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mikegrimey
01-21-2013, 03:11 PM
Should he be on a warm seat?

His team has been regular season strong (11-5, 9-7, 14-2, 11-5, 13-3) but blow it in the playoffs. If it wasn't for some Marvin lewisesque game management from Pete Carroll and last second heroics from Matt Ryan his team would be 0 for the playoffs. They were less than a couple bounces away from losing to Seattle after chucking up a 20 point lead, and blew a 17 pointer the very next week. Of they'd lost to Seattle he'd definitely be on the hot seat, but was the "win" really convincing enough to give him insurance, I don't think so.

harrison'samonster
01-21-2013, 03:18 PM
as long as they are winning, I'd find it hard to think he should be on the hot seat. I do like the term "warm seat."

Remember though, Atlanta went how many seasons without back-to-back winning seasons.

TRH
01-21-2013, 03:19 PM
he'll be fine for now. Now if the Falcons have a sub-par season next year, he'll then be on the hot seat.

Atlanta Dan
01-21-2013, 06:44 PM
Falcons had never had back to back winning seasons until Smith arrived

Smith's teams have made the playoffs 4 out of 5 years, made number one seed twice,and won a playoff game this year - Smith is on the hot seat as much as Cowher was after finally winning a playoff game and then blowing the 1994 AFC championship to San Diego. In other words, he is not on the hot or warm seat

mikegrimey
01-21-2013, 07:07 PM
There's no question that he's fielded an impressive team every year he's been there... in the regular season. But the Falcon are atrocious in the playoffs, even their win this year wasn't impressive, they were a missed kick, a dropped pass, a seattle FG (1 of 2 possible attempts in the first half) of being one and done again. Had they lost that game, everyone would be down Smith's throat.

Cowher won his first playoff game in his second year as a head coach. This next season will be Smith's 6th. Cowher also had journeyman or slash running his offense for most of his years. Smith has had a No. 3 overall pick since day 1.

I'm not saying he should be fired, but is racking up wins in the regular season while flopping in the playoffs going to keep being acceptable? I think you all have a good point, the fact that the Falcons never had back to back winning seasons before Smith might give him a bit more security, but if you're running that organization and seen 5 years of the same routine (good play in the regular season while choking in the postseason, minus the year they missed the playoffs) wouldn't you be angling to make a change?

The Falcons are stacked on offense, I'm not sure who's to blame for the frequent playoff flops, but I think Mike Smith's seat should be just a little warm because of it.

zcoop
01-21-2013, 07:10 PM
Falcons had never had back to back winning seasons until Smith arrived

Smith's teams have made the playoffs 4 out of 5 years, made number one seed twice,and won a playoff game this year - Smith is on the hot seat as much as Cowher was after finally winning a playoff game and then blowing the 1994 AFC championship to San Diego. In other words, he is not on the hot or warm seat

Exactly, Atl fans are just happy to make it consistently to the playoffs. Smith ain't going nowhere.

Atlanta Dan
01-21-2013, 07:21 PM
Exactly, Atl fans are just happy to make it consistently to the playoffs. Smith ain't going nowhere.

Yep - I recognize the expectations are a little higher on a site for a team that has played in 15 confeence champiosnhip games and 8 Super Bowls - after being horrible forver the expectations are a little lower in Atlanta

BlaZeQuietly
01-22-2013, 11:59 PM
I think he will be fine. The falcons are a weird team though, they have 3 really good seasons, but never really seem to be that dominating of a team, even this year when they were undefeated I knew they were not superbowl caliber. Somethings missing, its not Smith's fault. Roddy White and Julio Jones are money, Mike Turner is a very solid back, and Matt Ryan is arguably the second best QB in the NFC (next to Rogers). I guess they just don't have that type of defense that can really hold teams late in games, yeah... I guess thats their problem. lol :noidea:

lloydwoodson
01-23-2013, 01:00 AM
I was surprised how nonchalant Smith seemed in his press conference. He seemed completely unaffected by missing the superbowl by such a narrow margin. Coaches who keep an even keel are usually competitive year after year but it was a really strange reaction to my eyes. I would think most competitive people would be devestated.

mikegrimey
01-26-2013, 09:45 AM
I was by no means suggesting Smith should be fired

warm seat is not a hot seat

but I think he should be on notice that dominating the regular season and flopping in the playoffs won't be acceptable anymore. Their sole playoff victory under him was inches away from being an epic meltdown, and then the next week they completed the trick! Perhaps it is the defense because that offense is pretty stacked.

silver & black
01-26-2013, 10:51 AM
Ask a Chargers fan.

BrandonCarr39
01-26-2013, 09:33 PM
Yes, Smith has posted an impressive record during his tenure in Atlanta. However, this isn't the first time his team has blown 2nd half/4th quarter double digit leads, as we've seen in this year's playoffs.

Yeah, coming into the Niners game, he was undefeated going into the 4th quarter with leads, but nonetheless numerous times his team was able to dodge bullets after giving up leads late in games. But this time around it has finally nipped them in the bud.

FYI, this was pretty much why Wade Phillips was ran out of Dallas(for doing the same thing - allowing his team to lay off the gas pedal when grabbing double digit leads). From what I've seen, Smith is Phillips v. 2.0.

JeromeBetties63
01-26-2013, 10:15 PM
Should he be on a warm seat?

His team has been regular season strong (11-5, 9-7, 14-2, 11-5, 13-3) but blow it in the playoffs. If it wasn't for some Marvin lewisesque game management from Pete Carroll and last second heroics from Matt Ryan his team would be 0 for the playoffs. They were less than a couple bounces away from losing to Seattle after chucking up a 20 point lead, and blew a 17 pointer the very next week. Of they'd lost to Seattle he'd definitely be on the hot seat, but was the "win" really convincing enough to give him insurance, I don't think so.

How is Pete Carroll responsible for horrific on the field execution by guys who gave no hint before those 2 plays that they would blow it?

sluggermatt15
01-27-2013, 11:06 AM
Should Mike Smith's be warm?

In my opinion, no. He has had great success in the regular season in Atlanta. He has built a team that has shown it can win, both on defense and offense. Smith has a franchise QB in Matt Ryan, solid offense with 2 good RBs and WRs. He has all the tools to be successful for at least the next several seasons.

However, that only goes so far. The big knock on Smith and Atlanta is winning in the playoffs. They finally won this year, but came up short in the NFC Champ Game. Despite this, IMO give the man 1 or 2 more years. If he can't get to the SB, then put him on the hot seat. But IMO I don't think you fire a guy who has turned the Falcons into a winner for the first time since Mike Vick and Dan Reeves.

On the other hand, for those who think he should have some fire below him, I can understand. The Falcons have not lived up to expectations in the playoffs in the last 3-4 years.