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Fire Haley
02-11-2013, 09:02 AM
Pope Benedict XVI in shock resignation

Pope Benedict XVI is to resign at the end of this month after nearly eight years as the head of the Catholic Church, saying he is too old to continue at the age of 85.

The unexpected development - the first papal resignation in nearly 600 years - surprised governments, Vatican-watchers and even the his closest aides.


"In today's world, subject to so many rapid changes and shaken by questions of deep relevance for the life of faith, in order to steer the boat of Saint Peter and proclaim the Gospel, both strength of mind and body are necessary, strength which in the last few months, has deteriorated in me to the extent that I have had to recognise my incapacity to adequately fulfil the ministry entrusted to me.

"For this reason, and well aware of the seriousness of this act, with full freedom I declare that I renounce the ministry of Bishop of Rome, Successor of Saint Peter, entrusted to me by the cardinals on 19 April 2005, in such a way, that as from 28 February 2013, at 20:00 hours, the See of Rome, the See of Saint Peter, will be vacant and a conclave to elect the new Supreme Pontiff will have to be convoked by those whose competence it is."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-21411304

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time to sit back,, drink some wine, check out the skirts...

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 09:56 AM
Selfless act to give up the job because you believe you are no longer up to it:hatsoff:

Fire Haley
02-11-2013, 09:58 AM
so he pulled a Joe Paterno - one too many scandals if you ask me

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 10:23 AM
The bizarre stories of the four other popes to have resigned in the last 1,000 years

Pope Benedict IX, in 1045: At age 33 and about 10 years into his tumultuous term, the Rome-born pope resigned so that he could get married – and to collect some cash from his godfather, also Roman, who paid Benedict IX to step down so that he might replace him, according to British historian Reginald L. Poole’s definitive and much-cited history of the 11th Century .

Pope Gregory VI, in 1046: The same man who had bribed and replaced his godson ended up leaving the office himself only a year later, according to Poole’s account. The trouble began when Benedict IX failed to secure the bride he’d resigned for, leading him to change his mind and return to the Vatican. Both popes remained in the city, both claiming to rule the Catholic church, for several months. That fall, the increasingly despondent clergy called on the German Emperor Henry III, of the Holy Roman Empire, to invade Rome and remove them both. When Henry III arrived, he treated Gregory VI as the rightful pope but urged him to stand before a council of fellow church leaders. The bishops urged Gregory VI to resign for bribing his way into office. Though the fresh new pope argued that he had done nothing wrong in buying the Papacy, he stepped down anyway.

Pope Celestine V, in 1294: After only five months in office, the somber Sicilian pope formally decreed that popes now had the right to resign, which he immediately used. according to a report in the Guardian. He wrote, referring to himself in the third person, that he had resigned out of “the desire for humility, for a purer life, for a stainless conscience, the deficiencies of his own physical strength, his ignorance, the perverseness of the people, his longing for the tranquility of his former life.” He became a hermit, but two years later was dragged out of solitude by his successor, who locked him up in an Italian castle. Celestine died 10 months later.

Pope Gregory XII, in 1415: The elderly Venetian had held the office for 10 years, but he was not the only pope. For decades, the Western Schism had left Europe with two popes, one in Rome and one in the French city of Avignon, according to Britannica. The schism’s causes were political rather than theological: the pope had tremendous power over European politics, which had led its kings to become gradually more aggressive in manipulating the church’s leaders. Gregory XII resigned so that a special council in Constance, which is today a German city, could excommunicate the Avignon-based pope and start fresh with a new, single leader of the Catholic church.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/11/the-bizarre-stories-of-the-four-other-popes-to-have-resigned-in-the-last-1000-years/?hpid=z2

Fire Haley
02-11-2013, 10:31 AM
you think he's getting married?

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 10:35 AM
you think he's getting married?

Random speculation here

The Resignation of Pope Benedict XVI: Is It Health? Or Politics? Or Both?

