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Vis
06-21-2013, 09:54 AM
ummmm, what did I miss?

I'm not licensed in MA

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 09:54 AM
Here ya go Killer:

http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/43hitman/shovel_zps2512753c.jpg

get the sand out of your vajayjay

pczach
06-21-2013, 09:55 AM
ummmm, what did I miss?

I'm not licensed in MA

Why are you always starting shit Vis?

:chuckle:

teegre
06-21-2013, 09:55 AM
I meant to quote pczach's previous post. Spot on.

pczach
06-21-2013, 09:58 AM
I meant to quote pczach's previous post. Spot on.

Damnit! Now I don't get to look smart in front of everyone!:mad:

By the way Teeg. Shut up. This is none of your business...:rofl:

Vis
06-21-2013, 09:59 AM
Has Nancy Grace started on this case yet?

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:02 AM
i have no idea whats going on but hopefully we can keep this much excitment and intensity up all day..

still got to be at the office another 7 hours..


come on aaron go on the run, oj style

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 10:05 AM
ummmm, what did I miss?

I'm not licensed in MA

something about Martha Stewart - but I forget now - the clique wouldn't shut up

JonM229
06-21-2013, 10:09 AM
http://www.kcconfidential.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Crying+Baby+Natural+High+for+Some+Moms.jpg

Fixed

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:17 AM
something about Martha Stewart - but I forget now - the clique wouldn't shut up

There, There Killer...


http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x254/monis51/crybabyo.gif

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 10:18 AM
ummmm, what did I miss?

I'm not licensed in MA

We can find someone there to file your pro hac application:chuckle:

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 10:19 AM
I fucked your moms

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:21 AM
I fucked your moms

Oh look! It's an internet tough guy...

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f126/mark1414141414/internet.jpg

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 10:21 AM
I fucked your moms

ewwww you're a necrophiliac?

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 10:23 AM
Meanwhile in another ring of the circus

Man Suing Hernandez Over Alleged Florida Shooting Is A Convicted Drug Dealer

A man suing New England Patriots Tight End Aaron Hernandez for allegedly shooting him while the two rode in a car together in Miami earlier this year is a convicted drug dealer..

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/06/21/man-suing-hernandez-over-alleged-florida-shooting-is-a-convicted-drug-dealer/

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:23 AM
I fucked your moms

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w30/Hondo77_photos/Demotivational/internet-tough-guy.jpg

JonM229
06-21-2013, 10:23 AM
I fucked your moms

How do you know I have two moms?

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:24 AM
I fucked your moms

http://i1263.photobucket.com/albums/ii630/Jay_Bucket99/86ac353f.jpg

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:24 AM
I fucked your moms

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/z/2011/204/15683892_988375.png

a) Good maturity you show,


b) i thought you said this board sucks?


c) kind of creepy since my mother passed away

Vis
06-21-2013, 10:28 AM
We can find someone there to file your pro hac application:chuckle:

I'll represent the home security company. That equipment was leased.

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 10:28 AM
http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq312/43hitman/Walkingdeadmeme_zpse8828a39.jpg

Vis
06-21-2013, 10:30 AM
I fucked your moms

I'm not bothered by this because I was warned about you by your mom. At least I think she was talking to me, I wasn't the only one there. And she had her mouth full.

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 10:31 AM
Meanwhile in another ring of the circus

Man Suing Hernandez Over Alleged Florida Shooting Is A Convicted Drug Dealer

A man suing New England Patriots Tight End Aaron Hernandez for allegedly shooting him while the two rode in a car together in Miami earlier this year is a convicted drug dealer..

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/06/21/man-suing-hernandez-over-alleged-florida-shooting-is-a-convicted-drug-dealer/


Gotta love the company this tool keeps.

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 10:32 AM
I'll represent the home security company. That equipment was leased.

Better hurry to get a prejudgment lien on his bank account before it is dissipated to pay for the defense team

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:32 AM
I fucked your moms

http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss326/proud2BAdomer/ethug.jpg

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:35 AM
Gotta love the company this tool keeps.

Yeah, really. There's quite a debris cloud around this guy.

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 10:36 AM
I'm confused pczach, it appears that the guy on the left is telling us he loves us in sign language. :noidea: :chuckle:

Maybe Killer is just have a tough time expressing his love for us?

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 10:39 AM
BWAhahaha - lookit' em all come running!

boring AND predictable - just like a clique of little schoogirls would act


too funny

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:41 AM
I'm confused pczach, it appears that the guy on the left is telling us he loves us in sign language. :noidea: :chuckle:

Maybe Killer is just have a tough time expressing his love for us?

