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Darkstorm05
10-17-2012, 07:39 PM
A week should have been plenty of time to get all the ranting out. Time for some positives going into this weekends games.

1) Rainey was looking pretty good. Hope to see him used in some dynamic plays. He's elusive when he has the ball.

2) The Ravens are going to lose to Houston.

3) Harrison has been staying healthy since his return.

4) Timmons has been looking great since Harrison came back.

5) 3 and 4 means Dalton gets rattled.

6) Wallace showed a flash of his former self. Let's hope he wakes up and gets in gear.

7) The Browns still suck.

Bayz101
10-17-2012, 07:41 PM
As long as Haley's gameplan doesn't contain multiple screens like it did in Tenn, I believe we'll be fine.

Curtain_of_Steel
10-17-2012, 07:42 PM
Good job DarkStorm: Well Wallace showed a flash because Ben went deep, than never did it again, as we at the Steelers do not like to run up the score, lol I had to one more positive thing.

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1) Rainey was looking pretty good. Hope to see him used in some dynamic plays. He's elusive when he has the ball.

2) The Ravens are going to lose to Houston.

3) Harrison has been staying healthy since his return.

4) Timmons has been looking great since Harrison came back.

5) 3 and 4 means Dalton gets rattled.

6) Wallace showed a flash of his former self. Let's hope he wakes up and gets in gear.

7) The Browns still suck.

8) Ike Taylor takes off his thong

Curtain_of_Steel
10-17-2012, 07:44 PM
Bayz Bayz Bayz. Do you not know that the screens set up the run? Or is it the pass? I forget, but they must set up something. lol...
Those screens sucked, I sure hope they went over those in practice and explained to Wallace what a block is, than explained to Brown that you do NOT run into the back of your blocker, even if he isnt blocking anyone.
Obviously we need to take baby steps and talk sloooooooow to them with plenty of pictures to illustrate how to run aFing screen

Bayz101
10-17-2012, 07:48 PM
Bayz Bayz Bayz. Do you not know that the screens set up the run? Or is it the pass? I forget, but they must set up something. lol...
Those screens sucked, I sure hope they went over those in practice and explained to Wallace what a block is, than explained to Brown that you do NOT run into the back of your blocker, even if he isnt blocking anyone.
Obviously we need to take baby steps and talk sloooooooow to them with plenty of pictures to illustrate how to run aFing screen

Every time Ben's throw leaves his hand on a screen, i'm already screaming "PICK!". It happened against Baltimore last year, too, and it's bound to happen again if we use it.

Darkstorm05
10-17-2012, 07:54 PM
Ben will throw zero picks this week. Adams is going to man up, too, and seal his side of the line. My only concern is Ike, but once Dalton eats turf a few times, it'll be fine.

teegre
10-17-2012, 08:00 PM
I'll add a list:

POSITIVES

1) Rainey looked good. Batch looked good enough.

2) BB is money on third downs (best in the league: 73% conversion rate).

3) Cortez Allen has looked good. The third WR and/or TE won't be killing the Steelers.

4) Timmons playing well.

I HOPE FOR...

1) "Run right," What does Adams do well and/or what do young OL do well? A: Run block. Run right a few times, and the defender(s) on that side will be less likely to pass-rush as furiously.

2) Throwing a screen to Rainey.

3) After 1 & 2, throwing DEEP to Wallace.

4) Timmons playing well. (It's in both categories, because I'd like for it to continue.)

5) Heyward & McClendon starting. [I can foresee 1-4, but this one is a pipe-dream.]

Hawaii 5-0
10-17-2012, 09:12 PM
Collier: Steelers angst overflows with looming road trip to Cincinnati

Wednesday, October 17, 2012
By Gene Collier, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

All right, Steelers at Cincinnati, so let's bring in the appropriate themes: Desperation, angst, urgency, ennui, acute chronic nastiness, cloying self-doubt, and I would readily include pathos and bathos if I knew the difference, although bathos might be those things you stick to the bottom of the tub so you don't slip and sustain any of the various injuries that could easily alter the outcome of Steelers at Cincinnati.