The conclave that will elect the next pope has yet to be assembled but, even if he isn’t present in the Sistine Chapel, Benedict’s living presence as the Emeritus Pontiff is bound to influence the vote. (He is past the age of eligibility of casting a vote.) This sort of informal influence has proved powerful in other cultures—particularly Japan and China, where “retired” shoguns and emperors continued to make pivotal decisions. Thus, just by living, Joseph Ratzinger, by then the ex-Pope Benedict XVI with a title yet to be decided, will be able to champion his conservative theological and social policies and stack the decks so that a successor of like mind and spirit is enthroned.

http://world.time.com/2013/02/11/the-resignation-of-pope-benedict-xvi-is-it-health-or-politics-or-both/

So unlike JoePa he will have a role in the selection of the next head coach

Vis
02-11-2013, 10:44 AM
What time of day on his last day does his infallibility lapse?

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 11:18 AM
What time of day on his last day does his infallibility lapse?

Other pressing questions

Among other questions, reporters asked Father Lombardi what the pope will be called after his resignation and what he will wear.

The spokesman said he had no answers to those questions

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/latest-updates-on-popes-resignation/?hp#video-of-vatican-news-conference

Vis
02-11-2013, 11:31 AM
Other pressing questions

Among other questions, reporters asked Father Lombardi what the pope will be called after his resignation and what he will wear.

The spokesman said he had no answers to those questions

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/11/latest-updates-on-popes-resignation/?hp#video-of-vatican-news-conference


Is the then called the Holy Seen or the Holy Saw?

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 12:59 PM
Twitter’s best Pope resignation jokes

Nate Silver ✔ @fivethirtyeight
No pope has resigned since 1415, which is also the last time the Pittsburgh Pirates had a winning record.

Will Brinson @willbrinson
You all read it wrong. The Pope is RE-SIGNING. $10M, 5 year extension.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/02/11/pope-benedict-xvi-announces-resignation/#liveblog-entry-6723

Vis
02-11-2013, 01:39 PM
Frankie Boyle@frankieboyle
There'll be a resignation ceremony for the Pope, where he fires electrical rays from his fingers as Darth Vader throws him down a lift shaft


Frankie Boyle@frankieboyle
The Pope must have done something even the Church finds unacceptable. I'm guessing he's shagged an adult woman.

MasterOfPuppets
02-11-2013, 03:02 PM
if only the scumbags in DC would follow suit.....

BrandonCarr39
02-11-2013, 03:18 PM
Not that I put alot of stock into this "prophecy", but some guy by the name of St. Malachi "prophecized" that there were be 112 Popes, with the last one being called Peter the Roman.

Benedict is the 111th one, and for now the current frontrunner is Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson.

Prophecy of the Popes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Cardinals From Canada, Africa Lead in Papal Betting
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-11/ghana-s-turkson-favorite-to-be-next-pope-after-benedict-resigns.html

Ghanian Cardinal Peter Turkson is the favorite to become pope after Benedict XVI resigns at the end of the month, according to Paddy Power Plc. Photographer: Gregorio Borgia/AP

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/ia49Eg9NteHk.jpg

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson

As Predicted By St. Malachy Before Tom Horn & Cris Putnam -- The Last Pope Is Here!

As the legend goes, Malachy experienced what is today considered a famous vision commonly called “The Prophecy of the Popes.” The prophecy is a list of Latin verses predicting each of the Roman Catholic popes from Pope Celestine II to the final pope, “Peter the Roman,” whose reign would end in the destruction of Rome. According to this ancient prophecy, the very next pope (following Benedict XVI) will be the final pontiff, Petrus Romanus or Peter the Roman. The final segment of the prophecy reads:

In persecutione extrema S. R. E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oves in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis civitas septicollis deruetur et judex tremendus judicabit populum. Finis.[xii]

Which is rendered:

In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations; when they are over, the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the terrible or fearsome Judge will judge his people. The End.[xiii]...

http://www.raidersnewsupdate.com/petrus-one.htm

Vis
02-11-2013, 03:20 PM
Not that I put alot of stock into this "prophecy", but some guy by the name of St. Malachi "prophecized" that there were be 112 Popes, with the last one being called Peter the Roman.

Benedict is the 111th one, and for now the current frontrunner is Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson.