He could have a tough time somewhere else....:bricks:

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:44 AM
BWAhahaha - lookit' em all come running!

boring AND predictable - just like a clique of little schoogirls would act


too funny

so boring and predictable that you keep coming back for more of the school girls.

nice!!!

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:44 AM
http://i588.photobucket.com/albums/ss326/proud2BAdomer/ethug.jpg

if name killer wasnt a give a way already lol.


shaking in my boots

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:45 AM
BWAhahaha - lookit' em all come running!

boring AND predictable - just like a clique of little schoogirls would act


too funny

Hey Killer(Gotta love that name! So Gangsta!), do you have any more links to post? You do much better when you just post a link. When you talk, you just look like an ass.

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 10:45 AM
shush - the adults are back in the room


I thought this was funny too


Aaron Hernandez barred by Patriots

Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, whose sprawling North Attleboro home is part of a homicide probe, was booted from Gillette Stadium yesterday when he showed up for a workout as cops continued to hunt for clues in the death of a Dorchester man, according to a source close to the team.

Hernandez, 23, was allowed in the building, but staff was waiting for him and instructed him to leave, the source told the Herald.

See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/06/source_aaron_hernandez_barred_by_patriots#sthash.e 0hvJjtX.dpuf

pczach
06-21-2013, 10:49 AM
shush - the adults are back in the room


I thought this was funny too


Aaron Hernandez barred by Patriots

Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez, whose sprawling North Attleboro home is part of a homicide probe, was booted from Gillette Stadium yesterday when he showed up for a workout as cops continued to hunt for clues in the death of a Dorchester man, according to a source close to the team.

Hernandez, 23, was allowed in the building, but staff was waiting for him and instructed him to leave, the source told the Herald.

See more at: http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/06/source_aaron_hernandez_barred_by_patriots#sthash.e 0hvJjtX.dpuf

We know. Post #234 by Atlanta Dan

Beat you at your own game...

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 10:53 AM
We know. Post #234 by Atlanta Dan

Beat you at your own game...

sorry - you fucked up my thread so much it's a fucking junkyard

way to go bitches

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:54 AM
We know. Post #234 by Atlanta Dan

Beat you at your own game...

should we jump all over him, for not reading the links!!!

teegre
06-21-2013, 10:56 AM
Alright guys... enough. If we keep going, Killer will start using racial slurs... and will get himself banned.

(Calling Fire Arians!)

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 10:58 AM
sorry - you fucked up my thread so much it's a fucking junkyard

way to go bitches

They way you act on here..

a) i hope its just an internet act
if not

b) i really hope your in your teens but by your join day Im guessing not..

c) WOW

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:00 AM
sorry - you fucked up my thread so much it's a fucking junkyard

way to go bitches

Stop it! Stop it! It's all you guys fault I'm fucking up!

What, you don't like it when someone else does what you do to everyone else? I didn't even call you names and insult you like you always do to everyone else. Funny how that works, huh?

:toofunny:

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:01 AM
should we jump all over him, for not reading the links!!!

Yes. Yes we should.

teegre
06-21-2013, 11:02 AM
Speaking of jokes...

Dick Cheney, Ted Kennedy, and Aaron Hernandez are driving to a hunting trip...

43Hitman
06-21-2013, 11:03 AM
Can't you guys read, quit fucking up my thread!


RRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEE!

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:04 AM
Speaking of jokes...

Dick Cheney, Ted Kennedy, and Aaron Hernandez are driving to a hunting trip...

Is this the one where all of them get shot in the face?

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 11:12 AM
"derp derp derp"


meanwhile, maybe ESPN jumped the gun



No arrest warrant issued for Aaron Hernandez

(NECN) - Several officials have told NECN that no arrest warrant has been issued for New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.

The officials do, however, confirm that search warrants have been issued. There are no specific details on that.

http://www.necn.com/06/21/13/No-arrest-warrant-issued-for-Aaron-Herna/landing.html?blockID=844513&feedID=11106

teegre
06-21-2013, 11:16 AM
Is this the one where all of them get shot in the face?

The fourth guy in the car is an extra from Star Trek.

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:17 AM
"derp derp derp"


meanwhile, maybe ESPN jumped the gun



No arrest warrant issued for Aaron Hernandez

(NECN) - Several officials have told NECN that no arrest warrant has been issued for New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.

The officials do, however, confirm that search warrants have been issued. There are no specific details on that.

http://www.necn.com/06/21/13/No-arrest-warrant-issued-for-Aaron-Herna/landing.html?blockID=844513&feedID=11106

So you mean jumping down ebsteelers throat and calling everybody names was for nothing? :wave:

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:18 AM
The fourth guy in the car is an extra from Star Trek.

