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nikstar
11-04-2012, 10:28 PM
I watched the game tonight and they showed one play early on where Steve McLendon got some early pressure. There was plenty of preseason talk about him but no real in-game stats. Nbc sports shows him as having no tackles, does anyone know how many plays he played? I was excited about him but haven't seen him on the field.

harrison'samonster
11-04-2012, 11:05 PM
I haven't heard much of him either this year. I did notice on 3rd downs when Hampton came out, it seemed like the Steelers just went with two linemen instead of putting McClendon in.

Steelersfan87
11-05-2012, 03:26 AM
Steelers Depot (www.steelersdepot.com) logs snap counts for every single game for every player. Keep an eye open on that site. I'm sure he'll have his participation charts for the game up in a day or two. McLendon pressured Manning on his interception, btw.

Steeldude
11-05-2012, 04:01 AM
. McLendon pressured Manning on his interception, btw.

Which means he will receive less playing time and the gelatinous Hampton will receive more.

VaDave
11-05-2012, 07:43 AM
There has got to be a story here. It's pretty obvious why Hayward isn't playing, he's even softer than Hood, but McClendon being on the bench is a puzzler for sure.

Blitzberg06
11-05-2012, 10:02 AM
I use him in Madden 13.. The guy has 8 sacks on the season for me :applaudit:


As far as real life.. He will replace Hampton and do fine.

SteelersCanada
11-05-2012, 10:14 AM
There has got to be a story here. It's pretty obvious why Hayward isn't playing, he's even softer than Hood, but McClendon being on the bench is a puzzler for sure.

Wait, what? Whenever Heyward is on the field he's generating more pressure and shedding blocks easier than Keisel. He's young and developing behind veteran guys, but he'll start next year along with McLendon and Hood.

I don't understand the hate for Heyward at all. He's shown flashes of excellence when he gets snaps.

madtowndrunkard
11-05-2012, 10:28 AM
I think Heyward struggles to play disciplined 3-4 style football.

The mental aspect of the game is more important to DL then the physical aspect. Sure you can be a playmaker, but if you are making mental mistakes , then you are also a liability. DL has been here for many years and always coaches his defense like that.

Case in point... Larry Foote... he would not start on most teams. But to DL he doesn't make many mistakes.... he's were he's suppose to be. He doesn't hurt the team. Maybe at some point Heyward will be mentally ready, as of now he's not. I have no problem with DL's philosophy. It's worked out pretty well for DL so far. The guy is one of the best D-coordinators in the history of the game...and he's still out coaching his MUCH younger counterparts.

tony hipchest
11-05-2012, 11:06 AM
I think Heyward struggles to play disciplined 3-4 style football.

The mental aspect of the game is more important to DL then the physical aspect. Sure you can be a playmaker, but if you are making mental mistakes , then you are also a liability. DL has been here for many years and always coaches his defense like that.

Case in point... Larry Foote... he would not start on most teams. But to DL he doesn't make many mistakes.... he's were he's suppose to be. He doesn't hurt the team. Maybe at some point Heyward will be mentally ready, as of now he's not. I have no problem with DL's philosophy. It's worked out pretty well for DL so far. The guy is one of the best D-coordinators in the history of the game...and he's still out coaching his MUCH younger counterparts.

well said... :applaudit:

Riddle_Of_Steel
11-05-2012, 02:27 PM
So what, specifically, did you guys see in Heyward's play that tells you he is not mentally disciplined?

I have seen him get about 5 snaps per game tops, and as soon as he is in there, the pocket for the opposing QB gets smaller, and Harrison gets more pressure because Heyward does a better job eating up blockers right now than Kiesel.

But admittedly, I am no coach, nor am I watching just Heyward specifically.

Fire Arians
11-05-2012, 02:46 PM
So what, specifically, did you guys see in Heyward's play that tells you he is not mentally disciplined?

