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steelerchad
10-14-2012, 06:51 PM
With Taamu's arrest and pending departure from this team, what looked like a very promising draft has produced basically no help this season. They could still have some future stars, but not 1 contributor from the draft this year. Total dissapointment. I looked at that draft and thought we'd have 2 starters on the offensive line, a nickel LBer, a rotational NT, a returner/3rd down back all helping out this season.

TRH
10-14-2012, 06:58 PM
Whats especially disappointing to me is seeing SO many picks in the top 5 all around the NFL this year already making big, big impacts. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Meanwhile, we're saddled with injuries and an arrest and pending jail time (and release) of Ta'amu...whom i initially thought was our "steal" of this years draft.

Rick5895
10-14-2012, 07:22 PM
5 games into the "rookie" season and this class is a disappointments. WOW!
You can't predict injuries, Adams was drafted for depth. These drafts usually take a couple of years to determine success or failure. My bet this will be hailed as a very good draft for years to come.

harrison'samonster
10-14-2012, 08:00 PM
Rookie's for us is like what they say about offensive linemen--the less we hear their name the better.

TRH
10-14-2012, 08:04 PM
5 games into the "rookie" season and this class is a disappointments. WOW!
You can't predict injuries, Adams was drafted for depth. These drafts usually take a couple of years to determine success or failure. My bet this will be hailed as a very good draft for years to come.


I think the DeCastro injury really just killed everybody....he's a monster who was going to go right in and make an impact from Day 1. That injury deflated the hell out of everybody.
I think people are going to be patient with Adams. He won't take long. This Ta'amu thing is so bad that people are starting to pull their hair out when you combine it with the disappointing start to the season. It will be a nice jolt to everyone's psyche when the Steelers release this no-good POS.

Atlanta Dan
10-14-2012, 08:16 PM
. It will be a nice jolt to everyone's psyche when the Steelers release this no-good POS.

Agreed - injuries happen and cannot be predicted, but ith regard to Ta'amu he has been a disappointment since camp.

In hindsight his drop to the 4th round may have been an indication that other teams saw problems (not that he would go crazy - just skill set) the Steelers were willing to tolerate in atttempting to get a steal at NT through the draft

steelerchad
10-14-2012, 08:17 PM
5 games into the "rookie" season and this class is a disappointments. WOW!
You can't predict injuries, Adams was drafted for depth. These drafts usually take a couple of years to determine success or failure. My bet this will be hailed as a very good draft for years to come.

I said this draft could still have future stars, but this year is clearly a disappointment. No help at all from any of the rookies. Sure you can't predict injuries, doesn't mean they're not disappointing when they happen.

Yeah, this draft class was very disappointing imo, as I had high hopes for help at key spots this year.

Steel_Bus_24
10-14-2012, 08:56 PM
5 games into the "rookie" season and this class is a disappointments. WOW!
You can't predict injuries, Adams was drafted for depth. These drafts usually take a couple of years to determine success or failure. My bet this will be hailed as a very good draft for years to come.

Adams wasn't drafted for depth, before the pre-season they intended for him to start at LT....Max Starks wasn't even on the roster

Adams level of suck thus far has taken them aback. They've been scared as hell of him
when hes been in there......All those Bubble screens last Thursday was a direct result of Adams presence

I hope they can work some voodoo on him.....but he's looking more like a 4th or 5th round project then a stud that we stole in the 2nd

TRH
10-14-2012, 09:39 PM
Adams wasn't drafted for depth, before the pre-season they intended for him to start at LT....Max Starks wasn't even on the roster

Adams level of suck thus far has taken them aback. They've been scared as hell of him
when hes been in there......All those Bubble screens last Thursday was a direct result of Adams presence

I hope they can work some voodoo on him.....but he's looking more like a 4th or 5th round project then a stud that we stole in the 2nd


I still have high hopes for Adams to develop into a potential great lineman (though it might take a bit longer than they initially figured). DeCastro should be a monster when he gets back healthy.

