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Justp94
01-21-2013, 08:28 PM
Here to Stay
Ben Roethlisberger
Roethlisberger is set for base salaries of $11.6 million in 2013 and 2015, and $12.1 million in 2014. Roethlisberger's total cap hit for 2013 is $20.595 million. The Steelers could take $10.5 million of Roethlisberger's base salary for 2013, and convert it to a signing bonus. He has three seasons left on his contract, including 2013. The prorated amount added to each season would be $3.5 million. The Steelers will save seven million against their team cap figure, although Roethlisberger's cap hits for 2014 and 2015 will increase by $3.5 million each.
VERDICT: Not worth restructuring, leave his contract alone. Cap hits for 2014 & 2015 would be around $19 million a year if we restructure his deal, putting us pretty much in the predicament we're in now with Ben's cap hit of $20.595 million.

Troy Polamalu
The Steelers could restructure $6.4 million of his $7.5 million base salary into a signing bonus, they could charge half ($3.2 million) to 2014, saving an equal amount in 2013. If Polamalu wants to play in 2014, the Steelers could offer him an extension without its own signing bonus, giving them extra years to spread restructured money across. An extension would allow the team to deal with a reduced dead money penalty in 2015, covering only money restructured out of 2013 and 2014. So we'd free up $3.2 million of this years cap space.
VERDICT: Restructure contract to save $3.2 million in this years cap space and offer him an extension in 2014 IF he has healthy/strong season in 2013. Everything mentioned would be great for the future and for the present, hopefully Polamalu stays healthy and shows he's still a beast so the Steelers do offer him an extension in 2014.

Lamarr Woodley
He is scheduled for a base salary of $9 million in 2013. His total cap hit is $13.24 million in 2013. The Steelers could restructure his deal by taking $8 million of his base salary and make it a signing bonus. The $8 million dollars is divided amongst all the years remaining on the contract including 2013, and added to each year's prorated bonus charges. This would save Pittsburgh $6 million dollars against 2013's cap hit, but add $2 million to each year after.
VERDICT: Not worth restructuring, leave his contract alone.

Lawrence Timmons
Timmons is scheduled to receive a base salary of $5.375 million; but his accumulated prorated bonus designations add another $5.785 million, making his total cap hit $11.16 million. If the Steelers restructure his base salary so that $4 million is a signing bonus then the team would save $3 million in cap space this year, while adding only $1 million dollars to each year after.
VERDICT: This would be a good restructure as only an extra $1 million will affect the cap in the coming years, which isn't too bad.

Possible Releases
James Harrison
Harrison counts for more than $10 million against the Steelers' 2013 salary cap. If the Steelers restructure his contract they'd only save less than $3 million. Pittsburgh would suffer a cap penalty of $4.93 million dollars for releasing Harrison. Subtracting this penalty from his original cap hit of $10.035 million Pittsburgh would save $5.105 million dollars against 2013's salary cap, and all $9.04 million against 2014. Another option would be to release him after June 1st. Going this route, the Steelers would suffer a penalty of $2.465 million dollars against both 2013, and 2014. Pittsburgh would save $7.57 million against 2013's original cap hit, and $6.575 million against 2014.
VERDICT: Cut Harrison and save $5.105 this year, but not have to worry about any cap hit in 2014.

Brett Keisel
Keisel is due 4.5 million base salary in 2013. The Steelers have two choices: ask Keisel to take a pay cut that would save the team about $1.8 million or cut him and free up a little more than $2.8 million in cap space.
VERDICT: Cut him and free up a little more than $2.8 million in cap space.

Willie Colon
He's scheduled to count $7.6 million against the cap in 2013. If the Steelers release him after the Super Bowl, the team would only save $1.2 million. However, If they waited until after June 1st, they would save a total of $4.425 million toward 2013, but would suffer a penalty of $3.225 million against 2014. There's another option here too, we could restructure his contract that is $5.5 million this year into a $4.5 million signing bonus and save $3 million in cap space, while adding $1.5 million to his dead money over the next two years.
VERDICT: Restructure his contract and save the $3 million in cap space. Mainly because he has proven that, when healthy, he can be a pretty good Left Guard. Also, if we ended up cutting Colon we'd have to either Re-sign Foster to be a starter or get a Offensive Lineman in the higher rounds and we all know that we have bigger priorities in the draft than Guard. Unless Chance Warmack magically appears at #17, this is the best option for the Steelers.

With my verdicts for Harrison, Keisel, Timmons, Polamalu, & Colon, The Steelers would save roughly $17.1 million of cap space.
However if the Steelers are trying to keep any of the these players: Keenan Lewis, Rashard Mendenhall, or Mike Wallace. Restructuring Woodley's deal so that $6 million cap space is made for 2013 and only $2 million per year dead money is added to Wooldey's cap hits for the rest of his contract, that's also another option so we would save $23.1 million of cap space.

