PDA

View Full Version : Browns Considering Trading 6th Overall Pick ... for Ryan Mallett?


SteelersCanada
01-19-2013, 07:23 PM
Could the Cleveland Browns Be in the Market for Ryan Mallett?

By
Ryan McCrystal

The Browns have hired Michael Lombardi away from the NFL Network and made him their new director of player personnel (essentially making him the GM).

This will be Lombardi's second stint in Cleveland after he served as Bill Belichick's director of player personnel from 1992 through 1995. And that Belichick connection is already leading to speculation.

One of the worst-kept secrets of the offseason was Cleveland's interest in Lombardi, which has given the media plenty of time to speculate on potential moves Lombardi would make. Considering Lombardi's criticism of the Browns' selection of Brandon Weeden (he called it a "panicked disaster"), his documented interest in Ryan Mallett, and the Belichick connection, it's no surprise that Mallett-to-the-Browns ideas have already surfaced.

What is surprising, however, is the speculated asking price below:

NFL Philosophy @NFLosophy

Mallett to the Browns will probably heat up. Browns will have to give up number 6 overall pick this year, plus more. No clue what else.

If the Browns were to part with the sixth overall selection, it would be an unprecedented haul for a former third-round pick with a grand total of four pass attempts (including one interception) in two seasons as Tom Brady's backup.

For some perspective on what it should take to acquire Mallett, let's take a look at a few recent trades involving similar quarterbacks:

- In 2011, the Cardinals acquired Kevin Kolb, a former second-round pick with seven career starts under his belt, from the Eagles in exchange for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie and a second-round pick.
- In 2007, the Texans acquired Matt Schaub, a former third-round pick with two career starts, from the Falcons in exchange for two second-round picks and swap of first-round picks (the Falcons moved up from 10 to eight).

So how does this apply to Mallett? For starters, both Kolb and Schaub had considerably more experience and were highly thought of around the league. Prior to the trades, it was a virtual certainty that a team would be willing to put together a package to acquire the quarterbacks. Both were widely regarded as future starters who were ready to finally step into that role. Mallet, on the other hand, has no meaningful experience at the NFL level which should keep his asking price significantly lower compared to both Kolb and Schaub.

Additionally, there's the tricky question of Mallett's off-field issues. While he has presumably stayed out of trouble during his two years in New England, reports of drug use and other off-field incidents played a significant role in causing his fall to the third round of the draft. And for that reason, a number of potential suitors would likely shy away from a trade for the same reason they steered clear in 2011.

So if the Patriots wish to move Mallett, they're dealing with a limited market. Only a handful of teams are interested in acquiring a quarterback every year, and of those teams, a portion of them may not be interested in investing in Mallett as a starter based on his limited experience and/or the off-field issues.

With the market in mind, it is difficult to envision the Browns needing to offer a package including the sixth overall selection to acquire Mallett. A more realistic trade would be to send the sixth pick to New England in exchange for their first-round selection (29-32 depending on the playoff results) and Mallett.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1490462-nfl-draft-rumor-browns-considering-trading-6th-overall-pick-for-ryan-mallett

-- Someone tell me this is a joke.

harrison'samonster
01-19-2013, 07:26 PM
They can't help it, they're the Browns.

Fire Arians
01-19-2013, 07:30 PM
i knew ryan mallet would be trade bait from the moment he got drafted (it's not like tom brady was/is at the end of his career or anything)

but giving up the 6th overall pick? im gonna laugh if hes a bust. anyway i thought they drafted weeden pretty high already, thinking that he could be their future qb?

like harrisonsamonster said though, they're the browns. too bad we cant ever seem to be getting into trades with idiot GM's from the raiders or browns

SteelersCanada
01-19-2013, 07:34 PM
You'd think a top 10 pick would garner someone that was a little bit more impressive than Ryan Mallett for Christ sake. If this trade happens, I'm going to be just upset. It's like Cleveland stays up at night and asks 'how else could we fuck over this organization in the long term?' and then proceeds to do it in the most humorous way possible.

This is ridiculous. It's not that Cleveland is getting Mallett that is frustrating, it's the fact that the Pats will have a top 10 pick when there's a good chance they win the Super Bowl. How in the sweet name of fuck does Belichick get these deals done? I don't even understand.

harrison'samonster
01-19-2013, 07:38 PM
You'd think a top 10 pick would garner someone that was a little bit more impressive than Ryan Mallett for Christ sake. If this trade happens, I'm going to be just upset. It's like Cleveland stays up at night and asks 'how else could we fuck over this organization in the long term?' and then proceeds to do it in the most humorous way possible.