I think some people here have mistaken other's "disappointing draft so far" comments.
Yes - its been disappointing (injuries, this arrest, etc...) I don't think anyone can argue that.
But that doesn't mean they think the draft "sucked".

bornaSteelersfan
10-15-2012, 12:11 AM
After the draft, everyone here was very optimistic. Many of us couldn't wait for the season to begin. Now I think many of us are getting to the point where we just want it to end. To say Ta'amu was a bust (busted) at this point is now a major understatement. I still have hope for DeCastro, Spence, and Rainey to be big contributors. We won't see that until next season. Can we "fast forward" this one like I do on NFL rewind?

uclkyle
10-15-2012, 12:38 AM
I haven't been impressed with any of Mike Tomlin's drafts

Darkstorm05
10-15-2012, 10:16 AM
Injuries on the line are a self fulfilling prophecy of sorts. When the guys beside you start collapsing, rolling on you, etc., it opens you up to injury. We keep getting guys who let their section of the line get pushed back, leaving the good lineman hanging in space trying to take up the slack. Then the losers get rolled and we have injuries.

caseydog
10-15-2012, 12:45 PM
Counting on rookies to get a team to the Super Bowl is not gonna get it done. A couple of strong rookies mixed in with a bunch of strong veterans is okay, but you can't expect rookies to carry too much of the load.

CD

Hawaii 5-0
10-15-2012, 03:19 PM
Report: Mike Adams To Start At Right Tackle Against Bengals

Monday, October 15th, 2012 by Dave Bryan

Pittsburgh Steelers rookie tackle Mike Adams said on Monday that he will start at right tackle next Sunday night against the Cincinnati Bengals, according to Mike Prisuta of DVE Radio.

It was reported earlier in the day that starter Marcus Gilbert was spotted with his right foot in a boot after injuring it Thursday night in the loss to the Tennessee Titans. Gilbert posted Monday afternoon on Twitter that he was on a plane heading somewhere, so we can only speculate that he might be headed to see a specialist for his injury.

If indeed Gilbert is out for a while, we could see the Steelers make a roster move as early as Tuesday. The only other tackle on the roster is rookie Kelvin Beachum, who appears likely to dress now against the Bengals.

The Steelers have two offensive linemen on their practice squad in the form of John Malecki and Ryan Lee, but both are interior linemen type. Right guard Ramon Foster did get some snaps at right tackle during the preseason and left guard Willie Colon was previously a right tackle before moving inside this season.

We will have to see what head coach Mike Tomlin says about all of this on Tuesday, but it is apparent that Gilbert could be down for a while.

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2012/10/report-mike-adams-to-start-at-right-tackle-against-bengals/

teegre
10-15-2012, 04:15 PM
I haven't been impressed with any of Mike Tomlin's drafts

Why not?

The 2008 draft was horrible. But, every other draft has been pretty solid. Two starters in a draft is a good draft. Keeping two other players (back-ups), is a good draft. That's four per year...

2007:
Timmons - eh
Woodley - Pro-Bowl
Speath - a few decent years
Gay - underappreciated

2008:
Droppy Mendenspin - Good, but not great

2009:
Hood - underwhelming
Wallace - home run!!!
Lewis - eh
DJ Johnson - decent TE

2010:
Pouncey - All-Pro
Worilds - eh
Sanders - good pick
Sylvester - who knows
Dwyer - good pick
Brown - home run!!!

