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fer522
03-27-2013, 03:41 PM
What do you guys think? We've lost a few DB's and this guy can flat out play AND we could prolly get him in R4

harrison'samonster
03-27-2013, 03:47 PM
if he's around in the 4th, he'd be a great pick.

fer522
03-27-2013, 03:52 PM
We should get him in R3 if he's still there


Consensus All-American (2011)
First-team All-SEC (2011)
SEC Defensive Player of the Year (2011)
SEC Championship Game MVP (2011)
Chuck Bednarik Award (2011)
Cotton Bowl Defensive MVP (2011)

harrison'samonster
03-27-2013, 03:56 PM
i would think if he's around in the 3rd and they really want him they would grab him then. I wouldn't risk another round. Would be nice to trade back and pick up an extra pick, or maybe the Pats give us there 3rd.

Hawaii 5-0
03-27-2013, 04:01 PM
I don't think the Steelers will draft a guy who has failed numerous drug tests.

teegre
03-27-2013, 04:15 PM
We should get him in R3 if he's still there


Consensus All-American (2011)
First-team All-SEC (2011)
SEC Defensive Player of the Year (2011)
SEC Championship Game MVP (2011)
Chuck Bednarik Award (2011)
Cotton Bowl Defensive MVP (2011)
Drug addict (2011-present)


I added one more achievment.

Bane
03-27-2013, 04:16 PM
I don't think the Steelers will draft a guy who has failed numerous drug tests.

Normally I'd agree, but he's been adamant about those days being behind him. That story worked for Mike Adams. :chuckle:

pete74
03-27-2013, 04:53 PM
I doubt we would take him. To many problems and he's really small

6RingsAndCounting
03-27-2013, 05:03 PM
I added one more achievment.

More like D.O.B.-Present

6RingsAndCounting
03-27-2013, 05:06 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000154237/article/tyrann-mathieu-is-a-secondround-talent-three-potential-nfl-fits

Pittsburgh Steelers: The Steelers typically prefer bigger cornerbacks, but Mathieu could be an intriguing option due to his versatility as a defender. He has the capacity to cover outside as a corner or blitz off the edges from the slot. In coordinator Dick LeBeau's aggressive zone-blitz scheme, versatile players like Mathieu are valued at a premium. Additionally, Mathieu's ability to provide an impact as a punt returner could allow Antonio Brown to concentrate on developing into a true No. 1 receiver. Factoring in Mike Tomlin's tough-love approach with his players, a marriage between Mathieu and Pittsburgh seems like it might be a viable option on draft day.

Follow Bucky Brooks on Twitter @BuckyBrooks.

SteelersCanada
03-27-2013, 05:18 PM
They'll look at his chequered past and pass.

teegre
03-27-2013, 05:21 PM
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000154237/article/tyrann-mathieu-is-a-secondround-talent-three-potential-nfl-fits

Hmmm...

I guess that Mathieu & Adams can hot-box, while Ta'amu drives.

Rabbit
03-27-2013, 05:28 PM
As previously mentioned, there's pretty much a slim to none chance we draft him because of his character problems. That said, he was never a highly rated pro prospect because he got to freelance too often in the LSU defense. He was a great return man, sure, but his coverage skills have always been lackluster. He got to play in the slot while two top ten picks (Patrick Peterson & Morris Claiborne) stifled the other teams' passing attacks. Most of his big plays on defense came on blitzes and run support, which almost never happens with corners at the NFL level. He's simply too small to be anything other than a nickel corner and return specialist, and with the baggage he brings I don't see him being an option.

zcoop
03-27-2013, 07:02 PM
We may not draft him but whoever does will get an excellent player. This kid can play and he excelled in the best conference in college football. If he can stay away from that reefer until the offseason, he'll be alright :chuckle:.

Hawaii 5-0
03-27-2013, 07:28 PM
Hmmm...

I guess that Mathieu & Adams can hot-box, while Ta'amu drives.

:sofunny:

OX1947
03-27-2013, 07:40 PM
Ya, we all know what happen the last time the Steeler let a guy who loved the dank go. Probably cost us SB XLV. Just sayin. I would get him, need all the talented athletes who can play and are in the secondary you can get.

cbrunn
03-27-2013, 07:41 PM
I'm usally not a fan of guys his size ... but I would take him in the 2nd , if he's there in the 3rd it's a no brainer ...