Thoughts and comments?


Sources:
Steelers 2013 salary cap options - Offensive Line (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/17/3883934/steelers-2013-salary-cap-options-offensive-line-roster-Colon-Foster-Pouncey)
Cost-Effective Moves the Pittsburgh Steelers Can Make This Offseason (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1493180-cost-effective-moves-the-pittsburgh-steelers-can-make-this-offseason)
Brett Keisel | Making the Call on Steelers' 8 Toughest Offseason Decisions (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1483858-making-the-call-on-steelers-eight-toughest-offseason-decisions/page/6)
Exploring Steelers 2013 salary cap options by position - quarterback (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/7/3834114/steelers-roster-salary-cap-2013-restructure-options-quarterback)
Steelers 2013 salary cap options - Outside Linebackers (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/9/3853220/steelers-2013-salary-cap-details-news-options-roster-Woodley-Harrison)
Steelers 2013 salary cap options - Safeties (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/19/3887546/steelers-2013-salary-cap-options-safeties-roster-release-free-agents-polamalu-clark-allen)
Steelers 2013 salary cap options by position - Inside Linebacker (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/1/11/3864414/steelers-2013-salary-cap-options-roster-linebacker-LB-Timmons-Foote-Spence-Sylvester-Rolle-McFadden/in/3618499)

TRH
01-21-2013, 09:42 PM
in a perfect world, all of your "best scenario's" would stay here forever - agree to all and any terms - and never leave or get cut.
However - a couple of those domino's on that list are sure to fall. I'm not a member of the FO team so i have no idea what they're thinking (nor does anyone else here), but it should be an interesting late winter/early spring around here.
I'm just not even sure how to guess how this is going to play out.

Justp94
01-22-2013, 04:11 AM
in a perfect world, all of your "best scenario's" would stay here forever - agree to all and any terms - and never leave or get cut.
However - a couple of those domino's on that list are sure to fall. I'm not a member of the FO team so i have no idea what they're thinking (nor does anyone else here), but it should be an interesting late winter/early spring around here.
I'm just not even sure how to guess how this is going to play out.

Yeah, it's going to be a tough offseason with some big decisions to be made. I'm just hoping everything turns out good so we can at least be a winning team again next year and build on that for the 2014 season. However, I think that with enough hard work and training we could have some of our key drafts picks be a big influence in 2013.

pete74
01-22-2013, 04:20 AM
We restructure that many contracts then we're really screwed the next few years. I know some big name players will be gone but Pouncy and a lot more will need resigned. As for Heyward sitting another year and learning, there is no way you sit a first rounder for three years. He needs to start next season.

Justp94
01-22-2013, 06:03 AM
We restructure that many contracts then we're really screwed the next few years. I know some big name players will be gone but Pouncy and a lot more will need resigned. As for Heyward sitting another year and learning, there is no way you sit a first rounder for three years. He needs to start next season.

I know that if we restructure this many we're screwed in 2014 and 2015. I was just trying to note the best options for each individual player for freeing Cap Space. I personally like the idea of Polamalu's contract restructuring.
Agreed with Heyward, however Ziggy Hood is the one I'm more concerned about... another former first round pick who really hasn't been as good as a first round talent should be.

Justp94
01-22-2013, 07:15 AM
Added better options and have given my choices for which players we should cut/restructure/give pay cuts to. Please give your feedback on the updated post and my choices.

Steelers>NFL
01-22-2013, 07:34 AM
They pay alot of money for part time players: Ben, Woodley & Polomalu. WOW!!!

Justp94
01-22-2013, 07:47 AM
They pay alot of money for part time players: Ben, Woodley & Polomalu. WOW!!!

At one time in their careers they weren't, hopefully they can get back in good Steelers Football shape for this upcoming season and also stay healthy.

TRH
01-22-2013, 09:08 AM
We restructure that many contracts then we're really screwed the next few years. I know some big name players will be gone but Pouncy and a lot more will need resigned. As for Heyward sitting another year and learning, there is no way you sit a first rounder for three years. He needs to start next season.

exactly.

Other 1st rounders (even 2nd's) are starting all around and up and down the league, many in their first year and are making big impacts.
Yet - its somehow expected around here that they have to sit around "and learn for a couple years".
What? Huh? Why are they playing everywhere else but not here? Doesn't make sense to me, never did.

Steelers>NFL
01-22-2013, 09:13 AM
exactly.

Other 1st rounders (even 2nd's) are starting all around and up and down the league, many in their first year and are making big impacts.
Yet - its somehow expected around here that they have to sit around "and learn for a couple years".
What? Huh? Why are they playing everywhere else but not here? Doesn't make sense to me, never did.
Because LeBeau's defense is TOO complicated. :blah:
Look at Keenan Lewis. He played very sparingly the first 3 yrs. Starts yr 4 and has a very good season. Then bang, he is a FA. And can get big money. They need to play the young more earlier and more...