Prophecy of the Popes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

Cardinals From Canada, Africa Lead in Papal Betting
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-11/ghana-s-turkson-favorite-to-be-next-pope-after-benedict-resigns.html

Ghanian Cardinal Peter Turkson is the favorite to become pope after Benedict XVI resigns at the end of the month, according to Paddy Power Plc. Photographer: Gregorio Borgia/AP

http://www.bloomberg.com/image/ia49Eg9NteHk.jpg

Ghana's Cardinal Peter Turkson


Peter the Ghanian is not Peter the Roman

BrandonCarr39
02-11-2013, 03:23 PM
Rev 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great ***** that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
Rev 17:3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17:6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
Rev 17:7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.


Rome(where the Vatican is) sits on 7 mountains. Not many places on earth has cities surrounded by 7 mountains - Dayton, Ohio maybe? Other than that, no other major cities but Rome.

BrandonCarr39
02-11-2013, 03:24 PM
Peter the Ghanian is not Peter the Roman

If/when he takes the Pope's position, his name will likely be changed to that. We'll see.

Ie-Benedict's real name is Joseph Razinger.

MasterOfPuppets
02-11-2013, 03:28 PM
so your sayin i wasted my time sending in a resume ? :doh:

Vis
02-11-2013, 03:32 PM
If/when he takes the Pope's position, his name will likely be changed to that. We'll see.

Ie-Benedict's real name is Joseph Razinger.


Then the fact that his real name is Peter means nothing

BrandonCarr39
02-11-2013, 03:36 PM
The Popes and their Jesuits are also responsible for running(pretty much) the countries in this world - they pick and choose the leaders(but are able to pull off making it look like candidates are running against each other).

They also are responsible for infiltrating Baptist/Protestant churches(ie-Southern Baptist Convention) and putting out all of these false bible versions out there - NIV, NKJV, NASB, NWT, RSV, New Century, Message, etc, along with books by "influential christian" authors like Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, Beth Moore, Max Lucado, etc(all of whom have endorsed RCC teachings).

1611 King James Bible is the only true word of God out there - based on the majority texts/textus receptus that came out of Antioch, while the other versions came out of Alexandria, Egypt.

For more on this...

Noise of Thunder Radio with Chris Pinto
http://www.noiseofthunder.com

New Age Bible Versions by Gail Ripplinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQ_W6-tb84

Vis
02-11-2013, 04:00 PM
The Popes and their Jesuits are also responsible for running(pretty much) the countries in this world - they pick and choose the leaders(but are able to pull off making it look like candidates are running against each other).

They also are responsible for infiltrating Baptist/Protestant churches(ie-Southern Baptist Convention) and putting out all of these false bible versions out there - NIV, NKJV, NASB, NWT, RSV, New Century, Message, etc, along with books by "influential christian" authors like Rick Warren, Bill Hybels, Brian McLaren, Tony Jones, Beth Moore, Max Lucado, etc(all of whom have endorsed RCC teachings).

1611 King James Bible is the only true word of God out there - based on the majority texts/textus receptus that came out of Antioch, while the other versions came out of Alexandria, Egypt.

For more on this...

Noise of Thunder Radio with Chris Pinto
http://www.noiseofthunder.com

New Age Bible Versions by Gail Ripplinger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpQ_W6-tb84

The King James version is not Catholic. The first editions had gender mistakes - so much for the true word of God. And it was derivative of the Geneva Bible albeit, with prettier language. beware people giving bad history to make obnoxious claims.

The Catholic church, within the century before the KJV were still putting Englishmen on the rack for daring to own a bible in English. Read up on Thomas More. Sure that's ancient history but they made More, the torturing bastard, a saint in 1935 and the patron saint of Politicians in 2000. How lovely of them.

SteelersCanada
02-11-2013, 06:30 PM
Why do I feel like there's a big child molestation story coming soon?

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 06:34 PM
Why do I feel like there's a big child molestation story coming soon?

Involving him?

Otherwise how much worse could those atrocities be?:noidea:

Vis
02-11-2013, 06:50 PM
Why do I feel like there's a big child molestation story coming soon?

Just the opposite. his infirmity has interfered with his alter boy ego.