He was THE BEST CB at the combine in drills ... do I care that he only benched 4 , no not at all because on tape the kid plays with so much toughness and aggressivness you would think he benched 35

Most importantly , HE MAKES PLAYS ... the NFL isn't designed now to SHUT ANY WR DOWN ... it is designed to get the ball back for your offense so they can score points ... and that's what this kid does , weather it being INT , blitzing , or stripping the ball ... HE MAKES PLAYS

not to mention a dynamic return man , and all around beast special teams player

so do I care about his bench , or maybe he can't cover the #1s ... no because who can?? ... but what I do know is that the kid MAKES PLAYS

shit I'll buy him a dime sack for every turnover he causes

Bayz101
03-27-2013, 07:52 PM
Hello, we drafted Mike Adams. Likely one of the biggest questions of last years draft. Do you honestly believe the Rooney's are riding on their high horses?

If the man can play, it's worth drafting him. If he fucks up, he knows he's gone. Free agent list.

6RINGS
03-27-2013, 08:25 PM
The Steelers seem to have gone back to the Dan Rooney way of doing things. I think you will see the Steelers go after high character players only. I also see the Steelers focusing on players who WANT to be in Pittsburgh. The money hungry stat seeking guys that we have brought in at times will cease. Looks like we are focusing on becoming a TEAM again.

ETL
03-27-2013, 09:45 PM
The Steelers seem to have gone back to the Dan Rooney way of doing things. I think you will see the Steelers go after high character players only. I also see the Steelers focusing on players who WANT to be in Pittsburgh. The money hungry stat seeking guys that we have brought in at times will cease. Looks like we are focusing on becoming a TEAM again.

Steelers looking at Ahmed Bradshaw - FA Running Back

2004: Kicked out of University of Virginia for underage drinking and resisting arrest
2006: Arrested at Marshall university for theft
2008: served jail time for violating a sealed juvenile charge

if we want a team of just saints - then I would might as well just root for the Saints. I don't have a problem with Mathieu and his baggage. its a risk - just like the risk of signing Bradshaw with his injury history.

I think the Steelers have a better system of players mentoring players and Mathieu may have a better chance of prospering here as opposed to another team.

PhantomJB93
03-27-2013, 10:09 PM
If this were 3 years ago I would have said there was no chance. But after we drafted Adams with his drug issues, and kept Ta'amu through his South Side rampage, and with the obvious NEED for a talent infusion on this team, I don't think it's out of the question for us to pick him. In fact, I hope we do, the kid reminded me of none other than Troy Polamalu with his knack for playmaking.

The fact that he was given a chance to redeem himself and then went out and failed another test is a bigger red flag than the fact that he was smoking weed in the first place, however. But I guess you could have said the same thing about Adams and how he KNEW he would get tested at the combine and couldnt stay away from the stuff.

6RINGS
03-27-2013, 10:30 PM
Steelers looking at Ahmed Bradshaw - FA Running Back

2004: Kicked out of University of Virginia for underage drinking and resisting arrest
2006: Arrested at Marshall university for theft
2008: served jail time for violating a sealed juvenile charge

if we want a team of just saints - then I would might as well just root for the Saints. I don't have a problem with Mathieu and his baggage. its a risk - just like the risk of signing Bradshaw with his injury history.

I think the Steelers have a better system of players mentoring players and Mathieu may have a better chance of prospering here as opposed to another team.


That was in college. I do not think the Steelers would have taken him then. He has proved himself as a pro. I just think we are getting back to the Steeler way of doing things.

kan_t
03-27-2013, 10:36 PM
People probably said the same thing about Adams before last year draft. Bottome line is that if Mathieu wants to be a Steeler, the Steelers will give him a chance to prove himself. It's all on his own.

ETL
03-27-2013, 10:52 PM
That was in college. I do not think the Steelers would have taken him then. He has proved himself as a pro. I just think we are getting back to the Steeler way of doing things.

