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Hawaii 5-0
01-02-2013, 10:17 PM
Choose your weapon: Colon or Ramon Foster

January 1st, 2013
Mark Kaboly | Tribune-Review

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Steelers guard Ramon Foster is an unrestricted free agent.

The Steelers will have to make a decision whether or not they plan to sign unrestricted free agent guard Ramon Foster during the offseason.

Make no mistake about it, if Foster returns next year, Willie Colon won’t.

The Steelers would have to pay Foster starter’s money and assure him a starting spot for him not to test the free agent market in March, and to do that, they would likely have to release Colon — who has three years left on his 5-year, $29 million deal that he signed before training camp in 2011.

The decision just may come down to dependability.

Foster has started 30 consecutive games and 42 of the Steelers past 44 games including Super Bowl XLV despite getting shoved to the bench in each of the past three years — first by Trai Essex then Doug Legursky and finally David DeCastro.

Meanwhile, Colon has landed on injured reserve in each of the past three seasons with three different injuries (Achilles, triceps, knee). Colon has played only 11 of the Steelers’ 52 games in three years. However, when Colon was healthy this year, he was dominant and the run game flourished.

A decision needs to be made.

“I hope I am (with the Steelers) but i guess if the opportunity arises …” Foster said. “I am definitely open to whatever.”

Bottom line is Foster wants to be a starter and he wants paid, and he’s shown that he is deserving of both. And if you watched the NFL this year, many of teams would love to have a guy like Foster on their offensive line and especially for an affordable price.

How much would it cost to get a deal done with Foster?

Well, Buffalo signed Kraig Urbik, a former Steelers’ draft pick who Foster beat out in training camp in 2010, a couple week ago to a 4-year, $13.3 million with a $3.5 million signing bonus. That would probably enough to lock up Foster.

But in the end, Foster’s versatility may end up hurting him more than it helps him.

He can play both guard spots and both tackle spots as well. He was forced to play right tackle in the season finale against Cleveland. How many starting offensive line in the league of any note do you see flopping from position to position?

Mike Tomlin always boasts “the more you can do.”

Yeah, the more you can do, the less you get paid.

Foster hopes that’s not the case.

http://blog.triblive.com/steel-mill/2013/01/01/choose-your-weapon-colon-or-foster/

fer522
01-02-2013, 10:41 PM
I hope the steelers keep Foster.Colon may be the better player but he can't stay healthy AND he's making too much money

teegre
01-02-2013, 11:23 PM
I hope the steelers keep Foster.Colon may be the better player but he can't stay healthy AND he's making too much money

Yep.


The Colon has played in 11 games out of 48... and has blocked great... except for those false starts & holds.

Foster has played 31 games out of 32... and blocked well... with nary a penalty.

I'll take Foster's consistency.

lloydwoodson
01-02-2013, 11:53 PM
Willie Colon plays 22% of games for 6 million/year???

He has to go. Good player but I've never seen anyone hurt more.

teegre
01-02-2013, 11:57 PM
Willie Colon plays 22% of games for 6 million/year???

He has to go. Good player but I've never seen anyone hurt more.

That is like $500,000 per holding penalty. :wink02:

Justp94
01-03-2013, 04:02 AM
Priority: Sign Foster, Cut Colon.
Worst case scenario: Foster goes elsewhere, we end up keeping Colon and we have to waste a draft pick on another Guard in the mid-high rounds.

The_Joker
01-03-2013, 04:33 AM
Gonna miss the Colon, but he is to much dough...

kan_t
01-03-2013, 05:22 AM
Foster. He may not be as good as Colon but he is still a decent starting guard. Hard to pick Colon over him when you factor durability in.

harrison'samonster
01-03-2013, 07:44 AM
got to agree with everybody else. I'll miss Colon, too bad he can't stay healthy

steelfury02
01-03-2013, 08:10 AM
like em both, both with their upsides and faults - but yea, a lot of pressing needs - and, while I love Colon's dedication and commitment to the team, even when injured, along with his attitude - I'd say the team's needs will mean he is gone. I think that will be the reason more so than the injuries/penalties. The guy just hasn't seen the field enough and there has just been too many "he's got potential" moments over the years - never really got over the hump here - thought this would have been his year - but alas.

I hope he finishes his career out with at least a solid organization - he at least deserves that. Love to have him back in the Burgh in some form or fashion someday - who knows - line coach of the future?

Fire Arians
01-03-2013, 10:42 AM
like em both, both with their upsides and faults - but yea, a lot of pressing needs - and, while I love Colon's dedication and commitment to the team, even when injured, along with his attitude - I'd say the team's needs will mean he is gone. I think that will be the reason more so than the injuries/penalties. The guy just hasn't seen the field enough and there has just been too many "he's got potential" moments over the years - never really got over the hump here - thought this would have been his year - but alas.

I hope he finishes his career out with at least a solid organization - he at least deserves that. Love to have him back in the Burgh in some form or fashion someday - who knows - line coach of the future?

I don't know about that, he refused to take a pay cut despite not playing a single snap in 2 years. He is NOT a team-first player and didn't earn 66% of his check

I guess it's easy to be happy when you can get paid millions of dollars to not do your job, hell that sounds like a sweet deal

austinfrench76
01-03-2013, 02:54 PM
Would rather have Willie but cannot affrod to have him sit on the bench. Not sure their is really much to discuss from a FO prospective. Probably just comes down to money. Good luck Willie.

steelfury02
01-03-2013, 03:00 PM
I don't know about that, he refused to take a pay cut despite not playing a single snap in 2 years. He is NOT a team-first player and didn't earn 66% of his check

I guess it's easy to be happy when you can get paid millions of dollars to not do your job, hell that sounds like a sweet deal

good point - I guess I was more or less commenting on him being there for every game with a clip board and still involved

Of course, if you are getting paid for doing nothing - you might want to show up and at least show that you care lol

GMU Steeler
01-03-2013, 03:01 PM
Think I take Foster. Younger and less injury prone. If Willie could stay more healthy, I'd say him but.

TheVet
01-04-2013, 03:04 AM
Ugly choice.

Foster isn't a legitimate starter, and Colon is both injury-prone and mistake-prone. Neither of these guys is worth big bucks.

Despite the drafts of recent years, we're not finished filling our deep OL holes.

lloydwoodson
01-04-2013, 04:29 AM
Despite the drafts of recent years, we're not finished filling our deep OL holes.

Could you rephrase that so it doesn't have a dirty connotation?

pete74
01-04-2013, 05:54 AM
Colon is definitely the better guard but if I could only keep one it would be Foster hands down. Colin can't stay on the field and even if he was the best guard in the NFL its useless to keep paying him when he is always injured. Let's spend the money some were else.

desertsteel
01-04-2013, 07:27 AM
Legursky

BKAnthem
01-04-2013, 12:35 PM
Legursky

:chuckle:

Dude is strictly a back-up...i've had my fill of watching him get stood up at the Line

OX1947
01-04-2013, 12:36 PM
Is this a trick question?

TheVet
01-04-2013, 05:48 PM
It is kind of a trick question, because the answer is "none of the above" - not for the price that would be required. We either need to pay for real quality linemen, or struggle along with cheap below-standard linemen. But we shouldn't pay be paying luxury prices for below-standard players.

These two players are closer to the wrong end of the spectrum. Foster just doesn't have the skillz, and Colon has head problems along with being injury prone. If they were cheap, then sure, bring them along. But they're not starting caliber, and we shouldn't overpay.

The free agent market and the draft should easily allow us to improve in this area - if the coaches and front office staff can get it together...