In addition to their weekly menu of systems-threatening and potentially victory-clogging injuries, the Steelers now have generated a combination of issues not previously presented en masse: Drunk driving, junk tweeting, and another looming road assignment, at which they've generally stunk.

That's right; drunk, junk and stunk is no way to go through a NFL season son, but suddenly a lot of teams are trying it. Maybe not in that precise combination, but take a gander around the AFC and the league as a whole, or hole, whichever you find more descriptive.

Fully 34 percent of the NFL is 3-3. Another 37.5 percent is not that good.

So if you think hard times have targeted 3400 Water Street on the South Side like some B movie spookfest UFO, take a good look at the faces of some of this league's other marquee franchises and see how easily it is to trace the tracks of their tears.

Oh, yes, I will go to the Smokey Robinson sub-package if need be.

The Philadelphia Eagles, one of the few, or more accurately one of the two teams the Steelers can verifiably beat, just fired their defensive coordinator after blowing a fourth-quarter lead against the Detroit Lions.

Juan Castillo was terminated after an experimental spell as Andy Reid's DC, a curious assignment at its origin because Castillo had been the offensive line coach. Now that they're 3-3 like just about everyone else, a year after being 8-8, the Eagles decided that as a defensive mind, Castillo was an OK offensive line coach.

The San Diego Chargers, ahead, 24-0, at halftime Monday night, lost, 35-24, to the Denver Mannings, putting the boldest flourish yet on an NFL fashion trend that is hotter than the pink accessories in the October uniforms -- a blown fourth-quarter lead. Surely you've noticed the Steelers have flashed this affectation four times in five games.

The Bengals just turned up as the one team the Cleveland Browns could beat after 11 consecutive unsuccessful searches. Bengals coach Marvin Lewis has guessed publicly that perhaps his fellas aren't mean enough.

You want mean? Look to the Browns, who fired general manager Mike Holmgren Tuesday, apparently out of fear that this winning thing could become a habit. That'll teach him.

Even the better NFL teams this fall are suffering from an array of misfortunes. The Baltimore Ravens, smacked with season-ending injuries to defensive standouts Ray Lewis and Lardarius Webb, have won four games in a row, but only once by more than three points.

The New York Giants, fresh from perhaps the most impressive performance of a still-young season, in which they pounded the San Francisco 49ers on the road, reportedly returned to their training facility only to find that several of their cars had been burglarized, and one stolen.

Imagine the tweets were Rashard Mendenhall on that team.

Do not mess with Rashard's ride while the Steelers are in Cincinnati would be my advice to you. Also be careful on Carson Street while Alameda Ta'amu is off work for the next two weeks, having been suspended for allegedly hitting three cars and nearly running over two police officers, allegedly, while allegedly driving drunk.

But the real fear drawing near this week likely is more related to the Steelers secondary, which has somehow allowed 11 touchdown passes in the past six games, dating to Jan. 8 at Denver, after allowing only 14 all last season.

This is an unfortunate turn of events in a week that brings Mike Tomlin's team to the intersection of Andy Dalton and Pick Six Boulevard. The Bengals quarterback already has thrown three interceptions that have been returned for touchdowns, but to take advantage of that, your defenders have to be able to catch the football.

If Steelers corner Keenan Lewis could catch the football, this Steelers team would be flying high at 3-2, right there among the NFL's, uh, Elite Eight. OK, actually nine teams have winning records.

All that said, we're all blissfully aware that when the Steelers really need a win, they know where to go to get one. They're 10-2 at Paul Brown Stadium. If they're not soon 11-2, you'll be ordering more angst.

http://old.post-gazette.com/pg/12291/1269675-150.stm#ixzz29bKbtbh4

Curtain_of_Steel
10-17-2012, 11:09 PM
"If Steelers corner Keenan Lewis could catch the football, this Steelers team would be flying high at 3-2, right there among the NFL's, uh, Elite Eight. OK, actually nine teams have winning records."

Is this clown Ike Taylors daddy? So forget about the 4 calls, and the TD and countless yards he gave up ALL by HIMSELF, this nimrod is blaming Lewis?

