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Darkstorm05
11-08-2012, 03:00 PM
ESPN has a midseason top 50 players list up. You need membership access to see the whole thing, but lame part is that they ranked Ben at 10th, right below Eli Manning. IMO, Ben rules Eli every day of the week, and as it turns out, twice on Sunday.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8578446/aaron-rodgers-no-1-midseason-top-50-rankings-nfl

Blitzberg06
11-08-2012, 03:53 PM
Ben is having a MVP Season. Sadly he won't get it because of Manning. Ben is a beast. Best 3rd down QB in the league and also seriously showing why he should be in the top 5 conversation this year.

austinfrench76
11-08-2012, 05:01 PM
Most people, IMO, don't give him his due. He is still a joke to them because of the off the field issues. I get that part of it but if you look at the "field only" - he is having an MVP season. By the time it's all said and done, he will have more rings than Brady and the Mannings and will he an HOF'er. BUT, the off the field stuff haunts him. That's my belief. And the NFL network is even worse. That panel 1st of all is AWFUL (they all sound like they have marbles in their smouths) and they never give Ben really any credit until recently. Even then, it's back-handed. Again, I think the off the field stuff really hurts him.

tony hipchest
11-08-2012, 05:01 PM
ESPN has pulled his This is Sportscenter commercial from his second season out of retirement again...

showin some love.

fer522
11-08-2012, 05:42 PM
Who care if he they don't think he's a top 5 Qb
We know how good he is but more importantly
Players around the league know how good he REALLY is

lipps83
11-08-2012, 05:50 PM
Why do Steeler fans take this kind of stuff personally?

Stu Pidasso
11-08-2012, 06:35 PM
PEOPLE!!! It's all about LOCATION.

ESPN is based in BOSTON.

Need I say more?

Fire Arians
11-08-2012, 06:39 PM
Why do Steeler fans take this kind of stuff personally?

i don't get it either, the team plays better when the media disses them, so i actually like when ESPN isn't giving the credit we're due

TRH
11-08-2012, 06:59 PM
while they don't talk about him like they do Brady, Manning, Newton, Romo, RGIII, and now Luck - they have been mentioning him more than they used to (but still not nearly enough as they should...he absolutely belongs in that daily discussion with those others)

On a good note - Greenie from the Mike & Mike show has been praising him up and down the last few weeks. He keeps saying he'd take Ben over Brady or any QB in the league when it comes to winning a game and that he's the best QB in the AFC.
I've heard him go to special lengths to make this point and discuss at least 3 times on the show over the last 2 weeks or so - and i haven't even seen alot of the show, so i'm sure there's been other Ben talk.

teegre
11-08-2012, 07:18 PM
10th overall sounds about right.

Personally, I think he is #1... but, I am admittedly biased. But, honestly, I can not see the media, or any unbiased person, putting several players ahead of BB (despite BB's gaudy 3rd down stats). BB is BB... he is not pretty; he just finds a way to convert thrid downs (& ways to win).

Here are some other players, in no particular order, who would be top ten. And, again, honestly, how could one not put them ahead (or on par) with BB.

Rodgers

Peyton is having a great comeback. That 35 point secodn half in SD was nuts. He HAS to be in the top three this year.

Charles Tillman. The dude is winning game by himself.

Brady is still Brady. Like him or not, the dude produces.

Breesus Christ. The Saints have NOTHING else.. and he still keeps it close.

AP

Eli. The dude is money in the fourth quarter.

Andrew Luck. Laugh if you want, the kid has the most long completitions and long attempts of anyone in the league. And, he took an abyssmal franchise and has them as the #5 seed in the play-offs. While he's not (yet) "better" than BB, I would say that this kid is having a "top ten" type of season.

SteelersCanada
11-08-2012, 07:29 PM
ESPN also employs Skip Bayless.

Take it with a grain of salt.

OX1947
11-08-2012, 08:44 PM
Who gives a **** what BSPN thinks. They are a tabloid news channel now.

Fire Arians
11-08-2012, 08:51 PM
Who gives a **** what BSPN thinks. They are a tabloid news channel now.

:chuckle:

madtowndrunkard
11-08-2012, 09:53 PM
10th overall sounds about right.

Personally, I think he is #1... but, I am admittedly biased. But, honestly, I can not see the media, or any unbiased person, putting several players ahead of BB (despite BB's gaudy 3rd down stats). BB is BB... he is not pretty; he just finds a way to convert thrid downs (& ways to win).

