hit three times with a sack. However, none of those hits came from Cole, the Eagles’ third all-time leading sack specialist, who lined up across from Gilbert.

Gilbert called him “one of the top dudes I faced the whole year,”



http://pit.scout.com/2/1209392.html

43Hitman
08-08-2012, 07:15 AM
funny you should mention that-



http://pit.scout.com/2/1209392.html


We should be very careful with Ben in this first exhibition game. Philly will be playing inspired with the passing of Andy Reid's son.

steelfury02
08-08-2012, 08:34 AM
Give Ben 2 series and get him the heck out of there.

Give Byron and Charlie 1 series and get them the heck out of there :flap:

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-08-2012, 08:49 AM
funny you should mention that-



http://pit.scout.com/2/1209392.html

Tony, I admitt that I was skeptical of Gilberts footwork when drafted, but after watching that preseason game against the Eagles and Cole, I was impressed with him.

In that game, Cole beat Gilbert to the edge, but Gilbert used his athleticism and long arms to ride Cole all the way around Ben to keep him clean. Trent Cole beats a lot of guys to the edge, but some arent quick enough to recover. Its why I think Gilbert can play LT well if needed.

Adams should be an even better athlete, but what he flashed in college was times of laziness or lack of focus, where a guy like Cole will set him up with a couple outside rushes, then rip cross-face on a later move when he gets him leaning. Gonna be fun to watch them for the first couple series that the 1's are in. :popcorn:

tony hipchest
08-08-2012, 08:54 AM
Tony, I admitt that I was skeptical of Gilberts footwork when drafted, but after watching that preseason game against the Eagles and Cole, I was impressed with him.

In that game, Cole beat Gilbert to the edge, but Gilbert used his athleticism and long arms to ride Cole all the way around Ben to keep him clean. Trent Cole beats a lot of guys to the edge, but some arent quick enough to recover. Its why I think Gilbert can play LT well if needed.

Adams should be an even better athlete, but what he flashed in college was times of laziness or lack of focus, where a guy like Cole will set him up with a couple outside rushes, then rip cross-face on a later move when he gets him leaning. Gonna be fun to watch them for the first couple series that the 1's are in. :popcorn:it seems like adams stupid marijuana issue is a forgotten thing of the far past. but hopefully that scare, haviong to beg his way back in and actually getting drafted by a team he allegedly loves, has given him a new sense of drive and sharpened his focus on what matters most in life and right now, that is protecting big ben. i cant wait to see them in action either.

imagine a young talented OL group across the board... :popcorn: (i think im getting a woody).

ebsteelers
08-08-2012, 08:57 AM
if double d doesnt play good tomorrow, i say we trade him for a stick of bubble gum, and a few jelly beans

FrancoLambert
08-08-2012, 09:04 AM
Everyone, take a deep breath and relax, DD will be fine come September.

^^^^^^^ Just a reminder for those who missed it the first time. ^^^^^^^

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-08-2012, 09:05 AM
it seems like adams stupid marijuana issue is a forgotten thing of the far past. but hopefully that scare, haviong to beg his way back in and actually getting drafted by a team he allegedly loves, has given him a new sense of drive and sharpened his focus on what matters most in life and right now, that is protecting big ben. i cant wait to see them in action either.

imagine a young talented OL group across the board... :popcorn: (i think im getting a woody).

It wasnt just the pot. IMO, Adams was inconsistent, got suspended, didnt spent time in the weight room AND was smoking pot before the combine where he would get tested (STUPID).

All of that added up to a lot of red flags that no team in their right mind would give top 15 draft pick $$$ to. If he is scared straight, then we got a winner. If he relapses, we got Robert Gallery.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-08-2012, 09:06 AM
^^^^^^^ Just a reminder for those who missed it the first time. ^^^^^^^

Thanks, I dont think you can say that enough.

steelfury02
08-08-2012, 09:07 AM
like I said, if Decastro doesn't reach Alan Faneca pro-bowl levels at preseason game 1, then I say get rid of the loser:chuckle:

ebsteelers
08-08-2012, 10:31 AM
like I said, if Decastro doesn't reach Alan Faneca pro-bowl levels at preseason game 1, then I say get rid of the loser:chuckle:

if i was the coach i would of cut him first helmet only practice

Atlanta Dan
08-08-2012, 11:37 AM
if i was the coach i would of cut him first helmet only practice

And bring back Kemo!!:thumbsup::tt03:

Curtain_of_Steel
08-08-2012, 12:01 PM
Yea Kemo or Chemo is what we need, LOL

From day 1, Decastro and Adams would start. It wasnt a reach to predict that, as look what they had to beat out.