I have seen him get about 5 snaps per game tops, and as soon as he is in there, the pocket for the opposing QB gets smaller, and Harrison gets more pressure because Heyward does a better job eating up blockers right now than Kiesel.

But admittedly, I am no coach, nor am I watching just Heyward specifically.

he doesn't know the playbook in swahili yet. he only knows it in english, german, spanish, japanese, sign language, and squirrel noises

El-Gonzo Jackson
11-05-2012, 05:40 PM
So what, specifically, did you guys see in Heyward's play that tells you he is not mentally disciplined?

I have seen him get about 5 snaps per game tops, and as soon as he is in there, the pocket for the opposing QB gets smaller, and Harrison gets more pressure because Heyward does a better job eating up blockers right now than Kiesel.

But admittedly, I am no coach, nor am I watching just Heyward specifically.

I'm seeing similar as you. I think Heyward pushes the pocket and eats up blockers better than Hood. I honestly think he should see more snaps than Hood.

As for the Larry Foote reference by another poster. I consistently see Foote getting handled by blockers and at times he doesnt take on the block, he just runs to the hole and stops moving his feet. Larry Foote is only effective as a blitzer.

Curtain_of_Steel
11-05-2012, 05:43 PM
Hampton had a very nice game. He stepped it up big time. Have togive him props.

Millers the sh!t
11-05-2012, 05:58 PM
I use him in Madden 13.. The guy has 8 sacks on the season for me :applaudit:


As far as real life.. He will replace Hampton and do fine.

I agree with your opinion about Mclendon replacing Casey Hamburger. Maybe next season...... Until then, you can just call Mclendon, hamburger helper

Also, your Sig Avatar is ****ing nasty man. I love it.

Rotorhead
11-05-2012, 06:31 PM
I actually Big Snack was maybe hampered by his knee injury earlier this season, maybe he will be back to his old self from now on as he was in this game, he definately was on his game, our Def is rounding out nicely right now and it is showing on the field. Barring any more major injuries we are going to continue a nice W streak i think.

Steelersfan87
11-05-2012, 11:11 PM
Hampton has strung together several solid games in a row now.

By the way, McLendon played 6 snaps. Heyward 5. Jason Worilds subbed Woodley on 13 plays (out of 51).

tony hipchest
11-05-2012, 11:20 PM
hampton would probably start 2-3 more years for the patriots and probably be an upgrade to the ravens terrence cody (someone many steelerfans wanted drafted as hamptons replacement several years back).

steelerfans trash will probably be another teams treasure.

austinfrench76
11-06-2012, 04:21 PM
Mclendon has been a beast from what I've seen and I don't think there has been any evidence that Heyward is soft. He has shown flashes but as always, he sits because there are people in front of him. Not because they are better players but becasue of their tenure and Lebeau's love for them. We are fine, in my opinion, for the next several years on the DLine. And Aaron Smith is not coming back and don't expect those results from anyone. He is widely regarded as one of the best 3-4 lineman to ever play the game so it's unrealistic.

SteeleReign
11-06-2012, 05:29 PM
he doesn't know the playbook in swahili yet. he only knows it in english, german, spanish, japanese, sign language, and squirrel noises

SQUIRREL NOISES?!?!?! I honestly just about crapped. :rofl:

steelers33
11-06-2012, 05:44 PM
It's been concerning for me for a while that Hampton and Keisel are still starting over McClendon and Heyward.

Hawaii 5-0
11-06-2012, 08:01 PM
It's been concerning for me for a while that Hampton and Keisel are still starting over McClendon and Heyward.

Hampton had by far his best game of the season against the Giants.

teegre
11-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Hampton had by far his best game of the season against the Giants.

First off, I am no fan of Casey the Hutt. I think that he should have been benched/cut a season or three ago.

BUT...

One thing that someone said to me, that kind of makes sense: Casey is looking healhtier than he did a few weeks ago. Maybe his knee is just now starting to get healthy.