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Stlrs4Life
08-13-2006, 04:09 PM
I just found a Yellow Jackets nest up inside and under my soffitt. Can't actually see the nest but know it is there. How would I get to this nest to remove them? Obviously I just can't burn them out with out burning the house down?

HburgXL06
08-13-2006, 04:21 PM
What's a soffitt? Depending on how big the gap is you could seal them in....or just smoked them out. But I don't know what a soffitt is.

BuFu

83-Steelers-43
08-13-2006, 04:22 PM
I'm taking it that soffit is your staircase?

Stlrs4Life
08-13-2006, 05:21 PM
Soffitt is the vinyl stuff that you put under your eaves to hide the rafters.

HburgXL06
08-13-2006, 05:32 PM
Soffitt is the vinyl stuff that you put under your eaves to hide the rafters.

You mean the things that are behind/underneath the rain-gutters?

BuFu

Jeremy
08-13-2006, 06:16 PM
You run a high risk by doing anything yourself. Yellow Jackets are nasty little customers who respond very aggresively to any real or perceived attack.

With that being said, you can purchase products which can produce smoke with little or no risk of actual fire to burn the timber in the eaves. ACE Hardware was always very good at pointing me in the right direction.

Hawk Believer
08-13-2006, 06:50 PM
Dude, i just had the exact same problem.

First thing, DO NOT TRY TO SEAL THEM IN!
The yellow jackest will seach for a way out. They will start digging through things. They may dig into your home. While a colony of yellow jackets pouring into your home may make for a really good story, I imagine its one best left unexperienced.

I tried sealing my colony in at first and they still found a way out. I then started calling pest control guys and they all said to not try to seal them in. Apparently they can eat through drywall like its nothing. Lathe and plaster takes a little more work, but I would not try my luck with this technique.

I found the going rate for removal is about $160-$210 in the Seattle area. Most of them said that they would inject pesticide into the enclosed area and that would do it.


However, I found one guy that said he could either come out and do the job for $200 or he would sell me a can of stuff for $30 that I could do on my own.

I bought it on Friday, used it the same day, and it appears the colony is now dead.

The product is a can of pressurized silica and pyrethrin dust. The brand name of it is TRI-DIE. The manufacturers website is wmmg.com according to the can. The guy who sold it to me said that he is the only person who sells this product to the public in the Puget Sound area, so it may be hard to find.

I was instructed to wait until late at night when the colony was less active. Then I was supposed to stick the 2 foot long straw attachment of the can into the entrance as far as I could, pulling back and forth for 15 seconds. Thats it.

I couldn't get the straw through the entrance they were using because it was too serpentine. So I sprayed some dust into the entrance. Then I drilled 2 small holes into the soffit near the entrance. I sprayed about 10 seconds into each hole. There was no more activity in about 6 hours.

Apparently the yellow jackets(or any other bug) will pick up the dust and carry it into the hive. It kills them by destroying their respiratory system.

Because they are yellow jackets, you should not have to worry about tearing into the soffit to remove the hive. You can just leave it there. They should not re-nest.

I don't mean to be patronizing by saying this, but make sure they are yellow jackets and not honey bees. If it was a honey bee colony, the honey left behind could cause staining and attract other pests. Plus honey bees are protected and you aren't allowed to kill them (at least out here). You can normally find a bee enthusiast who will come and remove the colony for free (minus the carpentry fees needed to get to the colony).

Anyway, I hope this helps. How random is it that the week I learn all this about yellow jackets that I stumble on your post on a Steelers website. The internet is making the world smaller every day.

Hawk Believer
08-13-2006, 07:03 PM
Here is a link to a site that will sell you the can of the pesticide I was refering to (for more than half off what I paid I might add) in case you can't find a retailer in your area. I'd call to make sure they threw in the straw. The straw is exactly like the ones you's get for a WD40 bottle, just extra long so you can insert it further.

http://www.epestsupply.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=Whittridie

tony hipchest
08-13-2006, 07:15 PM
what are eaves, and rafters and soffits!?!?!? :sofunny: im glad all uf us in the southwest live in teepees and adobe mud huts. :wink:

actually i had to get rid of a small hornets nest below my porch light a few weeks ago. the can of raid ant and roach spray i had seememd to do the trick. and to make it extra exciting i sprayed them without a shirt on (kinda like frying bacon and letting the grease splatter). it did the trick though.

hb's suggestion seems to be the way to go.

Jeremy
08-13-2006, 07:44 PM
Actually Tony, I have had problems with flying pests burrowing into the side of adobe. It makes it much harder to remove them.

