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Vincent
09-27-2012, 12:40 PM
Veterans: Please forward to your lists. High Priority!

More than 1,000 American soldiers have lost their lives in Afghanistan in the last 27 months. This is more than the combined total of the nine years before.

Thirty have died in August. During the last month, over 50 additional NATO and US servicemen have been murdered, inside jobs by those who are hired to be a force for good in Afghanistan.

The commander in chief is AWOL. Not a peep, although he ordered the White House flag flown at half staff for the Sikhs that were killed. There is a deep disgust, a fury, growing in the ranks of the military against the indifferent incompetence of this president.

It has taken on a dangerous tone. No one knows what to do about him, but the anger runs deep as the deaths continue with no strategic end in sight to the idiocy of this war.

Obama has had 4 years to end this futile insanity, during which time he has vacationed, golfed, campaigned, and generally ignored the plight of our men and women in uniform.

But, there is now a movement afoot in the armed services to launch a massive get out the vote drive against this president.

Not just current active duty types, but the National Guard, Reserves, the retired, and all other prior service members. This is no small special interest group, but many millions of veterans who can have an enormous impact on the outcome of the November election if they all respond.

The million military retirees in Florida alone could mean an overwhelming victory in that state if they all show up at the polls. It might not keep another one hundred U.S. troops from dying between now and November, but a turn out to vote by the military against this heart breaking lack of leadership can make a powerful statement that hastens a change to the indifference of this shallow little man who just lets our soldiers die.

Vis
09-27-2012, 01:24 PM
Veterans: Please forward to your lists. High Priority!

More than 1,000 American soldiers have lost their lives in Afghanistan in the last 27 months. This is more than the combined total of the nine years before.

Thirty have died in August. During the last month, over 50 additional NATO and US servicemen have been murdered, inside jobs by those who are hired to be a force for good in Afghanistan.

The commander in chief is AWOL. Not a peep, although he ordered the White House flag flown at half staff for the Sikhs that were killed. There is a deep disgust, a fury, growing in the ranks of the military against the indifferent incompetence of this president.

It has taken on a dangerous tone. No one knows what to do about him, but the anger runs deep as the deaths continue with no strategic end in sight to the idiocy of this war.

Obama has had 4 years to end this futile insanity, during which time he has vacationed, golfed, campaigned, and generally ignored the plight of our men and women in uniform.

But, there is now a movement afoot in the armed services to launch a massive get out the vote drive against this president.

Not just current active duty types, but the National Guard, Reserves, the retired, and all other prior service members. This is no small special interest group, but many millions of veterans who can have an enormous impact on the outcome of the November election if they all respond.

The million military retirees in Florida alone could mean an overwhelming victory in that state if they all show up at the polls. It might not keep another one hundred U.S. troops from dying between now and November, but a turn out to vote by the military against this heart breaking lack of leadership can make a powerful statement that hastens a change to the indifference of this shallow little man who just lets our soldiers die.

And yet McCain wants to stay forever and Romney wants to attack Iran. How will the GOP plan save the lives of service men and women with those ideas?

Atlanta Dan
09-27-2012, 01:26 PM
The commander in chief is AWOL. Not a peep, although he ordered the White House flag flown at half staff for the Sikhs that were killed. There is a deep disgust, a fury, growing in the ranks of the military against the indifferent incompetence of this president.


You mean the war wasn't won 8 years ago?:noidea:

Republican platform 2004

Afghanistan is liberated and the American people are safer
Today, Afghanistan is a world away from the nightmare of the Taliban. Twenty-eight million people are free. That country has a good and just president. Boys and girls are being educated. Women are respected. Many refugees have returned home to rebuild their country, and a presidential election is scheduled for this fall. The terror camps are closed and the Afghan government is helping us to hunt the Taliban and terrorists in remote regions. A threat has been removed, and the American people are safer.

http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/Republican_Party_War_+_Peace.htm

MACH1
09-27-2012, 01:26 PM
Leading from behind and denying there are such thing as terrorists. It's workplace violence and bumps in the road.

Vis
09-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Leading from behind and denying there are such thing as terrorists. It's workplace violence and bumps in the road.


Other than it being your favorite catch phrase, what do you mean, "leading from behind" as it relates to Afghanistan?

MACH1
09-27-2012, 02:33 PM
actually my favorite catch phrase is "you didn't build that!"

Vis
09-27-2012, 02:56 PM
actually my favorite catch phrase is "you didn't build that!"

"So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. Thatís how we funded the G.I. Bill. Thatís how we created the middle class. Thatís how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. Thatís how we invented the Internet. Thatís how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and thatís the reason Iím running for President -- because I still believe in that idea. Youíre not on your own, weíre in this together."

