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tony hipchest
08-06-2012, 01:31 PM

By Mark Kaboly | Tribune-Review

LaMarr Woodley already has sack years of 11.5, 13.5 and 10 within the first three seasons as the Steelers’ starting outside linebacker.

Woodley is the only player in NFL history to record at least two sacks in four consecutive postseason games and has 11 sacks in eight playoff games.

Impressive to all … except for maybe his position coach Keith Butler.

Even though Woodley has put up staggering numbers (44 sacks in 57 starts) since becoming a starter in 2008, Butler believes that Woodley could be one of the best who ever played the game — if he wants to.

“LaMarr, like a lot of players, sometimes it takes a few years to understand what the league is all about and how competitive the league is,” Butler said. “A lot of guys come in the league and have a lot of natural ability. At some point in time they realize they have to work in order to stand out in this league. If you don’t work, you are just going to be another guy — a good player, but not a great player.”

Butler was referring to Woodley’s on-again, off-again weight issues.

Listed at 265 pounds, Woodley showed up at camp last year overweight, which led to a slow first month of the season followed by a hamstring injury later in the year that kept him out six games and parts of two others.

“Wood has to decide if he wants to be a great player,” Butler said. “When he decides that, he is going to be a bear.”

Woodley had his least productive year finishing with nine sacks and only 39 tackles. The first four games, he had 1.5 sacks and 16 total tackles.

“He just wasn’t in shape,” Butler said. “He’ll tell you that. If he don’t tell you that, I’ll tell you that, I don’t care. He has to get his big butt in shape, I tell him that all of the time: Don’t come to camp weighing 290.”

Woodley took Butler’s advice and came into camp close to his listed weight, but had been nursing a sore groin that kept him out of full-contact practice for four days. He returned fully for Sunday’s practice at their facility on the Southside.

“He has gotten himself in shape this year,” Butler said. “I am pleased at where he is at this year.”

Woodley has been dominant in the past, and especially in the big-time games. His sack of Kurt Warner late in Super Bowl XLIII sealed the game for the Steelers. Even last year when teammate James Harrison was out with an orbital bone fracture, Woodley picked up his game and collected 7.5 sacks in the four games Harrison was out. The Steelers are 5-2 in postseason games when Woodley records a sack.

“I am always rising up to the challenge,” Woodley said. “My goals are to get back to the Super Bowl and win it. When you set that high goal there, everything else just plays out. I really don’t need to set personal goals.”

08-06-2012, 02:10 PM
I like this. Hopefully he keeps the weight off.

El-Gonzo Jackson
08-06-2012, 02:11 PM
He's overrated, doesnt hustle and gets sacks because he is always blocked by RB's.:rolleyes: Oops, this sarcasm probably makes sense in a different forum.

08-06-2012, 02:54 PM
Turn it up a notch fat man.

08-06-2012, 03:05 PM
They'll need Woodley to be as good as Butler says he can be. I'm not sure how much Harrison can be counted on this season. Given his age (34), and the fact the Steelers will have to do some cap trimming next offseason, this may be it for Harrison.

tony hipchest
08-06-2012, 04:24 PM
He's overrated, doesnt hustle and gets sacks because he is always blocked by RB's.:rolleyes: Oops, this sarcasm probably makes sense in a different forum.this post is obviously missing a "gildong" reference. didnt you know all of his sacks are "gildong" sacks, a sack that even ray charles could stumble upon? :chuckle:

now i know woodley wasnt 290 last year. thats just the coaches way of telling him to not get soft or pudgy and go out and achieve his full potential. woodley sounds like he is taking it to heart.

08-06-2012, 04:30 PM
I saw a video of him on YouTube working out. He's definitely carrying extra padding. It's funny how round he is compared to guys like Vernon Ghoulston. I remember all of the openly homoerotic drooling that went on before Ghoulston got drafted. Nothing of the sort with Wood. But then you look at the results...

08-06-2012, 10:30 PM
Lockout didnt help.

08-06-2012, 10:34 PM
Lockout didnt help.

True, but as a football player Woodley should've done more to stay in shape during the lockout.

Hawaii 5-0
08-07-2012, 01:13 AM
True, but as a football player Woodley should've done more to stay in shape during the lockout.

maybe Woodley could get some tips from Big Snack on how to properly train to stay in shape during the off-season...