Crewman #6

Bayz101
06-21-2013, 11:23 AM
So you mean jumping down ebsteelers throat and calling everybody names was for nothing? :wave:

:chuckle:

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 11:23 AM
So you mean jumping down ebsteelers throat and calling everybody names was for nothing? :wave:

CANT YOU READ YOU STUPID MUTTHA FUCKA!!!

MDSteel15
06-21-2013, 11:23 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2345293/Aaron-Hernandez-New-England-Patriots-star-partied-murder-victim-Odin-Lloyd.html

:hatsoff: Bye bye Hernandez! Say hi to OJ....

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 11:25 AM
So you mean jumping down ebsteelers throat and calling everybody names was for nothing? :wave:

that? weeping vaginas can't take a little teasing?

not for nothing - you were good entertainment till I had my morning 6 pack

had to get up early for the summer solstice block party orgy...


OK - I feel better now

Hernandez shoulda just knocked the guy out and sprinkled some coke on the guy and let the cops do the rest - or did I already say that

teegre
06-21-2013, 11:27 AM
So you mean jumping down ebsteelers throat and calling everybody names was for nothing? :wave:

Oh man... that could not have ended more perfectly.

Killer, if you planned that, you're a genius. Kaufman-esque.

Wow!!!

teegre
06-21-2013, 11:30 AM
that? weeping vaginas can't take a little teasing?

not for nothing - you were good entertainment till I had my morning 6 pack

had to get up early for the summer solstice block party orgy...


OK - I feel better now

Hernandez shoulda just knocked the guy out and sprinkled some coke on the guy and let the cops do the rest - or did I already say that

That last part, alas, is true.

Witty retort. Nicely done.

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 11:32 AM
Oh man... that could not have ended more perfectly.

Killer, if you planned that, you're a genius. Kaufman-esque.

Wow!!!

well, us assholes need our attention too, but genius? naw


Just call me "The Maestro":sofunny:

Bayz101
06-21-2013, 11:32 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2345293/Aaron-Hernandez-New-England-Patriots-star-partied-murder-victim-Odin-Lloyd.html

:hatsoff: Bye bye Hernandez! Say hi to OJ....

Merged your thread with this one.

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 11:35 AM
that? weeping vaginas can't take a little teasing?
not for nothing - you were good entertainment till I had my morning 6 pack

had to get up early for the summer solstice block party orgy...


OK - I feel better now

Hernandez shoulda just knocked the guy out and sprinkled some coke on the guy and let the cops do the rest - or did I already say that

seems more like its the other way around, with all the bitching and complaining about people taking over your thread, and blah blah blah, calling everyone school girls yet your the one acting like a 17 year old bitch.


and about a 100 posts ago you said this forum is boring. cant make this shyt up

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 11:37 AM
Merged your thread with this one.

idk if md wanted you to do that.. we got some posters around here who take ownership in their thread and dont like when others take it over... geez bayz get with the friggin program!

teegre
06-21-2013, 11:39 AM
well, us assholes need our attention too, but genius? naw


Just call me "The Maestro":sofunny:

I gotta give you credit. You took a beating, and ended it w/ a quasi-self-deprecating post. Good retort.

I laughed... so, now... back to Hernandez.

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 11:40 AM
I gotta give you credit. You took a beating, and ended it w/ a quasi-self-deprecating post. Good retort.

I laughed... so, now... back to Hernandez.

no going back to Hernandez, he might as well just park outside the jail house and get this situation squared away... or go on the road o.j style

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:43 AM
Merged your thread with this one.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! !!!

pczach
06-21-2013, 11:44 AM
well, us assholes need our attention too, but genius? naw


Just call me "The Maestro":sofunny:

Yeah, you can be alright sometimes.:chuckle:

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 11:54 AM
now I remember what I was gonna say to Vis

I was eventually gonna say Ahern shoulda had his white friend Chip driving the murder car

"I didn't know I couldn't do that"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3dk6KAvQM

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 12:08 PM
more brouhaha

ABC News is reporting (via Adam Schefter of ESPN) that police have prepared an arrest warrant for Hernandez. That the police have “prepared” the arrest warrant, rather than “issued” the arrest warrant, suggests that the radio report was correct that Hernandez will be arrested, while the Globe report was correct that the paperwork hasn’t actually been filed yet.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/21/police-have-prepared-arrest-warrant-for-aaron-hernandez/

------------------------

the cops are trying to make him snap and go OJ!

gas and go buddy!

run for it!

