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Steelers5895
10-07-2012, 07:31 PM
Now this was the type of game I expect out of Timmons at least 8-10 games a season and in every playoff game. he was disruptivde even in the plays he was over agressive and missed the tackle or sack.

Lets hope he continues as he was heading to bust status.

lardlad
10-07-2012, 08:07 PM
If he figures out a way to not allow his speed to take him out of the play, he's the best lb on the team.

harrison'samonster
10-07-2012, 08:38 PM
I was very happy with his performance today. And you're right, this type of game should be the norm for him, not the highlight of his season.

Curtain_of_Steel
10-07-2012, 09:10 PM
No, finally Dick used him the way he shouldve used him. Having Harrison there provides a huge boost over Woodley being there. Worilds is way better suited in place of Woodley, and Harrison provides the kick in the ass that is needed.

Timmons hasnt changes, its how they use him. This is how they should use him.

yeckley92
10-07-2012, 09:15 PM
Agree 100%

jiminpa
10-07-2012, 09:21 PM
No, finally Dick used him the way he shouldve used him. Having Harrison there provides a huge boost over Woodley being there. Worilds is way better suited in place of Woodley, and Harrison provides the kick in the ass that is needed.

Timmons hasnt changes, its how they use him. This is how they should use him.But if Harrison isn't there they need Timmons to drop back. Today they could drop either one back without fear. That kept the offense guessing who is coming, which is the advantage of the 3-4. The fourth rusher can be anyone or no one.

Curtain_of_Steel
10-07-2012, 10:40 PM
That was my point, people here argue Timmons hasnt done anything this year. Well he hasn't been able to, as he is covering everyones ass because they are hurt.

Now Woodley is hurt again. Which i think can be over come if Harrison is out there. The other way around i think its not as easy to maintain pressure.

defence
10-07-2012, 10:48 PM
Timmons was great today. But I really saw today how slow Foote is and i believe that is the real problem in the middle. I wish we had another option there; because Timmons would really shine. One other note. I've been pretty hard on Woirlds; but he filled in nicely today for woodley. Hope he can keep that going.

Steelersfan87
10-07-2012, 11:05 PM
McCoy only had 3.3 yards per carry and Foote had 8 tackles. I really don't think he's been to blame for much defensively so far this year. Also, agreed on Worilds. He had his best game of the year so far.

Hawaii 5-0
10-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Timmons was great today. But I really saw today how slow Foote is and i believe that is the real problem in the middle. I wish we had another option there; because Timmons would really shine. One other note. I've been pretty hard on Woirlds; but he filled in nicely today for woodley. Hope he can keep that going.


I would love to see us draft either ILBs Kevin Minter from LSU or Manti Te'o from Notre Dame in next year's draft to be the eventual successor to Larry Foote who will be 33 years old next season. I actually think Larry Foote has been one of our better defensive players so far this season, but he's not getting any younger or faster.

as for Jason Worilds, today was by far the best I have ever seen him play. it sure would be nice to see him continue to build on today's performance and become the clear successor to James Harrison.

defence
10-07-2012, 11:30 PM
I would love to see us draft either ILBs Kevin Minter from LSU or Manti Te'o from Notre Dame in next year's draft to be the eventual successor to Larry Foote who will be 33 years old next season. I actually think Larry Foote has been one of our better defensive players so far this season, but he's not getting any younger or faster.

as for Jason Worilds, today was by far the best I have ever seen him play. it sure would be nice to see him continue to build on today's performance and become the clear successor to James Harrison.

I agree Foote has been consistent; but maybe watching Timmons turn it up a notch; he just looked really slow. Not throwing him under the bus; but i believe if they had someone comparable to Timmons in the middle; Timmons would be a monster.

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-07-2012, 11:58 PM
Timmons was able to scrape to the RB on some stretch plays, he blitzed well. Foote continued to show me that he is a backup who is forced to play because of lack of drafting a suitable replacement.