Didn't Mathieu mess up in college?

teegre
03-27-2013, 11:05 PM
I think the Steelers have a better system of players mentoring players and Mathieu may have a better chance of prospering here as opposed to another team.

If they do what Jeff Fisher did with Janoris Jenkins (who was an absolute STEAL), then Mathieu can indeed be very successful.

Fisher got Jenkins a life coach, and an accountant, and made him check in EVERY night at 10:00. They changed that kid's life around... so, it can be done.

Rabbit
03-28-2013, 12:06 AM
He was THE BEST CB at the combine in drills

No, no, no. Not even remotely true. He looked more fluid than expected, but he wasn't by any means close to the best.

BengalDestroyer
03-31-2013, 07:37 AM
Someone will take him in the second, especially if the jets trade away revis

NSMaster56
03-31-2013, 11:06 AM
Intriguing thought, but doesn't Mathieu seem like the quintessential Bengal, Cowboy, or Raider?

FrancoLambert
03-31-2013, 12:33 PM
This draft is too crucial to gamble on players with character or work ethic issues.

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 01:14 PM
Mathieu was not the best CB at the combine. Did you guys not see Milliner at the combine? He performed better than what they thought he was going to, but that doesn't mean he performed better than any of the CBs who have more talent than him. He has great potential, but his character issues and flat out being a tool might even that out. I don't know if we'd take him based on that alone. That, and we don't even really need a CB.

Hawaii 5-0
03-31-2013, 02:32 PM
He was THE BEST CB at the combine in drills

yeah, those 4 bench presses he did were really impressive.

there is no way the Steelers take a chance on this guy, I'm willing to bet he's not even on their draft board.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2013, 02:44 PM
That, and we don't even really need a CB.
So if 33 year old Ike Taylor gets injured, the we rely on a starting tandem of William Gay and Cortez Allen, with Curtis Brown the nickle corner?? I would say we need a CB in the draft.

yeah, those 4 bench presses he did were really impressive.

there is no way the Steelers take a chance on this guy, I'm willing to bet he's not even on their draft board.

4...the same number of Twinkies he used to curb his munchies. I could see the Hippie Badger being taken as a 4th round gamble. :smoker:

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 02:54 PM
So if 33 year old Ike Taylor gets injured, the we rely on a starting tandem of William Gay and Cortez Allen, with Curtis Brown the nickle corner?? I would say we need a CB in the draft.

Ike Taylor had never been injured up until this year. Overreacting to an injury that might not happen in a draft where we have much, much more pressing needs is a mistake. I also have a feeling Van Dyke will beat out Brown for the Dime and, god forbid if someone gets injured, the Nickle. I can see your point, but we already have youth at CB. I have high hopes for DeMarcus and I think he has the potential to be the future at Corner.

I think if we go secondary in this draft, it has to be Safety. Unless someone like Milliner falls in the first or Xavier Rhodes is sitting there in the second, I don't think we go Corner in this draft. Let's wait and see what our younger guys can do with a full offseason program.

defence
03-31-2013, 04:42 PM
So if 33 year old Ike Taylor gets injured, the we rely on a starting tandem of William Gay and Cortez Allen, with Curtis Brown the nickle corner?? I would say we need a CB in the draft.



4...the same number of Twinkies he used to curb his munchies. I could see the Hippie Badger being taken as a 4th round gamble. :smoker:

You are absolutely right we need a corner. Too many gm's on this board. As i said before. Trade down and stock pile draft picks as i believe this team must rebuild through the draft cause we all see they are in a cap mess to sign any significant FA!!

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 04:55 PM
You are absolutely right we need a corner. Too many gm's on this board. As i said before. Trade down and stock pile draft picks as i believe this team must rebuild through the draft cause we all see they are in a cap mess to sign any significant FA!!

'Cause every year we always go after the big name free agent guys, right? We don't have to rebuild, we need Ben to stay healthy.

defence
03-31-2013, 05:20 PM
'Cause every year we always go after the big name free agent guys, right? We don't have to rebuild, we need Ben to stay healthy.