I'm sure Taylors name must be in that articale, as its late and I cant see straight.. So please someone point it out, lol

casteeler
10-18-2012, 12:19 AM
The Steelers haven't had a convincing win all year and have lost to very bad teams, onwords I'll buy but upward I have yet to see this year.

DoctorCAD
10-18-2012, 09:21 AM
Is Legs playing? He had a great game last week and I think he might be worth keeping in the line-up.

wera176
10-18-2012, 12:08 PM
"If Steelers corner Keenan Lewis could catch the football, this Steelers team would be flying high at 3-2, right there among the NFL's, uh, Elite Eight. OK, actually nine teams have winning records."

Is this clown Ike Taylors daddy? So forget about the 4 calls, and the TD and countless yards he gave up ALL by HIMSELF, this nimrod is blaming Lewis?

I'm sure Taylors name must be in that articale, as its late and I cant see straight.. So please someone point it out, lol

Nah, he's only pointing out that even though Dalton has been a pick-6 machine, since our DBs can't catch, it won't matter.

And his right, if Lewis catches that easy pick then Ike has at least 3 less penalties and 1 less TD given up... ;)

Steelers>NFL
10-18-2012, 01:24 PM
The Steelers haven't had a convincing win all year and have lost to very bad teams, onwords I'll buy but upward I have yet to see this year.

correction: Denver is not a bad team.

Hawaii 5-0
10-18-2012, 10:04 PM
Steelers look to break road slump in Cincinnati against a Bengals team trying to measure up

Published October 18, 2012
Associated Press

CINCINNATI – The seats are dark green instead of mustard yellow. The home team wears full stripes instead of a half-adorned helmet. Otherwise, Paul Brown Stadium feels awfully homey for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

They've won 10 of their last 11 at the stadium along the Ohio River — about 300 miles downstream from their own field where the river is formed. Since the stadium opened in 2000, they've gone 11-2, an impressive record that includes a 2005 playoff victory.

The Steelers (2-3) will need every bit of their away-from-home-field advantage on Sunday night in a game that represents a fork in the river for both teams.

Pittsburgh is 0-3 on the road, losing at Denver, Oakland and Tennessee. The Steelers haven't opened a season 0-4 on the road since 2006. The Bengals (3-3) have dropped their last two games overall, leaving them in a tough spot heading into the toughest stretch of their schedule.

Not just another game for either of these river rivals.

"I don't think we can afford another loss this whole entire season," Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey said.

The Bengals can relate.

"It's like I've been saying: For us to get to where we want to be, we've got to beat opponents like this," quarterback Andy Dalton said. "So we need to get a win, and that's what it comes down to."

Adding to their urgency is Baltimore's fast start in the AFC North. The Ravens are 5-1, giving them an early cushion. The Steelers and Bengals can't afford to let the gap grow if they intend to challenge for the title.

"Oh yeah, this is a must-win game for us," Bengals receiver A.J. Green said.
In this stadium, the Steelers almost always get it.

Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger is 7-1 at Paul Brown Stadium. He grew up in Ohio and attended Miami University, a 45-minute drive north of Cincinnati. He and the Steelers feel right at home with thousands of towel-twirling Steelers fans filling the place.

Feels real comfy, actually.

"We're excited to go on the road, and we're excited to go into a hostile environment," Roethlisberger said. "It's Sunday Night Football, so it's going to be fun. We usually have a lot of Steelers fans when we play so close to home, so we're really looking forward to going to Cincinnati this week."

Roethlisberger leads an offense converting 51.9 percent of third downs, the best in the league. The Steelers are leaning on him as much as ever with running backs Rashard Mendenhall (Achilles tendon) and Isaac Redman (ankle) limited by injuries.

The offensive line also is in flux because of injuries, which is a bad combination. The Steelers rank 31st in rushing in the NFL.

"You know, we're piecing it together right now," coach Mike Tomlin said. "We've had some lineup changes in the backfield and on the offensive line but from our perspective, we're capable of playing better."

It's the first AFC North game for the Steelers, who don't get into the heart of their division schedule until mid-November, when they play Baltimore, Cleveland and Baltimore again during a three-week stretch.