Hawaii 5-0
10-08-2012, 12:06 AM
Timmons is Digest Player of Week

by Bob Labriola
Steelers Digest

http://prod.static.steelers.clubs.nfl.com//assets/images/imported/PIT/photos/2012-Game-Day/10_7_vs_Philadelphia/Timmons04_vs_Eagles_10072012.jpg

Leading up to the game against the Philadelphia Eagles, two of the tasks facing the Steelers defense were to control RB LeSean McCoy and get pressure on QB Michael Vick without allowing him to break contain.

Lawrence Timmons had a hand in both of those things.

The Steelers limited McCoy to 53 yards on 16 carries (3.3 average), sacked Vick three times, hit him eight times and recovered two of his fumbles along the way to a 16-14 win at Heinz Field.

Timmons led the Steelers with nine tackles, including two for loss, he hit Vick twice and forced a fumble, and it was his penetration on a first half play that helped Ziggy Hood get his sack. Timmons is the Steelers Digest Player of the Week.

Also considered were Rashard Mendenhall, who managed to look like he was in midseason form even though this was his first game action of any kind since New Year’s Day in Cleveland. Mendenhall finished with 81 yards rushing (5.8 average) that included a 13-yard touchdown to go along with two catches for 20 more yards; Ben Roethlisberger, whose 72.7 passer rating on the day was skewed by too many drops by his receivers; Larry Foote, who had eight tackles and recovered two fumbles, including one in the end zone for a touchback; and Jason Worilds, who had a sack, two tackles for loss, and two hits on Vick.

http://www.steelers.com/news/article-1/Timmons-is-Digest-Player-of-Week/fc04d317-7122-42e4-b778-d6ffea13a6b3

Fire Haley
10-08-2012, 06:29 AM
"Timmons Unleashes Hell"


Steelers linebacker Timmons torches Eagles

All eyes were on linebacker James Harrison as he made his season debut Sunday at Heinz Field.

Most everyone was anxious to see if his surgically repaired knee would hold up against the Philadelphia Eagles.

However, with the Steelers in a somewhat must-win predicament, it was oft-maligned linebacker Lawrence Timmons who stepped up in leading the Steelers to a come-from-behind 16-14 victory.

Timmons led the Steelers with nine tackles (eight solo). He had two tackles for a loss and two quarterback hits. Not a bad effort considering Timmons had 12 tackles through the first three games.

Timmons unleashed the fiery, caged lion muzzled at times by undersized running backs. He looked like a big cat chasing down prey, often tossing aside Philadelphia’s mammoth offensive linemen while in pursuit of quarterback Michael Vick and former Pitt running back LeSean McCoy.

Timmons consistently harassed Vick before stripping him of the ball late in the second quarter at the Eagles 34.

“I wanted to show a lot of effort out there,” Timmons said. “Our coaches did a good job in pregame, and it carried over into the game. We did a good job of keeping (Vick) bottled up.”

Perhaps it was the return of Harrison and safety Troy Polamalu that inspired Timmons. But he seemed to find another gear when Polamalu limped off the field after aggravating his sore calf.
The pressure mounted when outside linebacker LaMarr Woodley was sidelined in the second quarter with a right hamstring injury.

Timmons altered the Eagles’ game plan as he often disrupted their timing by either flushing Vick from the pocket or sealing the middle of the Steelers’ defense, which was gutted by Oakland’s Darren McFadden in a 34-31 loss two weeks ago.

“Our defense stood up today,” Timmons said. “A good team is always defined by how they do after a loss. The energy we were playing with, running to the ball, that’s what it’s all about.

“In the first half they had me on the back. In the second half, the center or the guard came out on me, but they blitzed me outside and I still got some pressure.

“We just didn’t want Vick to get comfortable because he can hurt you downfield.”

Defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau dialed up myriad blitz schemes. They all somehow involved Timmons, who several times shot gaps to rattle Vick.

“I’ll say, compared to the last game, I was around the ball more,” Timmons said. “Our defensive line did a good job of containment (on Vick).”

It may have been business as usual for Timmons, but defensive end Ziggy Hood was quick to notice that Timmons was determined to influence the game’s outcome.

“It gave us energy to see (Timmons) balling like that,” Hood said. “He did his job. He had a Pro Bowl-caliber game. The man played hard, and as a defense we fed from it.”
Added safety Ryan Mundy: “Somebody is going to always provide that spark of energy. It was Lawrence today.”

