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maddog78
10-23-2012, 06:46 AM
Glad the kid responded, but I have to ask, why hasn't anyone else been benched for poor play? How many KO returns is Dick Van Dyke going to have called back before he loses a hat?

Coach Mike Tomlin didn’t hide his displeasure that Jonathan Dwyer’s lost fumble cost the Steelers a valuable possession during their last-second loss Sept. 23 in Oakland.

So Tomlin delivered a message to Dwyer, and made certain his teammates knew about it, too.

According to right guard Ramon Foster, Tomlin posted on the team meeting room message board that Dwyer wouldn’t play the next week against Philadelphia. Tomlin also held him out of the Tennessee game.

For Dwyer, it was one fumble and two games lost.

“Coach put it on the board for everyone to know that he wasn’t playing that weekend,” Foster said after Dwyer ran for 122 yards in his first career start, the Steelers’ 24-17 win Sunday night in Cincinnati. “I’m glad to see him respond.”

Read more: http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2816044-85/dwyer-steelers-yards-start-career-tomlin-win-game-foster-rushing#ixzz2A7c0FfSJ

Steelers>NFL
10-23-2012, 07:32 AM
Yeah, why was Ike Taylor not benched? He has had the shittiest year of all Steler players so far this season.
Finally came to play Sunday against the Bens-Gals.

steelfury02
10-23-2012, 09:07 AM
seems to be the young guys Tomlin likes to put in his dog house - some of these "still awesome vets" need to be taken down 1 1/2 pegs imo

torpedoshell31
10-23-2012, 09:36 AM
If Mike Wallace was benched for dropping passes, he wouldn't see the field for the rest of the season.

maddog78
10-23-2012, 09:38 AM
If Mike Wallace was benched for dropping passes, he wouldn't see the field for the rest of the season.

I think that was an aberration for Wallace. I look for a huge rebound game vs. a terrible defense.

torpedoshell31
10-23-2012, 09:47 AM
Maddog-I agree that Wallace needs to make a statement after that disappointing game he played Sunday night. The Redskins have a very poor defense so he is going to get plenty of chances.
You totally right about the Van Dyke kid. He has to lead the entire NFL in special team penalties.

Millers the sh!t
10-23-2012, 09:50 AM
I think that was an aberration for Wallace. I look for a huge rebound game vs. a terrible defense.


Although that game was ultra terrible for Wallace, he has had a case of the drops since last season. His hands are mediocre at best. I can catch better than Wallace.

steelfury02
10-23-2012, 10:01 AM
I was gonna lay down all these mediocre stats on Wallace, but it ain't worth it. The eye test is enough. He is average at best dating to the 2nd half of last season. PAY THE MAN (4 to 5 mill at most)

Twentyvalve
10-23-2012, 10:34 AM
That seems stupid. Like that is the reason they lost the game. If guys got benched making mistakes, half the players in the league would be in out at any given time. Stupid stupid stupid. This makes no sense, there must be more to it than this.

maddog78
10-23-2012, 10:58 AM
Although that game was ultra terrible for Wallace, he has had a case of the drops since last season. His hands are mediocre at best. I can catch better than Wallace.

He had four drops last season.

OX1947
10-23-2012, 02:31 PM
Benching the 3rd string running back isnt a stretch.

maddog78
10-23-2012, 02:52 PM
Benching the 3rd string running back isnt a stretch.

I'd like to see him play ahead of Redman.

Blackout
10-23-2012, 03:45 PM
seems to be the young guys Tomlin likes to put in his dog house - some of these "still awesome vets" need to be taken down 1 1/2 pegs imo

Might cause too many problems in the locker room with those veteran egos.

Riddle_Of_Steel
10-23-2012, 03:50 PM
He had four drops last season.

His drops and running the wrong route cost us a SB title against GB.

Last season he disappeared completely in the second half of the season.

Last night, he left 14 to 21 points out on the field with his drops. That did not need to be a close game.

If he wants Fitz money, he better catch the damn ball when it bounces off his hands.

Riddle_Of_Steel
10-23-2012, 03:53 PM
Coach Mike Tomlin didn’t hide his displeasure that Jonathan Dwyer’s lost fumble cost the Steelers a valuable possession during their last-second loss Sept. 23 in Oakland.

So Tomlin delivered a message to Dwyer, and made certain his teammates knew about it, too.

According to right guard Ramon Foster, Tomlin posted on the team meeting room message board that Dwyer wouldn’t play the next week against Philadelphia. Tomlin also held him out of the Tennessee game.

For Dwyer, it was one fumble and two games lost.

“Coach put it on the board for everyone to know that he wasn’t playing that weekend,” Foster said after Dwyer ran for 122 yards in his first career start, the Steelers’ 24-17 win Sunday night in Cincinnati. “I’m glad to see him respond.”

While I am a huge fan of Tomlin's-- I thought this was fxxking lame.

Bench a guy for one, single fumble, but not Ike Taylor, who has been the MVP for the other team that last month or so.

If Dwyer gets two games for one fumble-- how many should Wallace have to sit out for dropping at least 2 easy TD catches and 4 drops overall in one night?

Come on now, Mike....

FrancoLambert
10-23-2012, 04:02 PM
Benching the 3rd string running back isnt a stretch.

Throw in the possibility that there may be practice /attitude / preparation issues we don't know about.

Curtain_of_Steel
10-23-2012, 04:29 PM
Wallace was raw in the SB, can not blame him for veteran F ups.

Blame him for other drops etc, but the SB was not his fault.

