View Full Version : 'Everyone in US under virtual surveillance' - NSA whistleblower

tony hipchest
12-05-2012, 09:18 AM
nothing too shocking or that we really didnt know, but interesting nonetheless-


The FBI records the emails of nearly all US citizens, including members of congress, according to NSA whistleblower William Binney. In an interview with RT, he warned that the government can use this information against anyone.
Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the Constitution, such as how the FBI engages in widespread and pervasive surveillance through powerful devices called 'Naris.'

This year, Binney received the Callaway award, an annual prize that recognizes those who champion constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives.
RT: In light of the Petraeus/Allen scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama, one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power, the reach of the surveillance state. I mean if we take General Allen Ė thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence. Itís not like any of those men was planning an attack on America. Does the scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state?
William Binney: Yes, thatís what Iíve been basically saying for quite some time, is that the FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it. All the congressional members are on the surveillance too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason Ė they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything theyíve done for the last 10 years at least.
RT: And itís not just about those, who could be planning, who could be a threat to national security, but also those, who could be justÖ
WB: Itís everybody. The Naris device, if it takes in the entire line, so it takes in all the data. In fact they advertised they can process the lines at session rates, which means 10-gigabit lines. I forgot the name of the device (itís not the Naris) Ė the other one does it at 10 gigabits. Thatís why they're building Bluffdale [database facility], because they have to have more storage, because they canít figure out whatís important, so they are just storing everything there. So, emails are going to be stored there in the future, but right now stored in different places around the country. But it is being collected Ė and the FBI has access to it.

RT: You mean itís being collected in bulk without even requesting providers?
WB: Yes.

RT: Then what about Google, you know, releasing this biannual transparency report and saying that the governmentís demands for personal data is at an all-time high and for all of those requesting the US, Google says they complied with the governmentís demands 90 percent of the time. But they are still saying that they are making the request, itís not like itís all being funneled into that storage. What do you say to that?
WB: I would assume that itís just simply another source for the same data they are already collecting. My line is in declarations in a court about the 18-T facility in San Francisco, that documented the NSA room inside that AST&T facility, where they had Naris devices to collect data off the fiber optic lines inside the United States. So, thatís kind of a powerful device, that would collect everything it was being sent. It could collect on the order over of 100 billion 1,000-character emails a day. One device.

RT: You say they sift through billions of e-mails. I wonder how do they prioritize? How do they filter it?

12-05-2012, 11:00 AM
Better start watching you p's & q's. Next step people disappearing gestapo style.


Of course obaama could put an end to it with one of his favorite tools, the executive order. Which isn't going to happen.

Fire Haley
12-05-2012, 11:14 AM
ha ha ha

they'll never find me here!

Atlanta Dan
12-05-2012, 10:41 PM
ha ha ha

they'll never find me here!

Famous last words:coffee:

12-10-2012, 07:32 AM
Killer? Are you there? Killer.....?

12-10-2012, 07:35 AM
I think they got Vinny, too.

12-10-2012, 07:37 AM
I think they got Vinny, too.

Now I'm ambivalent

12-11-2012, 09:47 AM
I think they got Vinny, too.

Thank you for your concern Ric, but I don't show up on the radar.

12-11-2012, 11:43 AM
Thank you for your concern Ric, but I don't show up on the radar.

Or in mirrors

12-11-2012, 01:33 PM
Or in mirrors

Or on video. Finch finds that troubling.