Vis
09-27-2012, 03:28 PM
Here's what should be circulated:


Sep 27 2012
Mystery Republican Blocks Cost of Living Adjustment for Disabled Veterans
Mystery Republican Blocks Cost of Living Adjustment for Disabled Veterans

(Washington, D.C.) – Today, U.S. Senator Patty Murray, Chairman of the Senate Veteran’s Affairs Committee, announced that an as yet unnamed Senate Republican has blocked a traditionally non-controversial bill that would provide over 3.9 million veterans and their survivors with a Cost-of-Living Adjustment (COLA) for the benefits they receive. The COLA increase, which is designed to offset inflation and other factors that lead to the rising cost of living, was brought to the Senate floor by Senator Murray last Thursday. The bill was cleared by all Senate Democrats but was blocked by at least one Senate Republican that has not come forward to claim responsibility.

“This is stunning” said Senator Murray. “Particularly because we still don’t have any indication why someone would block a cost-of-living adjustment for veterans and their surviving spouses, many of whom are struggling to make ends meet. This adjustment for our disabled veterans is hard earned and well deserved. My hope is that whichever Senator has decided to hold up this bill will at least come forward to own up to it. That way we can move forward to overcome their opposition and get our veterans the support they need.”

The Veterans COLA will affect several important benefits, including veterans’ disability compensation and dependency and indemnity compensation for surviving spouses and children. The COLA rate will match the annual increase provided to Social Security recipients and is based on the Bureau of Labor Statistics Consumer Price Index.

While it is one senator who requested the hold, Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republican leadership had to be notified of his intention to prevent a bill that would have provided a cost of living adjustment for disabled veterans, surviving spouses and children of members of our military who died while serving their country.

steelax04
09-27-2012, 04:29 PM
Note: Not directed at this thread or specific posts... just an observation of how things are going in general in this country...

This back and forth of "who is worse" is total bullshit. Both sides are ****-ups and really aren't that much different right now. Voting 33 times to repeal the Affordable Care Act?!? Seriously? Move on and get some real ****ing work done. If I brought the same idea to my boss 33 times in a year, my ass would be fired!

"Waste" your vote on someone different, like Gary Johnson, Ron Paul (I know he's not on the ballot, just saying...), etc that may actually have a shot at bringing actual change. Even if it's not change with legislation, it will be change with the status quo thinking of the American people of who "should" be in office (Rep or Dem).

Then again, I may just be too optimistic and the American people really are that blind and dumb. Bitch and complain about governement, politicians, etc and have a huge opportunity to show we won't stand for it anymore, but it will still be the same old Republican and Democrat party going on in Washington. We (the American people) have nobody to blame but ourselves. That's what the majority of people don't see... we got ourselves into this mess and we have a glowing opportunity to get ourselves out of it. /rant

Vincent
09-27-2012, 05:14 PM
This back and forth of "who is worse" is total bullshit. Both sides are ****-ups and really aren't that much different right now.

Au contraire...

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Atlanta Dan
09-28-2012, 12:17 PM
Note: Not directed at this thread or specific posts... just an observation of how things are going in general in this country...

This back and forth of "who is worse" is total bullshit.

Not disagreeing with you that there has to be a better way to conduct a campaign, but slinging the campaign mud is a tradition going back to the Founding Fathers.


As bad as this election may seem, it is hardly original in its biliousness. Its protagonists often appear to be reading from a borrowed script, delivering lackluster renditions of the truly inspired negative campaign tactics that have made American politics a blood sport from the start....

Compared to the elections of 1796 and 1800, this contest has all the inter-religious animosity of a Lutheran versus Methodist slow pitch softball game. In the earliest of the nation’s two-party elections, the match-up of John Adams and Thomas Jefferson gave voters a choice, according to Adams supporters, between “God and a religious president, or Jefferson and no God!” The pious allegedly buried Bibles in their gardens, in fear that President Jefferson would gather holy books for the pyre upon inauguration.

Jefferson versus Adams may also have the dubious distinction of being the first time the so-called race card was played. Even then, Jefferson’s rivals circulated rumors of his relationship with an enslaved woman ... Jefferson, the target of more conspiracy theories than even Donald Trump could shill, was later said to be "a mean-spirited, low-lived fellow, the son of a half-breed Indian squaw, sired by a Virginia mulatto father, as was well known in the neighborhood where he was raised."...

While some have drawn a parallel between the hidden camera tactics behind Romney’s 47 percent video and James O’Keefe’s stealth attack portraying Acorn as an enabler of prostitution, [Andrew] Jackson supporters charged that Old Hickory’s rival for the White House, the incumbent John Quincy Adams, was an actual pimp. Adams was charged with supplying an American woman to the czar when he was minister to Russia years earlier. Adams’s supporters in turn accused Jackson of bigamy....

The moral character — and intimate entanglements — of the candidates has been a common front in the battle of for the presidency. In 1884 Grover Cleveland famously dealt with taunts of “Ma, Ma, where’s my pa?” when news spread that he had fathered a child with a woman to whom he was not married.

Less well known is a counter-rumor that circulated about Cleveland’s opponent, James G. Blaine. Hitting the supposedly morally superior Blaine where he lived, Cleveland supporters claimed that Blaine’s first-born son, who had died as a toddler 30 years before, had been conceived before Blaine and his wife were married. In an apparent attempt to make it seem as if Blaine was hiding something, vandals chiseled the date of the child’s birth from his grave.

http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/27/is-this-the-nastiest-election-ever/

The more things change the more they stay the same