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Hawaii 5-0
03-20-2013, 02:04 AM
Steelers will run behind hybrid blocking scheme in 2013

By SteelCityRoller on Mar 19 2013

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While the team will be entering 2013 with a new offensive line coach and opening-day starter, the team will not be committing itself to wholesale philosophy changes.

The Pittsburgh Steelers head coach Mike Tomlin addressed members of the media on Tuesday at the owner's meetings. He was asked about the rumors which have the team transitioning to a zone-block running scheme in 2013, after the team collectively recorded one of the worst rushing performances in franchise history.

According to Tomlin, the team will be looking into it through camp, and hope to use elements of it in their 2013 game-plans; but the team will not commit itself to a philosophy it does not have the means to implement.

When Sean Kugler vacated his position to become the head coach at his alma-mater UTEP, the team replaced him with Jack Bicknell, Jr., who was seen as a zone-blocking artist upon his hiring. Despite his experience base, the team will not expect their roster to completely change their mindset in just one training-camp.

The coaching staff and front office know who they have personnel wise, and will not ask their current players to stray too far from their own strengths; but zone-blocking elements will be installed, creating a hybrid version of the man-blocking scheme of previous years. Whether or not this is a plan to slowly transition the team to a zone-scheme for the long-term future has yet to be seen, although should the team find the vast improvement it seeks, they may just continue doing what works.

This hybrid scheme will also benefit the running backs, as Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman have been deemed unfit for strictly-zone-blocked duty. Both could benefit from the change-up in schematics, granting the team extra time to find more-worthy candidates.

If there was ever a time to begin making such a transition, it is now. Recently re-signed Ramon Foster is now the eldest member of the offensive line, in his fifth NFL season. The team's accrued youth will be able to grow with the new system, rather than attempting to force it down the throats of entrenched veterans.

While it all sounds great in theory, as Mike Tomlin puts it, "This is all March talk." The final stat lines and play-off seedings in 2013 will determine whether this new hybrid approach was a success, or a failure.

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2013/3/19/4125088/steelers-will-run-behind-hybrid-blocking-scheme-in-2013

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-20-2013, 10:01 PM
So funny, all of the cyber-GM's on this board were pencilling in an Alex Gibbs inspired zone block offense (when many are not sure what it really is) for the Steelers in Feb. Tomlin dispells the rumors in March.

So they are likely going to run some form of blocking scheme that employs combination blocks a the point of attack and then the one O lineman will scrape to the 2nd level to get the LB, similar to an inside zone system. Also, will keep elements of a power man scheme to try and pry open some running lanes.

I like it. Bicknell is likely showing some versatility and may run more of a Zone first, but man 2nd scheme. I doubt we see any stretch plays with the RB's on the current roster, but inside zone can work with this group.

Steeler7BR
03-21-2013, 07:57 AM
So funny, all of the cyber-GM's on this board were pencilling in an Alex Gibbs inspired zone block offense (when many are not sure what it really is) for the Steelers in Feb. Tomlin dispells the rumors in March.

So they are likely going to run some form of blocking scheme that employs combination blocks a the point of attack and then the one O lineman will scrape to the 2nd level to get the LB, similar to an inside zone system. Also, will keep elements of a power man scheme to try and pry open some running lanes.

I like it. Bicknell is likely showing some versatility and may run more of a Zone first, but man 2nd scheme. I doubt we see any stretch plays with the RB's on the current roster, but inside zone can work with this group.

Let's just say with our current Running Backs isn't much improvement to make. And to talk about a scheme without knowing our No.1 Running Back for next season is kind of unnecessary too.

Don't wanna knock you off their but until the draft we shouldn't worry about those type of things.

steelfury02
03-21-2013, 08:32 AM
I'm not going to pretend I know what is going to work best or that I'm inside the minds of the coaches but I do know when I hear the word hybrid it means that you're good at a couple of things and great at nothing

harrison'samonster
03-21-2013, 01:29 PM
Steelfury, I don't know which would be better myself, I do know that if Bellichek announced he'd be going with a hybrid blocking scheme people on here would be proclaiming him a genius, and saying it will revolutionize the game.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-21-2013, 01:58 PM
I'm not going to pretend I know what is going to work best or that I'm inside the minds of the coaches but I do know when I hear the word hybrid it means that you're good at a couple of things and great at nothing

I dont think so in this case. With inside zone blocking, you get to blocking the LB, by double teaming the down lineman and then sliding off 1 O Lineman to the 2nd level. With Man blocking, you block the LB's by assigning an OL to him and the other OL needs to get the down lineman.

In this case, its a bit like running play action so the defensive front 7 doesnt know if you are blocking Zone or blocking Man, in the run game.

I like it and even Russ Grimm used to mix in some ZBS with a primarily Man blocking system.

steelfury02
03-21-2013, 02:47 PM
I dont think so in this case. With inside zone blocking, you get to blocking the LB, by double teaming the down lineman and then sliding off 1 O Lineman to the 2nd level. With Man blocking, you block the LB's by assigning an OL to him and the other OL needs to get the down lineman.

In this case, its a bit like running play action so the defensive front 7 doesnt know if you are blocking Zone or blocking Man, in the run game.

