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Rabbit
04-03-2013, 12:01 PM
https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/statuses/319445709269135360

https://twitter.com/EdBouchette/statuses/319434327551266817

steeltheone
04-03-2013, 01:18 PM
Love to see LSH here!

Rabbit
04-03-2013, 01:20 PM
If we signed him, that would give us a running back collection of:

- Dwyer
- Redman
- Batch
- LSH
- at least one running back we add through the draft

Fire Arians
04-03-2013, 01:43 PM
Love to see LSH here!

last name sounds familiar, is he the one that broke a long ass run against us vs the cardinals?

Blacksburg Zach
04-03-2013, 01:51 PM
last name sounds familiar, is he the one that broke a long ass run against us vs the cardinals?

If you're talking about the Steelers vs. Cardinals game in 2011, then yes, I believe Stephens-Howling is the one.

Fire Arians
04-03-2013, 01:58 PM
If you're talking about the Steelers vs. Cardinals game in 2011, then yes, I believe Stephens-Howling is the one.

ah ok, yeah that's the guy. seems like he'd be good material for a 3rd down back, and can also handle kickoff return duties if need be. we haven't had a 3rd down back since losing mewelde moore so this could be a good pickup. though i'm rooting for baron batch to still be that guy.

sloppyjoe
04-03-2013, 02:10 PM
the guy couldnt seperate himself from the other crappy rbs in arizona last year.

teegre
04-03-2013, 02:14 PM
the guy couldnt seperate himself from the other crappy rbs in arizona last year.

Aside from AP and Earl Campbell, no RB would have done well behind that putrid O-line in Arizona.

steelfury02
04-03-2013, 02:20 PM
nothing excites me at RB anymore, although a new name could be better than just the same

the Steelers RB corp is becoming a jack of all trades and master of none - no one is THE guy to step up

ebsteelers
04-03-2013, 02:35 PM
wonder if he'd come cheaper since he went to u of pitt?

if we do sign him bradshaw would be out,

BlaZeQuietly
04-03-2013, 03:18 PM
I have never heard of the guy, from what I can tell he's nothing special. What kind of back is he? Can he take 75% of the touches in most any situation. The last thing we need is to sign another mediocre running back, we might as well just keep Dwyer/Redman and Batch, why sign a 4th guy who can't carry the work load? I think I'd take an injury prone Bradshaw over this guy. Why even bother signing more mediocre talent at the running position? We either need to sign the only good FA RB left (bradshaw) or take a feature back in the draft, time to quit *****footin around at the running back position pittsburgh! seriously.

Fire Arians
04-03-2013, 03:42 PM
he's not an every down back, he'd be a 3rd down back. have we had a decent 3rd down back since mewelde moore left? no. i'd say let him show what he has, and if he's better than baron batch, sign him.

he won't be battling dwyer/redman/draft pick for the starting job, he will be up against batch as the 3rd down guy.

BlaZeQuietly
04-03-2013, 04:59 PM
What exactly defines a "3rd down back" I've heard the term before I guess I just don't understand what makes a 3rd down back special? I would assume you can rely on them to get a first down on third and short situations. As to where an "every down back" could get decent yardage in all situations. I guess what I'm getting at, is if I have my definitions correct why would we need a 3rd down back if we could just get a good every down back that can carry the ball effectively whenever you give him the ball? Like say we Sign Bradshaw, and he ends up working out great and not getting injured. Okay so its 3rd and 3 at the opponent's 35 yard line and we are going to run a running play, would we give the ball to bradshaw because he kicks ass or would we give the ball to our 3rd down back just because he can theoretically consistently get 1st downs in third and short situations?

Steeldude
04-03-2013, 05:06 PM
Howling is very small RB. I don't see where he would fit on.

harrison'samonster
04-03-2013, 05:07 PM
What exactly defines a "3rd down back" I've heard the term before I guess I just don't understand what makes a 3rd down back special? I would assume you can rely on them to get a first down on third and short situations. As to where an "every down back" could get decent yardage in all situations. I guess what I'm getting at, is if I have my definitions correct why would we need a 3rd down back if we could just get a good every down back that can carry the ball effectively whenever you give him the ball? Like say we Sign Bradshaw, and he ends up working out great and not getting injured. Okay so its 3rd and 3 at the opponent's 35 yard line and we are going to run a running play, would we give the ball to bradshaw because he kicks ass or would we give the ball to our 3rd down back just because he can theoretically consistently get 1st downs in third and short situations?

I've always seen a third down back as one who can block the pass-rush. Then you've got a short-yardage back. It's all about getting the right guy on the field in the right situation.

fer522
04-03-2013, 05:16 PM
Don't wory guys, we can't sign anybody!!!

steeltheone
04-03-2013, 05:32 PM
I have never heard of the guy, from what I can tell he's nothing special. What kind of back is he? Can he take 75% of the touches in most any situation. The last thing we need is to sign another mediocre running back, we might as well just keep Dwyer/Redman and Batch, why sign a 4th guy who can't carry the work load? I think I'd take an injury prone Bradshaw over this guy. Why even bother signing more mediocre talent at the running position? We either need to sign the only good FA RB left (bradshaw) or take a feature back in the draft, time to quit *****footin around at the running back position pittsburgh! seriously.

