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lamberts-lost-tooth
08-10-2006, 11:49 AM
With all the talk on who will stay and who will be gone in a couple of years (particularly Ike Taylor) I thought you all would like to see who is making what and be able to use the numbers to make an informed opinion.

*Disclaimer* I cant vouch for the figures (things may have changed since this article was written) but it does give a rough estimate.
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(I tried to weed out those players that I knew where gone..but may have overlooked some..so mentally cut those that the coach has physically cut):smile:

PLAYER___POS______CAP VALUE_________BASE SALARY_____SIGNING
Ben R.-----QB---------$4,545,850-------------$655,500-----------$1,547,400
Charlie B QB $976,666 $710,000 $266,666
Omar J QB $38,333 $275,000 $38,333
Duce S RB $2,671,250 $1,500,000 $1,171,250
Willie P RB $425,000 $425,000
Dan Kr RB $1,150,000 $940,000 $210,000
Verron H RB $757,500 $595,000 $162,500
Cedric H RB $10,000 $275,000 $10,000
Heath M TE $1,235,500 $373,000 $862,500
Jerame T TE $1,050,000 $750,000 $300,000
Hines W WR $6,083,333 $2,750,000 $2,000,000
Cedrick W WR $1,975,000 $1,475,000 $500,000
Nate W WR $1,250 $350,000 $1,250
Quincy M WR $465,000 $585,000 $40,000
Santonio H WR $1,037,934
Willie Reid WR $426,033 $275,000 $151,033
Marvel S OL $6,595,500 $4,400,000 $2,195,500
Alan F OL $5,947,750 $3,700,000 $1,597,750
Jeff H OL $6,454,166 $2,200,000 $4,254,166
Kendall S OL $1,335,664 $800,000 $535,664
Max S OL $601,667 $425,000 $176,667
Trai Essex OL $503,333 $350,000 $153,333
Chris K OL $370,583 $350,000 $20,583
Chukky O OL $1,041,083 $585,000 $456,083
Willie C OL $369,500 $275,000 $94,500
Ike Taylor CB $1,573,000 $1,573,000
Deshea T CB $1,282,500 $710,000 $572,500
Bryant M CB $619,750 $350,000 $269,750
Ricardo C CB $1,018,063 $425,000 $474,450
Chidi I CB $610,000 $585,000 $25,000
Troy P S $2,247,500 $827,000 $1,089,000
Ryan C S $1,062,500 $650,000 $412,500
Tyrone C S $697,500 $625,000 $47,500
Mike L S $465,000 $710,000 $40,000
Anthony S S $448,833 $275,000 $173,833
Clark H LB $3,736,666 $2,200,000 $1,236,666
James F LB $4,158,750 $2,900,000 $1,258,750
Larry F LB $2,825,000 $2,175,000 $650,000
Joey P LB $5,462,083 $3,850,000 $1,387,083
James H LB $768,750 $425,000 $343,750
Clint K LB $976,666 $710,000 $266,666
Rian W LB $387,167 $350,000 $37,167
Andre F LB $2,750 $350,000 $2,750
Aaron S DE $5,860,666 $4,500,000 $1,360,666
Casey H DT $4,993,750 $3,250,000 $1,543,750
Brett K DE $1,482,500 $660,000 $822,500
Travis K DE $2,103,333 $1,550,000 $553,333
Rodney B DE $465,000 $585,000 $40,000
Chris H DT $966,667 $800,000 $166,667
Orien H DE $92,666 $275,000 $92,666
Chris Gi P $1,301,250 $1,088,750 $212,500
Jeff Reed K $1,565,000 $1,250,000 $300,000
Greg W LS $1,750 $350,000 $1,750
53 ROSTER - CUT
Shane B QB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Branden J RB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
John Kuhn RB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Doug E RB $1,000 $350,000 $1,000
Isaac S TE $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Charles D TE $34,666 $275,000 $34,666
Jon D TE $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Sean M WR $722,000 $722,000
Lee M WR $425,000 $500,000
Eugene B WR $425,000 $585,000
Adam H WR $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Isaac W WR $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Walter Y WR $1,000 $350,000 $1,000
Barrett B OL $465,000 $810,000 $40,000
Brandon N OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Ulish B OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Tim Brown OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Brandon T OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Nick H OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Grayling L OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Marvin P OL $19,716 $275,000 $19,716
Kyle A OL $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Anthony M CB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Zach B S $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Mike L S $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Arnold H LB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Richard S LB $1,000 $350,000 $1,000
Ronald S LB $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Shaun N DE $1,000 $350,000 $1,000
Lee V DE $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Scott P DT $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Mike B P $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
Mark B K $1,000 $275,000 $1,000
DEAD MONEY
Noah H RB $20,667
Shuan N DE $20,667
Tommy M QB $1,100,000
Willie W CB $250,000
Jerome B RB $1,100,000
Mike L S $283,333
ESTIMATE –SFA/UDFA 2005 ALL $35,000
Matt K TE $20,000
Alonzo J LB $260,750
Fred G WR $197,333