2011:
Heyward - I'd like to see him start/I see promise
Gilbert - looked good as a rookie
Brown - disappointment thus far
Allen - great pick
Carter - eh
Batch - good pick

2012:
DD - injured, but will be great
Adams - we'll see
Spence - injured, but will be really good
Ta'amu - shirtless
Rainey - I foresee a Sproles-esque type of career
Paulson - seems like a good, developmental player
Beachum - we'll see

Fire Arians
10-15-2012, 04:26 PM
spence and decastro injuries were a huge blow to how excited i was for this season. I thought those 2 would be immediate contributors. hopefully spence makes a full recovery and we can see more of him next year. him and timmons on the field at the same time would give us crazy speed at the inside backer positions and make it difficult to work the middle of the field vs the D

jury is still out on adams, tackle position is a lot harder to adjust to in the NFL.

rainey and paulson are looking good so far, I wouldn't mind seeing them get more reps. rainey had a nice kickoff return last week

ta'amu = huge disappointment, surprised if he stays on the team.

beachum if he even makes the roster as a backup, that's solid for a 7th rounder.

FrancoLambert
10-15-2012, 05:47 PM
With regards to Adams starting for Gilbert.
Gilbert to Adams: "All right Mike, this is what you do to take your own man out."
"You'll get more playing time."

Hawaii 5-0
10-15-2012, 07:26 PM
With regards to Adams starting for Gilbert.
Gilbert to Adams: "All right Mike, this is what you do to take your own man out."
"You'll get more playing time."

:chuckle:

Steel_Bus_24
10-15-2012, 07:32 PM
With Gilbert its other O-Line we have to worry about getting taken out....


With Adams its Ben getting taken out that scares me.

I predict about 30,000 bubble screens on SNF

teegre
10-15-2012, 07:35 PM
With Gilbert its other O-Line we have to worry about getting taken out....


With Adams its Ben getting taken out that scares me.

True.

Ergo, the easiest thing for a young OT to do, is run block. I say run right, all game long. It will ease up that side of the line. Then, play-action to the right side... and, in turn, Adams will have a hesitant defender in front of him (if only for a split second), which will mean, most importantly, BB will not be hit from that side (& complete some passes).

tanda10506
10-15-2012, 09:31 PM
I haven't been impressed with any of Mike Tomlin's drafts

We've had some good one's (Brown, Timmons, Pouncey) and some that will likely turn out well (Gilbert, Rainey, DD, Spence, Wallace), it just seems bad because they have all been mediocre at best on defense. Timmons is the best player Tomlin has drafted on defense, he's coming on strong now but he's been inconsistant, and it's a far drop off from him as it stands now. So he's added some talent on offense (still not completely proven) but totaly s*** the bed on defense. What makes it look even worse is that even though talent continues to be added to the offense, the offense continues to struggle. If we continue down the path we are on, the impact of the 2012 and 2013 draft classes will determine how long Tomlin is here IMO.

maddog78
10-15-2012, 10:17 PM
Very rarely does a draft class make an instant impact. Swann and Stallworth combined for 27 catches in 1974. Mike Webster started one game in 1974 and one game in 1975.

Hawaii 5-0
10-16-2012, 02:18 AM
Very rarely does a draft class make an instant impact. Swann and Stallworth combined for 27 catches in 1974. Mike Webster started one game in 1974 and one game in 1975.

that's because it took them several years to learn Dick LeBeau's complex defensive schemes.

oh wait...:sofunny:

casteeler
10-16-2012, 05:18 PM
5 games into the "rookie" season and this class is a disappointments. WOW!
You can't predict injuries, Adams was drafted for depth. These drafts usually take a couple of years to determine success or failure. My bet this will be hailed as a very good draft for years to come.

Adams was drafted for depth? You don't buy new tires to replace your bald one and let them sit in the garage. The Steelers need right now Linemen

tanda10506
10-16-2012, 05:55 PM
Adams was drafted for depth? You don't buy new tires to replace your bald one and let them sit in the garage. The Steelers need right now Linemen

This^

Fire Arians
10-16-2012, 06:15 PM
that's because it took them several years to learn Dick LeBeau's complex defensive schemes.

oh wait...:sofunny:

:chuckle:

tony hipchest
10-16-2012, 06:20 PM
Adams was drafted for depth? You don't buy new tires to replace your bald one and let them sit in the garage. The Steelers need right now Linemenjust like with this season, steelerfans went into full blown panic mode when adams had a bad practice or two and 2 sub par pre-season games.