He was the starter at Pitt ( Runningback factory ) before being replaced by a guy named Shady.

Explosive and very underrated.

Fire Arians
04-03-2013, 06:46 PM
I've always seen a third down back as one who can block the pass-rush. Then you've got a short-yardage back. It's all about getting the right guy on the field in the right situation.

basically this, and usually someone who's also got a speed advantage over linebackers and can win those 1on1 matchups in the open field to move the chains on 3rd and not short. guys like mewelde moore and kevin faulk made a career out of it

harrison'samonster
04-03-2013, 06:50 PM
basically this, and usually someone who's also got a speed advantage over linebackers and can win those 1on1 matchups in the open field to move the chains on 3rd and not short. guys like mewelde moore and kevin faulk made a career out of it

we really do miss Moore. He got the job done and he was reliable.

pczach
04-03-2013, 07:01 PM
we really do miss Moore. He got the job done and he was reliable.

Sometimes, it's not the flashy player that is missed. It's the guy that did everything that was asked of him and did it well. Moore could protect the QB, had great hands, and could actually carry the load for a game or two as the lead guy if needed. He was a very valuable player for us.

steel-EERS
04-03-2013, 07:24 PM
don't really care for howling, but gooden if healthy wouldn't be a bad back up for MLB, had we not already signed Stevenson sylvester

Hawaii 5-0
04-04-2013, 05:02 PM
Stephens-Howling visiting the Steelers today

Posted by Darin Gantt on April 3, 2013

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/350x-191.jpg?w=250

The Steelers are hosting some free agents today, but not the kind that will make the fanbase sit up and take notice. Or even wake up, really.

According to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the team is hosting Arizona running back La’Rod Stephens-Howling, along with 49ers linebacker Tavares Gooden and Texans guard Antoine Caldwell.

Of the lot of them, Stephens-Howling is the most interesting, since he’s unlike the rest of the backs on the Steelers roster at the moment. He’s more of a third down back/returner, and would fill the role they envisioned for the released Chris Rainey.

The Pitt product has been a solid special teamer and part-time player for the Cardinals.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/page/6/

El-Gonzo Jackson
04-04-2013, 05:22 PM
Hawaii........where is the info on my guy Jonathan Franklin from UCLA coming in for a visit?? I like that kid a lot in the draft at RB.

Hawaii 5-0
04-04-2013, 05:57 PM
Hawaii........where is the info on my guy Jonathan Franklin from UCLA coming in for a visit?? I like that kid a lot in the draft at RB.

Mark Kaboly ‏@MarkKaboly_Trib:

RT "@BobLabriola: #Steelers Draft visitors today: UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin; TCU WR Josh Boyce”

https://twitter.com/BobLabriola/status/319841476416790528


UCLA's Johnathan Franklin plans on being mayor of L.A. after NFL career

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UCLA running back Johnathan Franklin rushed for 1,734 yards on 282 carries as a senior. He is projected as a second-round pick.

By Tyler Dunne of the Journal Sentinel April 2, 2013

Green Bay - Out west, his quarterback is convinced. UCLA's Brett Hundley says Johnathan Franklin is the best running back in the draft, a guaranteed "superstar."

"I have no doubt about it," Hundley said. "He's going to be a Pro Bowler, a Hall of Famer, all of that."

Franklin wouldn't mind a bust in Canton. But he has broader goals, a master plan. The focus is more on Crips and Bloods than Xs and Os. At some point, Franklin wants to be the mayor of Los Angeles. Nothing less.

Growing up in South Central L.A. - seeing so many peers fade into a world of drugs, gang violence, everything - had a lasting effect on Franklin.

Some teams ask Franklin about this, some don't. The Green Bay Packers, in need of another back, will be taking a look at this 5-foot-10, 205-pounder. Franklin only talks about his plan to run for mayor if they ask.

And when they do, teams quickly see the real Johnathan Franklin.

"I think it's great for all athletes to be more than just football players," Franklin said. "Football does not define who we are. It's sad to say, but for a lot of athletes it's all about football."

Ten and counting

Franklin says 10 people he knew closely were shot and killed throughout his childhood. As he says, "that number is still rising." In South Central L.A., it's a predictable cycle that entraps children early and doesn't let go. The infamous "gang capital" of the nation hosts 450 different gangs with more than 45,000 members, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

Asked how bad his area was, Franklin laughs. Words don't do it justice. He remembers everyday conversations in fourth, fifth grade. They talked about who was shot, who was killed, with casual, numbing nonchalance.

"It's so sad. It's crazy," Franklin said. "It was so natural for us to hear because we heard it every day. We became accustomed to it. It didn't become a big deal anymore. It's sad to say but that was just our reality. That was our way of life. That was our bubble. We didn't know anything else."

Franklin says football was his way out. But kids he grew up with, friends that lived in his same apartment, weren't so lucky.