Linebacker Larry Foote said the Steelers are likely to turn loose Timmons when the Steelers play in Tennessee Thursday night.

“I know a lot of people put a lot of heat on him to make big splash plays,” Foote said, “but if you come in to watch film, he’s one of the best players on our defense.”

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2734543-85/timmons-steelers-vick-game-linebacker-eagles-defense-job-tackles-ball#axzz28f2BIAtK

Curtain_of_Steel
10-08-2012, 08:10 AM
Well dick finally found the viagra to get the def to work. However keep in mind they allowed Vick to drive them down the field and score, this is becoming a boner of contention with Dick. They need to stop relaxing back. Also it doesn't help that Ike sucks so bad that he is fast becoming a huge liability on def. Instead of trying to find 1 CB in the off season we need 2. This guy is going to put up 15 penalties plus by years end.

Harrison is the key, withoutot without Woodley on the field, Harrison make the D play differently.

Foote played great, Im not a foot kind of guy, but I thought he played a great game, had pressure, fumble recovery etc.

grward
10-08-2012, 08:59 AM
Well dick finally found the viagra to get the def to work. However keep in mind they allowed Vick to drive them down the field and score, this is becoming a boner of contention with Dick. They need to stop relaxing back.

Holding Vick to only two scores is pretty darn good IMO. The last score was disappointing to me but only because on the first of two fourth downs, Timmons had two hands on the back in the back field. But honestly, if before the game, someone said the Eagles will only score 14 points, would you even THINK we could lose?

Bayz101
10-08-2012, 09:04 AM
Well dick finally found the viagra to get the def to work. However keep in mind they allowed Vick to drive them down the field and score, this is becoming a boner of contention with Dick. They need to stop relaxing back. Also it doesn't help that Ike sucks so bad that he is fast becoming a huge liability on def. Instead of trying to find 1 CB in the off season we need 2. This guy is going to put up 15 penalties plus by years end.

Harrison is the key, withoutot without Woodley on the field, Harrison make the D play differently.

Foote played great, Im not a foot kind of guy, but I thought he played a great game, had pressure, fumble recovery etc.

http://static3.fjcdn.com/comments/Ba-dum+tss+_c6d58579b79de5a0b9acf90f44e3bcfb.jpg

lloydwoodson
10-08-2012, 11:39 AM
Timmons is a much better player than Foote. Foote is a liability in coverage and can't tackle in the open field. Every game he gets completely turned around in the open field and doesn't get a hand on the ball carrier. Unlike most people I don't judge the two based on tackles for a couple reasons- namely tackles stats are not kept by the NFL but by the teams themselves, and Timmons constantly draws man coverage assignments which he does extremely well.

Go look at the numbers Foote put up when he started at Timmons position, and then come back and apologize for your ridiculous statements about how great Foote is. Foote posted 63 combined tackles the last year he started at Timmons position- that is... if you want to look at meaningless tackle stats.

Edman
10-08-2012, 12:16 PM
More like Timmons was taken off of the leash and they finally let him play his game. Timmons can play like this. The problem is that Lebeau barely lets him.

If you hold an Offense to 14 points, it's a good game for the Defense. The problem is that our Offense stumbled for 16.

TheVet
10-08-2012, 06:07 PM
Love seeing Timmons play like that!!!

jiminpa
10-08-2012, 07:35 PM
More like Timmons was taken off of the leash and they finally let him play his game. Timmons can play like this. The problem is that Lebeau barely lets him.

If you hold an Offense to 14 points, it's a good game for the Defense. The problem is that our Offense stumbled for 16.I'm not sure Lebeau has much choice. Like Troy without Clark, Timmons without Harrison is needed to just play his position. Lebeau has been wanting to use Timmons like he uses Troy for years.

teegre
10-08-2012, 07:48 PM
I'm not sure Lebeau has much choice. Like Troy without Clark, Timmons without Harrison is needed to just play his position. Lebeau has been wanting to use Timmons like he uses Troy for years.

Close.
I'd say it's more like Timmons needs an ILB, just as Troy needs Clark.

Foote has played very well... and in turn, Timmons can play more aggressively.