:willy:

Hawaii 5-0
10-16-2012, 06:34 PM
just like with this season, steelerfans went into full blown panic mode when adams had a bad practice or two and 2 sub par pre-season games.

:willy:

and just like Troy Polamalu when he didn't do well right way his rookie season, Adams should have been cut right then and there...:panic:

LayingTheWoodley56
10-16-2012, 06:54 PM
Let's not get ahead of ourselves and already declare this year's draft a "bust." It's been only 5 games. Decastro hasn't played a meaningful snap, and we're hoping he will be back before the season is out. Adams, we will see this weekend because I'd imagine he'll be starting for Gilbert, correct? Spence was cut down before he got a chance. Ta'amu? Um........I was expecting some big plays out of Rainey after watching him in the preseason, he has yet to fulfill that promise. Looks a tad small perhaps. Let's not forget David Paulson, who has not made any glaring errors while on the field this season as a 7th-rounder and made a nice block to allow Mendy to get into the end zone against the Eagles.

surcalifero
10-16-2012, 08:04 PM
Adams was a waste of a pick. With the soon departure of Ta'amu, we will certainly address NT with the first pick of next yrs draft.

Fire Arians
10-16-2012, 08:07 PM
Adams was a waste of a pick. With the soon departure of Ta'amu, we will certainly address NT with the first pick of next yrs draft.

come on man

casteeler
10-16-2012, 11:32 PM
just like with this season, steelerfans went into full blown panic mode when adams had a bad practice or two and 2 sub par pre-season games.

:willy:

The guy looked like a speed bump and they pulled him after 3 snaps. I agree that players need time to develop but not at the risk of losing your franchise QB

El-Gonzo Jackson
10-17-2012, 08:02 AM
The guy looked like a speed bump and they pulled him after 3 snaps. I agree that players need time to develop but not at the risk of losing your franchise QB

I've seen Adams get some reps at RT this season and he has looked fine. Good feet, good hand placement, but just not getting a good punch and extending to get the rusher away from him.

I said when drafted it would be good for him to get a season at RT before switching him to LT, but all the front office fanboy whiners kept complaining that the guy was a LT and should be placed there. Marvel Smith, Max Starks, Joe Thomas, Michael Oher, etc. all played RT before moving over to LT in the NFL

Adams will be fine.

surcalifero
10-17-2012, 12:43 PM
come on man

Im keepin it real bro. No need to come on as fake.

Fire Arians
10-17-2012, 01:17 PM
Im keepin it real bro. No need to come on as fake.

just saying LT is not an easy position for a rookie. jake long and orlando pace are the only tackles i've seen come straight from college to play LT and kill it. they were also #1 picks

Lord of Lombardi
10-18-2012, 09:12 AM
Whats especially disappointing to me is seeing SO many picks in the top 5 all around the NFL this year already making big, big impacts. It makes me sick to my stomach.

Meanwhile, we're saddled with injuries and an arrest and pending jail time (and release) of Ta'amu...whom i initially thought was our "steal" of this years draft.

And just what exactly does that Top 5 stat have to do wtih anything? Unless the Steelers drafted in the top 5? Makes no sense. You can't prevent injuries. Drinking and being an idiot yes. You owe me 3 minutes of my life back.

Hawaii 5-0
10-18-2012, 02:10 PM
Steelers rookie offensive tackle Mike Adams quickly finding footing on patchwork line

Published October 18, 2012
Associated Press

PITTSBURGH Mike Adams was standing on the sideline, minding his own business when his NFL career got a kick-start.

A minute after Pittsburgh Steelers starting right tackle Marcus Gilbert went down with a hyperextended right knee early in the season opener against the Broncos, Adams found himself lining up across the line from Denver's all-everything linebacker, Von Miller.

Gulp.