Let's just agree aye!! You are right. Steelers don't need a cb aye!! We're not rebuilding aye!! Ben will stay healthy next year and we will win the superbowl!! AYE!!:tt04:

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 05:30 PM
Let's just agree aye!! You are right. Steelers don't need a cb aye!! We're not rebuilding aye!! Ben will stay healthy next year and we will win the superbowl!! AYE!!:tt04:

You said we were rebuilding because we're in cap hell and couldn't go after free agents. When do we ever go after big name free agents? Those two things have nothing to do with each other.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2013, 07:42 PM
. I have high hopes for DeMarcus and I think he has the potential to be the future at Corner.

I. Based on what? His release from the Raiders, or the fact that Josh Victorian saw more reps than him in the secondary last year?

Let's just agree aye!! You are right. Steelers don't need a cb aye!! We're not rebuilding aye!! Ben will stay healthy next year and we will win the superbowl!! AYE!!:tt04:

I think you mean Eh. Unless you are going for an east coast Newfie Bye accent. :coffee:

PhantomJB93
03-31-2013, 08:43 PM
Based on what? His release from the Raiders, or the fact that Josh Victorian saw more reps than him in the secondary last year?



I think you mean Eh. Unless you are going for an east coast Newfie Bye accent. :coffee:

Yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't see any evidence whatsoever to support Van Dyke being anything more than a marginal special teams player other than his speed. Let alone "the future at corner."

FrancoLambert
03-31-2013, 08:50 PM
I'm still amazed that many project Van Dyke and Victorian as players you can count on.
As mentioned above, "based on what?"
Both sucked with the limited snaps they played last year.
I'd love to be an optimist but where's the evidence they'll be solid contributors in the secondary. :noidea:

harrison'samonster
03-31-2013, 09:00 PM
I'm still amazed that many project Van Dyke and Victorian as players you can count on.
As mentioned above, "based on what?"
Both sucked with the limited snaps they played last year.
I'd love to be an optimist but where's the evidence they'll be solid contributors in the secondary. :noidea:

i'm no big fan of either. But, Victorian did show improvement after the Cowboys game. Let's face it, Miles Austin was too much for him to cover snap after snap. In the Bengals game the next week he seemed to show improvement, he even had a hand in one of the interceptions.

Van Dyke's got the speed. I don't really see much in either, but maybe they can develop into reliable players.

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 09:06 PM
I'm still amazed that many project Van Dyke and Victorian as players you can count on.
As mentioned above, "based on what?"
Both sucked with the limited snaps they played last year.
I'd love to be an optimist but where's the evidence they'll be solid contributors in the secondary. :noidea:

Van Dyke didn't get snaps in the secondary last year, only on Special Teams. Victorian got torched at the end of the season, granted, but he's young too. We're being too hard on our younger guys.

I'm basing it off of his potential and ceiling and what he showed during his tenure with the 'Canes. You guys are judging him off of his special teams play. I don't think that's fair.

harrison'samonster
03-31-2013, 09:08 PM
Van Dyke didn't get snaps in the secondary last year, only on Special Teams. Victorian got torched at the end of the season, granted, but he's young too. We're being too hard on our younger guys.

I'm basing it off of his potential and ceiling and what he showed during his tenure with the 'Canes. You guys are judging him off of his special teams play. I don't think that's fair.

i was thinking Van Dyke never played on D, couldn't remember. Hard to judge a guy based only on Special teams, you're right.

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 09:24 PM
i was thinking Van Dyke never played on D, couldn't remember. Hard to judge a guy based only on Special teams, you're right.

I mean, I'm just trying to be positive about a kid we haven't really seen in action yet. That's all - let's all wait until he plays to make our judgements on him.

harrison'samonster
03-31-2013, 09:27 PM
I think you mean Eh.

that makes much more sense. Thanks for the translation

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2013, 09:30 PM
Yeah, I'm sorry, but I don't see any evidence whatsoever to support Van Dyke being anything more than a marginal special teams player other than his speed. Let alone "the future at corner."

Agreed, "the future at CB" based on what he did in the Big East?? :noidea:



I'm basing it off of his potential and ceiling and what he showed during his tenure with the 'Canes. You guys are judging him off of his special teams play. I don't think that's fair.

