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Hawaii 5-0
12-27-2012, 11:00 AM
Steelers’ Hampton, Starks not ready to hang it up

By Mark Kaboly
Published: Wednesday, December 26, 2012

Hines Ward stepped to the podium nine months ago and said he couldn‘t imagine putting on a jersey other than the Steelers‘, so the receiver retired after 14 years in the league.

As Casey Hampton put it Wednesday: “I am a little different than Hines.”

So is Max Starks.

Hampton‘s and Starks‘ contracts are up following Sunday‘s meaningless season finale against Cleveland at Heinz Field, and both wouldn‘t have any problem wearing a different uniform next year if the Steelers‘ organization decides the two aren‘t part of their plan moving forward following a possible first losing season in nearly a decade.

“I want to play, and I feel like if I want to play and somebody wants me to play for them, I am going to play,” Hampton said. “I can‘t say that I can‘t see myself playing with somebody else, but I definitely wouldn‘t want to go anywhere else. There is no question about that.”

Hampton may not have any say in it, even though he had one of his most productive seasons despite not getting healthy from offseason knee surgery until midway through the season.

Starks either.

The Steelers used back-to-back second-round draft picks the past two years on tackles Marcus Gilbert and Mike Adams. However, it was Starks who has played in all 1,029 of the Steelers snaps this year despite not getting signed until two weeks before training camp.

Starks said he would not come back to be a backup to either Adams or Gilbert.

“I am not a backup yet,” Starks said. “I still have a couple more years in me before I can even consider that role. They drafted two young guys in the second round the last two years, so do I think I will be here? Probably not, but at the same time, I feel that I have value somewhere.”

Even though Starks signed a four-year, $26.9 million deal in 2009, the past two years he played for the veteran‘s minimum of just less than $1 million.

The Steelers asked Hampton to take a $2 million salary reduction in March to return to the team with no assurances of tacking on an extra year if he agreed.

With the Steelers projected to be around $12 million over the salary cap at year‘s end, they could have a hard time justifying handing out big money to veterans such as Hampton and Starks.

“I am definitely going to continue to play,” Hampton said. “If it is here or wherever, I definitely want to be here, but it is a business and I understand that.”

Hampton is in the midst of one of his better years.

He had one of his better games last week against Cincinnati when he collected three solo tackles — his most since a Week 17 game against Cleveland last season.

“Given the opportunity, I feel like I still play at a high level,” Hampton said. “Give me a full season to work out and get in shape and be ready to play, I think I can play at a high level. I see myself able to play a couple more years.”

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/3196794-74/hampton-starks-steelers#ixzz2GGTfmIea

steeltheone
12-27-2012, 11:15 AM
“Given the opportunity, I feel like I still play at a high level,” Hampton said. “Give me a full season to work out and get in shape and be ready to play, I think I can play at a high level. I see myself able to play a couple more years.”

Casey, you have been given the opportunity and have not performed at a " high level "

harrison'samonster
12-27-2012, 12:39 PM
I disagree, I think Hampton's been looking pretty good this year.

Max Starks is one of my heroes.

WVABE
12-27-2012, 12:53 PM
Personally I think they'd be nuts to can Starks. We wouldn't miss Hampton.

SteelersCanada
12-27-2012, 02:10 PM
Bye, Casey. You came on late in the year and I gave you the benefit of the doubt early on, but if you honestly think you can preform at a 'high level' somewhere else when you didn't do so on the number one defense (statistically), then you don't deserve to play here.

I'd bring back Starks and let him and Gilbert battle it out for the LT spot in Latrobe.

defence
12-27-2012, 02:17 PM
Bye, Casey. You came on late in the year and I gave you the benefit of the doubt early on, but if you honestly think you can preform at a 'high level' somewhere else when you didn't do so on the number one defense (statistically), then you don't deserve to play here.

I'd bring back Starks and let him and Gilbert battle it out for the LT spot in Latrobe.