"I didn't expect it, but you've got to be ready to play whenever," Adams said. "It was a pretty cool experience."

One that included some very public growing pains as Adams and the rest of the offensive line were roughed up late in a 31-19 loss. The film session was long and painful, with offensive line coach Sean Kugler giving the second-round draft pick out of Ohio State some very pointed criticism.

The talk was a watershed moment for a player not known as a workaholic during his time with the Buckeyes. Adams responded with a tenacity that proved to the guys lining up next to him he was serious about this whole NFL deal.

Good thing considering Adams will make his first start Sunday when Pittsburgh (2-3) travels to Cincinnati (3-3). Gilbert is out indefinitely with an ankle injury.

"Mike's day-to-day stuff has changed a whole lot," Pittsburgh guard Ramon Foster said. "He's more in tune to what's going on. Not to sound bad, but him getting embarrassed like (in Denver) kind of woke him up a little bit. He got chewed out pretty good and he's come back pretty strong from it."

The massive 6-foot-7, 323-pound Adams has long had the athletic ability to flourish. The only concerns were about his attitude. He acknowledged flunking a drug test just before the NFL combine last spring and was suspended a handful of games during his final season at Ohio State for his role in the scandal that eventually led to coach Jim Tressel's dismissal.

Adams pledged during minicamp that he'd put his troubled past firmly behind him and he's backed it up by becoming an eager student of the game. Following practice on Wednesday Adams joined starting left tackle Max Starks and rookie Kelvin Beachum for extra reps taking whacks at a heavy bag at one end of the practice field.

It's a ritual that Adams has joined in repeatedly since training camp, and with his huge wingspan he swatted the bag around like a toddler playing with a favorite toy. On Sunday, that bag will morph into Cincinnati defensive end Carlos Dunlap, who is part of a unit that is second in the NFL with 21 sacks.

No pressure or anything, though Adams pointed to Dunlap's 6-6 frame as something he can get a handle on better than the smaller, speedier Miller. Besides, just about anything Adams faces in a game will be easier than the time he's spent over the last month trying to block James Harrison or LaMarr Woodley in practice.

"When you're going against two of the best in the world, it's easy to learn fast," Adams said. "They're great vets. They teach me things on the go."

The Steelers pride themselves on the way they bring each other along, and Adams doesn't need to look too far for someone who knows exactly what he's going through. A year ago, Gilbert was a rookie tackle thrust into the starting lineup by injury. By the end of the season, he was starting on merit.

Adams said he and Gilbert are "close" and it's clear the team intends to have the two serve as bookend tackles at some point down the road.

At the moment, the Steelers need Adams to do his best Gilbert impression and just hang in there for a team that is banged up all over the place. Adams might not even be the only backup lineman playing for a team facing a critical juncture early in the season.

Doug Legursky practiced at center on Wednesday in place of Maurkice Pouncey, who is questionable with a right knee injury. Putting together a patchwork offensive line is nothing new in Pittsburgh, where the practice seems to be as much a part of the football season as the Terrible Towel.

"It always seems to happen to us, it does," Foster said. "We've got to reverse this curse, whatever is going on. We've handled it before."

The Steelers have to handle it again if they want to keep pace in a ridiculously crowded AFC, where nine teams have three losses six weeks into the seasons. The Bengals are one of them, though a win over Pittsburgh would give Cincinnati some breathing room in a suddenly vulnerable AFC North now that division leader Baltimore has lost linebacker Ray Lewis and cornerback Ladarius Webb for the season with injuries.

Adams' job will be to help keep pressure off quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and open up holes for a running game that has operated in fits and starts. It's a job he's ready for, even if his opportunity to step under the lights came a little earlier than he expected.

"I think for Mike, this is the perfect process and perfect time for him to come in and start playing," Starks said.