Here are some other players, in no particular order, who would be top ten. And, again, honestly, how could one not put them ahead (or on par) with BB.

Rodgers

Peyton is having a great comeback. That 35 point secodn half in SD was nuts. He HAS to be in the top three this year.

Charles Tillman. The dude is winning game by himself.

Brady is still Brady. Like him or not, the dude produces.

Breesus Christ. The Saints have NOTHING else.. and he still keeps it close.

AP

Eli. The dude is money in the fourth quarter.

Andrew Luck. Laugh if you want, the kid has the most long completitions and long attempts of anyone in the league. And, he took an abyssmal franchise and has them as the #5 seed in the play-offs. While he's not (yet) "better" than BB, I would say that this kid is having a "top ten" type of season.

He's a product of the system. :wink02:

cubanstogie
11-08-2012, 10:44 PM
I won't speak about ESPN because I cant watch them. I can barely watch any pre game analysis anymore. I will say Collinsworth, Simms and Prime time all seem to give Ben recognition. This year I have not heard a negative word about Ben. MVP season along with Peyton. My guess for the non love for Ben is because he isn't liked as much as guys like Ryan, Rivers or a Brees. You never hear the cliches thrown around such as, "he is a great young man", or pleasure to be around or other BS that these announcers spew. I don't live in Pittsburgh so I don't claim to no what is said from the local fans, restaurants, bars or other establishments that have dealings with him, maybe he has changed but based on a couple of years ago a friend in the sports business had nothing nice to say about the guy. With that said, I could care less. I am a Steelers fan and have been for 40 years, QB's come and go. I don't have to like Ben as a person to see he is a top 5 QB and probably top 3 in the league.Just my theory.

teegre
11-08-2012, 10:51 PM
He's a product of the system. :wink02:

LOL

Exactly.

Unlike most rookie QBs, he is given the entire playbook (not just 3 yard screens). In turn, he has more deep attempts than ANY other QB. I remember that in the pre-season, the veterans (eg Reggie Wayne, who is smart) couldn't keep up with his knowledge of the playbook. It's insane how good he is.

[He is the ONLY player for whom I'd EVER consider swapping BB... but, that's because Luck is 9 years younger... and, well, probably because Luck is unlike any QB that we've ever seen: Montana's savvy; BB's escapability; Cam Newton's athleticism; John Elway's arm; Aaron Rodgers' scrambling ability; and, Phil Simms' accuracy.]

Fire Arians
11-09-2012, 12:16 AM
andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great

Hawaii 5-0
11-09-2012, 12:20 AM
andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great

people are saying Arians is doing a great job as HC of the Colts.

I say he just has LUCK.

SteelersCanada
11-09-2012, 12:22 AM
andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great

Know who else would look good against the Jags' secondary? Anyone. ****ing anyone. Blaine Gabbert would look elite if he could throw against his own secondary and have to dodge pressure from that abortion that is that front 7.

JeromeBetties63
11-09-2012, 12:28 AM
ESPN has a midseason top 50 players list up. You need membership access to see the whole thing, but lame part is that they ranked Ben at 10th, right below Eli Manning. IMO, Ben rules Eli every day of the week, and as it turns out, twice on Sunday.


http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8578446/aaron-rodgers-no-1-midseason-top-50-rankings-nfl

Even though they don't mention it, Ben's off the field history is always going to keep him down.

Lady Steel
11-09-2012, 02:31 AM
PEOPLE!!! It's all about LOCATION.

ESPN is based in BOSTON.

Nope. Bristol, Connecticut, but yeah, still New England territory.

TRH
11-09-2012, 01:26 PM
andrew luck is for real, he's got potential to be great


yeah - and he's now getting more airtime attention than Brady, Brees, Rogers, and Manning combined.
Man, i like the kid....but its getting ab-solutely ridiculous. I try to catch some news and sports on the shows and they can't even go barely 3 minutes without talking about Luck.

But, like i said before - Ben gets a ton of heaping praise on the Mike & Mike show on ESPN2

Fire Arians
11-09-2012, 01:30 PM
yeah - and he's now getting more airtime attention than Brady, Brees, Rogers, and Manning combined.
Man, i like the kid....but its getting ab-solutely ridiculous. I try to catch some news and sports on the shows and they can't even go barely 3 minutes without talking about Luck.

But, like i said before - Ben gets a ton of heaping praise on the Mike & Mike show on ESPN2

true but at least it's someone who deserves credit, unlike last year it was all tebowmania, someone who sucked and probably didn't do anything to help his team, but somehow they just won games (not because of him)