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lloydwoodson
02-04-2013, 01:45 AM
Dear Niners fans,

I was really hoping your favourite team was going to beat the Ravens. Hope you get back there next year- you always seem a step closer than the year before. If it is any consolation the "Superbowl Champion T-Shirts" are going to clothe tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. That should give you time to grieve without feeling guilty for a lapse in social activism. Throw some organically grown, fair-trade tomatoes at Culliver if you see him for the rest of us. Better luck next year, Yuppies!

Sincerely,
A Steelers fan.

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BleedPurple
02-04-2013, 02:07 AM
Dear Niners fans,

I was really hoping your favourite team was going to beat the Ravens. Hope you get back there next year- you always seem a step closer than the year before. If it is any consolation the "Superbowl Champion T-Shirts" are going to clothe tens if not hundreds of thousands of people. That should give you time to grieve without feeling guilty for a lapse in social activism. Throw some organically grown, fair-trade tomatoes at Culliver if you see him for the rest of us. Better luck next year, Yuppies!

Sincerely,
A Steelers fan.

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Since they won't let me make an account on their forums I will post it here: to all 9ers fans crying about the hold in the endzone on the punt with ~12 seconds left. . . got news for ya, there were 8-9 holds on that play. John told the entire TEAM to hold, because guess what offensive holding in the endzone is. . . A SAFETY! AND IT DOESN'T STOP THE CLOCK!

Geeze just pisses me off because they were all crying over it. . .

MasterOfPuppets
02-04-2013, 02:10 AM
Since they won't let me make an account on their forums I will post it here: to all 9ers fans crying about the hold in the endzone on the punt with ~12 seconds left. . . got news for ya, there were 8-9 holds on that play. John told the entire TEAM to hold, because guess what offensive holding in the endzone is. . . A SAFETY! AND IT DOESN'T STOP THE CLOCK!

Geeze just pisses me off because they were all crying over it. . .
but why wasn't it called ?

BleedPurple
02-04-2013, 02:20 AM
but why wasn't it called ?

I'm curious as well, but it could be it wasn't called because it didn't make any difference. Honestly, there should have been lots of laundry on the field.

Stu Pidasso
02-04-2013, 02:26 AM
but why wasn't it called ?

NOTHING was called in that game.

#29 for the Ravens hit a referee, kept yelling at him, had to be physically pulled away from him, all with his helmet off, and there WASN'T EVEN A FLAG, let alone him being thrown out. At that point I knew the Ravens were going to win. What if that was Harrison?

steelerchad
02-04-2013, 08:41 AM
I'm curious as well, but it could be it wasn't called because it didn't make any difference. Honestly, there should have been lots of laundry on the field.

Yeah. I knew it when I saw it that it was intentional holding by the entire team. Very smart call as there would have been no penalty for doing it. Still a little shock why they wouldn't throw the flag though. When the whole line is basically tackling or bear hugging their man right in front of all the officials and not one of them throws a flag makes you wonder what the hell they are even doing out there.

BleedPurple
02-04-2013, 06:34 PM
Yeah. I knew it when I saw it that it was intentional holding by the entire team. Very smart call as there would have been no penalty for doing it. Still a little shock why they wouldn't throw the flag though. When the whole line is basically tackling or bear hugging their man right in front of all the officials and not one of them throws a flag makes you wonder what the hell they are even doing out there.

Well, the really interesting thing would have been if Koch had thrown a pass out of the endzone at the end of the play (never in a million years would he, but just speaking hypothetically that would have made that play really controversial).

Thinking back, I believe if Koch had attempted/completed a pass after burning clock hiding behind the holds you would have seen the flags come out. As it happened, a flag was really not going to make any difference. By rule, they can't put time back on the clock for holding in the end zone. The penalty for holding in the end zone is already a safety, the 2 pts is supposed to be the punishment.

I think the competition committee may even take a look at this and make the penalty 2 pts OR put time back on the clock and make them rerun the play, which would take away the advantage of using a penalized hold to run out clock on 4th down. For this year though it was a great coaching decision by JH in my opinion, curious what you all think.

lloydwoodson
02-04-2013, 07:43 PM
There were 12 seconds left on the clock when it came time for the punt. It really didn't matter whether JH told his team to hold or not- the game was over.

I thought the clock management by Baltimore to end the first half was atrocious.

One of the worst superbowls I can remember. The damn game would not end. It was like a 5 hour game.

Referees blow calls in every game. There is no conspiracy but the Ravens have been lucky with the calls they have received over the years.

dez09231
02-04-2013, 08:44 PM
That lack of holding call made absolutely no difference. What would've happened? Time would've ran out a couple of seconds further into the kick off return?

tony hipchest
02-04-2013, 09:23 PM
I think the competition committee may even take a look at this and make the penalty 2 pts OR put time back on the clock and make them rerun the play, which would take away the advantage of using a penalized hold to run out clock on 4th down. For this year though it was a great coaching decision by JH in my opinion, curious what you all think.it WAS a great call by asshole #1 cause it showed he knew the rules and put thought into every possible scenario, and maximized every possible outcome in his favor. the worst thing that coulda happened was a kick return which coulda happened just as easilly on a punt.

im sure asshole #2 told him "good call" after the game (or today/tomorrow) as well.

the competition committee will have no choice but to look at it, but what is the solution? probably a safety and the opposite of the "15 second run-off" rule.

