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lamberts-lost-tooth
08-22-2006, 03:57 AM
Cowher not entirely happy with camp and he shows it

Pittsburgh Steelers coach Bill Cowher isn't worried about the Super Bowl champions' 0-2 preseason record. What he doesn't like is how they've gone about losing those two games.
Turnovers inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Missed blocks. Pass routes that weren't run correctly, and defenses that were improperly read. Too many penalties and missed third-down opportunities.

That's why Cowher was more animated than usual during practice Monday, once yelling loudly at his linemen during a 9-on-7 drill. The Steelers also practiced in pads, something they almost never do two days after a game.

With the Saint Vincent College training camp running only three more days, and the Sept. 7 season opener against Miami slightly more than two weeks away, Cowher wants his team regaining its championship mindset. Soon.


"We're not where we need to be," Cowher said. "We've been on the edge a little bit, with our pass protection the other night, and a guy here and a guy there in the running game. We've set too high a standard around here, and we're much better than we performed the other night. As I've always said, you can't turn this thing on and off, and we've got to take it up a notch."

One player Cowher won't fault for the uneven preseason to date is quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who threw a touchdown pass six plays into the Steelers' opening possession of a 17-10 loss to Minnesota on Saturday night. Roethlisberger was pulled after that, though the offensive line starters played most of the rest of the half.

"Ben's had an excellent camp ? he's been very good, very accurate, (good) with the decision making. I'm very pleased with where he's at," Cowher said.

To Cowher, the third exhibition game is always the most important because the starters play longer. The regulars figure to play most of the first half Friday night at Philadelphia, a switch from the earlier two games when Roethlisberger and most of the skill-position offensive starters played only one series each.

"It's a short week this week and, as I told the guys, we've got to continue to make progress and take faster steps," Cowher said. "The game the other day, we did some things well but not consistently. There were things we can learn from. There were some strides made, but we still have a way to go."

He didn't mean Cowher Way, either ? the alleyway near his family's house in suburban Crafton that was renamed for him in May. Two street signs designating the alley were stolen over the weekend, though one was recovered Monday.

"I don't think it was my brothers or parents (who took them)," Cowher said, smiling. "Hopefully, they'll get it replaced. When that's making headlines, I guess we're not playing that badly."

Notes: The Steelers have afternoon practices again Tuesday and Wednesday, the final two days that camp will be open to the public. They will hold only a walkthrough drill Thursday before breaking camp and heading to Philadelphia. Cowher said, "It (the season) is getting close, and our players have to understand the sense of urgency that's needed, start approaching these practices with the focus that's needed." ... C Chukky Okobi (neck) could play Aug. 31 against Carolina, or much earlier than was expected when he was hurt two weeks ago. Initially, Okobi was told the injury might be career-threatening.

nicesteel4life
08-22-2006, 08:22 AM
GO GET'UM COWHER.....
I totally agree with Cowher, the team needs to get back in form
It's not like it's a NEW team out there, Shake off the Rust and kick some Butt!!!

BlackNGold203
08-22-2006, 08:23 AM
This team will be ready Sept 7....

take it to the bank...

:cool: :cool:

83-Steelers-43
08-22-2006, 08:27 AM
This team will be ready Sept 7....

take it to the bank...

:cool: :cool:

I agree completely. I believe certain aspects of this team could look a little better at this point in time, but I'm not at all worried. Like I stated in the "backup D" thread, come September 7th the vanilla defensive schemes will be thrown out the window and the gloves will come off. We are not going to tip our hand during a couple of preseason games.

nicesteel4life
08-22-2006, 08:30 AM
I agree completely. I believe certain aspects of this team could look a little better at this point in time, but I'm not at all worried. Like I stated in the "backup D" thread, come September 7th the vanilla defensive schemes will be thrown out the window and the gloves will come off. We are not going to tip our hand during a couple of preseason games.
Totally agreeeeeeee!!!
Cant wait for September 7th
But I like the fact that Cowher is pushing, shows he still got the drive for 6

HometownGal
08-22-2006, 08:34 AM
I have no worries about this team when the season opens on September 7th. Cowher will have them ready, no doubt about it. It's great to see that Cowher continues to have that raging inferno within himself and hasn't missed a beat when demanding hard work and gut from his players. That's the Bill Cowher way and has always been the Pittsburgh Steelers way.