Atlanta Dan
02-11-2013, 09:55 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/02/11/article-2276884-17841A9A000005DC-22_634x815.jpg

A sign from God? Lighting strikes the basilica of St.Peter's dome earlier this evening during a storm that struck Rome on the same day Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2276884/Pope-Benedict-XVI-resigns-First-Pontiff-600-years-stand-longer-strength-carry-on.html

This is it! This is the sign!
Yeah, it's a sign, all right - "Going out of business".
Ghostbusters

SteelersCanada
02-11-2013, 09:58 PM
Involving him?

Otherwise how much worse could those atrocities be?:noidea:

Not necessarily, but an Archbishop or someone he personally appointed and/or put in a position of power. If there's already a new Pope in place, the story wouldn't explode the way it would have.

I mean, it could backfire and the media will have a field day with the story but if it is indeed because of pedophilia, I'm glad he's doing the honorable thing and removing himself. I mean, this came out of nowhere. Something's up.

Vis
02-12-2013, 06:22 AM
Pope Benedict XVI Resigning Papacy To Coach Football At Penn State

The Vatican announced that Pope Benedict XVI will being leaving Rome and head to Pennsylvania to begin getting ready for next years football season as head coach of the Nittany Lions.

Looking at the recent history of youth sex scandal and abuse coming from the team the 85-year-old Pontiff feels they could use someone far more experienced and better at shifting blame to cover it all up.

In a recent tweet the Pope said, “Joe Paterno tried his best to keep it all under cover, but they could really use a pro.” Then seconds later he tweeted, “They need to just shift coaches from team to team to really keep it under wraps.”

When asked if he understands football well enough to coach Pope Benedict replied, “I’m just a figurehead, everyone else always does the work for me anyway. It’s merely just a shift in job title.”

Come this fall when the Nittany Lions take the field we’ll see how well Coach Bennie will prevail.

MACH1
02-13-2013, 06:09 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/535904_10151483098341257_63405409_n.png

WVABE
02-13-2013, 06:44 PM
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/s480x480/535904_10151483098341257_63405409_n.png

:rofl:


:fro: to cool dude.

aa14
02-13-2013, 08:07 PM
Involving him?

Otherwise how much worse could those atrocities be?:noidea:

Before he was pope and just a cardinal he was responsible for moving around several sexual predators and keeping their crimes private. The policies the church had for victims of sexual abuse was insane. Excommunication for victims if they spoke out about the alleged crime until they reached a certain age. He wasn't a predator himself but the way he protected the church from scandal is outrageous. He is supposed to be the vicar of Christ? Yeah, right. The late Christopher Hitchens spoke of this often and I remember him debating that asshole Donahue (the head of the Catholic League, not the talk show guy) on youtube, it would be easy to find.

I could go on and on and on about the Vatican. They have their own god-damned city state, a palace filled with ostentatious and garish wealth. It is apparent in which life these men want power and prestige and it sure isn't the afterlife. I'm sure Jesus would look at the Vatican or church at large and be filled with joy at the direction they've taken the past twelve hundred years.

Atlanta Dan
02-13-2013, 09:06 PM
Before he was pope and just a cardinal he was responsible for moving around several sexual predators and keeping their crimes private. The policies the church had for victims of sexual abuse was insane. Excommunication for victims if they spoke out about the alleged crime until they reached a certain age. He wasn't a predator himself but the way he protected the church from scandal is outrageous. He is supposed to be the vicar of Christ? Yeah, right. The late Christopher Hitchens spoke of this often and I remember him debating that asshole Donahue (the head of the Catholic League, not the talk show guy) on youtube, it would be easy to find.

I could go on and on and on about the Vatican. They have their own god-damned city state, a palace filled with ostentatious and garish wealth. It is apparent in which life these men want power and prestige and it sure isn't the afterlife. I'm sure Jesus would look at the Vatican or church at large and be filled with joy at the direction they've taken the past twelve hundred years.

Agreed about his activities both in Germany and when in Rome prior to becoming Pope - but that is all out there - the post to which I responded was whether his sudden abdication is because a new scandal is about to blow up

WVABE
02-14-2013, 01:04 PM
http://itccs.org/2013/02/13/pope-benedict-resigned-to-avoid-arrest-seizure-of-church-wealth-by-easter/

Havik
02-17-2013, 04:08 PM
goodbye Pope Benedict. like I really care. the Catholic Church is a pedophile factory that allows its priests to rape children.