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Steelstoned1972
03-30-2013, 09:57 AM
I'm debating this in my head. Still working on who I'd want .

Vis
03-30-2013, 10:09 AM
Vaccaro. Later rounds are too hard to predict. I assume a RB in the 3rd or 4th if we don't sign somebody before the draft.

Steelstoned1972
03-30-2013, 10:14 AM
Depending on the faith the front office has in it's two young tackles, I believe Tackles have been at a premium. Which brings me to Melenik Watson. Freak of nature athletically , great kid, limited experience but based on that limited experience he started after a few practices at FSU. Great article on Yahoo . 2ND.Elan, Philip Thomas , or Thomas Cyprien. 3Rd definitely Leveon "the beast" Bell. 4the Bailey or Hopkins if avail.

desertsteel
03-30-2013, 10:14 AM
Tavon Austin

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
03-30-2013, 10:15 AM
Vaccaro or Patterson

Fire Haley
03-30-2013, 10:26 AM
Fuck Football


Go Pens!

OX1947
03-30-2013, 10:36 AM
Trade down, stock pile picks.

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-30-2013, 11:00 AM
Vacarro and Lemonier in first 2 rounds.

desertsteel
03-30-2013, 11:06 AM
Vaccaro or Patterson

I almost said Patterson but guys with ONE year of experience (played JC) worry me.

SH-Rock
03-30-2013, 11:15 AM
Jarvis Jones if he slides.

Bane
03-30-2013, 11:28 AM
Kenny Vaccaro/Cordarrelle Patterson in the first.
Robert Woods/Matt Elam in the second.
Brian Schwenke in the third.
A running back in the fourth. Especially if we don't get Ahmad Bradshaw.

SteelersCanada
03-30-2013, 01:20 PM
Mingo
Elam
Bell
Williams

Stairway to 7
03-30-2013, 02:33 PM
A pass rusher, for god's sake gimme a pass rusher. I think it's highly likely that's exactly what they will do with Harrison gone, and Worilds is not the answer.

Wallace17
03-30-2013, 02:47 PM
Ziggy Ansah if he is still there hopefully he catches a DWI before the draft!

Burlybulldog
03-30-2013, 02:53 PM
Would love Jarvis Jones!

Rabbit
03-30-2013, 03:04 PM
Kenny Vaccaro/Cordarrelle Patterson in the first.
Robert Woods/Matt Elam in the second.
Brian Schwenke in the third.
A running back in the fourth. Especially if we don't get Ahmad Bradshaw.

I wouldn't expect to see Elam in the second, and I'm not sure why we'd need Schwenke?

SteelersCanada
03-30-2013, 03:09 PM
I wouldn't expect to see Elam in the second, and I'm not sure why we'd need Schwenke?

Depth? I doubt he'd be the best player available, even in the fourth round. I saw that and was a little confused too. Probably for depth purposes.

Rabbit
03-30-2013, 03:16 PM
Yeah, Schwenke is pretty much limited to center in a zone blocking scheme at his size, though I like him as a prospect. I think if we wanted to address depth on the o-line, someone like David Quessenberry, JC Tretter, or David Bahktiari in the fourth would make more sense, as they can all play multiple positions along the o-line

WokeUpWithaWoodley
03-30-2013, 03:25 PM
Vacarro/Patterson

Woods/Minter/Amerson

Bell/Ellington/P.Thomas/Alford/Logan Ryan

Hodges/Moore/S.thomas/aj klein

Hawaii 5-0
03-30-2013, 03:28 PM
Vacarro/Patterson

Woods/Minter/Amerson

Bell/Ellington/P.Thomas/Alford

Hodges/Moore/S.thomas

love it...:thumbsup:

teegre
03-30-2013, 06:53 PM
BPA

R1: Jordan, Jones, Vaccaro, Austin, Elam, Eifert, Warmack, Cooper, Trufant...

R2: Elam, Okafor, Lemonier, Ertz, P.Thomas, Woods, Swearinger, B.Jones, Warford...

R3: Bell, Escobar, Franklin, Swope, S.Thomas, Rambo, Bailey...

R4: Lattimore, McFadden, Davis, McDonald, Williams, Dobson...

SteelersCanada
03-30-2013, 07:41 PM
I'm not a believer in taking a Tight End in the first or, really, second round this year. None of these guys pop out to me. If someone like Escobar is there in the fourth then sign me up but I think we have more pressing and immediate needs than Tight End right now. I think that signing Spaeth was the Steelers' way of grabbing a stop-gap kind of player until Heath comes back.

