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Fire Haley
09-10-2012, 08:55 AM
fresh off the presses...


That is a tough defeat, as they all are. That was a tough, hard-fought game. Just in a nutshell I thought they made the significant plays in the second half of the football game, particularly down the stretch, really kind of in all three phases. We lacked the significant play, the game defining play. They made them. Obviously when that happens you are going to lose football games like we did tonight. We accept that; we acknowledge that. We have to get better and get better in a hurry. We have a new challenge facing us in about six and a half days.

Can you talk about the injuries to Ramon Foster and Marcus Gilbert?
Ramon had an eye injury of some kind. He is being evaluated as we speak. Marcus just hyper-extended his knee. Hopefully that wonít be serious. Weíll see.

Can you talk about the ability to possess the ball?
That was our intensions in terms of how we worked. We needed to possess the ball. We needed to get stops. Time of possession is just that. When you look at the scoreboard they got it done, we didnít. The plan didnít come to fruition.

Can you talk about the decision to challenge the play near the goal line?
I didnít know whether the ball came out or not. They were in a hurry-up mode. You are not getting that information quickly in hostile environments. I thought it was worthy of a timeout right there to see for ourselves. Obviously he didnít fumble the ball so they maintained possession and then they went in and scored.

Were you able to see it?
Someone did. Thatís why it was given to me.

You ran the no-huddle Ė was that the plan?
We had planned to do that. Not specifically how it unfolded, but game circumstances change things sometimes. I was comfortable with the no-huddle attack and what we were doing in it, just not enough significant plays made particularly down the stretch.

Did their no-huddle cause you some problems?
We didnít make significant plays, third down plays, plays that get you off the field. They did. They didnít have many third down opportunities. I think they were five or six of nine, something like that. We just didnít make enough football plays. You have to give credit to them. They did, they executed.

Peyton Manning has been away for a year. What did you think of his performance?
He is Peyton.

http://blog.steelers.com/2012/09/10/coach-tomlins-post-game-comments-2/
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Time of possession don't mean squat when your defense is a sieve.


Ben on the pick 6

"I should have called time out," Roethlisberger said. "The play clock was running down, and I hate to burn time outs, but I should have because we were kind of all over the place."

"There's no one to blame but myself. I already told my teammates and coaches, it's my fault and it's on me. That loss is squarely on my shoulders."

steelfury02
09-10-2012, 09:02 AM
If I could take one positive from last night's loss, it would be that I see a new direction for the offense and Ben as a leader. To me, it looks like Ben wants to become a true commander out there and purposeful ball possession is the theme - at least there seems to be a plan for this offense, an identity. Except for taking a couple of more shots on 1st and 2nd down, I like where this COULD be heading. The O-line situation is enough to put any fan in tears.

Somebody in the o-line unit must have some sort of inherited curse or something that requires nothing short of raising and protecting Damien lol. Seriously, how many more freakin shuffling can we do? Dangit - I shouldn't have even said that.

Just based off last night's performance, I'd say heading into week 2, the defense is of moderate concern.

Fire Haley
09-10-2012, 09:20 AM
The offense will figure itself out.

The defense on the other hand - Peyton made LeBeau his bitch, so yeah, that's a problem. Troy got caught cheating at the LOS again in one of those 'dialed up blitzes', and let in another 70 yd TD.

Worst DL ever too- a bunch of schmoes - - can we get Aaron Smith to un-retire?

steelfury02
09-10-2012, 09:26 AM
You can call me dumb if you'd like - is there a reason Why Troy either played so deep, or right on the line? I was wondering if there was a way to sort of split the difference and try not to make his intentions so predictable . . .? Thoughts?

Fire Haley
09-10-2012, 09:42 AM
Every team in the league will be running the no-huddle against the Steelers, I see the Ravens are practicing it already - the days of teams fearing Blitzburgh are over - they are soft up front and living off reputation now...two blitzes schemes up the middle scare no one when everyone and their brother runs the 3-4.

Kanata-Steeler
09-10-2012, 09:43 AM
Toonlin's Comments were: "Well, I take all blame for our loss, There's no one to blame but myself, It's all my fault, maybe I should have ...."

Manning's Bio-Robotic Surgeon's Comments were: Well, Peyton Manning is better than before, I have built him into a lean, mean, fighting machine, very similar to The Terminator, ..., and umm, thankyou very much, and I hope everyone will continue to enjoy watching him."

tony hipchest
09-10-2012, 10:27 AM
tomlin needs one of those little cheat sheets that tell coaches WHEN to go for 2. he is horrible in this regard. with tons of time left you kick the extra point and bring the game within 6 (2 fg's). you dont need to try and make it a 7 point game.

he needs a better set of eyes telling him when to challenge. if there is any doubt, dont throw the red sack.

steelfury02
09-10-2012, 10:29 AM
yes, certainly don't need to waste a valuable TO, we had 2 left in the end I believe, but if you aren't certain, live to fight another day

Shoulda woulda coulda I guess . . .