Steeldude
01-22-2013, 10:26 AM
That absurd contract the Steelers gave Woodley is killing them. I hate to say I told you do, but...:flap:

Justp94
01-23-2013, 01:32 PM
That absurd contract the Steelers gave Woodley is killing them. I hate to say I told you do, but...:flap:

Yeah, I mean unless he gets back in shape and continues being a beast like he was a couple years ago, that contract was foolish.

stiller39
01-24-2013, 01:22 PM
I agree with cutting Harrison. We can't bank of Willie Colon as he has demonstrated he can't stay healthy. take the cap hit on him and move on. Kiesel still has some gas left in the tank and we need his leadership so maybe restructure him....

desertsteel
01-24-2013, 01:30 PM
exactly.

Other 1st rounders (even 2nd's) are starting all around and up and down the league, many in their first year and are making big impacts.
Yet - its somehow expected around here that they have to sit around "and learn for a couple years".
What? Huh? Why are they playing everywhere else but not here? Doesn't make sense to me, never did.

Wasn't ownership heavily critical about sitting rookies during last offseason? Or is my mind slipping? That and the running game... we see how well that worked!

austinfrench76
01-24-2013, 01:56 PM
Great read! Agree with most of it but the Keisel thing. I just don't see us cutting him. Even though Heyward would be fine. I don't think it's enough money to lose that much leadership. Not that it helped last year but he is too valuable IMO.

lloydwoodson
01-24-2013, 02:43 PM
Wasn't ownership heavily critical about sitting rookies during last offseason? Or is my mind slipping? That and the running game... we see how well that worked!

DD and Adams both started. Beachum played quite a bit and so did Rainey. Spence was hurt. Ta'amu wasn't needed. All in all I would say the rookies got quite a lot of playing time compared to years past.

desertsteel
01-24-2013, 03:35 PM
DD and Adams both started. Beachum played quite a bit and so did Rainey. Spence was hurt. Ta'amu wasn't needed. All in all I would say the rookies got quite a lot of playing time compared to years past.I really don't think there was much choice on those O-line moves. Granted, DD was planning on starting until the injury. However, I was thinking more on the defensive side of things. And I guess I should re-phrase to say "young players" and not rookies. I believe Rooney came out and criticized the coaches for that last offseason. Anyone else remember?

SteelersCanada
01-24-2013, 03:56 PM
The contracts that we gave Harrison and Troy were foolish. A 35 and a 31 year old with cap hits both over 10 million dollars but no one is talking about Troy because, well, he's Troy.

Before we criticize Woodley, let's remember that Troy was equally as unproductive this year as LaMarr. If you're going to complain about Woodley's cap hit, complain about Troy's first. 10 million for a guy that had a hoodie and a headset on isn't worth it.

Steeler7BR
01-24-2013, 04:29 PM
The contracts that we gave Harrison and Troy were foolish. A 35 and a 31 year old with cap hits both over 10 million dollars but no one is talking about Troy because, well, he's Troy.

Before we criticize Woodley, let's remember that Troy was equally as unproductive this year as LaMarr. If you're going to complain about Woodley's cap hit, complain about Troy's first. 10 million for a guy that had a hoodie and a headset on isn't worth it.

You're right but nobody is questioning Troy if he's 100%. I don't know about Woodley after this year. Don't say I'm in that group, but the general trust belongs more to Troy then LaMarr.

My approch would be cutting rather Keisel and try anything to keep Harrison here, because he is a key factor in this defense definitly more then Keisel. And we have a very good replacement option for him in Heyword, who we have to start in 2013.

Justp94
01-25-2013, 05:41 AM
I agree with cutting Harrison. We can't bank of Willie Colon as he has demonstrated he can't stay healthy. take the cap hit on him and move on. Kiesel still has some gas left in the tank and we need his leadership so maybe restructure him....

Here's the deal with Colon though... if we cut him we'll have to either Re-Sign Foster, who's mediocre at best, start Tackle Kelvin Beachum at Left Guard where he's unproven, or waste a high round draft pick on a left guard, which we can't afford to do this year. So restructuring his deal to save some cap this year and give him one more chance is the best option as he's obviously the best guard other than DeCastro that we have...

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
01-25-2013, 05:56 AM
Here's the deal with Colon though... if we cut him we'll have to either Re-Sign Foster, who's mediocre at best, start Tackle Kelvin Beachum at Left Guard where he's unproven, or waste a high round draft pick on a left guard, which we can't afford to do this year. So restructuring his deal to save some cap this year and give him one more chance is the best option as he's obviously the best guard other than DeCastro that we have...

Foster is a solid, we don't need to have Elite o-line to be successful we just need to stay healthy and that's one thing Colon cant do so why waste the $

Gilbert-Foster-Pouncey-DD-Adams looks good to me...and maybe no one will sign Max so we can bring him back cheap to be a back up.