MillerMania83
10-08-2012, 11:25 PM
Just wanted to say THANK YOU to Lawrence Timmons...For putting a HUGE smile on my face Sunday afternoon with that OUSTANDING performance he had against the Eagles....Thats what many of us were waiting for and he showed he has 'it' to be a BEAST out there if he wants to be....Hoping to see him all over the field making plays a causing havoc the rest of the year, cuz that sure would be nice and really really help this team as the weeks move on.

JVip
10-09-2012, 02:46 AM
Hopefully Timmons can continue to play at this level the remainder of the year. I think next year will truly be his year to shine though. With the addition of Spence, Timmons will be able to freelance more next year, he may possibly fill that role this year too. With Spences ability to cover it will free up Lebeau (or Butler) to use him more creatively, like they do Troy.

Obviously we need to draft a LB or 2, but I think Spence will be a starter next year.

Hawaii 5-0
10-09-2012, 03:36 AM
Obviously we need to draft a LB or 2, but I think Spence will be a starter next year.

assuming that Spence fully recovers from his injury, of course...

Rick5895
10-09-2012, 04:47 AM
Timmons was able to scrape to the RB on some stretch plays, he blitzed well. Foote continued to show me that he is a backup who is forced to play because of lack of drafting a suitable replacement.

I think Foote is playing well, but I believe the eventual replacement was drafted this past draft.....Sean Spence, just so happens he was injured in preseason. I would love to see Spence (at full strength) playing side by side with Timmons. I do agree however that Te'o of Notre Dame would be a nice fit. Better draft a safety though ( Ilike Elan of Florida)

maddog78
10-09-2012, 08:12 AM
No, finally Dick used him the way he shouldve used him. Having Harrison there provides a huge boost over Woodley being there. Worilds is way better suited in place of Woodley, and Harrison provides the kick in the ass that is needed.

Timmons hasnt changes, its how they use him. This is how they should use him.

It's not the first time he's played with Harrison, and it was probably the best game of his career. Something else is going on.

I think they dumbed down his responsibilities, something I think the entire defense needs a dose of.

Rookies start and contribute on good teams in this league, but it takes years to master our Zen defense. Great if everyone stays on course and healthy, but when you lose guys like we did last year, you get the defensive performance you got in Denver in January. A bunch of young guys unprepared to play.

jiminpa
10-09-2012, 10:05 AM
Close.
I'd say it's more like Timmons needs an ILB, just as Troy needs Clark.

Foote has played very well... and in turn, Timmons can play more aggressively.
You may be right. I was thinking more in terms of pass coverage in the flat. Timmons and Harrison are the best coverage LBs on the team. Sunday they could pick which one to drop and which one to rush.

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-09-2012, 10:14 AM
I think Foote is playing well, but I believe the eventual replacement was drafted this past draft.....Sean Spence, just so happens he was injured in preseason. I would love to see Spence (at full strength) playing side by side with Timmons. I do agree however that Te'o of Notre Dame would be a nice fit. Better draft a safety though ( Ilike Elan of Florida)

So you have been watching Notre Dame games on NBC a lot huh. Te'o is an instinctive player that lacks the speed and I am guessing the combine will show his lack of quickness in a short shuttle.

He could play the strongside in a 3-4, but I think many would see that he is probably a 2 down ILB. If he is there in the 3rd round, it might be decent value....and that may be a stretch.

Jpeezyiseternal
10-09-2012, 02:39 PM
for real!

maybe if we keep up all the "why the **** did we give this guy the big money" talk he'll keep stepping his game up

Steelers5895
10-09-2012, 08:20 PM
I dont buy the "because Harrison was in the line up" reason. Harrison has been there most of Timmons career and Timmons only had 3-5 games in his career like Sunday. Most have been mediocre or below

maddog78
10-10-2012, 12:35 AM
I dont buy the "because Harrison was in the line up" reason. Harrison has been there most of Timmons career and Timmons only had 3-5 games in his career like Sunday. Most have been mediocre or below

Agreed. I think they honestly dumbed things down for him, which is not an insult. LeBeau's defense, I think, can be overly complex. Let the athletes be athletes and not deep thinkers.

Whatever they did, hope they keep it up. If LT plays like that every week, he's a Pro Bowler.