This is ridiculous. It's not that Cleveland is getting Mallett that is frustrating, it's the fact that the Pats will have a top 10 pick when there's a good chance they win the Super Bowl. How in the sweet name of fuck does Belichick get these deals done? I don't even understand.

it all started when he sold his soul to the devil to get out of Cleveland. everything since has just been good fortune.

harrison'samonster
01-19-2013, 07:41 PM
i knew ryan mallet would be trade bait from the moment he got drafted (it's not like tom brady was/is at the end of his career or anything)

but giving up the 6th overall pick? im gonna laugh if hes a bust. anyway i thought they drafted weeden pretty high already, thinking that he could be their future qb?

like harrisonsamonster said though, they're the browns. too bad we cant ever seem to be getting into trades with idiot GM's from the raiders or browns

i haven't heard anything since the regular season ended, but leading up to that last game the word was that the new regime was open to getting rid of Weeden. I think they were going to leave it up to the new coach.

fansince'76
01-19-2013, 08:17 PM
-- Someone tell me this is a joke.

It's from Bleacher Report. That should be your first clue.

SteelersCanada
01-19-2013, 08:27 PM
It's from Bleacher Report. That should be your first clue.

That's what I thought too, until I saw it on other sites as well. I don't know if they're sourcing BR but apparently this thing is picking up.

Blacksburg Zach
01-19-2013, 09:09 PM
Wow, the clowns have no patience at all. No wonder the Clowns suck year after year after year. No continuity whatsoever. What other team in this league would trade the sixth overall pick for a guy who has thrown only four passes, besides possibly the Raiders?

mikegrimey
01-20-2013, 05:58 AM
Won't believe it until its a done deal, no team could be that stupid...I hope

wwhickok
01-20-2013, 11:29 AM
Imo mallet hasnt even played has he? Not worth the #6 pick.

GMU Steeler
01-20-2013, 12:29 PM
They seriously can't be that stupid. Aren't they already not going to have a second rd pick due to using a pick in the supplemental draft this year? Not that I'd give up the 38th pick for Mallet either.

PhantomJB93
01-20-2013, 12:38 PM
If this happened it might actually be the stupidest, worst trade of all time. Worse than Carson Palmer to the Raiders.

SteelersCanada
01-20-2013, 12:51 PM
Ryan Mallett will be the Browns’ starting quarterback in a few hours, right?

Posted by Sean Tomlinson

Earlier this morning, Mike Lombardi was officially named the new vice president of player personnel for the Cleveland Browns. Then shortly after that, some dot connecting began.

I’m generally a big fan of that game, but only if the dots being used eventually create a spaceship or a friendly dinosaur. That way at least we can all feel as though we’ve accomplished something. Taking one player evaluation dot and connecting it to nothing is still a fun game only because it generates often baseless chatter, but the connecting line fades into oblivion.

This is the time in the NFL calendar with ye old speculation machine begins to wind up, with the seeds planted for mid April when the knob is ripped right off. That’s why Lombardi’s hiring led to this…

Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard

For Patriots fans, Mike Lombardi getting Cleveland personnel job puts possible Ryan Mallett trade back on front burner.

As Rotoworld’s Evan Silva notes, Lombardi was a pretty big Mallett pom pom waver in the spring of 2011, a far away time when along with the rest of us briefly, he believed the Patriots backup and former Razorback would be not only be a first-round pick, but also a top-20 pick. But Lombardi did more than just join the rest of us in our worship of the speculation gods and goddesses. He was convinced Mallett would be a first rounder.

How did that turn out? Ummm, poorly. Mallett fell to the third round, and the No. 74 overall slot, and he’s now sitting patiently in New England where he’ll either be another Bill Belichick trade pawn, or eventually Tom Brady’s successor once the soon-to-be 36-year-old begins to relent to the laws of nature. The former is far more likely, as elite quarterbacks usually age well, and Brady has said he wants to keep playing until he’s 40.