If we can get both back at the min; then we should. Casey really came on at the end of the season blowing up plays in the backfield. He can only help if healthy. But at the minimum salary!!

TRH
12-27-2012, 02:41 PM
i appreciate Hampton's 'run-plugging' ability but we have GOT to cut the age on this defense. We need more strength, speed, and youth on that DL. We're not getting to QB's and we're not manhandling offensive lines. THEY are manhandling our defensive lines.
Bye Casey.

stiller39
12-27-2012, 02:46 PM
Starks is a consumate pro and we should bring him back and let him compete for the starting job with the youngsters. He has been a class act his entire career with the stillers.
Hampton does not play like he once did.... He played his best game last week.... but was mostly absent the rest of the year....imo. Its a good time to bulk up Mcclendon and see what he can bring.

SteelersCanada
12-27-2012, 02:48 PM
i appreciate Hampton's 'run-plugging' ability but we have GOT to cut the age on this defense. We need more strength, speed, and youth on that DL. We're not getting to QB's and we're not manhandling offensive lines. THEY are manhandling our defensive lines.
Bye Casey.

Pretty much. That starts, and ends, with Casey Hampton not requiring double-teams and being manhandled by centers one-on-one, which is unacceptable. He doesn't have the strength or speed that forces two guys on him, something that McLendon has done on almost every snap he's played.

desertsteel
12-27-2012, 02:50 PM
Personally I think they'd be nuts to can Starks. We wouldn't miss Hampton.

Agreed

Hawaii 5-0
12-27-2012, 03:27 PM
Personally I think they'd be nuts to can Starks.

it really wouldn't so much be a case of "canning" Starks, he is an UFA and we need to re-sign him. after the good season Starks had we may have some competition for his services and the Steelers don't like to get into bidding wars.

tanda10506
12-27-2012, 03:54 PM
Nobody saw how well Hampton played towards the end of the year? By the first Baltimore game he was back to driving his guy into the backfield. When Hampton was back to 100% he played well. Watch the coach's film if you have NFL rewind, Hampton played well from the midpoint on and played even better towards the end. Who's going to replace him? McClendon? Maybe, but if they were confident in McClendon they wouldn't have went for Ta'Amu. If we draft another NT he won't start, which will leave us needing Hampton for another year. He didn't mind taking a pay cut this time around either. I'm not saying he's as good as he used to be or that he's a top NT, but he had some games where he played close to it. Let's not forget he tore his ACL in January.

As for Starks, it's as common sense of a move as it was last year, keep him. I don't care if we have excellent starting Tackle's, this offensive line can't jog to the sidelines without getting injured, so as long as Starks isn't asking for a lot, it's a no brainer.

Lady Steel
12-27-2012, 06:28 PM
It's time for Hampton to get his snacks elsewhere.

Regarding Starks, it's like Groundhog Day. He will always be back. :laughing:

Hawaii 5-0
12-27-2012, 07:23 PM
Steelers NT Casey Hampton Open To Playing Elsewhere Next Season

Steelers NT Casey Hampton has been a staple of Pittsburgh’s defense for the past 12 seasons, but the 35-year-old is set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season and there has been plenty of attention paid to the overall age of the team’s defense unit.

Hampton appears to be more than aware of the situation that he’ll be faced with in March, but believes he was two more years left in him.

“No question, I can see myself playing somewhere else,” said Hampton, per the Beaver County Times. ”But I definitely would not want to go anywhere else. Why would I want to do that?“

Hampton grades out as one of the worst nose tackles in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. The good news is that he’s still a serviceable run defender, but he offers nothing in regarding to interior pass rush at this point in his career.

The Steelers must get younger on defense, so it makes sense that they would move on without Hampton next season. Pittsburgh should try to get Steve McLendon and Alameda Ta’amu to take the next step in their development, instead of hoping that Hampton is capable of returning to his previous form.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/steelers_nt_casey_hampton_open_to_playing_elsewher e_next_season/12518803

steeltheone
12-27-2012, 07:56 PM
Steelers NT Casey Hampton Open To Playing Elsewhere Next Season

Steelers NT Casey Hampton has been a staple of Pittsburgh’s defense for the past 12 seasons, but the 35-year-old is set to become an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season and there has been plenty of attention paid to the overall age of the team’s defense unit.