SIC' 'EM BILL! :bouncy:

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83-Steelers-43
08-22-2006, 08:36 AM
But I like the fact that Cowher is pushing, shows he still got the drive for 6

No doubt. I believe the majority of what Cowher has to say is a complete mental game towards the players. He could be content, but he very rarely shows it.

He might throw them a bone every once in a while (example: http://news.steelers.com/article/67509/ ).

But in order to keep them level headed and not complacent, I believe he tends to downplay their accomplishments to a degree. Just my opinion/theory.

floodcitygirl
08-22-2006, 08:38 AM
I'm chosing to believe all of you that these guys WILL be ready for that game. I'm continuing with my "it's only preseason" mantra. I know that you are right. To think anything else would make for an excruciatingly long season with all of these Bengal fans....and I refuse to do it. (lol)

stlrtruck
08-22-2006, 08:53 AM
If they aren't careful, Cowher's going to be throwing that Chin around a lot more and way before the first game.

These guys do look rusty but I know it's only pre-season. I'll lay the real judgement for the last pre-season game. If they look as bad then as they have these last two games, then I'll unleash the hounds!

tony hipchest
08-22-2006, 12:02 PM
No doubt. I believe the majority of what Cowher has to say is a complete mental game towards the players. He could be content, but he very rarely shows it.

He might throw them a bone every once in a while (example: http://news.steelers.com/article/67509/ ).

But in order to keep them level headed and not complacent, I believe he tends to downplay their accomplishments to a degree. Just my opinion/theory.i think your opinion/theory is dead on. i could be wrong but i always though cowher was a psychology major in college. he seems like the coach who will rip someone infront of all the teamates and voice his displeasure and then pull that player aside a little later and give them a little one on one to instruct them how to correct their mistakes in a more "friendly" manner.

just like in the superbowl dvd when hes talking and joknig with duce and jerome on the sidelines. they were like "were killing them" and cowher was like "no, we keep screwing it up". duce and jerome just laughed. "ok :rolleyes: "

BlackNGold203
08-22-2006, 12:19 PM
one of the key components of managing personnel is knowing your people...and knowing their "buttons"....

All people are individuals and need motivated slightly (or not so slightly) differently. this is a basic tenant of management, one that a majority of managers just dont get.

Cowher gets it.

Some players need kicked hard...some players need stroked....Cowher manages them as individuals and also employs group motivational techniques...

When he retires...he should seriously write a book...

:cool: :cool:

ptgnzlz7
08-22-2006, 12:32 PM
Does anybody remember how they played last pre-season. The '05 Training Camp Roethlisberger looked like he had been in a motorcycle wreck and some turd blossom by the name of Ward held out leaving an offense so bad we were begging him to come back.

I guess things turned out OK.:cool:

clevestinks
08-22-2006, 02:57 PM
Cowher needs something to keep the players focus, this works for me!

Livinginthe past
08-23-2006, 01:04 AM
I obviously haven't seen any of the Steelers pre-season games but from reading some of the posts I get the feeling that the Steelers have failed to execute even the vanilla playcalling correctly.

Sure, I understand that being beaten by the Cards or whoever in the pre-season is not an indicator that that it would play out the same in a real game, but surely pre-season is there for a reason.

Shouldn't the 2nd/3rd string be trying to impress a little more or are they just not capable?

NM

tony hipchest
08-23-2006, 08:53 AM
there for a reason.

Shouldn't the 2nd/3rd string be trying to impress a little more or are they just not capable?

NMyou are right on both counts. they lack the proper coaching or motivation to even try and pittsburghs 2nd and 3rd stringers historically always just suck. :rolleyes:

Livinginthe past
08-23-2006, 09:28 AM
you are right on both counts. they lack the proper coaching or motivation to even try and pittsburghs 2nd and 3rd stringers historically always just suck. :rolleyes:

Ho hum Tony H getting defensive as usual.