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 12:11 PM
Yeah, you can be alright sometimes.:chuckle:

:hug::drink::thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpzhm6084O0

Vis
06-21-2013, 12:20 PM
Hernandez was just picked up for breaking into a hotel room to get back a signed jersey.

steelax04
06-21-2013, 12:28 PM
Hernandez was just picked up for breaking into a hotel room for to get back a signed jersey.

Can you please post a link. I'd like to not read it.

Vis
06-21-2013, 12:30 PM
Can you please post a link. I'd like to not read it.

Don't quote me until after I correct grammatical errors.

steelax04
06-21-2013, 12:32 PM
Don't quote me until after I figure out I'm stupid and can't type correctly and correct grammatical errors.

I'll just fix your quotes from now on.

pczach
06-21-2013, 12:35 PM
Hernandez was just picked up for breaking into a hotel room to get back a signed jersey.

:ttiwwp:

JonM229
06-21-2013, 12:44 PM
:ttiwwp:

http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/JonM229/shower2.jpg


I can do this all day

pczach
06-21-2013, 12:48 PM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/JonM229/shower2.jpg


I can do this all day

Wait a minute. That doesn't look like a signed jersey to me!

JonM229
06-21-2013, 12:48 PM
Wait a minute. That doesn't look like a signed jersey to me!

I'll sign it if you really want

pczach
06-21-2013, 01:03 PM
I'll sign it if you really want

What is it with you and showers?:chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 01:07 PM
I always enjoy how after it hits the fan for someone folks who previously were silent start to say how much they never liked the guy

Aaron Hernandez’s scouting report was ominous

NFL teams knew there were concerns about Florida tight end Aaron Hernandez going into the 2010 NFL draft.

The marijuana use, the short fuse, the shadowy friends from his Connecticut hometown who made visits to Gainesville, Fla. — where they were well known. It was also known that Hernandez was generally regarded as a hard worker on the field, and his talent and versatility were evident.

Like nearly all potential draft picks, Hernandez was a risk/reward prospect, though the risk seemed bigger with him.

Hernandez is under investigation in connection with a homicide after the body of Odin Lloyd, 27, was found near Hernandez’s North Attleborough home on Monday. Hernandez is also facing a civil lawsuit after allegedly shooting a friend in the face in the Miami area earlier this year.

Hernandez’s troubles were well known, long before the Patriots selected him in the fourth round.

An NFL scout revealed his team’s pre-draft file on Hernandez on Thursday, and one section stood out:

“Self-esteem is quite low; not well-adjusted emotionally, not happy, moods unpredictable, not stable, doesn’t take much to set him off, but not an especially jumpy guy,” the scout said.

Though he has three NFL seasons under his belt, Hernandez is just 23. He entered Florida in the spring semester of 2007, just two months after he turned 17.

But even arriving on campus at such a young age, Hernandez already was using marijuana and quickly settled into the party life of his Gators teammates, the scout said.

Hernandez left Bristol for Gainesville a year after his father, Dennis, died after complications from hernia surgery. Hernandez has said his father’s death affected him deeply, and sent him on a self-destructive path; his older brother, D.J., did everything he could to keep Aaron focused on football and school.

The scout said Hernandez had long been around “street activity,” and once his father died, it gave him reason to act out.

Not long after arriving at Florida, Hernandez was questioned in connection with a shooting outside of a nightclub, the scout said, but nothing came of it.

He was suspended for one game during his Gators career for failing a drug test; the scout said a suspension isn’t usually handed down until the third or fourth failed test.

After the Patriots drafted Hernandez in the fourth round in 2010, the Globe quoted one NFL executive who suggested he had failed four to six drug tests in his college career. Hernandez released a statement after that report was published, saying he only failed one test.

A second scout, who worked for an AFC team before the 2010 draft, said Hernandez’s marijuana and character problems were the worst-kept secret in the scouting community.

“It was pretty well known that he had failed some drug tests at Florida, and there were questions about his maturity that come along with that,” the scout said. “You worried about the people he hung out with.”

Though the first scout said Hernandez’s friends from Connecticut made visits to Florida, one former Florida staffer said then-coach Urban Meyer “didn’t let anyone in” to the program who wasn’t part of a player’s support circle.

“[Hernandez] was extremely young when he got there for us, we knew that, but it seemed like he had turned a corner and was maturing,” the former Gators staffer said. “We knew there were things to work through. Hard-working kid, guys on team loved him. He’s a tough guy; he didn’t take crap off anybody, but never to the lines of what’s being talked about [now].

“One of Urban’s strengths, he can see a kid like that and reach them like others can’t.”

A third scout recalled that Hernandez was considered the toughest kid on the Gators’ roster and “no one will mess with him.”