NOTES: Safety Troy Polamalu will miss his fourth game of the season with a strained right calf, though Polamalu said Wednesday he remains optimistic he won't be sidelined for a significant amount of time ... Running backs Rashard Mendenhall (right Achilles) and Isaac Redman (ankle) did not practice on Wednesday though both are questionable ... Linebacker Lawrence Timmons did not practice on Wednesday with a foot issue.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/10/18/steelers-rookie-offensive-tackle-mike-adams-quickly-finding-footing-on/print#ixzz29fRnyf2C

Hawaii 5-0
01-12-2013, 12:51 AM
I would like to sincerely congratulate TE David Paulson for being the only member of the 2012 draft class to not get either injured, arrested, or cut...:thumbsup:

http://binaryapi.ap.org/be67254a98bd48dd80a51ce433c87470/512x.jpg

teegre
01-12-2013, 05:28 AM
I would like to sincerely congratulate TE David Paulson for being the only member of the 2012 draft class to not get either injured, arrested, or cut...:thumbsup:

http://binaryapi.ap.org/be67254a98bd48dd80a51ce433c87470/512x.jpg

LOL... truly, LOL.

El-Gonzo Jackson
01-12-2013, 11:42 AM
I would like to sincerely congratulate TE David Paulson for being the only member of the 2012 draft class to not get either injured, arrested, or cut...:thumbsup:

http://binaryapi.ap.org/be67254a98bd48dd80a51ce433c87470/512x.jpg

Cool thing is that if they all come back from injury, we have a pretty good class with late rounders like Paulson and Beechum contributing. I still think DeCastro and Adams will be long term fixtures on the O-Line. If Spence comes back, he will start next season and Ta'amu still has the ability to be the starting NT....despite all the hate for him by fans here.

Steeler7BR
01-12-2013, 12:05 PM
Cool thing is that if they all come back from injury, we have a pretty good class with late rounders like Paulson and Beechum contributing. I still think DeCastro and Adams will be long term fixtures on the O-Line. If Spence comes back, he will start next season and Ta'amu still has the ability to be the starting NT....despite all the hate for him by fans here.

Oh yeah Paulson the savior of our season. :doh:
This picture really says everything celebrating with the kicker :grin:
Really did a great job blocking outstanding :grin:

Nearly as impressive as Thiago Spiltters mean picks on a pick'n'roll. Both MVPs of their teams.

:rofl:

teegre
01-12-2013, 12:08 PM
Oh yeah Paulson the savior of our season. :doh:
This picture really says everything celebrating with the kicker :grin:
Really did a great job blocking outstanding :grin:

Nearly as impressive as Thiago Spiltters mean picks on a pick'n'roll. Both MVPs of their teams.

:rofl:

Not every player is going to be an All-Pro. For a R7 to contribute, that's a good thing (most are cut).

Plus, he was a rookie. Look at Hines Ward's & Lynn Swann's stats as rookies.

SteelersCanada
01-12-2013, 12:14 PM
Paulson was a 7th round rookie TE behind Heath Miller - what kind of stats do you want him to have?

How about we're just happy that he was able to contribute in any capacity.

Steeler7BR
01-12-2013, 12:59 PM
Paulson was a 7th round rookie TE behind Heath Miller - what kind of stats do you want him to have?

How about we're just happy that he was able to contribute in any capacity.

I'm basicly just saying that Paulson don't come into account when you talk about a pretty good draft. He's so little and will be so little for this team that we can't judge the draft on a player like that and only because he played the full season.

casteeler
01-12-2013, 03:26 PM
Beecham played the best of any other Rookie for the Steelers this year, as for Paulson I would really like for the Steelers to pick up a big talented TE to help with the dink and dunk offense Paulson plays like a practice squad guy

Fire Arians
01-12-2013, 03:36 PM
Beecham played the best of any other Rookie for the Steelers this year, as for Paulson I would really like for the Steelers to pick up a big talented TE to help with the dink and dunk offense Paulson plays like a practice squad guy

pauslon could be a good receiving tight end but his blocking is totally horrible, dude's on roller skates in that category