Steel Warrior
08-13-2006, 08:24 PM
Hey Dom, this late in the summer, I wouldn't even mess with them unless they are somewhere that folks are gettin' stung. They never nest in the same place twice, just seal the hole this winter when they are all dead. Here's a piece from a website on yellow jackets,

"Although yellowjackets are considered quite beneficial to agriculture since they feed abundantly on harmful flies and caterpillars, it is their boldness (sometimes aggressiveness) and painful stinging ability that cause most concern. Nevertheless, unless the threat of stings and nest location present a hazard, it is often best to wait for Mother Nature, with freezing temperatures in late November and December, to kill off these annual colonies. Stinging workers do not survive the winter and the same nest is not reused."

tony hipchest
08-13-2006, 08:29 PM
Actually Tony, I have had problems with flying pests burrowing into the side of adobe. It makes it much harder to remove them.hmmm. interresting. that makes sense though that if these critters can burrough into the earth, adobe or concrete would be no unsurmountable challenge for them.

come to think of it there are insects who build their own type of adobe type colonies. ants i think. good call.

Stlrs4Life
08-13-2006, 08:41 PM
Here is a link to a site that will sell you the can of the pesticide I was refering to (for more than half off what I paid I might add) in case you can't find a retailer in your area. I'd call to make sure they threw in the straw. The straw is exactly like the ones you's get for a WD40 bottle, just extra long so you can insert it further.

http://www.epestsupply.com/cgi-bin/shopper.cgi?preadd=action&key=Whittridie


Thanks, this is what I'm going to do then.

Hawk Believer
08-13-2006, 08:42 PM
Hey Dom, this late in the summer, I wouldn't even mess with them unless they are somewhere that folks are gettin' stung. They never nest in the same place twice, just seal the hole this winter when they are all dead. Here's a piece from a website on yellow jackets,

"Although yellowjackets are considered quite beneficial to agriculture since they feed abundantly on harmful flies and caterpillars, it is their boldness (sometimes aggressiveness) and painful stinging ability that cause most concern. Nevertheless, unless the threat of stings and nest location present a hazard, it is often best to wait for Mother Nature, with freezing temperatures in late November and December, to kill off these annual colonies. Stinging workers do not survive the winter and the same nest is not reused."

Excellent point I should have brought up too. My colony was growing right above my front door. They hadn't attacked anyone, but I have friends who have potentially fatal allergies to stings. So we decided to drop the hammer on yellow jackets.

I did feel kinda guilty killing off their industrious little society.

Stlrs4Life
08-13-2006, 08:42 PM
You mean the things that are behind/underneath the rain-gutters?

BuFu


Yes, that's called soffitt.

Stlrs4Life
08-13-2006, 08:46 PM
Hey Dom, this late in the summer, I wouldn't even mess with them unless they are somewhere that folks are gettin' stung. They never nest in the same place twice, just seal the hole this winter when they are all dead. Here's a piece from a website on yellow jackets,

"Although yellowjackets are considered quite beneficial to agriculture since they feed abundantly on harmful flies and caterpillars, it is their boldness (sometimes aggressiveness) and painful stinging ability that cause most concern. Nevertheless, unless the threat of stings and nest location present a hazard, it is often best to wait for Mother Nature, with freezing temperatures in late November and December, to kill off these annual colonies. Stinging workers do not survive the winter and the same nest is not reused."


Thanks SW, how have you been? Welcome to the board. Hope to see you at a game this year.

Hawk Believer
08-13-2006, 08:49 PM
[QUOTE=tony hipchest]what are eaves, and rafters and soffits!?!?!? :sofunny: im glad all uf us in the southwest live in teepees and adobe mud huts. :wink:
QUOTE]

I have been hiking through some slot canyons in the southwest (souther Utah, Northern Arizona mostly) and stumbled upon quite a few old Anaszi dwellings. I didn't realize they were still in use in New Mexico.:sofunny: Whats a mud hut with 3 bedrooms and A/C going for these days.

Maybe I should go back to one of those dwellings and weed it a couple times for a few years and then try to make an adverse possesion claim. Could be a cheap way to get a vacation property. If that worked then I could do some infomercials and sell seminars to share my method to obtain zero down properties.

Steel Warrior
08-13-2006, 09:26 PM
Thanks SW, how have you been? Welcome to the board. Hope to see you at a game this year.

I've been fine, thanks for asking. Definitely see you at a game this year. Just remember those little yellow jackets are wearing Steelers colors.

tony hipchest
08-13-2006, 09:37 PM
[QUOTE=tony hipchest]what are eaves, and rafters and soffits!?!?!? :sofunny: im glad all uf us in the southwest live in teepees and adobe mud huts. :wink:
QUOTE]

I have been hiking through some slot canyons in the southwest (souther Utah, Northern Arizona mostly) and stumbled upon quite a few old Anaszi dwellings. I didn't realize they were still in use in New Mexico.:sofunny: Whats a mud hut with 3 bedrooms and A/C going for these days.

