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Vincent
09-22-2012, 06:54 PM
From MSNBC. In a muslim country where no other point of view is tolerated. 19 dead. Scores wounded. That we know of. In expressions of "love".

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120921-pakistan-film-protest-nj-02.photoblog900.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120921-pakistan-film-protest-nj-01.photoblog900.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120921-pakistan-film-protest-nj-04.photoblog900.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120921-pakistan-film-protest-nj-06.photoblog900.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/pb-120921-pakistan-film-protest-nj-08.photoblog900.jpg

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss-120912-embassy-protests/ss-120920-muhammad-film-protests-tease.photoblog600.jpg

From CBS...

http://i.i.com.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2012/09/21/Pakistan_152462663_620x350.jpg

ricardisimo
09-23-2012, 12:30 AM
And yet their murder rates are still dramatically lower than our own. Praise be to Jesus.

SteelCityMom
09-23-2012, 12:56 AM
I like the second picture...that dude is just like 'no thilly...this is MY gun!'

Joking aside...I'm assuming these pictures are from Pakistan, which had some pretty heated protests. Luckily, that was not the norm across Islamic nations, with many leaders calling for peaceful protests. I'm not excusing what happened here or last week, but it was good to hear many of their leaders get vocal about non violent protests.

ricardisimo
09-23-2012, 01:04 AM
I get what you're saying, Mom, but in very real terms these countries are occupied by foreign powers. Many of the same arguments that you and others use in our gun debates here apply perfectly in Pakistan, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc., much more so than they do here in the US of A. So why shouldn't they use violence?

For the record, I support non-violent protest for lots of reasons, but mainly because it works better than violent protest 90% of the time.

SteelCityMom
09-23-2012, 01:19 AM
I get what you're saying, Mom, but in very real terms these countries are occupied by foreign powers. Many of the same arguments that you and others use in our gun debates here apply perfectly in Pakistan, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, etc., much more so than they do here in the US of A. So why shouldn't they use violence?

For the record, I support non-violent protest for lots of reasons, but mainly because it works better than violent protest 90% of the time.

I would never advocate straight up violence as a means of protest. Ever. I only see it as a very last resort, and more for the protection aspect of it. I get where you're going with this, and to an extent I agree. I don't blame them for being pissed at the US. I want us out of there too. I can't remember which article it was from, but I believe it was one of the leaders from Egypt who stated that the actions of the government (US) do not reflect what the people think, and stressed non-violence and patience. He stated the same for the offense they felt about the video, that not all Americans feel that way.

I don't like that they get all worked up over a video, and consider free speech second to their own religion. But I can see where a lot of this is just becoming the straw that broke the camel's back type of reactions.

Again, not condoning any of the violence, but if our gov't could have kept to only intervening in other countries business in extreme situations (i.e. stopping genocides), then we probably wouldn't be worrying about any of this today.

ricardisimo
09-23-2012, 01:22 AM
Exactly.

Fire Haley
09-23-2012, 08:01 AM
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w1/AeveryFreeman/Muslim_Dogs_zpsceacb1b0.png

Vincent
09-24-2012, 10:03 AM
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