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SteelersCanada
02-01-2013, 01:31 PM
I'll keep it short and to the point - say we're drafting in the second round this year and, for whatever reason, Matt Barkley is sitting on the board. Say he has a bad combine and less than impressive pro-day to help this situation along. Since we have an obvious and glaring need for not only a back up to Roethlisberger but a potential replacement, would we spend a second round pick on this kid? His stock went into a complete tailspin and sitting out the final game and the Bowl Game certainly didn't help it back up.

This is the only scenario in which we take a Quarterback in my opinion. I know he's from USC and their last few Quarterbacks have been less than impressive to say the least, but I'd be willing to take that risk for Barkley. I think sitting behind Ben for a few years would ultimately help his progress and make him a potential replacement candidate for Roethlisberger.

So, if he's on the board in the second round when we're picking, do we take him?

MasterOfPuppets
02-01-2013, 04:04 PM
oh hell no

Justp94
02-01-2013, 04:57 PM
oh hell no

FACT!

Steel Glory
02-01-2013, 05:15 PM
I would rather have mark sanchez than matt barkley. Seriously... that's how much I don't like him

SteelersCanada
02-01-2013, 07:19 PM
He has flaws in his mechanics, sure, but those are teachable flaws. He's not as bad as what people are making him out to be, honestly.

cbrunn
02-01-2013, 07:24 PM
No Thanks...

Bring back Denis Dixon , Josh Johnson ...

I would like to sign Pat White ... I read he was trying to make a come back , that kid was a baller

teegre
02-02-2013, 01:40 AM
SteelCanada,
As we have discussed, this is not the year to take a QB.

BUT, I hear what you are saying.

In fact, I was discussing something similar, in another thread. If one of these "average" QBs is still there at 47, then it would be an interesting dilemma. Now, personally, I am more for waiting for a better draft class, but if Barkley or Wilson or Nassib is there... it would make one think for a second.

That said, obviously, none of those guys is a R1 QB (although, due to need, there will be a few who go R1)... and, NONE of them would have been drafted in R2 in last year's draft (although, last year's draft class was an anomaly: five HOF caliber QBs). So, actually, R2 is "about right" for these QBs.

Now... would i take one? Eh... I am leaning towards Alex Carder (in R6). He is just about as good (not much drop off from the #2 rated QB and the #10 rated QB)... and, most importantly, it addresses a need, without having to use a premium draft pick. Then, next year, draft a QB early.

Regarding Barkley:
He is good at throwing receivers open (a difficult trait to teach)... but, his arm is garbage. I live in SoCal, & watch a lot of games with SoCal fans... and these Homers do not even like him. They compare him to Philip Rivers: limited.

teegre
02-02-2013, 01:41 AM
No Thanks...

Bring back Denis Dixon , Josh Johnson ...

I would like to sign Pat White ... I read he was trying to make a come back , that kid was a baller

I... love... Pat... White.

Although, I do not see him as a starting QB (to small). BUT, he is a winner (the only QB in NCAA history to win four bowl games as a starter).

kan_t
02-02-2013, 03:03 AM
No. This year the QB class is just bad. Not a year to pick a QB early.

Steeldude
02-02-2013, 06:38 AM
I'll keep it short and to the point - say we're drafting in the second round this year and, for whatever reason, Matt Barkley is sitting on the board. Say he has a bad combine and less than impressive pro-day to help this situation along. Since we have an obvious and glaring need for not only a back up to Roethlisberger but a potential replacement, would we spend a second round pick on this kid? His stock went into a complete tailspin and sitting out the final game and the Bowl Game certainly didn't help it back up.

This is the only scenario in which we take a Quarterback in my opinion. I know he's from USC and their last few Quarterbacks have been less than impressive to say the least, but I'd be willing to take that risk for Barkley. I think sitting behind Ben for a few years would ultimately help his progress and make him a potential replacement candidate for Roethlisberger.

So, if he's on the board in the second round when we're picking, do we take him?

Why? He isn't a good enough QB to waste a 2nd round pick on. Also, the Steelers don't need a QB in the early rounds.

cbrunn
02-02-2013, 08:14 AM
I... love... Pat... White.

Although, I do not see him as a starting QB (to small). BUT, he is a winner (the only QB in NCAA history to win four bowl games as a starter).

With this New NFL of the Spread teams and QB Option ... and rules that take away Defense on the WR ... I think White would be a beast, if he's like he was in WV

He's the best Read Option QB I've seen and like you said a Winner ... He usually kept it on the ground but in one of those 4 bowl wins I think he threw for over 300 yards too...

I would love to bring him in for Camp and see what he got

WokeUpWithaWoodley
02-02-2013, 08:55 AM
Yeah Ike Taylor can say sorry.

BKAnthem
02-02-2013, 10:11 AM
If he's there at round 5-6 yeah...no earlier than that for a QB in this draft we can sign a servicable journeyman and a low round QB to groom this year or next

teegre
02-03-2013, 09:54 AM
With this New NFL of the Spread teams and QB Option ... and rules that take away Defense on the WR ... I think White would be a beast, if he's like he was in WV

He's the best Read Option QB I've seen and like you said a Winner ... He usually kept it on the ground but in one of those 4 bowl wins I think he threw for over 300 yards too...

I would love to bring him in for Camp and see what he got

An an alumnus luncheon, my uncle walked up to his parents, shook the dad's hand, and said, "Please... have more children."

Bill Parcells agrees with you. When he saw Pat White play, he said that Pat is/was the perfect QB to run the read-option offense.

Alas, as wokeupwithawoodley alluded to (kudos, you beat me to the punchline): getting knocked out is the reason I'm not sold on Pat. Imagine Ryan Clark unloading on him... he might die!!! I'm not sure he'd last an entire season... but... if BB goes down for four games, Pat could last for four games (and, more importantly, Pat would likely go 3-1 in that stretch, because the kid is simply a winner).

SteelersCanada
02-03-2013, 03:13 PM
I'm not so sure on White. I mean, he's smaller than Wallace for God sake. I do think that with the ZBS he would be a good guy to implement the read option with, but I think I'd be more comfortable with a younger guy who's more of a Pocket Passer and someone Ike Taylor didn't absolutely destroy.

If we did bring him along though, I wouldn't complain. He's better than Batch and Leftwich, I'll tell ya that.