So what if Decastro was pushed back in camp. Is it any worse than what has occurred the past 4 years? Nope. He will quickly get better and adjust.

Section 103 at the Linc tomorrow night. Go Steelers!

BGSU A Dub
08-08-2012, 03:42 PM
I'm sure no matter how Adams and DeCastro play tomorrow (good or bad), people will blow it way out of proportion. Remember, it's just one game- it's early in the season. At least give them until week 5.

GoFor7
08-08-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm sure no matter how Adams and DeCastro play tomorrow (good or bad), people will blow it way out of proportion. Remember, it's just one game- it's early in the season. At least give them until week 5.

Media's response if Steelers win:

"This game means nothing. It's just a preseason game."

Media's response if the Eagles win:

"STEELERS ARE IN TURMOIL! 8-8 RECORD AT BEST! THE EAGLES ARE THE DREAM TEAM! THEY'LL PLAY THE RAVENS IN THE SUPER BOWL!"

jtoven
08-08-2012, 05:56 PM
DD will unleash once he sees a different color jersey in front of him. He seems like one of those guys that are real quiet and calm until it really counts and his true character comes out. "DD MODE"

steelfury02
08-09-2012, 09:34 AM
DD Mode sounds like an AutoCAD command

My expectations for Decastro this season: Playoff beard:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-D5m0BIL-PMM/T9dS1jeXWzI/AAAAAAAAEsg/r0pr4NF7tEo/s1600/decastro_beard.jpg

Steelersfan87
08-11-2012, 05:42 PM
James C Wexell ‏@jimwexell
Kugler said DeCastro definitely the starting RG. I'll be writing up the complete interview soon.

TheVet
08-11-2012, 07:36 PM
James C Wexell ‏@jimwexell
Kugler said DeCastro definitely the starting RG. I'll be writing up the complete interview soon.

There's no question about it. Anyone who took the time to watch every offensive play in slow-mo (:tt02:) knows that DeCastro is already way beyond Foster. Who knows about Colon, but I'll be very happy if he can match DeCastro at OG.

tanda10506
08-11-2012, 11:47 PM
I think Colon will be "better" then DeCastro, at least until around midseason. I haven't gone back and watched the game yet, good to hear he did so well. In real time with no DVR I didn't see much out of him, but I didn't see him make mistakes either.

Bayz101
08-11-2012, 11:50 PM
I think Colon will be "better" then DeCastro, at least until around midseason. I haven't gone back and watched the game yet, good to hear he did so well. In real time with no DVR I didn't see much out of him, but I didn't see him make mistakes either.

I'm in the process of uploading the game file to and uploading service I use, but being that's it's a massive file, it's taking a while. I'll send you a link to the video so you can review it.

tanda10506
08-12-2012, 02:47 AM
I'm in the process of uploading the game file to and uploading service I use, but being that's it's a massive file, it's taking a while. I'll send you a link to the video so you can review it.

No it's on my DVR, I just wasn't able to use the TV with the DVR during the game. Thanks though

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-12-2012, 09:13 AM
Wasn't this the guy that was struggling in practice last week? So maybe the panic button was pressed a bit too early by some fans.:doh:

He's gonna be a good one for a long time. He was shaky a bit...looked like he was a bit slow on some plays, but always managed to finish his blocks.

tony hipchest
08-12-2012, 12:44 PM
Mike Prisuta‏@DVEMike

Willie Colon on 66 in Philly: "I don't think he had a mental error. For a kid in his first game that speaks volumes. He played a great game"


Mike Prisuta‏@DVEMike

Gilbert on 66 in Philly: "Seemed like he was very comfortable, like he's been playing there a couple years now. Made everything very smooth"


Mike Prisuta‏@DVEMike

Marcus Gilbert on DeCastro's starting RG status: "Yeah, I'm excited for him. Very happy, he deserved it. He played a heck of a first game."


Mike Prisuta‏@DVEMike

Sean Kugler said of DeCastro Sat.: "Right now he's our starting RG." DeCastro reax Sun.: "I have a lot more time until the season starts."




Mike Prisuta‏@DVEMike

DeCastro on what he did in Philadelphia to impress Steelers' staff: "I have no idea. I don't even worry about that. I just play the game."




jim wexell has this to add-

James C Wexell‏@jimwexell

."@DVEMike DeCastro on what he did to impress staff: "I have no idea. I don't even worry about that. I just play the game."- total badass