So enter Cleveland, through Lombardi. As we saw a season ago when Matt Flynn was hotter than Manti T’eo’s girlfriend when he hit the trade market and then eventually the open market where he fleeced Seattle, the backup who’s high on potential can be a highly pursued commodity. But here’s the problem with potential: you can’t really see it, and in truth it often depends on the observer, and also the subject’s lack of opportunities to disappoint you. In a year when the draft talent at the position is underwhelming, the trade values — or perceived values — of backup QBs like Mallett and Flynn again will be elevated. That’s not necessarily a good thing.

Lombardi may indeed still have an ongoing internal love affair with Mallett. I assume it’s similar to my love for Thomas the Train as an eight-year-old. Even if we hypothetically entertain the possibility of Mallett in Cleveland, Lombardi will have a tall hurdle to leap, one that’s propped up by a fan base which already hates him thoroughly. It has a name, too: Brandon Weeden.

In 2011, the Browns gave up the opportunity to draft Julio Jones, instead giving their fourth overall pick to Atlanta in exchange for pretty much every Falcons pick over the next 35 years. One of the highest picks they received in that package turned into Weeden, who had a sometimes impressive, yet mostly inconsistent rookie season. So basically, he had a normal rookie quarterback season.

And now after passing on Jones — who will play in the NFC Championship this weekend — Lombardi would seriously consider giving up on a first-round pick who started to show promise at the end of the season, and roll with a third rounder who’s attempted only four garbage time regular-season passes in his career? If being more hated than LeBron in Cleveland is your goal, Mike, pull that trigger.

http://blogs.thescore.com/nfl/2013/01/18/ryan-mallett-will-be-the-browns-starting-quarterback-in-a-few-hours-right/

-- The fact that this thing is gaining traction is what scares me the most. Also, is there a way to embed a Tweet from a user? If there is, I still haven't found out how to do so. If someone knows how I'd love to know so I can make this thing a little easier to read. Thanks!

Blacksburg Zach
01-20-2013, 09:13 PM
They seriously can't be that stupid. Aren't they already not going to have a second rd pick due to using a pick in the supplemental draft this year? Not that I'd give up the 38th pick for Mallet either.

I don't know. It IS the Clowns we're talking about here. No amount of stupidity from that organization surprises me anymore.

CanuckCurtain
01-22-2013, 12:39 AM
You'd think a top 10 pick would garner someone that was a little bit more impressive than Ryan Mallett for Christ sake. If this trade happens, I'm going to be just upset. It's like Cleveland stays up at night and asks 'how else could we fuck over this organization in the long term?' and then proceeds to do it in the most humorous way possible.

This is ridiculous. It's not that Cleveland is getting Mallett that is frustrating, it's the fact that the Pats will have a top 10 pick when there's a good chance they win the Super Bowl. How in the sweet name of fuck does Belichick get these deals done? I don't even understand.

:chuckle: they really do find stupid teams to make trades. Deion Branch to Seattle for a first rounder cant remember the pick. I might not split atoms or cure diseases but in my opinion Mr. Branch was not worth a first round. Got to admit im a little jealous of how the pats get these deals

torpedoshell31
01-22-2013, 06:12 PM
At first I thought the thread was about giving up a 6th round pick for Mallett. When I realized it was about the Browns giving up their first round pick(6th overall) for Mallett, I actually laughed out loud.

GMU Steeler
01-22-2013, 09:42 PM
:chuckle: they really do find stupid teams to make trades. Deion Branch to Seattle for a first rounder cant remember the pick. I might not split atoms or cure diseases but in my opinion Mr. Branch was not worth a first round. Got to admit im a little jealous of how the pats get these deals

They've been blessed with some really stupid trading partners. They got a second for Matt Cassel and a clearly done Mike Vrabel too. I mean yeah I am jealous too but when your trading partner's an idiot.

lloydwoodson
01-22-2013, 10:27 PM
The Pats never should have traded Seymour though. I don't know why they did but their defense has never been the same. That was a terrible trade. They used the Raiders 17th pick to draft Nate Solder. Solder is their starting LT but I don't think many people would trade Seymour for Solder straight up.

GMU Steeler
01-22-2013, 10:34 PM
The Pats never should have traded Seymour though. I don't know why they did but their defense has never been the same. That was a terrible trade. They used the Raiders 17th pick to draft Nate Solder. Solder is their starting LT but I don't think many people would trade Seymour for Solder straight up.

That's a good point. I think they underestimated how important a good 3-4 DE is.