Three AFC North teams reached the playoffs last season, partly a factor of a favorable schedule outside the division. That's not likely to happen this year.

"We know if we want to do anything and go to the playoffs, it starts in our division," receiver Antonio Brown said. "This week we have an opportunity to start in our division and get some things cleaned up."

For Cincinnati, it's a chance to get that long-awaited breakthrough.

The Bengals got a wild card berth last season with a 9-7 record that included no wins over other playoff teams. They went 0-4 against Baltimore and Pittsburgh, showing there's still a big gap between them and the division's best.

This year, they had a chance to show they'd closed the gap when they played at Baltimore in a Monday night opener. They got blown out 44-13, matching the most lopsided season-opening loss in franchise history.

They're 1-2 in the division after a 34-24 loss in Cleveland last Sunday, prompting all the talk about needing to win this week.

"Yeah, you can throw for a bunch of yards," said Dalton, who reached the Pro Bowl as a rookie without beating either Pittsburgh or Baltimore. "Yeah, you can do whatever. But if you're not winning games, it doesn't really matter.

"So we've got to beat teams like the Steelers and the Ravens and the other good teams. It's definitely a good test for us."

One they can't afford to flunk.

"I told our players: This is an exciting game," coach Marvin Lewis said. "Man, this is what you want to have. You've got the opportunity. This is a big game, a big stage — huge stage. To me, it's just such an exciting opportunity to have."

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2012/10/18/steelers-look-to-break-road-slump-in-cincinnati-against-bengals-team-trying-to/#ixzz29hNfUumB

casteeler
10-18-2012, 10:40 PM
correction: Denver is not a bad team.

I didn't say ALL the loses were to bad teams

CanuckCurtain
10-18-2012, 10:50 PM
I'm looking forward to this game....whats tomlins primetime record with us?

maddog78
10-18-2012, 11:06 PM
I'm looking forward to this game....whats tomlins primetime record with us?

0-2 this year, but all roadies. One thing that burns my rear end is that we have three road prime time games in our first six.

Baltimore had three home prime time games in their first four.

Granted, we should have beaten Tennessee, but the other two are taller orders.

torpedoshell31
10-19-2012, 10:37 AM
I cringe about Ike Taylor covering AJ Green, the offense is going to have to score around 30 points for us to win.

Lady Steel
10-19-2012, 07:11 PM
We need to win this one. It is never, ever good to lose a divisional game. I'm ready! LET'S GO!!! :tt:

Hawaii 5-0
10-19-2012, 08:14 PM
We need to win this one. It is never, ever good to lose a divisional game. I'm ready! LET'S GO!!! :tt:

we desperately need to win this game.

3-3 overall and 1-0 in the AFC North sounds a helluva lot better than 2-4 and 0-1 does...

maddog78
10-19-2012, 11:38 PM
we desperately need to win this game.

3-3 overall and 1-0 in the AFC North sounds a helluva lot better than 2-4 and 0-1 does...

This game could mean the season. If Baltimore wins in Houston, this is a must win. Maybe even if Baltimore loses.

It's going to be tough on the road, beat up, night game, but if this team can somehow pull out a win, it could turn the season.

Please, please, please, give Ike safety help with AJ Green. If they can limit him there's a chance.

Hawaii 5-0
10-20-2012, 02:20 AM
Can The Steelers Take Care Of Business Against The Bengals?

Oct 19th, 2012 by Kim MyersSteelers

How about a little AFC North road action? Everybody ready? Oh what’s that you say? You’re nervous? Yeah me too. The Steelers haven’t won a road game since January 1st in Cleveland at the end of last season. However, they are the winners of 9 of their last 10 regular season meetings in Cincinnati. In spite of their 4th quarter collapses in 4 out of the 5 games played, the Steelers defense still ranks 5th overall in the NFL. Battered and bruised from injuries and critics, can the Steelers, particularly the Steelers defense, take care of their road business this weekend against the Bungles?