"you lose with potential, you win with performance" - Bill Parcells

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 09:46 PM
"you lose with potential, you win with performance" - Bill Parcells

Well, considering he hasn't had any defensive snaps yet we can't go by performance.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2013, 10:24 PM
Well, considering he hasn't had any defensive snaps yet we can't go by performance.

2 years in the NFL. Started 4 games for the Raiders in 2011, appeared in 14 for them and released after 1 season. He's the next Ike Taylor according to your Miami Hurricanes scouting report.

Can look up his 2 year stat line below. I guess the 3rd year is always their breakout year in the NFL....:rofl:

http://www.nfl.com/player/demarcusvandyke/2508114/profile

SteelersCanada
03-31-2013, 10:29 PM
2 years in the NFL. Started 4 games for the Raiders in 2011, appeared in 14 for them and released after 1 season. He's the next Ike Taylor according to your Miami Hurricanes scouting report.

Can look up his 2 year stat line below. I guess the 3rd year is always their breakout year in the NFL....:rofl:

http://www.nfl.com/player/demarcusvandyke/2508114/profile

Well, considering it took Keenan Lewis four years to have his break out year, I'd say its possible. Wouldn't you?

He played in a secondary with Michael Huff being the headlining player. In this secondary he'd be playing with Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark, Troy Polamalu and Cortez Allen. Ya know, something tells me that he'd be covered in taking a number two receiver. Or, for this year, he'd be limited to a Nickle role. Even if the older guys leave after next year, he would've had a full offseason with Carnell Lake and experience playing.

I'm not saying he's the next Revis, but he could be the future of our franchise opposite Allen with the right coaching. Carnell Lake could make something out of this kid. You can't coach speed, but you can coach technique and hip movement.

desertsteel
03-31-2013, 11:32 PM
I added one more achievment.

I'm guessing that you never smoked any weed while you were in college. You're a better man than most.

teegre
04-01-2013, 02:35 AM
I'm guessing that you never smoked any weed while you were in college. You're a better man than most.

Actually, no I did not. I do not embibe, either.

But, whether I did or not is inconsequential. The NCAA doesn't allow it, and the NFL doesn't allow it.

Hawaii 5-0
04-01-2013, 03:11 AM
Actually, no I did not. I do not embibe, either.

But, whether I did or not is inconsequential. The NCAA doesn't allow it, and the NFL doesn't allow it.

and it wouldn't cost you millions of dollars if you did either like it probably has for Tyrann Mathieu...

Rabbit
04-01-2013, 03:11 AM
Yeah, I didn't smoke weed in college either.

Regardless, when you're doing something that is strictly prohibited and you get busted doing it several times and get kicked off the program despite numerous chances, that shows a major lack of discipline and responsibility.

teegre
04-01-2013, 08:33 AM
and it wouldn't cost you millions of dollars if you did either like it probably has for Tyrann Mathieu...

Yep.

Rock star, journalist, disc jockey: smoke away.

Athlete (were it's tested for routinely): one simply can't partake.

Yeah, I didn't smoke weed in college either.

Regardless, when you're doing something that is strictly prohibited and you get busted doing it several times and get kicked off the program despite numerous chances, that shows a major lack of discipline and responsibility.

Exactly.

They told him that they were going to give him one more chance (after several warnings), and they told him that they were going to test him... and he still didn't stop. THAT is a concern.

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-01-2013, 10:25 AM
Well, considering it took Keenan Lewis four years to have his break out year, I'd say its possible. Wouldn't you?

He played in a secondary with Michael Huff being the headlining player. In this secondary he'd be playing with Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark, Troy Polamalu and Cortez Allen. Ya know, something tells me that he'd be covered in taking a number two receiver. Or, for this year, he'd be limited to a Nickle role. Even if the older guys leave after next year, he would've had a full offseason with Carnell Lake and experience playing.

I'm not saying he's the next Revis, but he could be the future of our franchise opposite Allen with the right coaching. Carnell Lake could make something out of this kid. You can't coach speed, but you can coach technique and hip movement.

Keenan Lewis looked as if he was taking the #2 job away from McFadden during the preseason of his 2nd year with the Steelers. He demonstrated his performance playing man for 3 seasons at Oregon St and looked like a great prospect.