Despite those question marks, New England made Hernandez the 113th pick in the draft, getting what many considered to be a player with first-round talent for a fourth-round price tag.

It didn’t take long for Hernandez’s quick temper to be revealed at Gillette Stadium. According to an NFL source, within days of being drafted, Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film.

When he couldn’t figure out how to use the equipment, he asked how it worked, but got no answer. When Wes Welker walked by the room, Hernandez asked for his help, but Welker said, “Rookie, you figure it out.”

Hernandez responded with expletives.

Hernandez spends little, if any, time with his Patriots teammates off the field, opting to spend his time with those same friends who used to visit him in Gainesville and have known him for years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/21/drafting-hernandez-was-always-risk-reward-proposition-for-patriots/3HWjGvTSTOOOs5BtpvFDcJ/story.html

Vis
06-21-2013, 01:11 PM
All I know is I never liked the guy.

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 01:19 PM
I always enjoy how after it hits the fan for someone folks who previously were silent start to say how much they never liked the guy

Aaron Hernandez’s scouting report was ominous

NFL teams knew there were concerns about Florida tight end Aaron Hernandez going into the 2010 NFL draft.

The marijuana use, the short fuse, the shadowy friends from his Connecticut hometown who made visits to Gainesville, Fla. — where they were well known. It was also known that Hernandez was generally regarded as a hard worker on the field, and his talent and versatility were evident.

Like nearly all potential draft picks, Hernandez was a risk/reward prospect, though the risk seemed bigger with him.

Hernandez is under investigation in connection with a homicide after the body of Odin Lloyd, 27, was found near Hernandez’s North Attleborough home on Monday. Hernandez is also facing a civil lawsuit after allegedly shooting a friend in the face in the Miami area earlier this year.

Hernandez’s troubles were well known, long before the Patriots selected him in the fourth round.

An NFL scout revealed his team’s pre-draft file on Hernandez on Thursday, and one section stood out:

“Self-esteem is quite low; not well-adjusted emotionally, not happy, moods unpredictable, not stable, doesn’t take much to set him off, but not an especially jumpy guy,” the scout said.

Though he has three NFL seasons under his belt, Hernandez is just 23. He entered Florida in the spring semester of 2007, just two months after he turned 17.

But even arriving on campus at such a young age, Hernandez already was using marijuana and quickly settled into the party life of his Gators teammates, the scout said.

Hernandez left Bristol for Gainesville a year after his father, Dennis, died after complications from hernia surgery. Hernandez has said his father’s death affected him deeply, and sent him on a self-destructive path; his older brother, D.J., did everything he could to keep Aaron focused on football and school.

The scout said Hernandez had long been around “street activity,” and once his father died, it gave him reason to act out.

Not long after arriving at Florida, Hernandez was questioned in connection with a shooting outside of a nightclub, the scout said, but nothing came of it.

He was suspended for one game during his Gators career for failing a drug test; the scout said a suspension isn’t usually handed down until the third or fourth failed test.

After the Patriots drafted Hernandez in the fourth round in 2010, the Globe quoted one NFL executive who suggested he had failed four to six drug tests in his college career. Hernandez released a statement after that report was published, saying he only failed one test.

A second scout, who worked for an AFC team before the 2010 draft, said Hernandez’s marijuana and character problems were the worst-kept secret in the scouting community.

“It was pretty well known that he had failed some drug tests at Florida, and there were questions about his maturity that come along with that,” the scout said. “You worried about the people he hung out with.”

Though the first scout said Hernandez’s friends from Connecticut made visits to Florida, one former Florida staffer said then-coach Urban Meyer “didn’t let anyone in” to the program who wasn’t part of a player’s support circle.

“[Hernandez] was extremely young when he got there for us, we knew that, but it seemed like he had turned a corner and was maturing,” the former Gators staffer said. “We knew there were things to work through. Hard-working kid, guys on team loved him. He’s a tough guy; he didn’t take crap off anybody, but never to the lines of what’s being talked about [now].

“One of Urban’s strengths, he can see a kid like that and reach them like others can’t.”

A third scout recalled that Hernandez was considered the toughest kid on the Gators’ roster and “no one will mess with him.”

Despite those question marks, New England made Hernandez the 113th pick in the draft, getting what many considered to be a player with first-round talent for a fourth-round price tag.

It didn’t take long for Hernandez’s quick temper to be revealed at Gillette Stadium. According to an NFL source, within days of being drafted, Hernandez was at the team facility trying to watch film.

When he couldn’t figure out how to use the equipment, he asked how it worked, but got no answer. When Wes Welker walked by the room, Hernandez asked for his help, but Welker said, “Rookie, you figure it out.”