JeromeBetties63
02-05-2013, 11:49 AM
Since they won't let me make an account on their forums I will post it here: to all 9ers fans crying about the hold in the endzone on the punt with ~12 seconds left. . . got news for ya, there were 8-9 holds on that play. John told the entire TEAM to hold, because guess what offensive holding in the endzone is. . . A SAFETY! AND IT DOESN'T STOP THE CLOCK!

Geeze just pisses me off because they were all crying over it. . .

Uh, the one they are complaining about is the hold on the 49ers last offensive play. :banging:

wwhickok
02-05-2013, 11:56 AM
Since they won't let me make an account on their forums I will post it here: to all 9ers fans crying about the hold in the endzone on the punt with ~12 seconds left. . . got news for ya, there were 8-9 holds on that play. John told the entire TEAM to hold, because guess what offensive holding in the endzone is. . . A SAFETY! AND IT DOESN'T STOP THE CLOCK!

Geeze just pisses me off because they were all crying over it. . .



You just contradicted yourself....IF they had called holding it wouldve immediately stopped the clock and it wouldve resulted in a saftey. Forcing the Ravens to have to punt with about 8-9the seconda on the clock possibly.

BUT the holding call that wasnt called....was blatantly defesnive holding. Which would/should have given the 49ers an automatic first down on the one.

Welcome to the world of tainted Super Bowls b****es ;)

harrison'samonster
02-05-2013, 12:12 PM
You just contradicted yourself....IF they had called holding it wouldve immediately stopped the clock and it wouldve resulted in a saftey. Forcing the Ravens to have to punt with about 8-9the seconda on the clock possibly.

BUT the holding call that wasnt called....was blatantly defesnive holding. Which would/should have given the 49ers an automatic first down on the one.

Welcome to the world of tainted Super Bowls b****es ;)

That defensive holding call that wasn't called gets me. I give the Ravens credit for winning and they played like winners. However, by not calling that penalty the refs took the game out of the players hands.

BleedPurple
02-05-2013, 04:54 PM
Uh, the one they are complaining about is the hold on the 49ers last offensive play. :banging:

No they are complaining about both, did you even go to a 9ers board?

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/171031-too-bad-werent-allowed-block-like/

From the thread:

"John tells his players to hold and kill the clock to take the safety either way. How can a whole team hold that obviously and not one get called for it? That should tell you what the Ravens were getting away with on our last drive."

And there were several other threads merged earlier in the week. So . . . you were saying?

BleedPurple
02-05-2013, 04:56 PM
You just contradicted yourself....IF they had called holding it wouldve immediately stopped the clock and it wouldve resulted in a saftey. Forcing the Ravens to have to punt with about 8-9the seconda on the clock possibly.

BUT the holding call that wasnt called....was blatantly defesnive holding. Which would/should have given the 49ers an automatic first down on the one.

Welcome to the world of tainted Super Bowls b****es ;)

Wrong, calling holding doesn't stop the play. In what game have you ever seen holding stop a play? It isn't a pre-snap penalty. Seriously, just think about what you said. If holding stopped a play you could use it to negate a sack. Know you QB is going to be tackled for an 8 yard loss and loss of down? Just commit a holding penalty and get the play blown dead before the sack can happen! The defense can't decline the penalty because the play was not completed, they have to accept a 10 yard loss. Boom, save the loss of down and keep the 2 yards.

Are you daft or just being intentionally thick in an ironic impression of a Steelers fan?

JeromeBetties63
02-05-2013, 10:12 PM
No they are complaining about both, did you even go to a 9ers board?

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/171031-too-bad-werent-allowed-block-like/

From the thread:

"John tells his players to hold and kill the clock to take the safety either way. How can a whole team hold that obviously and not one get called for it? That should tell you what the Ravens were getting away with on our last drive."

And there were several other threads merged earlier in the week. So . . . you were saying?

I'm saying the Ravens got away with holding....twice. But the one that matters is the hold on the offensive play. And that's the one most people were complaining about. Don't strain at a gnat to swallow a camel.

teegre
02-06-2013, 12:27 AM
Since they won't let me make an account on their forums I will post it here: to all 9ers fans crying about the hold in the endzone on the punt with ~12 seconds left. . . got news for ya, there were 8-9 holds on that play. John told the entire TEAM to hold, because guess what offensive holding in the endzone is. . . A SAFETY! AND IT DOESN'T STOP THE CLOCK!

Geeze just pisses me off because they were all crying over it. . .

I agree: that was a smart call by John. Because, you are right: if the refs call holding... oh well.. they were going for the safety anyway. [Note to all: throwing a flag would not have stopped the clock; the play had to end first, and then the penalty would be assessed... just like on every other offensive play.]

Ugh... did I just agree with a Ravens fan!?! I feel so dirty... ick.

Speaking of holding... the PI on Jimmy Smith... uh... that is a different story...