DVD was a track guy that Al Davis drafted in the 3rd because of his 40 time at the Combine. Maybe he becomes a #3 CB for the Steelers, but hardly the "future at CB".

Pick Analysis: Al Davis can't resist a prospect with exceptional speed, and the selection of Van Dyke reflects his commitment to adding speed to his secondary. He was one of the swiftest defensive backs at the NFL Scouting Combine, and he has the potential to develop into a quality backup corner in time.

Van Dyke is a developmental sub-package defensive back prospect due to his track speed and height. Can do some good things in deep coverage and can recover but isn't sound in zone or underneath man coverage. Can make some plays on the ball but isn't going to rack up the interceptions. Is not physical when coming up to support the run. Isn't comfortable playing in a crowd but does break down well in space. Van Dyke was a dual-sport athlete at Miami (track) and has worked hard on the gridiron but only carries a mid-to-late round grade.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2011/profiles/demarcus-van%20dyke?id=2495244#tab=0

Hawaii 5-0
04-01-2013, 01:59 PM
They told him that they were going to give him one more chance (after several warnings), and they told him that they were going to test him... and he still didn't stop. THAT is a concern.

THAT is definitely a concern.

the word STUPID also comes to mind...

teegre
04-01-2013, 03:58 PM
THAT is definitely a concern.

the word STUPID also comes to mind...

The only thing that would be more stupid would be if he was drunk, and drove down the street, hitting car after car... and as police officers were yelling at him to stop, he then tried ot hit them.

Of course, something like that would never happen. What???... a nose tackle???... huh???

Hawaii 5-0
04-01-2013, 04:21 PM
The only thing that would be more stupid would be if he was drunk, and drove down the street, hitting car after car... and as police officers were yelling at him to stop, he then tried ot hit them.

Of course, something like that would never happen. What???... a nose tackle???... huh???

and because this actually did happen to a Steelers' draft pick it makes it that much more unlikely that we would take a similar risk on a guy like Mathieu who has all kinds of red flags in his history.

harrison'samonster
04-01-2013, 04:24 PM
and because this actually did happen to a Steelers' draft pick it makes it that much more unlikely that we would take a similar risk on a guy like Mathieu who has all kinds of red flags in his history.

Yeah, after the experience with Ta'amu and Rainey, the players they draft this year might be telling.

NSMaster56
04-01-2013, 06:55 PM
Go ahead and put me in the 'never smoked weed in college' camp.

That's what High School was for.

Hawaii 5-0
04-11-2013, 03:22 AM
2013 NFL Mock Draft Rounds 1-3: Tyrann Mathieu Lands With Pittsburgh Steelers?

Posted by Michael Gartman (Founder, Senior Writer)

With the 2013 NFL Draft just around the corner, it’s time to unveil team-by-team projections for the first three rounds before the three-day festivities kick into swing on April 25. Here’s part three of the series on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

First Round (No. 17 Overall): Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

With the top three pass rushers who can line up at 3-4 rush linebacker off the board (Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo and Ezekiel Ansah) and the next three (Jarvis Jones, Damontre Moore and Alex Okafor) not worth the reach, Pittsburgh opts to pick up the best available and replaces Mike Wallace in the process with the addition of Cordarrelle Patterson. Scouts have cooled on Patterson to a degree due to his limited major-college experience, but he’s a steal in the No. 17 spot.

Second Round (No. 48 Overall): Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn

The Steelers struggled to generate enough sacks (tied for 15th in the league) last year and just lost James Harrison, who tied for a team-high 6.0 sacks in 2012—which was also by far his lowest single-season sack total since 2006.

An agile and versatile long-limbed 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB by the name of Corey Lemonier offers the Steelers’ new-look defense some much-needed young talent and the run-stuffing and pass-rushing ability to help put the unit back on top.

Third Round (No. 79 Overall): Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU

The loss of Keenan Lewis was a pretty big blow to the Steelers’ secondary and the team was already projected by many to pursue an early-to-middle round safety before his departure as an eventual replacement for Troy Polamalu.

How far Tyrann Mathieu falls depends on how many teams will believe his off-the-field troubles are in the past. Though the LSU product comes with a major warning label, he’s well worth the risk in the middle of the third round.

