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BlaZeQuietly
11-20-2012, 03:34 PM
Ed Reed Un-Suspended

wah.

silver & black
11-20-2012, 03:41 PM
Good.

BlaZeQuietly
11-20-2012, 03:43 PM
Good.

Traitor:mad:

silver & black
11-20-2012, 05:01 PM
Traitor:mad:

??? sorry, I thought it was bullshit from the start. Just like I think most of Harrison's fines were bullshit.

Stu Pidasso
11-23-2012, 09:25 PM
Let's see what happens next time Clark hits someone. The NFL just set a precedent. "Yeah he has 142 helmet to helmet fouled against him, but he's an okay guy, he didn't mean to do it. Pizza party on him this weekend at league headquarters."

BlaZeQuietly
11-23-2012, 10:11 PM
??? sorry, I thought it was bullshit from the start. Just like I think most of Harrison's fines were bullshit.

Yeah it was BS just like Harrisons but did Harrisons get over turned? why? because hes a steeler.

steelerchad
11-24-2012, 08:34 AM
I think this un suspension causes more confusion now. What's a penalty?, What's a fine? What's a suspension?
I have no idea and I don't think most fans do either.
I think this ruling may actually hurt Reed and the Ravens. Reed now has to think the next thing he does and he'll be gone. Maybe he plays tentative. Maybe he doesn't and gets bumped for a later, more important game against the Steelers or Bengals.

silver & black
11-24-2012, 08:41 AM
Yeah it was BS just like Harrisons but did Harrisons get over turned? why? because hes a steeler.

You guys have to quit with the "because it's the Steelers" BS. That doesn't fly with a Raiders fan..... NO ONE has been f**ked more than the Raiders by bullshit calls, obscure rules and/or phantom penalties. :wink02: You guys think the league is out to get you :sofunny:. You are just rookies in that arena, compared to the Raiders!:chuckle: No team was ever more hated and "gone after" by the league, than the Raiders.

Harrison didn't help his cause any with his remarks about wanting to hurt the guys he hits. Yes, I know what he meant, and I think he's right, but I'm sure it didn't sit well with Goodell. It's not right, but sometimes you gotta know when to "play the game", so to speak.

TRH
11-24-2012, 01:27 PM
You guys have to quit with the "because it's the Steelers" BS. That doesn't fly with a Raiders fan..... NO ONE has been f**ked more than the Raiders by bullshit calls, obscure rules and/or phantom penalties. :wink02: You guys think the league is out to get you :sofunny:. You are just rookies in that arena, compared to the Raiders!:chuckle: No team was ever more hated and "gone after" by the league, than the Raiders.

Harrison didn't help his cause any with his remarks about wanting to hurt the guys he hits. Yes, I know what he meant, and I think he's right, but I'm sure it didn't sit well with Goodell. It's not right, but sometimes you gotta know when to "play the game", so to speak.


i've followed both teams very closely for a long time. I disagree (highly) with what you just stated. The Raiders are not ANY more hated by others than the Steelers are (although many, many more people love the Steeler teams).
Both teams get their fair share of bad breaks, bias calls & fines, & excessive penalty flags.
Either "side" could argue that their team gets f***ed more than the other team. Neither are "rookies" as you stated in comparison with the other.

TRH
11-24-2012, 01:31 PM
I think this un suspension causes more confusion now. What's a penalty?, What's a fine? What's a suspension?
I have no idea and I don't think most fans do either.
I think this ruling may actually hurt Reed and the Ravens. Reed now has to think the next thing he does and he'll be gone. Maybe he plays tentative. Maybe he doesn't and gets bumped for a later, more important game against the Steelers or Bengals.



i agree completely. And further "questions" arise.
Would Harrison be "un" suspended? Is this favoring one player over another in any regard?
The NFL has got this one a complete, tangled, and complicated mess that will be very, very difficult to set straight.....even if they try and it takes a very long time.
Attorney's will eventually be involved - pulling all kinds of film from the player in question to other player's specific plays, actions, intents. etc, etc, etc.
WHAT a mess.......

ricardisimo
11-24-2012, 02:08 PM
You guys have to quit with the "because it's the Steelers" BS. That doesn't fly with a Raiders fan..... NO ONE has been f**ked more than the Raiders by bullshit calls, obscure rules and/or phantom penalties. :wink02: You guys think the league is out to get you :sofunny:. You are just rookies in that arena, compared to the Raiders!:chuckle: No team was ever more hated and "gone after" by the league, than the Raiders.