I like it and even Russ Grimm used to mix in some ZBS with a primarily Man blocking system.

ok - I can understand / get on board with that :thumbsup:

TheVet
03-21-2013, 05:36 PM
I don't care whether we go hybrid or mutant, we need to keep trying things until something works. Our OL has been an embarrassment for six or seven years now.

Buddha Bus
03-21-2013, 06:00 PM
I don't care whether we go hybrid or mutant, we need to keep trying things until something works. Our OL has been an embarrassment for six or seven years now.



Ladies and gentlemen, your 2013 Pittsburgh Steelers starting offensive line!


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harrison'samonster
03-21-2013, 06:10 PM
that's an uncanny offensive line

jacobo
03-21-2013, 06:18 PM
Did Decastro get some work done? He looks beautiful

steelfury02
03-21-2013, 09:09 PM
that's an uncanny offensive line

Where's Black Panther? - wait, wrong group

Hawaii 5-0
03-22-2013, 08:58 PM
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Hawaii 5-0
03-29-2013, 01:34 PM
The Line On The Steelers Offensive Line and It’s New Coach

March 28th, 2013
Written By: Steve Kimble

On January 29, 2013 the Pittsburgh Steelers hired new offensive line coach Jack Bicknell Jr. So what’s the line on the Steelers offensive line and it’s new Coach?

Here is a little back ground on Jack Bicknell Jr. to help us gain a little insight on what changes may come and what he may bring to the Steelers offensive line.

Bicknell was the starting center for Boston College and was part of one of the most historic plays in college football history when he snapped the ball to QB Doug Flutie in the famous Hail Mary play to beat Miami 47-45 in 1984. Bicknell’s father Jack Bicknell was Boston College’s head coach at the time.

Jack Bicknell Jr. began coaching as a graduate assistant at Boston College. He later coached at New Hampshire with stints coaching the defensive line and offensive line. From 1999-2006 he was head coach of the Louisiana Tech Bulldogs with a total record of 43-52.

Bicknell began his NFL coaching career as an assistant offensive line coach on the New York Giants in 2008 and was part of the 2011 Super Bowl Champions. The offensive line that season allowed only 28 quarterback sacks.

In 2012 Bicknell moved on to Kansas City to become the Chiefs offensive line coach and that line excelled at a high level run blocking. The Chiefs’ ran the ball for an average of 4.8 yards as a team and ranked 5th in rushing in 2012.

Jamal Charles, the Chiefs’ feature running back, had a great year averaging 5.3 yards a carry for 1509 yards and 5 TDS, and the Chiefs played against some of the NFL’s top run defenses such as division foes San Diego and Denver each twice.

The Steelers have tried the past few seasons to improve their running game and line play so you can see why a guy like Bicknell Jr. may have intrigued them.

Here are a couple quotes from Steelers coach Mike Tomlin following Bicknell’s hiring…

“Obviously Jamaal Charles is a talented runner but when you look at their tape, there are running lanes. They did a nice job of not only getting hats on hats, but the technique with which they executed those blocks, and the demeanor they displayed individually and collectively in how they finished plays were attractive coaching aspects of the tape.”

“They played the AFC North, and they ran the ball very well against all the teams in the AFC North . They ran the ball effectively against us when Jamaal Charles had a 100-yard game. That was attractive to me. The plan they were able to put together, the success they were able to have vs. some people we are going to see quite a bit was a selling feature.”

The Chiefs averaged 6.9 yards a carry against the Browns, 4.3 against the Bengals, 4.2 against the Ravens and 4.1 against the Steelers. Those are good rushing averages against some stout defenses.

So Tomlin had some good reasons for his choice of Bicknell and it falls in line with the Steelers emphasis to establish a more consistent productive running game.

Bicknell by all accounts is a coach who stresses technique, likes his players smart and well prepared and wants athletic, quick footed players that move well and can make changes on the fly.

Hopefully Bicknell’s fondness for technique and players being well prepared will result in fewer pre-snap penalties, they seemed to plague the Steelers last season.

Bicknell seems to be a big fan of zone blocking schemes and stretch plays. These type of schemes and plays require quick mobile linemen. It’s easy to see how this hire may have spelled doom for players such as Willie Colon, Max Starks, and Doug Legursky, and their future as Steelers while also playing to the strengths of players such as Maurkice Pouncey, David DeCastro, and Mike Adams. Three players that seem to be the future core of the Steelers offensive line .

So you see many changes have taken place with the Steelers’ offensive line and its coaching philosophies. It’s this writer’s opinion that the hiring of Jack Bicknell Jr. was a definite step in the right direction.

http://www.steelersgab.com/2013/03/28/the-line-on-the-steelers-offensive-line-and-its-new-coach/

TheVet
03-29-2013, 06:31 PM
I don't care whether we go hybrid or mutant, we need to keep trying things until something works. Our OL has been an embarrassment for six or seven years now.
Ladies and gentlemen, your 2013 Pittsburgh Steelers starting offensive line!

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/x-men-first-class-1.jpg

Hahahah, I just saw this. GREAT!!!!