So many questions but not a whole lot of answers to give. You can look at it from every angle as to what has gone wrong with the Steelers defense so far this season but it will all come down to the players making the plays on the field. So much criticism has been tossed around. Criticism of Ike Taylor, of Dick LeBeau, of Ryan Mundy, of the front 3, and the defense as a whole has been thrown out and debated up and down since the Steelers most recent disappointing loss in Tennessee last Thursday night. It has been like a perfect storm of things going wrong to lead to the slow and uncharacteristic start for this Steelers defense.

The criticism of Ike Taylor for the amount of receptions, yards, and penalties he’s allowed so far this season is not solely his fault. If it wasn’t for the fact that the pass rush coming from Hampton, Hood, and Keisel has been nonexistent so far, Ike wouldn’t have to cover as long as he has been and wouldn’t nearly be targeted as much either. That being said, Ike had a career year last season establishing himself as a true shut-down corner and so far this season, is just getting exposed over and over again. Of course he was bound to get targeted more after how that playoff game in Denver ended last season, but he has yet to rise to the challenge. You can bet your ass Ike is going to have his hands full with AJ Green this Sunday night. If he can return to his regular season form of last year and stop committing so many costly penalties, he won’t have to worry about what the local media has to say about him.

The problems in the secondary can also be attributed to the lack of one former Defensive Player of the Year, Troy Polamalu. Although Tomlin has implemented the “next man up” mantra and saying over and over again that he doesn’t have starters and non starters he has starters and starters in waiting, Ryan Mundy is no Troy Polamalu and it’s unfair to expect him to be. Last week Mundy even lost his spot to Will Allen, a primarily Special Teams player. You can’t just fill in for a player of Troy’s capabilities and not see a difference. What has to happen and what hasn’t happened on the defense is not necessarily the “next man up” needs to step up for an injured star, but the rest of the stars on defense need to step up in addition. Ryan Mundy does not equal Troy Polamalu so that means that Mundy + Clark + Taylor + Woodley + Harrison should combine to make up for the loss of the dynamic presence of Troy.

http://cdn.fansided.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/58/files/2012/10/66414161-215x300.jpg?b1d0e7

As far as the criticism for Dick LeBeau, I refuse to believe that LeBeau has gone from a defensive genius in the NFL to an old man who is so stuck in his ways he can’t budge and make adjustments when something isn’t working. There’s nothing wrong with the 3-4 defense. There’s something wrong with the Steelers execution of the 3-4 defense so far this year. The biggest problem so far is with those front 3. All preseason we heard how great McLendon was performing but he’s seen little to no playing time so far this season. Former first round top pick Cam Heyward hasn’t been on the field so much this year either. With that being said Hampton is no longer drawing double teams and the DE’s aren’t creating the opportunities for the LB’s to get to the quarterback as is intended with this defense. That’s not coaching, that’s execution. Clearly McLendon and Heyward aren’t giving the coaches any reason during the week to make them think that putting them on the field on Sundays is a good idea, you have to assume that Tomlin and LeBeau are playing who they feel will give them a better chance. The players just aren’t executing plain and simple. LeBeau’s defense is to prevent the big plays and stop the run. Well, the defense has allowed big plays, sometimes that big play being a run.

Even with all the hype surrounding the Bengals as becoming one of the teams to fear in the AFC North with the combination of Dalton and Green, the Steelers were able to take care of business there last season and swept the Bungles. This is a pivotal game for both the Bengals and the Steelers as the Ravens have just been bitten hard by the injury bug. If the Ravens can’t make it past the Texans and the Steelers can handle their business in Cincy, they’ll jump to the #2 spot in the division and the entire Steeler Nation will breathe a huge sigh of relief. I gotta be honest with you; I don’t know how this is going to all play out. We could be in for a very long and disappointing season, we could be looking back at this in December after clinching the division and laugh about how panicked we were to start. All I know is the book has not been written and published yet on the 2012 Steelers, but this next chapter in Cincy is a very important one.

Here We Go Steelers!

http://nicepickcowher.com/2012/10/19/can-the-steelers-take-care-of-business-against-the-bengals/

Hawaii 5-0
10-20-2012, 02:40 AM
Please, please, please, give Ike safety help with AJ Green. If they can limit him there's a chance.

