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dez09231
12-10-2012, 02:46 PM
If we beat Dallas and Cincy, we'd have at least 9 wins with the tiebreaker over the Bengals. If the Jets won out, they'd be 9-7.

We've have the head-to-head over both Cincy and New York heading into week 17. We would win the 3-way tie since we've have head-to-head over both teams.

We could rest up against Cleveland.

The only way that I don't see this working is if the Jets win two straight, the Bengals beat Philly, and the Colts lose two straight... that could potentially produce a 4-way tie for 9-7 after the final week, which we could miss out on the playoffs due to common opponents or strength of victory if either the Bengals or Jets would qualify for the 5th seed over the Colts, who would then probably take the 6th seed. So, we'd potentially have to play out week 17.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures


It looks to me like even though we've played like shit for half the year, we could still end up with an effective "bye" with wins in the next 2 weeks...

teegre
12-10-2012, 02:49 PM
Short answer: YES.

That is why some of us have not yet slit our wrists.

steelerchad
12-10-2012, 03:13 PM
It's correct.
I hate to see it happen this way, but there is a decent chance we could get in to the playoffs at 8-8 with only a win over Cincy.
For that to happen, we would need only 1 Jets loss and for Cincy to lose 1 game to either Philly or the Ravens.

Rotorhead
12-10-2012, 05:14 PM
Well while we are at this we could still win the division, win out; ratbirds (who just canned their o coord) lose out.

BrandonCarr39
12-10-2012, 05:18 PM
If Atlanta keeps playing like they did against Carolina(twice), Oakland, New Orleans(1st game), and Arizona, they could very well face an early exit in the playoffs. Despite their 11-2 record, they are not great.

Houston may be looking very good, but Brian Cushing's injury may come back to bite them in the playoffs.

Just saying.

tanda10506
12-10-2012, 06:11 PM
Ok what am I missing? You can't get a bye unless you win the #1 or #2 spot, which to do that would mean that we would have to win our division and have a better record then 2 out of the other 3 teams that won their division. So in order to get a bye week Baltimore would have to lose EVERY game, we would have to win EVERY game, and the Pats and Broncos would have to lose all 3 of their games. It wouldn't have anything to do with the Jets and the Bengals would be out if we beat them. Everybody is saying "yes" and talking about the Jets so I must not be reading something right, but that's what I it looks like to me.

casteeler
12-10-2012, 06:31 PM
How bout this team wins at Dallas first. After yesterday's performance who can say this team won't go 0-3? I would love to be positive but I haven't seen a good effort by the Steelers since they played the Giants. I have been absolutely raked over the coals for criticizing this team but I can't be Optimistic when this team can't play sound football on Offense,Defense and Special teams in a single game.On the upside Miller and Suisham continue to impress

teegre
12-10-2012, 06:39 PM
Ok what am I missing? You can't get a bye unless you win the #1 or #2 spot, which to do that would mean that we would have to win our division and have a better record then 2 out of the other 3 teams that won their division. So in order to get a bye week Baltimore would have to lose EVERY game, we would have to win EVERY game, and the Pats and Broncos would have to lose all 3 of their games. It wouldn't have anything to do with the Jets and the Bengals would be out if we beat them. Everybody is saying "yes" and talking about the Jets so I must not be reading something right, but that's what I it looks like to me.

Win at DAL.
Win at CINCY.

Depending on what the other teams do, PITT might have shored up a WC spot... and could then rest their wounded against CLEV. Hence, a "bye" week.

steelcity1974
12-10-2012, 07:04 PM
Who you going to sit against the browns? Want to lose to them twice? Any team that loses to the browns twice in the same year is automatically disqualified from playoff contention (if that's not a rule it should be).

teegre
12-10-2012, 07:11 PM
Who you going to sit against the browns? Want to lose to them twice? Any team that loses to the browns twice in the same year is automatically disqualified from playoff contention (if that's not a rule it should be).

If The Colon were not being placed on IR, I would have sat him. I would also sit Troy. I might sit Casey the Hutt, so that he is fresh for the play-offs... but, also gives McClendon some quality reps. Lastly, if nothign can be gained, then sit BB... and allow whatever ails him to have an extra week to heal.

TheVet
12-10-2012, 07:34 PM
If we beat Dallas and Cincy, we'd have at least 9 wins with the tiebreaker over the Bengals. If the Jets won out, they'd be 9-7.

We've have the head-to-head over both Cincy and New York heading into week 17. We would win the 3-way tie since we've have head-to-head over both teams.

We could rest up against Cleveland.

The only way that I don't see this working is if the Jets win two straight, the Bengals beat Philly, and the Colts lose two straight... that could potentially produce a 4-way tie for 9-7 after the final week, which we could miss out on the playoffs due to common opponents or strength of victory if either the Bengals or Jets would qualify for the 5th seed over the Colts, who would then probably take the 6th seed. So, we'd potentially have to play out week 17.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures

It looks to me like even though we've played like shit for half the year, we could still end up with an effective "bye" with wins in the next 2 weeks...