The very fiesty and incredibly instinctual versatile defensive back is just as dangerous to receivers on defense as he is in the open field as a punt returner, as Mathieu finished fourth in the nation with 16.2 yards per punt return in 2011.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/2013_nfl_mock_draft_rounds_1_3_tyrann_mathieu_land s_with_pittsburgh_steelers/13366318

ebsteelers
04-11-2013, 09:56 AM
2013 NFL Mock Draft Rounds 1-3: Tyrann Mathieu Lands With Pittsburgh Steelers?

Posted by Michael Gartman (Founder, Senior Writer)

With the 2013 NFL Draft just around the corner, it’s time to unveil team-by-team projections for the first three rounds before the three-day festivities kick into swing on April 25. Here’s part three of the series on the Pittsburgh Steelers.

First Round (No. 17 Overall): Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

With the top three pass rushers who can line up at 3-4 rush linebacker off the board (Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo and Ezekiel Ansah) and the next three (Jarvis Jones, Damontre Moore and Alex Okafor) not worth the reach, Pittsburgh opts to pick up the best available and replaces Mike Wallace in the process with the addition of Cordarrelle Patterson. Scouts have cooled on Patterson to a degree due to his limited major-college experience, but he’s a steal in the No. 17 spot.

Second Round (No. 48 Overall): Corey Lemonier, DE/OLB, Auburn

The Steelers struggled to generate enough sacks (tied for 15th in the league) last year and just lost James Harrison, who tied for a team-high 6.0 sacks in 2012—which was also by far his lowest single-season sack total since 2006.

An agile and versatile long-limbed 4-3 DE/3-4 OLB by the name of Corey Lemonier offers the Steelers’ new-look defense some much-needed young talent and the run-stuffing and pass-rushing ability to help put the unit back on top.

Third Round (No. 79 Overall): Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU

The loss of Keenan Lewis was a pretty big blow to the Steelers’ secondary and the team was already projected by many to pursue an early-to-middle round safety before his departure as an eventual replacement for Troy Polamalu.

How far Tyrann Mathieu falls depends on how many teams will believe his off-the-field troubles are in the past. Though the LSU product comes with a major warning label, he’s well worth the risk in the middle of the third round.

The very fiesty and incredibly instinctual versatile defensive back is just as dangerous to receivers on defense as he is in the open field as a punt returner, as Mathieu finished fourth in the nation with 16.2 yards per punt return in 2011.

http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/2013_nfl_mock_draft_rounds_1_3_tyrann_mathieu_land s_with_pittsburgh_steelers/13366318

as long as he can manage to lay off the sticky grass it wouldnt be a bad pick.

that mock actually looks fairly decent does seem high though for lemonier though

OX1947
04-11-2013, 12:22 PM
as long as he can manage to lay off the sticky grass it wouldnt be a bad pick.

that mock actually looks fairly decent does seem high though for lemonier though

But what if the Steelers are playing in Seattle or Denver next year? Will he have to stay off the sticky icky then?

Hawaii 5-0
04-11-2013, 01:17 PM
But what if the Steelers are playing in Seattle or Denver next year? Will he have to stay off the sticky icky then?

here's Tyrann whenever his team plays in Seattle...:wink02:

http://www.usatodayeducate.com/staging/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/300-0113-allister.jpg

jacobo
04-11-2013, 01:33 PM
I'd love him in the third. He fits our system well, especially as a nickel.

STEELMANIAK
04-11-2013, 02:31 PM
I'd love him in the third. He fits our system well, especially as a nickel.

I honestly don't Honey Badger is going to make it past the 2nd round.

ebsteelers
04-11-2013, 03:08 PM
But what if the Steelers are playing in Seattle or Denver next year? Will he have to stay off the sticky icky then?

well that dont forget to pass that ish to the left!!!:rofl::rofl::rofl:

zcoop
04-11-2013, 03:44 PM
I honestly don't Honey Badger is going to make it past the 2nd round.

He won't.

Rabbit
04-11-2013, 03:53 PM
He will.

zcoop
04-11-2013, 04:07 PM
He will.