Hernandez responded with expletives.
Hernandez spends little, if any, time with his Patriots teammates off the field, opting to spend his time with those same friends who used to visit him in Gainesville and have known him for years.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/21/drafting-hernandez-was-always-risk-reward-proposition-for-patriots/3HWjGvTSTOOOs5BtpvFDcJ/story.html

who the hell was this goon of a doctor? geez



at least he was there trying to watch film and get better, goof ass Wes Welker, with a teammate like that.. I'd him in the head with the projector

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 01:20 PM
All I know is I never liked the guy.


its either that, when something bad happens.


or

when someone dies everyone mentions how much they loved him and how great he was

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 01:51 PM
Anyone want to take bets on what Belichick's next presser is like?

new press conference

Belichick: “Who wants to talk about Tebow???”

Fire Arians
06-21-2013, 02:07 PM
I'll sign it if you really want

the head will be facing the other way soon when he's in prison

tony hipchest
06-21-2013, 02:28 PM
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg93/JonM229/shower2.jpg


I can do this all day:chuckle:

WTF???

nevermind.:headshake:

carry on....

Fire Arians
06-21-2013, 02:29 PM
do one with tom brady's face lol

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 02:35 PM
the million dollar cookie starts to crumble

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/get-attachment.jpg?w=199

Aaron Hernandez used to be a spokesman for CytoSport. Now, company announces end of its endorsement contract "effective immediately"Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 02:37 PM
The author of this piece notes the Patriots are loaded with players having "ominous" character flaws:sofunny:

Aaron Hernandez's Unsavory Past Has No Bearing on His Unsavory Present

It’s been a rough week for New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez. He may or may not be implicated in a murder investigation. He may or may not be facing a warrant for his arrest. He may or may not have shot a man in the face this February. Nobody really knows what’s going on. Nobody, that is, except for the self-righteous media types who’ve suggested that we should’ve seen it coming all along, whatever it turns out to be.

Today, the Boston Globe ran an aggravating piece headlined “Aaron Hernandez’s scouting report was ominous.” The story details several unsavory aspects of Hernandez’s past: “The marijuana use, the short fuse, the shadowy friends from his Connecticut hometown.” Earlier this week, Sports Illustrated ran a similar story, reporting that, in 2010, Hernandez slipped to the fourth round of the NFL Draft because many teams had “marijuana use and gang concerns.” The implication of these stories is obvious: Hernandez’s pals and weed smoking should have tipped us off that one day he’d be in real trouble....

It is dishonest and irrelevant to claim that these are “ominous” signs. Or, at least, they’re no more ominous than the character flaws exhibited by other Patriots players: like Rob Gronkowski, who appears to really, really, really enjoy drinking to excess; Tom Brady, who started dating Gisele Bundchen while Bridget Moynahan was pregnant with his child; Vince Wilfork, who allegedly received $50,000 in under-the-table benefits from disgraced booster Nevin Shapiro while enrolled at the University of Miami; Mark Harrison, who allegedly trashed a hotel room while attending the NFL Scouting Combine (“The mess included urine and feces left throughout the bathroom, toothpaste on the mirror and garbage left throughout the room”); Brandon Spikes, who attempted to gouge an opponent’s eyes while playing at Florida, and whose brother is serving a life sentence for murder; and Sebastian Vollmer, who is from Germany...

http://www.slate.com/blogs/crime/2013/06/21/aaron_hernandez_the_patriots_tight_end_s_unsavory_ past_has_no_bearing_on.html

ebsteelers
06-21-2013, 02:52 PM
the million dollar cookie starts to crumble

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/get-attachment.jpg?w=199

Aaron Hernandez used to be a spokesman for CytoSport. Now, company announces end of its endorsement contract "effective immediately"Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet

http://memecrunch.com/meme/5J24/got-muscle-milk/image.png

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 03:17 PM
you watch, they'll arrest him after courts close - so his lawyers can't get bail - keep him in county lock-up to stew over the weekend

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 04:02 PM
Some more folks who always knew Hernandez would become a murderer

Aaron Hernandez being entangled in murder probe doesn't surprise many in Gainesville

Gainesville attorney Huntley Johnson was asked specifically Thursday whether he was surprised that Aaron Hernandez found himself entangled in a murder investigation up in Boston.

Johnson paused.

"Disappointed," he said without really answering the question.

The mystic message behind Johnson's response wasn't hard to decipher.

A first-grader could have read between lines.

Johnson was disappointed.

But not surprised.