If the Great Ike Taylor who needs Clarks help all game long isn't benched after 6 games, than no one should ever be benched again in the NFL. No player ever has had such a piss porr stretch along with a piss poor attitude.

Dwyer earned another dedicated start. If tomlin doesn;t give him it than something is wrong with the coaching mentality this year.

Hawaii 5-0
10-24-2012, 07:10 PM
Steelers' Jonathan Dwyer's rise forces tough decisions

By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: Oct. 24, 2012

The Pittsburgh Steelers have struggled to run the ball this season, but Jonathan Dwyer's breakout performance against the Cincinnati Bengals on Sunday night offers hope.

Dwyer's 122 yards on the ground was the most by a Steelers back in more than a year, but the third-year pro knows who's boss in Pittsburgh. Rashard Mendenhall is close to returning from an Achilles' injury and Isaac Redman (ankle) is on his way back, too. Dwyer won't stand in their way.

"If they were to be back, I have no problem," Dwyer told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. "He (Mendenhall) is the starter and he's earned that here. All I tried to do Sunday was solidify myself as a player."

Coach Mike Tomlin said Dwyer is "evolving as a player and as a person," and beat writer Mark Kaboly believes the young back might eventually take over the starting role if he continues to shine over the final 10 games of the season.

Mendenhall's in the final year of his rookie deal. The Steelers are paying him $2 million this year, and might shy away from a big second contract for a running back coming off knee surgery.

Dwyer will be a restricted free agent in 2013 and the Steelers have decisions to make in their backfield. Pittsburgh is targeted to land as high as $15 million over the salary cap heading into next season, and somebody won't be back. It's a subplot to keep an eye on in the Steel City.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000084658/article/steelers-jonathan-dwyers-rise-forces-tough-decisions

sloppyjoe
10-24-2012, 08:10 PM
Coach Mike Tomlin didn’t hide his displeasure that Jonathan Dwyer’s lost fumble cost the Steelers a valuable possession during their last-second loss Sept. 23 in Oakland.

So Tomlin delivered a message to Dwyer, and made certain his teammates knew about it, too.

According to right guard Ramon Foster, Tomlin posted on the team meeting room message board that Dwyer wouldn’t play the next week against Philadelphia. Tomlin also held him out of the Tennessee game.

For Dwyer, it was one fumble and two games lost.

“Coach put it on the board for everyone to know that he wasn’t playing that weekend,” Foster said after Dwyer ran for 122 yards in his first career start, the Steelers’ 24-17 win Sunday night in Cincinnati. “I’m glad to see him respond.”

While I am a huge fan of Tomlin's-- I thought this was fxxking lame.

Bench a guy for one, single fumble, but not Ike Taylor, who has been the MVP for the other team that last month or so.

If Dwyer gets two games for one fumble-- how many should Wallace have to sit out for dropping at least 2 easy TD catches and 4 drops overall in one night?

Come on now, Mike....

total chickenshit manuever to act like you are in charge..........please:banging:

maddog78
10-24-2012, 10:11 PM
His drops and running the wrong route cost us a SB title against GB.

Last season he disappeared completely in the second half of the season.

Last night, he left 14 to 21 points out on the field with his drops. That did not need to be a close game.

If he wants Fitz money, he better catch the damn ball when it bounces off his hands.

Don't get me wrong. I think he's a one-trick pony and I don't want the Steelers to drop $10+M a year on him, but he's not Terrell Owens re: drops.

tony hipchest
10-24-2012, 11:50 PM
While I am a huge fan of Tomlin's-- I thought this was fxxking lame.

Bench a guy for one, single fumble, but not Ike Taylor, who has been the MVP for the other team that last month or so.

If Dwyer gets two games for one fumble-- how many should Wallace have to sit out for dropping at least 2 easy TD catches and 4 drops overall in one night?

Come on now, Mike....*sigh*

and ben shoulda been immediately cut for his indiscretions. :blah:

theres a number of people here that dont seem to get it that players are held to different standards.

it doesnt matter who agrees or disagrees, its just how it is.

while im a huge fan of football, i think thursday night football for 16 weeks is lame. im not gonna sit around and harp on it every day though like some people do with ike taylor (theyre jused pissed last 2 years whipping boy, william gay, is gone).

ike is our starting cb who covers the opponents best wr and has built a lucrative career doing so. he has paid his dues, and believe it or not WAS benched back in 2006 for substandard play. people wanted him fired back then.

mike wallace was our #1 wr and believe it or not the team came into this season with all intentions of keeping him long term. you dont bench him for a single bad game.

max starks could give up 4 sacks in the next 2 games and he WONT be benched, yet you guys would be the first ones hollering for him to be benched in favor of some slapdick like jon scott or beachum (yeah starks has paid his dues, been demoted, been released and trashed by fans).

dwyer is a 3rd string RB who is freaking lucky to still be on the squad. we coulda kept john clay over his ass. he still hasnt lived up to the supposed 1st-2nd round talent he had coming out of college and as soon as he gets his opportunity (he's been pretty much fat and injured up until the raiders game) he puts the rock on the ground.

it seems he is turning the corner, but make no mistake, he is lucky baron batch screwed the pooch with his 2 costly mistakes in the past 2 games. tomlin did dwyer a favor just like cowher did for ike, and tomlin did for holmes benching him the year he was SB MVP. hell, even jerome bettis was demoted before he was traded from the rams.

you all should take a break from the hating and whining, and take a lesson from how some of the greatest coaches have coached the game and their players.

in the NFL you dont win with a bunch back ups just because youre angry and want to prove a point.

admit it... y'all thought tommy maddox was going to lead the steelers to a superbowl title, didnt cha?