"It's definitely sad," Franklin said. "But it definitely taught me to become tough and to be able to get through things. I always look back and never forget where I came from and never forget who I am. So in some ways it has been a blessing in disguise."

He decided to do something about it. Franklin gained a mentor in Martin Ludlow, a former member of the L.A. City Council. In college, Franklin interned with Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa for a month and a half. And his see-the-light moment truly came during a Chamber of Commerce meeting.

Throughout an emotional public forum, citizens presented problems. Franklin heard the grim details and knew exactly where each person was coming from. Problem was, he didn't think the people in power did. He said the complaints went in one ear and out the other. It irked him.

If he were mayor, Franklin vowed, this wouldn't happen. Right then, he made up his mind.

"I felt that I could make the changes that L.A. needs," Franklin said, "and take it where it needs to be and develop an identity for Los Angeles."

There's always motivation. His sophomore year at UCLA, Franklin gave a speech to elementary school students and told a story about one of his friends getting shot. Afterward, one fourth-grader in the crowd told Franklin that the victim was, in fact, his cousin.

The boy was conflicted, too. His family wanted him to join a gang.

Said Franklin, "When I heard that, I said, 'Wow.' It blew me away."

With the mayor, he attended meetings and dealt with the fire department, police department and community leaders. With the Bruins, he shattered the school's rushing record. Franklin rushed for 1,734 yards on 282 carries (6.1 average) with 13 touchdowns as a senior. Projected as a second-round pick in the draft later this month, Franklin could be a possibility in Green Bay.

Not surprisingly, Franklin spoke up when needed through UCLA's upstart, 9-5 season.

"He's affirmative with what he's talking about," Hundley said. "He practices what he preaches. He doesn't just talk about it, too. He spoke up whenever he needed to. When he spoke, everybody listened. Whenever he said something, it was something good."

From their daily conversations and weekly visits the running back made to a children's hospital, Hundley could tell Franklin wanted to make a difference beyond football. But can he really change L.A.? According to the LAPD, in the last three years there have been more than 16,398 verified violent gang crimes, including 491 homicides, nearly 7,047 felony assaults and about 5,518 robberies and 98 rapes.

Gang members are idolized. The lifestyle is glorified.

Kids don't see the statistics - they see women and money and stature.

"Everybody loves the gang members," he said. "They were the hot people in the neighborhood. All the girls liked them. You saw them have all this money growing up. They were a lot of peoples' role models. When you're young - and I feel everybody can agree with this - everybody wants to be known, everybody wants to be popular, everybody wants to be That Guy."

Somehow, he wants to change the culture of parenting. He wants to institute as many programs and outlets for youth as possible. Johnathan Franklin insists he has big plans that can work.

Football for now

But first, it's football. Franklin is a one-cut running back skilled at pressing the hole. He's fast enough, with 4.49-second speed in the 40-yard dash. And Franklin runs with a striking blend of vision and power. If the Packers are considering a back, he may be a legitimate option in the second round.

Green Bay would be a tad different than L.A. There are more curds than crime around here. But anywhere Franklin goes is a temporary stop.

Whenever he's done with football, it's back to Los Angeles.

"Football does not define us," Franklin said. "I love the game and I have a passion for it but the game is not just me. I'm more than just the game. I feel it's great to show that to everybody. It teaches you not to be limited in life."

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/uclas-franklin-plans-on-being-mayor-of-la-after-nfl-career-vf9d5sk-201174171.html

Hawaii 5-0
04-04-2013, 06:45 PM
Hawaii........where is the info on my guy Jonathan Franklin from UCLA coming in for a visit?? I like that kid a lot in the draft at RB.

College RB, WR visit Steelers

By Alan Robinson
Published: Thursday, April 4, 2013

The Steelers finally moved away Thursday from bringing in college linebackers for visits, hosting receiver Josh Boyce of TCU and running back Johnathan Franklin of UCLA.

Thin at linebacker after releasing James Harrison, and with 2012 draft pick Sean Spence's status in doubt, the Steelers concentrated on linebackers by bringing in seven for visits from Monday to Wednesday.

Receiver is an equally critical need for the Steelers, but Boyce was the first wideout to visit the team's South Side offices. Franklin was the second running back. Two safeties visited earlier.

The Steelers can bring in as many as 30 players for in-house visits in advance of the NFL Draft from April 25-27.

Franklin could be available to the Steelers in the second or third round, or about when they might target a running back.

He was not highly recruited out of Dorsey High School in Los Angeles, but he went on to make 45 college starts. Franklin left UCLA as the school's all-time leading single-season rusher (1,734 yards) and career rusher (4,403). He also accounted for 4,920 all-purpose yards.

The 5-foot-11, 205-pound Boyce projects as a slot receiver in the NFL; his career high at TCU was 61 catches as a junior. He had strong results across the board at the NFL Scouting Combine in February but was later diagnosed with a broken toe and was unable to work out at TCU's pro day last month.

Boyce projects as a mid-round draft pick.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/3781588-74/steelers-boyce-franklin#ixzz2PX96Dteu