Lets wait and see then. :noidea:

Vis
04-12-2013, 11:29 AM
Report: Tyrann Mathieu says he failed more than 10 drug tests



So much about putting a value on Tyrann Mathieu's NFL draft stock involves getting a grip on his past. Two weeks before the NFL draft, the rehabbing former Louisiana State cornerback is in the midst of a 10-stop, cross-country tour with a few more face-to-face chances to sell the notion that he can be trusted after marijuana derailed his college career, Jarrett Bell of USA Today reports.

Six teams down, four to go. Mathieu will be in the desert Friday visiting the Arizona Cardinals. On Monday, he'll meet with the Cincinnati Bengals. Sit-downs with the Houston Texans and Seattle Seahawks follow.

On each visit, Mathieu is wearing a suit and tie, hoping to send a not-so-subtle message that he's all business.

"This is his job interview," agent Patrick Lawlor said. "It's just a matter of presenting himself as a professional."

And distancing himself from his turmoil. Mathieu, 20, once known for his nickname, Honey Badger, repeatedly has declared he's been clean since October, when he was arrested on possession of marijuana charges after being booted off the team.

During one visit, Mathieu was asked how many drug tests he failed before he was suspended in college.

According to an assistant coach for the team, Mathieu responded: "I quit counting at 10. I really don't know."

The coach, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to comment about the evaluation, doesn't dump all of the blame on Mathieu. He points a finger at LSU.

"If he flunked 10 tests before they suspended him, it shows that he got no kind of help," the coach said.

http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/34301/Report--Tyrann-Mathieu-says-he-failed-more-than-10-drug-tests/Default.aspx

SteelersCanada
04-12-2013, 11:38 AM
That report tells me that someone leaked that to ensure he falls down draft boards. Someone wants him.

teegre
04-12-2013, 11:42 AM
Someone wants him.

Yes... Big Worm.

Vis
04-12-2013, 01:56 PM
Pot is not performance enhancing and it should be legal. Seattle and Denver are his best bets.

Rabbit
04-12-2013, 04:14 PM
That report tells me that someone leaked that to ensure he falls down draft boards. Someone wants him.

But he DID fail drug tests at LSU... why would that be something someone makes up?

Pot is not performance enhancing and it should be legal. Seattle and Denver are his best bets.

Even if he went to Seattle or Denver, he still wouldn't be able to smoke pot. It's against the NFL's substance abuse policy, regardless of state law.

Steelers>NFL
04-12-2013, 04:30 PM
sounds like a junkie to me. makes Tone look like a saint!

OX1947
04-12-2013, 05:30 PM
sounds like a junkie to me. makes Tone look like a saint!

This is a junkie brah:

http://zwingliusredivivus.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/meth-face.jpg

harrison'samonster
04-12-2013, 06:18 PM
wow, the one on the right looks like Gollum

cbrunn
04-12-2013, 07:03 PM
Would be stupid to pass on him if he's there in the 3rd ...

Hawaii 5-0
04-12-2013, 07:56 PM
Would be stupid to pass on him if he's there in the 3rd ...

I highly doubt the Steelers will draft a guy who admitted to flunking over 10 drug tests.

ETL
04-13-2013, 04:29 PM
This guy won't last past the middle of round 2

Steeldude
04-13-2013, 07:36 PM
Not that it matters, but how did he bench 225 only 4 times in the combine?

steelerchad
04-13-2013, 08:25 PM
A lot of NFL talent guys think the 2nd is too high for this guy. He's got 3rd round written all over him.
Tim and Pat on NFL radio seem to think he could even last until the 4th.

ebsteelers
04-13-2013, 08:28 PM
Not that it matters, but how did he bench 225 only 4 times in the combine?

his mary jane went out, had to re light it after the 4th rep

harrison'samonster
04-13-2013, 08:30 PM
Not that it matters, but how did he bench 225 only 4 times in the combine?

that's a great question. Unless you're hurt, or a really small, fast, and great covering Corner, I don't see how any defensive player can justify benching 225 only 4 times.

austinfrench76
04-13-2013, 11:01 PM
I like the Honey Badgers game but can we afford another possible "issue"? I put that in quotes because no matter the issue it's drama. Probably not in our best interest unless he falls so far that it's a no-brainer. But who knows where that's at in the FO's minds.