The fact is, nobody in Gainesville is totally shocked that Hernandez seems to be a person of interest in a homicide probe. Especially not Johnson, the man who is famous for not only representing UF athletes but making their troubles disappear into the legal limbo land of dropped charges and deferred prosecutions.

When Urban Meyer coached in Gainesville, we media cynics used to call Johnson the most valuable member of UF's staff even though he doesn't actually work for the Gators. Even so, he was Meyer's ingenious and innovative "defensive coordinator" because he was so effective at defending some of the Urbanator's gun-toting, bar-fighting miscreants and malcontents.

Some athletes just always seem to find trouble, and Hernandez was certainly one of them at UF. It started in his freshman season when he was arrested after getting into a fight with a bouncer at a bar near campus. He was a juvenile then and got off with a slap on the wrist.

According to the Sporting News, Hernandez also had some controlled-substance issues and was suspended for failed drug tests later in his tenure at UF.

Hernandez was among four Gator football players questioned in a 2007 shooting incident in Gainesville. None of the players was arrested, but detectives questioned them about the shootings of Corey Smith and Justin Glass on the Sunday morning after Florida lost to Auburn in 2007.

According to a Orlando Sentinel report at the time, police said Smith, 28, and Glass, 19, were driving around in traffic about 2:30 a.m. when a man began shooting into their car. Smith was critically wounded in the head while Glass was shot in the arm. Hernandez declined to discuss the case with reporters back then and was never charged with any crime.

And as I write this column, Hernandez has not been charged with any crime in New England either, but there are certainly some suspicious circumstances surrounding the murder investigation.

The body of Odin Lloyd, 27, was found Monday in an industrial park near Hernandez's home in Boston. He had been shot in the back of the head. According to police, Lloyd was a friend of Hernandez's and was dating the sister of Hernandez's girlfriend. Lloyd's body was discovered near a vehicle that had been rented by Hernandez.

According to ABC News, an investigator said police searched Hernandez's mansion a second time Thursday based on evidence that "he destroyed his home security system.'' The investigator, and other law enforcement sources, confirmed that the security system - which included video surveillance cameras - was smashed intentionally.

Not only that, but a cell phone used by Hernandez was handed over to investigators "in pieces'' by his attorneys, the ABC sources said. Police apparently also want to know why several house cleaners were hired on Monday to scrub Hernandez's palatial estate.

And there's more. In another case, a South Florida man has filed a civil lawsuit claiming Hernandez shot him in the face after an argument at a strip club in February. The man, Alexander Bradley, claims the gun shot caused him to lose his right eye.

Let's hope these are all just a series of unfortunate circumstances involving a player who helped Meyer's Gators win two national championships. But you certainly have to wonder about a guy who always seems to be way too close to where the trouble is.

By my count, Hernandez has now been at least questioned in three shootings. A show of hands, please, for those of you who have ever been questioned in just one shooting? At the very least, wouldn't you say Hernandez is hanging out at the wrong places with the wrong crowd?

Then again, some of those who knew him at UF might just tell you the other side of the story.

Maybe Aaron Hernandez doesn't hang out with the wrong crowd at all.

Maybe he is the wrong crowd.:flap:

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/os-mike-bianchi-aaron-hernandez-0621-20130620,0,82706.column?dssReturn

Fire Haley
06-21-2013, 04:04 PM
you knew it wouldn't be long before they started dragging Ben's name through the mud again


Hernandez could face suspension

As the legal process unfolds and more information is made public, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell is expected to meet with Hernandez to discuss the situation.

Goodell has the right to suspend Hernandez under the NFL’s personal conduct policy even if the 23-year-old is never charged with a crime or charges filed against him are later dropped. The former happened in 2010 with Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who was accused of sexual assault by a 20-year-old female in Milledgeville, Ga.

Although police never charged him with a crime, Roethlisberger was still suspended six games under Goodell’s premise that the quarterback endangered underage college students by purchasing alcohol for them and damaged the NFL’s reputation with the attention drawn to the incident.

Goodell also ordered Roethlisberger to “undergo a comprehensive behavioral evaluation by medical professionals” for clearance to return. Roethlisberger complied, and the suspension was reduced to four games.

Per the policy, Goodell may believe that the “available facts clearly indicate egregious circumstances, significant bodily harm or risk to third parties, or an immediate and substantial risk to the integrity and reputation of the NFL.”

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/new-england-patriots-aaron-hernandez-could-be-suspended-nfl-conduct-standards-062113

Buddha Bus
06-21-2013, 04:18 PM
Don't quote me until after I correct grammatical errors.