I think it's gotta be a Safety or OLB in the first. Then, whichever one we didn't just pick gets picked in the second round.

Steel_Bus_24
03-30-2013, 08:04 PM
I'm not a believer in taking a Tight End in the first or, really, second round this year. None of these guys pop out to me. If someone like Escobar is there in the fourth then sign me up but I think we have more pressing and immediate needs than Tight End right now. I think that signing Spaeth was the Steelers' way of grabbing a stop-gap kind of player until Heath comes back.

I think it's gotta be a Safety or OLB in the first. Then, whichever one we didn't just pick gets picked in the second round.


Do people really see some great rock solid OLB in the 1st thats going to come in and blow away Worlids in Camp?????


I just don't see it this year......Ansah(Doubt he gets out of the Top 10anyways) is the only one with the potential in my eyes....but any other OLB in the 1st looks like a reach IMO for us at 17...

Bane
03-30-2013, 09:26 PM
I wouldn't expect to see Elam in the second, and I'm not sure why we'd need Schwenke?

Just proving why I don't have a job in an NFL front office. :chuckle:

Truthfully, I know more from reading up on analyst's takes on players, watching the combine, reading mock drafts, etc. I really don't watch much NCAA. However, reading up on Schwenke, he's apparently a viable Center or Guard, and we do need a LG. At the very worst, he'd be a good Legursky-esque player, perhaps better.

What about Justin Hunter? I like the dude's size, and I was reading earlier that he's been compared to Julio Jones and was simply overshadowed by Cordarrelle Patterson, despite Patterson only being slightly better. I've wanted the Steelers to get a tall WR (that was good) since Plaxico, especially after Limas Sweed bombed so hard. Hunter could be that guy.

SteelersCanada
03-30-2013, 09:43 PM
Do people really see some great rock solid OLB in the 1st thats going to come in and blow away Worlids in Camp?????


I just don't see it this year......Ansah(Doubt he gets out of the Top 10anyways) is the only one with the potential in my eyes....but any other OLB in the 1st looks like a reach IMO for us at 17...

I do. Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo and Jarvis Jones all have the potential to start immediately opposite Woodley. While I'd like Ansah, I don't see him being available at 17. I personally don't consider guys like Jordan and Mingo reaches, but I can definitely see the argument as to why they would be. I think guys like Mingo, Moore and Jones are the ultimate 'boom or bust' picks in their own right. Medical, physical and production concerns are valid for these guys, but I'd like any of the 7 guys mentioned above to start over Worilds, honestly. I'm rooting for Jason, but I think these guys all have a higher ceiling.

I just don't know any other direction (other than Safety) we could go in the first round. Depth at WR would make Patterson a reach.

Just my opinion.

Steel_Bus_24
03-30-2013, 10:13 PM
I do. Dion Jordan, Barkevious Mingo and Jarvis Jones all have the potential to start immediately opposite Woodley. While I'd like Ansah, I don't see him being available at 17. I personally don't consider guys like Jordan and Mingo reaches, but I can definitely see the argument as to why they would be. I think guys like Mingo, Moore and Jones are the ultimate 'boom or bust' picks in their own right. Medical, physical and production concerns are valid for these guys, but I'd like any of the 7 guys mentioned above to start over Worilds, honestly. I'm rooting for Jason, but I think these guys all have a higher ceiling.

I just don't know any other direction (other than Safety) we could go in the first round. Depth at WR would make Patterson a reach.

Just my opinion.

All those guys have major ??? for me as to how they would stack up, in the run game

Mingo and Jones have work ethic Red Flags....don't want to tempt Woodley

Dion Jordan....maybe....but he is another I doubt would be there....if we were a proficient 4-3 team....Id feel much much better about him

This Draft is a tough one to read....hope the Steelers are burning their midnight oils....we need a very productive class

BengalDestroyer
03-31-2013, 07:33 AM
If Vaccaro and Jones are both gone, which they probably will be, trade down for an extra 2 and 3

pete74
03-31-2013, 08:04 AM
Round 1 Patterson, Arthur Brown or Bjoern Werner
Round 2 Brandon Williams, Robert Woods or Shawn Williams
Round 3 John Jenkins or Giovani Bernard

BLACK_AND_YELLOW
03-31-2013, 08:11 AM
I almost said Patterson but guys with ONE year of experience (played JC) worry me.