Well we already know that our players are going to rest up against Cleveland in any case, so we might as well shoot for a playoff berth before that.
:tt02:

dez09231
12-10-2012, 07:43 PM
Who you going to sit against the browns? Want to lose to them twice? Any team that loses to the browns twice in the same year is automatically disqualified from playoff contention (if that's not a rule it should be).


Remember when Ben caught a spinal concussion in Cleveland in the last week of the season? I do. So..... him.

Fire Arians
12-10-2012, 08:00 PM
cleveland is no bye, that defense is fierce. even though they're not a great overall team, that D will hit you

LVSteelersfan
12-10-2012, 08:08 PM
Dallas was the only game that concerned me out of the last 4 games. Thanks to playing like crap, San Diego effectively put us in the untenable situation of having to pretty much win out. If we don't win out, even if we make the playoffs, I don't think this team has the determination to go very far. I hope the players see the urgency that is needed to finish out the season. If not, it is yet another disappointing season.

tanda10506
12-10-2012, 08:11 PM
Win at DAL.
Win at CINCY.

Depending on what the other teams do, PITT might have shored up a WC spot... and could then rest their wounded against CLEV. Hence, a "bye" week.

Ok, I thought OP was talking about a real bye week. Not sure how I missed that. Can't see why anybody would be excited about being able to half ass it against the Browns though. Our players don't need to rest, we just got embarrassed by a terrible team.

teegre
12-11-2012, 12:24 AM
Ok, I thought OP was talking about a real bye week. Not sure how I missed that. Can't see why anybody would be excited about being able to half ass it against the Browns though. Our players don't need to rest, we just got embarrassed by a terrible team.

I took it as:
The season isn't over.

Or, more deeply:
Win the next two games, and that last game won't even matter... making it, essentially a "bye." And thus, the season is far from over (despite an embarrassing loss).

kent
12-11-2012, 12:32 AM
There are alot of scenarios that can happen. We could even lose to Dallas and still win the division as crazy as that is. Baltimore would have to lose out (Denver, Giants, Cincy) and us beat Cincy and Cleveland.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/machine This is a fun thing to use to play with different scenarios

kent
12-11-2012, 12:35 AM
Regardless of what happens, If we make the playoffs it looks like we will be playing the Ravens.

Neil-Still-Rules-14
12-11-2012, 01:33 AM
In short, the Steelers must beat the Bengals and either the Browns or Cowboys.

kent
12-11-2012, 01:40 AM
In short, the Steelers must beat the Bengals and either the Browns or Cowboys.

They could beat the cowboys and Browns and lose to the Bengals and still get a wild card. The ravens would have to beat the Bengals in week 17 for that to happen.

Riddle_Of_Steel
12-11-2012, 03:34 PM
Do we realy want to see this broken down, injured, undisciplined, unfocused team have to play Peyton Manning or Tom Brady at home right now?

I have tried to remain optimistic, but honestly, even if we make the postseason, we will get bounced in round 1 like last year-- probably in embarassing fashion.

Our whole Oline is injured now and can neither protect the passer nor open running lanes. We have 1 starting CB left and a secondary that will be full of guys who were just promoted from the practice squad or the street a few days ago. No pass rush. Shakey run defense. WRs with cinder-block hands. A great TE we cannot even use in the passing game due to the awful Oline.

These are not the makings of a championship football team. Tomlin's got his work cut out for him.

JeromeBetties63
12-11-2012, 03:36 PM
Who you going to sit against the browns? Want to lose to them twice? Any team that loses to the browns twice in the same year is automatically disqualified from playoff contention (if that's not a rule it should be).

bro, that's just funny. :rofl:

steelfury02
12-11-2012, 03:39 PM
this. even if you sit here and say "they can still do it" eventually the injuries just become waaaay to much to overcome

FanSince72
12-11-2012, 03:58 PM
If we beat Dallas and Cincy, we'd have at least 9 wins with the tiebreaker over the Bengals. If the Jets won out, they'd be 9-7.

We've have the head-to-head over both Cincy and New York heading into week 17. We would win the 3-way tie since we've have head-to-head over both teams.

We could rest up against Cleveland.

The only way that I don't see this working is if the Jets win two straight, the Bengals beat Philly, and the Colts lose two straight... that could potentially produce a 4-way tie for 9-7 after the final week, which we could miss out on the playoffs due to common opponents or strength of victory if either the Bengals or Jets would qualify for the 5th seed over the Colts, who would then probably take the 6th seed. So, we'd potentially have to play out week 17.

http://www.nfl.com/standings/tiebreakingprocedures


It looks to me like even though we've played like shit for half the year, we could still end up with an effective "bye" with wins in the next 2 weeks...


I've also heard that I can grow my hair back with some gunk they're selling on TV.