Steelers’ strategy: Shut down Green

By Ralph N. Paulk
Published: Saturday, October 20, 2012

Comparing receiving totals in a player’s first 20 games:

Receiver Catches Yards TDs

A.J. Green, Bengals 101 1,550 11

Larry Fitzgerald, Cardinals 85 1,148 10

Andre Johnson, Texans 83 1,331 6

Jerry Rice, 49ers 71 1,303 4

Calvin Johnson, Lions 71 1,113 7

The Steelers defensively will simplify the game plan against the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday. No need to complicate matters when facing a mostly one-dimensional team.

The Bengals, often handcuffed by an inconsistent run game, are sometimes forced to rely almost exclusively on gifted receiver A.J. Green.

No one, of course, can fault second-year quarterback Andy Dalton for making Green his first and last options. Green has fashioned impressive numbers: an NFL-best 628 receiving yards on 43 catches this season.

Green has accomplished much of that while facing double coverage. He isn’t the best route runner and isn’t likely to beat Mike Wallace in the 40-yard dash, but few receivers can routinely turn nothing into the spectacular.

“The thing about A.J. Green is, you could have him covered, he just makes the catch,” safety Ryan Clark said. “He’s got extreme body control, great hands, and he’s definitely one of the top five receivers in the league already.”

Steelers defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau has seen enough game film to know the Bengals will be persistent in sticking with schemes designed to maximize Green’s touches. A year ago, the Bengals tried to ignite the running game against the Steelers as Green sprinted 15 yards on a reverse.

If Dalton doesn’t relent in firing at Green, cornerback Ike Taylor likely will be the target. The Steelers might mix up their coverage occasionally, but Taylor will draw — if not insist — on man-on-man coverage with Green.

“Ike is our best corner, and A.J. is their best receiver,” safety Ryan Mundy said. “I’m sure they’ll cross paths throughout the game.”

Taylor said you can count on it.

“Green has been playing lights out,” said Taylor, who was flagged for three penalties at Tennessee on Oct. 11. “It’s going to be a challenge for our defense. It’s going to be a challenge for me.”

The Steelers are confident, in part, because Taylor held Green to one catch (a 36-yard score) during the teams’ first meeting last year at Paul Brown Stadium. He tormented and frustrated the then-rookie flanker by jamming him at the line of scrimmage and rerouting his patterns, thus disrupting the Bengals’ timing.

But Green gained some redemption two weeks later when he had six catches for 87 yards and a touchdown.

“They’re moving me around a lot this season to create matchup problems for the defense,” Green said. “I feel more comfortable this year. I didn’t know what was going on last year, and I’m not as nervous, either.

“The Steelers are physical and play a lot of man coverage. They may not have (Troy) Polamalu, but they have one of the best safeties in football in Ryan Clark, who doesn’t get the respect he deserves.”

Clark is convinced Green can be discouraged simply by tagging him every time he’s the target. It was a tactic Cleveland applied last weekend, but Green still finished with seven catches for 135 yards, including a 57-yard touchdown reception.

“The great equalizer is physicality,” Clark said. “We’ll try to get hands on him and make him work for his catches. Then, once he catches it, get hats on the ball.”

Dalton would like to spread the wealth among his receiving corps. But the Steelers aren’t likely to lose focus of the Bengals’ primary target.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2795244-85/green-steelers-bengals-catches-game-taylor-yards-clark-coverage-dalton#ixzz29oLu2CNV

torpedoshell31
10-20-2012, 11:45 AM
I agree this is a must win game for the Steelers this week. We have to win the turnover battle, put pressure on Dalton and try and contain AJ Green. I look for Chris Rainey to make a big play for us this week.

Darkstorm05
10-21-2012, 07:16 PM
Update: Ravens down, as predicted. The Browns do indeed still suck. The Browns and Baltimore held up their ends, time for the Steelers to finish off this week.

SquirrelHillSteelNut
10-21-2012, 07:40 PM
we need a good solid road win to turn the corner on this less than stellar season so far. good luck, Black and Gold, and play for 60 minutes. i got faith in ya...