True but just look at what he did in that 1 year....Patterson has the potential to be a top 5 receiver in the NFL, But at the end of the day all needs is the ball in his hands he makes plays kinda like Tavon Austin but bigger

SteelerJay
03-31-2013, 09:51 AM
Weegie Thompson
Mark Stock
Lupe Sanchez
Keith Gary

Hawaii 5-0
03-31-2013, 02:20 PM
Weegie Thompson
Mark Stock
Lupe Sanchez
Keith Gary

Alonzo Jackson
Jamain Stephens
Huey Richardson
Scott Shields

El-Gonzo Jackson
03-31-2013, 02:48 PM
Alonzo Jackson
Jamain Stephens
Huey Richardson
Scott Shields

No love for Troy Edwards or Jeremy Staat?

Hawaii 5-0
03-31-2013, 06:33 PM
SteelBlitz 2013 Pittsburgh Steelers Mock Draft Version 7.0

Updated 3-31-2013

2013 Steelers Mock Draft:

Round 1.) Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia

Jarvis Jones started his NFL career with USC, but he suffered a neck injury and was diagnosed with spinal stenosis. USC wouldn’t clear him to return to football so he transfered to Georgia and was cleared to play. He played two seasons with the Georgia Bulldogs and totaled 44 tackles for loss, 28 sacks, and nine forced fumbles. Jones is not a workout warrior and chose not to participate at the combine, but will workout at the Georgia pro-day. His neck is rumored to be scaring off some NFL teams, but he has been cleared by multiple doctors and claims to be ready to go. Early mock drafts had Jones as a top five pick so if he falls to seventeen and the Steelers aren’t concerned with his neck they will be happy to have him fall into their laps. Jones is a very good pass rusher, but needs to work on his coverage skills. His first year he would likely be used like Aldon Smith was his rookie season as a situational pass rusher.

Reasoning: James Harrison was released as part of a salary cap purge. That leaves the Steelers in need of another top-tier pass rusher. Jones was once considered the top outside linebacker in the draft so if he falls to the Steelers at seventeen it would be hard to seem them pass on selecting him unless they are concerned with his neck.

NFL Player Comparison: Bruce Irvin

Combine Results: Did not participate


Round 2.) Eric Reid, S, LSU

Reid is a hard hitting safety and a good tackler. He is strong in the run game and the pass game and has the ability to separate the ball from the receiver. Reid is also an experienced player playing in 39 games at LSU during his career as part of the very competitive SEC. One of the positives with Reid is that he will be ready to step in right away so he can be a back-up his rookie season and start in his second year. Negatives for Reid are his ability to get beat deep; he struggles to turn and run with receivers and will need to improve in that area as he develops.

Reasoning: The Steelers need to find replacements for the aging Troy Polamalu and Ryan Clark. If Reid slips to this spot the Steelers will be forced to grab him. Clark also went to LSU and has praised Reid’s play on the field so a mentorship wouldn’t be a problem. In 2013 Reid can play as a back-up and mold into a starter in 2014.

NFL Player Comparison: Mark Barron

Combine Results:
40 YD Dash – 4.53 sec
Bench Press – 17 reps
Vert Jump – 40.5 inch
Broad Jump – 134 inch


Round 3.) Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia

Bailey is getting lost in the fold a bit due to being overshadowed by fellow receiver Tavon Austin. However, Bailey was more productive than Austin last season in the passing game, but he lacks the explosiveness in the run game and return game that make Austin a big time threat. Bailey also has better size than Austin despite being only 5’10″ and 195 pounds. He is a possession receiver that has decent speed and catches a ton of balls. He has a knack for finding holes in the defense and picking up first downs.

Reasoning: The Steelers need to find another receiver in this draft after losing Mike Wallace to free agency. Bailey could turn into a Hines Ward type player. He won’t blow anyone away with his explosiveness and athleticism, but he is a very good receiver who has a knack for getting first downs and finding ways to get open. In Todd Haley’s offense possession receivers are more important than deep threats and Bailey fits the bill.

NFL Player Comparison: Greg Jennings

Combine Results:
40 YD Dash – 4.52 sec
Bench Press – 11 reps
Vert Jump – 34.5 inch
Broad Jump – 117 inch


Round 4.) Marcus Lattimore, RB, South Carolina

Lattimore may have been a top ten pick had he not re-injured his knee during the 2012 season. Instead he will fall into the fourth or fifth round of the draft and could be a huge steal for any team willing to take a chance on him. Lattimore is a power back that hits the hole quick and hard. He easily breaks arm tackles and can be hard to bring down. His knee injury may set him back, but according to his doctors he is well ahead of schedule on his recovery and is hoping to be ready for week 1 of the 2013 NFL season.