Workout Bonuses ALL $150,000

TOTAL CAP $98,800,087

NFL SALARY CAP $102,000,000
STEELER ADJ ($1,533,794)
STEELER CAP $100,466,206

STEELER $1,666,119


***Thanks to AZ Steeler for the link****
I also apologize for the format...cant get it to line up even with microsoft excell

AZ_Steeler
08-10-2006, 12:04 PM
Here is a site that includes updates with Rookie figures included. Last updated July 29, 2006.

http://www.geocities.com/steelersalarycap/index.html

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-10-2006, 12:08 PM
Here is a site that includes updates with Rookie figures included. Last updated July 29, 2006.

http://www.geocities.com/steelersalarycap/index.html

I will have to do some research but I was more concerned as to who may leave to free up enough money to keep some of our better young players...the rookie figures wont effect that outcome as much...but I will see what I can find

AZ_Steeler
08-10-2006, 12:21 PM
When you look at the Steelers roster there is a lot of talent on there and guys that you know could be difficult to cut because they could end up somewhere else. I would like to see some guys go, just because they are reaching the peak of the coaster, so we can retain a lot of our younger talent that has shown great promises (Tayler, McFadden, Smith).

I know the Steelers always seem to do well with the draft, but this current roster definitely has some talent that's going to be tough to keep because of all the other super stars who's rookie contracts will be coming to end and will hopefully remain Steelers for a long time to come.

I wouldn't want to be working the FO over the next few years because there is going to be some really tough decisions to make. Of course we all would like to see everyone stick around but it just doesn't seem possible.

19ward86
08-10-2006, 01:44 PM
this is insane, arent the steelers known for their low pay for players. how can we only have 1 million left but the bungles that signed carson to a 116mil contract arent in this bad of shape.we do pay our lineman very well but bens contract is like todays 1st round rookie. and ward isnt getting top dollar either. all the numbers really confuse me. im glad i seen the payout to know why we are this close to losing porter. i just dont understand how one team can pay out huge contracts to 10-15 guys yet not be over but we can. this always bugged me.

tony hipchest
08-10-2006, 01:53 PM
Aaron S DE $5,860,666 $4,500,000 $1,360,666

no wonder aaron smith just quietly goes about his job. he dont want anyone to know how much he makes. the steelers payscale proves they think it all starts with the men in the trenches

Midnightwriter07
08-10-2006, 02:04 PM
doesnt it all start in the trenches on both sides of the ball ?

AZ_Steeler
08-10-2006, 02:05 PM
this is insane, arent the steelers known for their low pay for players. how can we only have 1 million left but the bungles that signed carson to a 116mil contract arent in this bad of shape.we do pay our lineman very well but bens contract is like todays 1st round rookie. and ward isnt getting top dollar either. all the numbers really confuse me. im glad i seen the payout to know why we are this close to losing porter. i just dont understand how one team can pay out huge contracts to 10-15 guys yet not be over but we can. this always bugged me.

A lot of those teams that you're talking about do a lot of finagling with the contracts and are usually back end loaded. Meaning by the time the back end of the contract comes around that player is going to get cut and the team will pay the difference or they can be traded away, but good luck finding someone to take over the ridiculous contract.

A prime example of this is the 49ers, they are now paying the price though because the outrageous contracts can't last forever and you usually end up suffering in the long run. Next to follow suit will be the Redskins.

What these teams try and do is build a winning ball club, get the ring, and fall back to mediocre.

Cape Cod Steel Head
08-10-2006, 02:06 PM
Aaron S DE $5,860,666 $4,500,000 $1,360,666

no wonder aaron smith just quietly goes about his job. he dont want anyone to know how much he makes. the steelers payscale proves they think it all starts with the men in the trenchesAnd it does!

Midnightwriter07
08-10-2006, 02:14 PM
Of course i am bias, but we seriously have Pro Bowl talent at each position on both sides of our line. Each and every position.

19ward86
08-10-2006, 06:51 PM
A lot of those teams that you're talking about do a lot of finagling with the contracts and are usually back end loaded. Meaning by the time the back end of the contract comes around that player is going to get cut and the team will pay the difference or they can be traded away, but good luck finding someone to take over the ridiculous contract.

A prime example of this is the 49ers, they are now paying the price though because the outrageous contracts can't last forever and you usually end up suffering in the long run. Next to follow suit will be the Redskins.

What these teams try and do is build a winning ball club, get the ring, and fall back to mediocre.

yeah, that is what happened with edge and the colts.