08-07-2012, 09:33 AM
THIS is his goal. Notice the Flacco skull on the necklace . . .

Hawaii 5-0
08-19-2012, 02:59 AM
Huge Opportunity For Woodley To Be #1 Pass Rusher For The Steelers

Aug 18th, 2012 by Dominic Di Tolla


You knew it was bound to happen. At some point, James Harrison’s body had to start deteriorating due to his hard-nosed play and his age (34 currently). With Deebo’s knee being scoped and already with back issues, #92 is in danger of missing a decent amount of time this season, and is at the age where Outside Linebackers start to see the quality of their play decline. Then when you add in the fact that he will be one of the more expensive players for the franchise to keep post-2012 ($6.5+ mil due in 2013), the Steelers could sure use another Outside Linebacker to step up either this season or the next to take Harrison’s spot and strike fear into opposing Quarterbacks. Luckily for Pittsburgh and “Steeler Nation” alike, a Pro Bowler is already on their roster.

Because the Front Office already had salary cap issues, were intent on and allowed veteran dead-weight to hang around on the roster, did not address other positions of need (particularly Offensive Line), and did not use the money to lock up other talented players already on the team (#17), I am still not what you would call the biggest fan of the $61.5 million dollar extension that the club signed LaMarr Woodley to last season. Quibbles about the size and the nature of the extension aside, I am however glad that the Steelers extended Woodley for one very important reason. Why you may ask? Well, because if there is anything the Steelers currently need which they appeared not to need in August of 2011, it is experienced and quality depth at the Outside Linebacker position.

With “Deebo’s” status already discussed, the Steelers are not exactly setting the world ablaze in the pass rushing department as they enter the 2012 campaign. Top backup Jason Worilds is on the shelf nursing a bum wrist, and who knows when he will be ready to play. Chris Carter is a talented player ready to break out but still without any significant game experience. Veteran Free Agent pickup Brandon Johnson is likely to split time on the Inside, used in pass coverage in sub-packages, and star on Special Teams where he has excelled in the past. And raw UDFA Adrian Robinson is on the roster but will likely be a Special Teams contributor this season if he makes the team.

Because of this, Pittsburgh needs all hands on deck in the pass-rushing department this season, and Woodley will be counted on to step up his game and lead the charge. If the Steelers Defense wants to improve on the paltry Turnover statistics which they put up in 2011, it starts with the pass-rush and attacking the Quarterback on a consistent basis, and this is where Woodley unquestionably helps this team the most.

Final Thoughts

In a recent post by Mike Florio of Pro Football Talk.com (via Mark Kaboly of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review), Linebackers Coach Keith Butler is ready to see Woodley take “the next step” and emerge as an elite player. Unlike 2011, Butler wants Woodley motivated and hungry to step his game up in 2012 and become a the “great” player (DPOY like Harrison in 2008) he knows that he can be, not a “good” one (48.0 career Sacks) which Woodley already is.

The stage is thus set for #56 to become the next terrific 3-4 Outside Linebacker which this system has produced and helped to achieve greatness since the early 1980′s. As I alluded to before, Pittsburgh’s pass-rush and improvement in said department will be of the utmost importance this season, and could be the biggest thing between success and failure for this team in 2012. Pittsburgh will be inserting Keenan Lewis, Cortez Allen and Curtis Brown into the lineup quite a bit this season, and there is no better way to help young and inexperienced Corners (inexperience as a starter for Lewis) than a fantastic pass rush.

A hampered Deebo playing not at 80%, a PUP List Deebo, or Deebo not around come 2013-2014 is bad. An injured Worilds, plus Carter not panning out compounding those events is even worse. Regardless if events do transpire in these directions or not, the soon to be 28 year-old former Wolverine will be asked to be the “Head Honcho” at Outside Linebacker sooner rather than later.

With these things in mind, Woodley must answer the proverbial “bell” and answer it now. Woodley has at least a three to four year window to be the #1 guy on his depth chart at the position, and be the most feared option on the Steelers’ Defense when the opposition breaks down game tape for the week. Will he take what Butler said to heart and be “great?” Or will Woodley just be content to be “good?”

I am sure that I can speak for all of Steeler Nation when I hope that it is the former.


08-19-2012, 06:04 AM
Now remember, no matter how much weight a player gains it's impossible for it to affect his play on the field. If anyone says otherwise then they no absolutely nothing about football. Right?