Reasoning: Lattimore has all of the skills to be a top running back in the NFL and could be the feature back the Steelers are looking for. Also, with the Steelers other needs in this draft a later round option like Lattimore could be the steal of the draft and allow Pittsburgh to use their first four picks on other areas of concern.

NFL Player Comparison: Arian Foster

Combine Results: Did not participate

Round 5.) Michael Mauti, ILB, Penn State

Mauti did not practice or play at the senior bowl due to a knee injury, but his draft stock is rising after he sent a hand-written letter to all 32 NFL teams during that week. Mauti is a great leader and projects as a mid-round pick. He is expected to be a middle linebacker in the NFL although he played on the outside as well at Penn State. Mauti does a good job of getting off of tackles and is also a solid player on special teams.

Reasoning: He would give the Steelers another young option for the future alongside Lawrence Timmons. The Steelers spent their third round pick in 2012 on Sean Spence, but there are still rumors that they will be looking for a middle linebacker in this draft. Mauti and Spence would give the Steelers two young players to fight for the spot next to Timmons in 2013 or 2014.

NFL Player Comparison: Barrett Ruud

Combine Results: Did not participate


Round 6a.) Earl Wolff, S, N.C. State

Wolff has the speed to keep with receivers down field as well as speed to play sideline to sideline. Like Troy Polamalu he has the speed to move from near the line of scrimmage to a deep zone coverage after the snap. He also displays very good footwork and solid technique in coverage. Wolff is a solid defender against the run and pass and makes big hits coming downhill from the secondary. At times running backs will break his tackles if he leaves his feet and he struggles to get off of blocks near the line of scrimmage.

Reasoning: Like Reid in the second round the Steelers need to find two future starters at safety. Reid is more of a strong safety in the mold of Polamalu and Wolff has the coverage skills to replace Ryan Clark. If the Steelers are concerned about finding replacements for their safeties they may be willing to draft two safeties in the hopes that at least one is ready to start in 2014.

NFL Player Comparison: Yeremiah Bell
Combine Results:
40 YD Dash – 4.44 sec
Bench Press – N/A
Vert Jump – 39 inch
Broad Jump – 104 inch


Round 6b.) David Bakhtiari, OG, Colorado

Bakhtiari played left tackle for the Colorado Buffalos, but he is expected to move inside to guard in the NFL. He has the size and athleticism to fit a zone blocking scheme which fits with new Steelers offensive line coach Jack Bicknell Jr. He is an aggressive blocker that seeks out contact especially at the second level rather than letting it come to him. Right now Bakhtiari is a bit of a project and will have to continue to develop if he wants to last in the NFL, but he is a good low risk high reward player.

Reasoning: The Steelers need to add depth to their offensive line with the loss of Max Starks and potentially Doug Legursky this off-season. Bakhtiari could fill a reserve roll and his experience at tackle makes him versatile which is something the Steelers look for in their back-up offensive lineman.

NFL Player Comparison: Will Rackley

Combine Results:
40 YD Dash – 5.09 sec
Bench Press – 28 reps
Vert Jump – 25.5 inch
Broad Jump – 101 inch


Round 7.) Jasper Collins, WR, Mount Union

Collins is the latest sensation out of Mount Union. Mount Union has produced two good wide receivers in recent years in Pierre Garcon and Cecil Shorts and Collins looks to be next in line. Collins dominated Division III with over 1600 yards and 22 touchdowns this past season. He is the prototypical slot receiver and would help add some depth to the receiving core. When it comes to the seventh round it’s time for teams to take chances and Collins may just turn into a solid wide receiver in the NFL. Collins is a smaller receiver like Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders at 5’10″ and 185 pounds, but Brown has been very successful and there’s no reason to believe Collins can’t be as well.

Reasoning: The Steelers are very thin at wide receiver and they may have to cut Jerrico Cotchery to save some more cap space. If that happens they will have to add at least two receivers to the roster and the most logical option is to add them in the draft. Collins is also the perfect low risk, high reward player to take in the seventh round. He dominated Division III football and may have the skills to succeed in the NFL.

NFL Player Comparison: Pierre Garcon

Combine Results: Did not participate

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