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zcoop
12-09-2012, 09:25 PM
If AB had jumped on the ball in the end zone. That was a five point swing. I am surprised that it has not been mentioned here yet. Any comments?

btaylor179
12-09-2012, 09:34 PM
i mentioned it under another forum......falls on the coaches.....you learn in pee wee to kick that ball.....he wasnt gonna go anywhere running if hed picked it up.....crazy ass coaching decisions in game as well

ETL
12-09-2012, 09:41 PM
i think he was stunned that the whistle had not blown for an incomplete pass

if the call on the field was an incomplete pass - i don't think replay would have overturned it

tony hipchest
12-09-2012, 11:01 PM
those wr screens are always behind the line of scrimmage. thats why the receiver takes a step BACK to receive them. heath miller got blown up on the line and his ass was pushed back into the passing lane.

if it were called a forward pass (as much as i wish it were) it would have been the wrong call.

but to answer this thread....

shit happens. brown looked like he wanted to pick the ball up and either run it out, or throw it away.

it certainly wasnt his plan to give up 7 instead of 2.

other than a bad call at a bad time, antonio not falling on the ball or kicking it out of bounds cant be blamed on the coaches. thats on the player there.

ETL
12-09-2012, 11:16 PM
those wr screens are always behind the line of scrimmage. thats why the receiver takes a step BACK to receive them. heath miller got blown up on the line and his ass was pushed back into the passing lane.

if it were called a forward pass (as much as i wish it were) it would have been the wrong call.

but to answer this thread....

shit happens. brown looked like he wanted to pick the ball up and either run it out, or throw it away.

it certainly wasnt his plan to give up 7 instead of 2.

other than a bad call at a bad time, antonio not falling on the ball or kicking it out of bounds cant be blamed on the coaches. thats on the player there.

I think it was Paulson and not Miller that got his ass pushed back

tony hipchest
12-09-2012, 11:23 PM
you are right.

at first i thought it was miller (they physically appear very similar), but when they showed the replay it was #81.

LVSteelersfan
12-09-2012, 11:27 PM
Why the heck were they using Paulson on the goal line to try to block a WR screen? That is just plain stupid. I agree Brown should have just kicked that ball into the second row of the stands instead of letting them get it. That would have been easy enough.

Curtain_of_Steel
12-10-2012, 05:58 PM
Well it was 81 before the replay too. If that matters. LOL

But your right on the mark Tony that coaches can't be blamed for the dumb ass not playing through the whistle. I will give you that one. But how many times do they have to be told to play through the whistle? The Steelers do this year in and year out on several plays a year.

Caught napping on the fake punt, than the supposed fumble.

Now, when will we learn the dam bubbles dont work? That you can blame Haley on. but not the lack of being smart enough to not pick up the ball.

El-Gonzo Jackson
12-10-2012, 06:03 PM
I was upset that we were throwing a WR screen in the shadow of our own goal line more.

WR's are not real football players IMO, but rather mostly track athletes that can catch. To expect a guy to make a smart football play like kick it out of bounds or just fall on it for a safety is something Hines Ward or maybe Jerricho Cotchery, but not the "young money crew".

Fire Arians
12-10-2012, 06:11 PM
judging by how our defense was playing in the 2nd half, it coulda been giving up 9 points instead of 7, don't kick it out AB! :chuckle:

Darkstorm05
12-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Well it was 81 before the replay too. If that matters. LOL

But your right on the mark Tony that coaches can't be blamed for the dumb ass not playing through the whistle. I will give you that one. But how many times do they have to be told to play through the whistle? The Steelers do this year in and year out on several plays a year.

Caught napping on the fake punt, than the supposed fumble.

Now, when will we learn the dam bubbles dont work? That you can blame Haley on. but not the lack of being smart enough to not pick up the ball.

That's very true about the whistle. I've been in a rage a few games because the ball was live and Steeler's stood around staring while it got ran back for a TD. Two of them this year really pissed me off because it seemed like Ben was stopping team mates from reacting because he was signaling dead ball to them...but it wasn't. No whistle, you pile your ass onto that ball.

jiminpa
12-10-2012, 08:35 PM
It doesn't matter if the receiver was behind the line of scrimmage. What matters is was the ball moving in a forward direction, and it clearly was, both live and in the replay. It doesn't have to be very much forward, any at all will do. If that was any other team in the league it would have been a forward pass on the field and in the booth.

Same thing with that one incomplete ruling. We've had worse catches go against us.

rich4eagle
12-11-2012, 07:07 PM
If AB had jumped on the ball in the end zone. That was a five point swing. I am surprised that it has not been mentioned here yet. Any comments?

yeah it was forward pass which the NFL review system was gutless to call it what it was

zcoop
12-11-2012, 08:01 PM
yeah it was forward pass which the NFL review system was gutless to call it what it was

Doesn't matter during the game that they screwed up the call. My point is that the whistle had not blown, so AB chould've jumped on, or kicked the ball out.

jiminpa
12-11-2012, 08:15 PM
Doesn't matter during the game that they screwed up the call. My point is that the whistle had not blown, so AB chould've jumped on, or kicked the ball out.
And while that's true, it was obviously incomplete, and his initial reaction was to let the play die as it should have, then he went for the ball and then was knocked away. He never really had much of a chance to react after it occurred to him that he should react.

The new NFL is a double-edged sword. Play to the whistle and get a personal fowl called in the endzone and a new rule written about that mid-game, especially if you're a Steeler, or pull up expecting the obvious and get an incompleted pass ruled a fumble after a phone call from Der Komissar during the review. Either way it ends in San Diego getting unearned points.