Maybe I should go back to one of those dwellings and weed it a couple times for a few years and then try to make an adverse possesion claim. Could be a cheap way to get a vacation property. If that worked then I could do some infomercials and sell seminars to share my method to obtain zero down properties.
:sofunny: whats an a/c :confused:? we all use swamp coolers. i actually went up to santa fe last weekend and saw the oldest house in the u.s. (c. 1600's) had the perfect opportunity to go ozzy osbourne on it to see if my pee could melt the adobe but cooler heads prevailed.

i have driven through the region you mention on old route 666 (which has since recieved a different name.) moab is awesome. some parts of gallup look like a 3rd world nation). i still havent viseted some of the popular pueblos we have up north.

your squatting idea sounds like a good one! :cool:

Stlrs4Life
08-17-2006, 10:54 PM
Well Hawk, that stuff came Fed Ex today, sprayed it in tonight, so I'm saying a prayer that they are gone! I drilled little holes like every 3" and sprayed some in in each. You think that'll do it?

Hawk Believer
08-18-2006, 12:18 AM
Well Hawk, that stuff came Fed Ex today, sprayed it in tonight, so I'm saying a prayer that they are gone! I drilled little holes like every 3" and sprayed some in in each. You think that'll do it?
I think that should be more than enough. They should be carrying the dust into the nest right now and it will soon be uninhabitable. The colony above my front door has been inactive since the evening I sprayed it. Now all I need to do is slap some mortar into the hole they were using and seal it up.

I hope it works for you like I said it would!

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-18-2006, 04:28 PM
I've been fine, thanks for asking. Definitely see you at a game this year. Just remember those little yellow jackets are wearing Steelers colors.


Well there ya go...walk around your yard wearing a Carson Palmer Jersey and the little insects will move out of your neighborhood in disgust. (Keep in mind however that this may have an adverse affect on your social life and property value)

ARKIESTEEL
08-18-2006, 04:31 PM
What we need is 2lbs C4 5 gal gas a 9/16 sears wrench and a blow up doll (blonde) (female) get that then I will tell you how to use it:rolleyes:

ARKIESTEEL
08-18-2006, 04:36 PM
Ok set up the M2 .50cal machine gun about 50 yards away ......what you didnt get a heavy machine gun hmmmm go get that orders will follow

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-18-2006, 04:39 PM
What we need is 2lbs C4 5 gal gas a 9/16 sears wrench and a blow up doll (blonde) (female) get that then I will tell you how to use it:rolleyes:


I think I know which approach you are talking about ...but in Illinois we add a midget, a mule, and tapioca pudding

ARKIESTEEL
08-18-2006, 04:40 PM
I think I know which approach you are talking about ...but in Illinois we add a midget, a mule, and tapioca pudding


I cant tell him all the details at once now shhhh you will confuse him I am team leader on this mission

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-18-2006, 04:47 PM
I cant tell him all the details at once now shhhh you will confuse him I am team leader on this mission


:sofunny: Okay..but if it scares the mule..you KNOW the midget will spill the pudding...and then we got bigger problems then yellow jackets!!! Dont say I didnt warn you.:sofunny:

ARKIESTEEL
08-18-2006, 04:49 PM
:sofunny: Okay..but if scares the mule..you KNOW the midget will spill the pudding...and then we got bigger problems then yellow jackets!!! Dont say I didnt warn you.:sofunny:


man dow man down take over buddy get them yellow jackets do it for old ARKIESTEEL


....... aaaaahhhhhhh

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-18-2006, 04:53 PM
man down man down take over buddy get them yellow jackets do it for old ARKIESTEEL


....... aaaaahhhhhhh

I TOLD YOU THE MULE WOULD KICK!!!...anyone know how to get tapioca out of fatigues?

Stlrs4Life
08-18-2006, 06:38 PM
I think that should be more than enough. They should be carrying the dust into the nest right now and it will soon be uninhabitable. The colony above my front door has been inactive since the evening I sprayed it. Now all I need to do is slap some mortar into the hole they were using and seal it up.

I hope it works for you like I said it would!



Thanks Hawk, as of today no sign of the little b#$%$^&*s! It worked to perfection! Thanks again!

Hawk Believer
08-18-2006, 06:48 PM
Thanks Hawk, as of today no sign of the little b#$%$^&*s! It worked to perfection! Thanks again!
I am happy to hear it did the job. When you are forced by circumstance to learn about archane topics (like yellow jacket eradication from soffitts), its a pleasure to actually be able to share what you know with someone else who might actually benefit.

tony hipchest
08-18-2006, 07:02 PM
:sofunny: Okay..but if it scares the mule..you KNOW the midget will spill the pudding..

uhhggh! :dang: reminds me of a bad evening in Juarez. :sofunny:

lamberts-lost-tooth
08-18-2006, 07:53 PM
uhhggh! :dang: reminds me of a bad evening in Juarez. :sofunny:

..vague memories from spring break..1986....

HburgXL06
08-19-2006, 03:34 PM
uhhggh! :dang: reminds me of a bad evening in Juarez. :sofunny:

Are you sure you didn't have a bad evening with Juarez...and mixin it with some tequila.....I mean tequila on it's own is bad enough but mix in some of that Juarez Triple Sec and you might as well just call it drain cleaner. Some people call it the start to a margharita but to me it seems more the start of a night gone bad. Lol.

BuFu