El-Gonzo Jackson
09-10-2012, 11:10 AM
You can call me dumb if you'd like - is there a reason Why Troy either played so deep, or right on the line? I was wondering if there was a way to sort of split the difference and try not to make his intentions so predictable . . .? Thoughts?

I think Troy had to cover the deep part of the field because Ryan Mundy is rather heavy footed and not as good in coverage as Ryan Clark.

Also, in hearing Rod Woodson interviewed last week he said "you really don't need an in the box safety in the NFL any more". Steelers needed one because their LB's were not effective last night at filling gaps and stopping the run. When Troy was in the box, Manning passed or brought protection.

This is why I really hope the Steelers upgrade next year in the draft at Safety and pick somebody like Eric Reid or Robert Lester.

GoFor7
09-10-2012, 11:37 AM
Ben on the pick 6

"I should have called time out," Roethlisberger said. "The play clock was running down, and I hate to burn time outs, but I should have because we were kind of all over the place."

"There's no one to blame but myself. I already told my teammates and coaches, it's my fault and it's on me. That loss is squarely on my shoulders."

While it's typical of most QBs to say that after a loss, it most certainly is not all on his shoulders. Conservative play-calling early on and a crap defense lost this game. Ben converted all those 3rd and longs when Art's calls didn't work on first and second down. He gave them a chance to win in the end, unfortunately it just didn't go as he'd hoped.

steelfury02
09-10-2012, 11:45 AM
i guess what I'm saying is that I get the reasoning, maybe no matter what, Peyton just knew Troy had a lot of ground to cover and had a way to beat him no matter what the scenario

Steel95
09-10-2012, 12:20 PM
Trust me, Joe Flacco is licking his chops!

SteeleReign
09-10-2012, 12:28 PM
Trust me, Joe Flacco is licking his chops!

Yeah, I'm sure he's licking somebody's chops. :chuckle:

Ricco Suavez
09-10-2012, 05:33 PM
I think its time to at least acknowledge that the way this team plays is on Tomlin. What I mean for example is, we constantly make bone-head mental mistakes (penalties, holding and illegal procedure, delay of game, etc) that seem to move us back or calls back big plays. Not only did the run, run, put it on Ben plan put us in 3rd and medium to long all night , how many times did we get a penalty to set up a 3rd and 17 or more. I also do not understand the mentality of establishing the run and then when its 1st and goal on the 3 yd line we come out slinging. Sure its much easier to pass when you have 22 large athletes crammed in 13 yds of space. Its time Tomlin holds someone accountable, either the coaches or the players. Even the play clock, if this is Ben holding to the last second or a coaches call then someone needs to be told IT IS PREDICTABLE, a quick count every once and a while might make a small difference.

GoFor7
09-10-2012, 05:36 PM
I think its time to at least acknowledge that the way this team plays is on Tomlin. What I mean for example is, we constantly make bone-head mental mistakes (penalties, holding and illegal procedure, delay of game, etc) that seem to move us back or calls back big plays. Not only did the run, run, put it on Ben plan put us in 3rd and medium to long all night , how many times did we get a penalty to set up a 3rd and 17 or more. I also do not understand the mentality of establishing the run and then when its 1st and goal on the 3 yd line we come out slinging. Sure its much easier to pass when you have 22 large athletes crammed in 13 yds of space. Its time Tomlin holds someone accountable, either the coaches or the players. Even the play clock, if this is Ben holding to the last second or a coaches call then someone needs to be told IT IS PREDICTABLE, a quick count every once and a while might make a small difference.

But run, run, pass is what Art Rooney II wants. You dare criticize him? Careful, you might get struck by lightning in the middle of a sunny afternoon.

Hawaii 5-0
09-10-2012, 05:39 PM
But run, run, pass is what Art Rooney II wants. You dare criticize him? Careful, you might get struck by lightning in the middle of a sunny afternoon.

the Steelers passed the ball 40 times last night, not enough for you?

Buddha Bus
09-10-2012, 05:43 PM
ISomebody in the o-line unit must have some sort of inherited curse or something that requires nothing short of raising and protecting Damien lol.

I think Greg Brady gave his tiki necklace to Willie Colon. :chuckle:


http://tikichick.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/ctz11609-8.jpg

GoFor7
09-10-2012, 05:45 PM
the Steelers passed the ball 40 times last night, not enough for you?

Considering all the 2nd & long and 3rd & long situations granddaddy's football put Ben in, 40 times doesn't seem like much.

Not about how many times they throw anyways, it's about using their best weapons instead of clinging to the 70's.

Fire Haley
09-10-2012, 06:15 PM
- our back-up plan is now in shambles

Colts signed G/T Trai Essex and waived OT Mike Person and C A.Q. Shipley.

