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BlaZeQuietly
11-20-2012, 12:30 PM
From what I've heard he was undrafted in 09 and only started 5 games in college. WTF are the steelers doing? If Ben is really going to be out the rest of the season including post season then I understand, but if we are trying to compete why not get a QB knows how to play. Someone mentioned Mcnabb, I dont know about that but sounds better than an undrafted free agent. Whats the plan then Batch is our number 1, Hoyer number 2 and Dixon 3? I Doesnt really matter if Ben isnt coming back.

Terminator
11-20-2012, 12:44 PM
Dixon is staying with the Ravens. As of right now, we have 2 quarterbacks that are game-ready. Batch and Hoyer.

Darkstorm05
11-20-2012, 12:50 PM
Try and keep in mind we only had 2 mil left to spend. And that was before we paid whatever league minimum is for Plaxico. The choice was "Who is the least shitty QB that can sit on the bench behind Batch for 1 mil?".

BlaZeQuietly
11-20-2012, 12:54 PM
We need ben back bad :(

Kingmagyar
11-20-2012, 01:01 PM
Hardly even had the college career of a Jerrod Johnson who at least looked pretty good in the pre-season and knows Hailey's offense. Speaking of knowing Hailey's offense there is Tyler Palko. The Steelers have to think in terms of a guy that can play if and when Batch is hurt. Hoyer would have been good as a guy signed sept 1st, what can he possibly do now? Unless Ben is planning on being back after Cleveland this movie is questionable for the here and now.

Also the team should not cut a valuable younger player to keep Leftwich. Lefty is history as a QB in this league. 0-7 his last 7 starts.

outside info:
Opinions on Hoyer are varied. Mike Lombardi of NFL.com, who has worked in teams' front offices before, famously said last year that if he we were with a team he would have chased Hoyer over then-Eagles quarterback Kevin Kolb via a trade.

I do not see Hoyer as a player with the “it” factor as an NFL starting quarterback. He has progressed well in the Patriots system over his four years since signing as an undrafted free agent in 2009, but that still of course has not raised his ability and talent levels.

Overview

Despite less than impressive statistics as a senior (51 percent completion rate, nine touchdowns and nine interceptions), Hoyer ranks as one of the more intriguing senior quarterbacks prospects due to his combination of size, arm-strength and accuracy. With so many college offenses predicated on the spread attack, some scouts are especially willing to give Hoyer a bit of a break with regards to his senior year statistics because of the Spartans' run-first offense and his receivers' propensity to drop passes.

nfl draft report

Positives: At least adequate height and bulk for the position. Efficient game-manager. Reads defenses well and checks down quickly. Efficient setup and delivery. Good footwork. Over the top release. Throws the ball with enough zip to make every NFL throw. Good overall accuracy, especially in the short to intermediate areas. Can step up in the pocket to avoid the pass rush. Keeps his eyes downfield. Delivers a catchable ball that allows his receivers to make yardage after the catch. Stood out at the East-West Shrine Game practices as the group's best and most consistent passer.

Negatives: Wildly inconsistent. Doesn't sense the pocket collapsing and will take the big hit. Has struggled with locking onto his primary receiver at times. Blessed with an NFL-caliber receiver and tight end in 2007 and struggled in 2008 without them. Has enough tools to consider late, but isn't special in terms of arm strength, size or accuracy. Struggled a bit in both of his bowl game starts, finishing with two touchdowns to five interceptions in a pair of losses.

more on him at wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Hoyer

Fire Arians
11-20-2012, 01:06 PM
he musta did better in the workouts than kafka

nj1923steelgirl
11-20-2012, 04:16 PM
Ben we need you!

FrancoLambert
11-20-2012, 04:52 PM
"Desperate times call for desperate measures."
We're desperate.

Dino 6 Rings
11-20-2012, 05:02 PM
Whatever, doesn't matter, as long as we don't turn it over and can stop stupid punt return TDs from happening we should be able to beat the Browns. Our defense will of coarse need to force the Rookie into a few mistakes, keep it a short field for the offense, and we should be able to win the game with Batch, or Hoyer, or Joe Schlump da Midget as the QB.

zcoop
11-22-2012, 07:27 AM
This is the kind of shit we get when we put all our eggs in one basket. Failing to plan is planning to fail. We did not give Dixon or Johnson a decent shot to be backup, we decided to keep old dilapidated backups over youth.

Biran Hoyer ain't worth a damn. We've gone from sugar to shit in a very short clip.

Ricco Suavez
11-22-2012, 10:26 AM
This is the kind of shit we get when we put all our eggs in one basket. Failing to plan is planning to fail. We did not give Dixon or Johnson a decent shot to be backup, we decided to keep old dilapidated backups over youth.

Biran Hoyer ain't worth a damn. We've gone from sugar to shit in a very short clip.

Hey don't sugar coat it, I mean tell us how you REAALLY feel.:rofl:

Terminator
11-22-2012, 11:28 AM
For what it's worth, Brian Hoyer studied under Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. That's gotta count for something.

Also, there was originally talk that Jim Harbaugh wanted Hoyer to eventually be the replacement for Alex Smith.

ChristianKustomz
11-22-2012, 02:44 PM
You mean you Wont miss Leftwich?...who will...

mikegrimey
11-22-2012, 02:53 PM
This is the kind of shit we get when we put all our eggs in one basket. Failing to plan is planning to fail. We did not give Dixon or Johnson a decent shot to be backup, we decided to keep old dilapidated backups over youth.

Biran Hoyer ain't worth a damn. We've gone from sugar to shit in a very short clip.

This is supposing that Dixon or Johnson would be any better than Leftwich or Batch. The steelers aren't alone in not valuing Johnson, he plays in the UFl. Dixon wasn't on anyone's team either until Roethlisberger went down... Right now he's on the practice squad of our biggest foe, not in any position to be handed the reigns any time soon.

Winning with a backup QB is more about how the team pulls together without their leader, there aren't many dynamic back ups in the league. The defense stepped up in Bens absence, but the offense and especially the special teams fell short. Our backup situation really hasn't been handled poorly, again, a dynamic backup is the exception, not the standard in the NFL.

steelersfan77
11-22-2012, 03:57 PM
This is supposing that Dixon or Johnson would be any better than Leftwich or Batch. The steelers aren't alone in not valuing Johnson, he plays in the UFl. Dixon wasn't on anyone's team either until Roethlisberger went down... Right now he's on the practice squad of our biggest foe, not in any position to be handed the reigns any time soon.

Winning with a backup QB is more about how the team pulls together without their leader, there aren't many dynamic back ups in the league. The defense stepped up in Bens absence, but the offense and especially the special teams fell short. Our backup situation really hasn't been handled poorly, again, a dynamic backup is the exception, not the standard in the NFL.

That about sums it up. 30 out of 32 teams in the NFL fail to win most games with a backup quarterback.