Harrison didn't help his cause any with his remarks about wanting to hurt the guys he hits. Yes, I know what he meant, and I think he's right, but I'm sure it didn't sit well with Goodell. It's not right, but sometimes you gotta know when to "play the game", so to speak.
If Goodell wants to be taken seriously in his contention that player safety is the goal, then he shouldn't be concerned with how politically astute James Harrison is or isn't. A helmet-to-helmet hit is a helmet-to-helmet no matter what the guy says during his press conference the next day.

GoFor7
11-24-2012, 02:16 PM
Instead of Goodell handing down fines/suspensions, I'd like to see a three-man panel do it. There would likely be more consistency in player punishment, so we wouldn't see someone who was only accused of a crime get a four game suspension and someone who shoots a gun in the general direction of innocent people gets nothing.

silver & black
11-24-2012, 02:32 PM
If Goodell wants to be taken seriously in his contention that player safety is the goal, then he shouldn't be concerned with how politically astute James Harrison is or isn't. A helmet-to-helmet hit is a helmet-to-helmet no matter what the guy says during his press conference the next day.

I agree, but, we all know what we're dealing with, in Goodell.

silver & black
11-24-2012, 02:34 PM
[QUOTE=GoFor7;1052555]Instead of Goodell handing down fines/suspensions, I'd like to see a three-man panel do it. There would likely be more consistency in player punishment, so we wouldn't see someone who was only accused of a crime get a four game suspension and someone who shoots a gun in the general direction of innocent people gets nothing.[/QUOTE

Again, I agree.

silver & black
11-24-2012, 02:39 PM
i've followed both teams very closely for a long time. I disagree (highly) with what you just stated. The Raiders are not ANY more hated by others than the Steelers are (although many, many more people love the Steeler teams).
Both teams get their fair share of bad breaks, bias calls & fines, & excessive penalty flags.
Either "side" could argue that their team gets f***ed more than the other team. Neither are "rookies" as you stated in comparison with the other.

You can highly disagree all you want. I've followed the Raiders for over 4 decades. I know which team gets/has gotten shit on more than any other in this league.

I never said the Steelers didn't/don't get their share of shit calls, fines, etc....

I'm not going to do it, but I bet if someone wanted to research it, it wouldn't even be close as to which team gets/got screwed the most over the last 40+ years.

WVABE
11-24-2012, 05:13 PM
You can highly disagree all you want. I've followed the Raiders for over 4 decades. I know which team gets/has gotten shit on more than any other in this league.

I never said the Steelers didn't/don't get their share of shit calls, fines, etc....

I'm not going to do it, but I bet if someone wanted to research it, it wouldn't even be close as to which team gets/got screwed the most over the last 40+ years.You'll probably get screwed again next year if yall pick up Wallace.

lloydwoodson
11-25-2012, 05:48 PM
You can highly disagree all you want. I've followed the Raiders for over 4 decades. I know which team gets/has gotten shit on more than any other in this league.

I never said the Steelers didn't/don't get their share of shit calls, fines, etc....

I'm not going to do it, but I bet if someone wanted to research it, it wouldn't even be close as to which team gets/got screwed the most over the last 40+ years.

I would vote for the Raiders as teams that got screwed the most. The tiebreaker between Raiders and Steelers would go to the loser of the Immaculate Reception call... the Raiders. Brady's tuck rule was the most bs call of all time.