29-year-old Essex knows Colts OC Bruce Arians' offense from their days together in the Steel City. Essex is a legitimate candidate to start at right tackle in Week 2

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football

Buddha Bus
09-10-2012, 06:17 PM
- our back-up plan is now in shambles

Colts signed G/T Trai Essex and waived OT Mike Person and C A.Q. Shipley.

29-year-old Essex knows Colts OC Bruce Arians' offense from their days together in the Steel City. Essex is a legitimate candidate to start at right tackle in Week 2

http://www.rotoworld.com/sports/nfl/football


What's Jonathan Scott up to? :hide:





EDIT: I can't believe I just said that. http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2815/14/51/45/smiles/1883569342.gif

Fire Haley
09-10-2012, 06:29 PM
What's Jonathan Scott up to? :hide:





EDIT: I can't believe I just said that. http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2815/14/51/45/smiles/1883569342.gif



Bears signed OT Jonathan Scott.

The Bears were waiting until after Week 1 so they wouldn't have to guarantee Scott's contract. The ex-Steeler brings some veteran depth to the table as he has 29 career starts under his belt. J'Marcus Webb and Gabe Carimi are locked in as the Bears' starting tackles.

http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football

Lord of Lombardi
09-10-2012, 10:49 PM
tomlin needs one of those little cheat sheets that tell coaches WHEN to go for 2. he is horrible in this regard. with tons of time left you kick the extra point and bring the game within 6 (2 fg's). you dont need to try and make it a 7 point game.

he needs a better set of eyes telling him when to challenge. if there is any doubt, dont throw the red sack.

I completely agree and while you are at it, give him a cheat sheet for when to spike the ball. There were 52 seconds left and we had 1 time out on the board before the half and BB spikes the ball on 1st down. Ben ended up throwing a TD on 3rd down but I was screaming for BB not to spike it. That was another screw up with time management. Coaches and elite QB's seem to know what to do there. We spiked the ball and I was cursing up a storm.

Blows me away that you choose to let 2 FG's beat you rather than tie you. 14 minutes left you take all points IDIOTS!

Bayz101
09-10-2012, 11:02 PM
What's Jonathan Scott up to? :hide:





EDIT: I can't believe I just said that. http://r28.imgfast.net/users/2815/14/51/45/smiles/1883569342.gif

My suicide emoticon has gotten some use. :chuckle:

teegre
09-10-2012, 11:49 PM
I completely agree and while you are at it, give him a cheat sheet for when to spike the ball. There were 52 seconds left and we had 1 time out on the board before the half and BB spikes the ball on 1st down. Ben ended up throwing a TD on 3rd down but I was screaming for BB not to spike it. That was another screw up with time management. Coaches and elite QB's seem to know what to do there. We spiked the ball and I was cursing up a storm!

I totally agree. †

I turned to my brother, and said, "Don't spike it... don't spike it...†don't spike it...†don't spike it...†don't spike it... " †

Alas... †

GoFor7
09-10-2012, 11:56 PM
I totally agree. †

I turned to my brother, and said, "Don't spike it... don't spike it...†don't spike it...†don't spike it...†don't spike it... " †

Alas... †

I'm not sure if that's on Ben or Tomlin. By that, I mean that during Tomlin's tenure as coach clock management hasn't been a strength.

teegre
09-11-2012, 12:03 AM
I'm not sure if that's on Ben or Tomlin. By that, I mean that during Tomlin's tenure as coach clock management hasn't been a strength.

IMO: Tomlin.

Coincidently, my brother asked me the same question: "Does BB want to spike it, or is he being told to by Tomlin?" [My answer was, onviously, Tomlin.]

GoFor7
09-11-2012, 12:07 AM
IMO: Tomlin.

Coincidently, my brother asked me the same question: "Does BB want to spike it, or is he being told to by Tomlin?" [My answer was, onviously, Tomlin.]

Well since they got a touchdown it's not something to get worked up about. I'm more concerned about the wasted opportunity after the defense forced a turnover at mid-field in the first half. Run, run, sack at 3rd& long, punt. Totally predictable and not using the team's best play-makers.

teegre
09-11-2012, 12:10 AM
Well since they got a touchdown it's not something to get worked up about.

It's more the concern over the pattern of spikes (with time enough to call a play). †

two downs < three downs †

GoFor7
09-11-2012, 12:13 AM
It's more the concern over the pattern of spikes (with time enough to call a play). †

two downs < three downs †

I know, but given some other factors in the game, the team has bigger fish to fry first.

Hawaii 5-0
09-11-2012, 01:50 AM
But run, run, pass is what Art Rooney II wants.

:deadhorse:

BowCatShot
09-11-2012, 05:02 AM
"When you look at the scoreboard they got it done, we didnít."

I remember watching Don Shula coaching the Dolphins. Like Tomlin he knew that he would never be fired. Also, like Tomlin, he took another man's team to the superbowl. Whenever the Dolphins performed poorly and lost, Shula would repeat the mantra..."we didn't get it done, we didn't get it done..." over and over. No accountability, no statement of how he would fix things, just "we didn't get it done".