Hampton appears to be more than aware of the situation that he’ll be faced with in March, but believes he was two more years left in him.

“No question, I can see myself playing somewhere else,” said Hampton, per the Beaver County Times. ”But I definitely would not want to go anywhere else. Why would I want to do that?“

Hampton grades out as one of the worst nose tackles in the league, according to Pro Football Focus. The good news is that he’s still a serviceable run defender, but he offers nothing in regarding to interior pass rush at this point in his career.

The Steelers must get younger on defense, so it makes sense that they would move on without Hampton next season. Pittsburgh should try to get Steve McLendon and Alameda Ta’amu to take the next step in their development, instead of hoping that Hampton is capable of returning to his previous form.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/steelers_nt_casey_hampton_open_to_playing_elsewher e_next_season/12518803
I was hopping Ta'amu was gone for good.

Millers the sh!t
12-27-2012, 08:24 PM
like starks a lot. I think he's our second best lineman. Hampton not so much. I prefer McClendon in there bad on what Ive seen from him this season.

FrancoLambert
12-27-2012, 09:43 PM
Let Casey walk. He is too old, slow, and fat. We all watched the games.
Keep Max, I have more confidence in him than Adams or Gilbert to play at a higher level and remain healthy.
Plus I don't think he injures teammates.

Curtain_of_Steel
12-27-2012, 10:58 PM
I feel both should be back pending the price. Neither is worth top dollar or anything near it. I would prefer to have McClendon at Center.

SteelBobbleHead
12-27-2012, 11:31 PM
I think Starks has earned to be re-signed.Frankly, I am not sure Gilbert, or Adams, is ready to play LT. Hell Gilbert continually got manhandled this year. If he wasn't taking out our own Oline he was on his ass. Question is can they come to turns on price? I don't see Starks agreeing to vet minimum again. His performance this year will garner him some attention from other teams.
As pointed out, too often Casey was handled by one blocker this year. In the 3-4 scheme that can't happen. He has to eat up blockers to free up the LBers.Has been a great Steeler but McClendon always seemed to make plays when in the game. If he doesn't eat up multiple blockers he atleast gets a push into the O backfield disrupting the play.

kan_t
12-28-2012, 07:26 AM
I won't be upset if Hampton is gone. I think McClendon has shown that he may be the better NT anyway.

The Steelers can't let Starks go yet.

pete74
12-28-2012, 10:27 AM
We're 12 million over the cap so as much as myself and everyone else wants Starks to stay its not going to happen. He plated very well for the league minimum the last two years and will jump at one last payday and he should. I the fact is we can't afford him and he deserves to get paid for his talent because it's now or never for him.

sloppyjoe
12-28-2012, 03:20 PM
“Given the opportunity, I feel like I still play at a high level,” Hampton said. “Give me a full season to work out and get in shape and be ready to play, I think I can play at a high level. I see myself able to play a couple more years

yup fatass, noone gave you an opportunity to get in shape the last 5 years

OX1947
12-29-2012, 01:48 AM
“Given the opportunity, I feel like I still play at a high level,” Hampton said. “Give me a full season to work out and get in shape and be ready to play, I think I can play at a high level. I see myself able to play a couple more years

yup fatass, noone gave you an opportunity to get in shape the last 5 years

Hey hey, c'mon man. Big Snack has been an awesome player for 12 years, helped us win two super bowls, been the anchor for our number one defenses countless times.

What he meant by full year to get into shape was a full year that didn't require rehab. I thought Casey played well this year. I saw him the backfield making plays a lot this year, more then I had seen in years. If money can work, I think Snack has one more good year in him.

Starks, if he can get another job, god bless him, he has been great too, but if he doesnt, bring him back too.