Im not saying these players suck, im just saying that they haven't shown anything in pre-season.

It all very well going 0-5 in the pre-season, like the Colts, but there should be multiple positives to be taken from each performance.

Going on what Steelers posters have been saying I would say that the negatives far outweigh the positives so far.

NM

HometownGal
08-23-2006, 09:37 AM
Going on what Steelers posters have been saying I would say that the negatives far outweigh the positives so far.

NM

Well, the way I see it - Ben is back and better than ever, Reid has played well in both the WR slot and as a return man, Santonio, for the most part, is learning the offense and coming along just fine, Anthony Smith has far surpassed any of our expectations (imo), we have two above-average punters, but I think experience will win out in the end. Those are some very key positives. The first team D needs to step it up a bit but I have no doubt LeBeau will have them ready for the Fins game. The OL has been average at best, but look for them to get it together and be one of the best in the NFL this season. You heard it here first. :smile:

Enough positives? :blurp:

The negatives after ONLY 2 pre-season games? We lost 2 close contests with our scrubs playing the majority of both of those games. Not an excuse, mind you - fact.

tony hipchest
08-23-2006, 09:38 AM
ho hum. another litp post. lets play name that tone!

Livinginthe past
08-23-2006, 10:05 AM
Well, the way I see it - Ben is back and better than ever, Reid has played well in both the WR slot and as a return man, Santonio, for the most part, is learning the offense and coming along just fine, Anthony Smith has far surpassed any of our expectations (imo), we have two above-average punters, but I think experience will win out in the end. Those are some very key positives. The first team D needs to step it up a bit but I have no doubt LeBeau will have them ready for the Fins game. The OL has been average at best, but look for them to get it together and be one of the best in the NFL this season. You heard it here first. :smile:

Enough positives? :blurp:

The negatives after ONLY 2 pre-season games? We lost 2 close contests with our scrubs playing the majority of both of those games. Not an excuse, mind you - fact.

So Santonio is coming along just fine?

Thats news to me, it seemed that he has dropped below Willie Reid in most peoples expectations.

Dont get me wrong, I have no doubts about your 1st string team - especially the D.

There do appear to be a few question marks, but mostly ones that were left over from last years regular season - ie the inability to get off the field on 3rd down.

It was mostly just an observation based upon the new guys and the back-ups.

NM

tony hipchest
08-23-2006, 11:14 AM
Thats news to me, it seemed that he has dropped below Willie Reid in most peoples expectations.



NMwho are these people you speak of? are you in contact with the coaching staff and most steelerfans? tsk tsk.

santonio holmes is the #4 wr and w. reid is #5. and just like hines ward did in the past they will be given the opportunities to prove themselves and work their way up the ladder. dont let "most people" fool you.

Midnightwriter07
08-23-2006, 01:50 PM
I havnt heard anything about Homes being below REID.. sure you dont mean Washington ? As far as i know or knew was WARD, WILSON, WASHINGTON, HOLMES< REID, MORGAN/ MOREY

83-Steelers-43
08-23-2006, 01:55 PM
I've heard from a couple of sports writers in this city that they are more amazed by the way Reid has played compared to Holmes. At the same time, that's not saying Holmes has looked horrible; I took it as Reid looks that good. That's not a bad thing.

I'm confident Holmes will blossom just fine.

Midnightwriter07
08-23-2006, 02:00 PM
I would like to see Holmes and Reid both in when Ben is playing and see how they do rather than catching passes from Boyd and Jacobs. I am excited to see how Ben deals with all this new speed in a game. will be fun to watch.. but, we really need to work on running game it appears.. this game Friday will be nice cause this will be most they are gonna play

Midnightwriter07
08-23-2006, 02:03 PM
( play the starters for a whole half i mean )

Haiku_Dirtt
08-23-2006, 04:27 PM
It's a great time for a prime time game. Time to lose some of the sloppyness.