Why fix them? Just blame it all on your "editors". :noidea:

MasterOfPuppets
06-21-2013, 06:33 PM
Why fix them? Just blame it all on your "editors". :noidea:
i blame bagz....:popcorn:

Bayz101
06-21-2013, 06:36 PM
i blame bagz....:popcorn:

I blame the novel in your signature. :chuckle:

MasterOfPuppets
06-21-2013, 06:53 PM
I blame the novel in your signature. :chuckle:
:chuckle:... i couldn't decide on what quote to use, so i added them all. they are all so prophetic and relevant to whats going on in this country today. we ignore the wisdom and the warnings from our forefathers and we will pay the price.

Bayz101
06-21-2013, 07:02 PM
:chuckle:... i couldn't decide on what quote to use, so i added them all. they are all so prophetic and relevant to whats going on in this country today. we ignore the wisdom and the warnings from our forefathers and we will pay the price.

And I agree with all of them, too. I could add about ten more to that list, but for the sake of the forum, i'll refrain. :sofunny:

MasterOfPuppets
06-21-2013, 07:03 PM
And I agree with all of them, too. I could add about ten more to that list, but for the sake of the forum, i'll refrain. :sofunny:
your only allowed so many characters/space or i woulda had more...:chuckle:

NEBandwagon
06-21-2013, 08:41 PM
jesus motherfucking keerist

will you all shut the fuck up and let Vis answer?


you bitches act just like a clique of 12 y/o little girls on Facebook or something

I had a good joke I was gonna pull on Vis and now all you little busybody jackoffs fucked it up

this board sucks, you will never see another dime from me

you should hop the bandwagon and come join the patriots forums

NEBandwagon
06-21-2013, 08:58 PM
My 2 cents on the Hernandez situation.... FREE HERNANDEZ!

Seriously, is the whole city of boston a bunch of traitors? The boston media are probably secretly a bunch of jets fans!

why would the cops arrest him. the patriots need him! winning is all that matters and him off our team decreases that. I think we shouldn't look at the cops who arrested them as heroes, but the pigs who ruined our chance at a championship! so he shot someone in the face, so what! he catches passes, man. if he keeps producing he can shoot anybody in the face and i wouldn't care as long as we win (except me of course)

yo, is there any room on your guys bandwagon? cause im gonna switch teams if we can't win.

Atlanta Dan
06-21-2013, 09:03 PM
My 2 cents on the Hernandez situation.... FREE HERNANDEZ!

Seriously, is the whole city of boston a bunch of traitors? The boston media are probably secretly a bunch of jets fans!

why would the cops arrest him. the patriots need him! winning is all that matters and him off our team decreases that. I think we shouldn't look at the cops who arrested them as heroes, but the pigs who ruined our chance at a championship! so he shot someone in the face, so what! he catches passes, man. if he keeps producing he can shoot anybody in the face and i wouldn't care as long as we win (except me of course)

yo, is there any room on your guys bandwagon? cause im gonna switch teams if we can't win.

You might want to check out the Ravens - their fans share your concern that being a prime suspect in a murder investigation is no reason for losing a valuable member of the team in the chase for a championship :drink:

GBMelBlount
06-21-2013, 11:20 PM
You might want to check out the Ravens - their fans share your concern that being a prime suspect in a murder investigation is no reason for losing a valuable member of the team in the chase for a championship :drink:

:applaudit: CLASSIC.

JonM229
06-22-2013, 08:36 AM
You might want to check out the Ravens - their fans share your concern that being a prime suspect in a murder investigation is no reason for losing a valuable member of the team in the chase for a championship :drink:

I'm a Ravens fan and I approve this message

Atlanta Dan
06-22-2013, 09:39 AM
It all makes sense now - this clearly is Tim Tebow's fault

For Aaron Hernandez, trouble has been a lingering opponent

Aaron Hernandez once said that rejecting UConn to play football for the University of Florida was the best decision he ever made — in part because it allowed him to get away from his hometown of Bristol. ...

Despite the challenges, Hernandez never ran afoul of the law in Bristol, and many residents interviewed by The Courant say the superstar high school player was generous with his time and respectful to members of the community...

Bristol residents looked forward to the short trip to watch the hometown hero play for UConn, where Hernandez had made an oral commitment during his senior year at Bristol Central.

But three months after his father’s death, Hernandez backed out of his pledge to play for the Huskies, where his brother, D.J., was a quarterback, to attend Florida. He committed to the Gators on the same day he made a recruiting visit, hosted by Tim Tebow, then a freshman quarterback and now a fellow Patriot. The decision “shocked” Terri Hernandez, she said at the time.

Within months of beginning his collegiate football career in Gainesville, Fla., Hernandez was one of four players interviewed by police after an early morning shooting at a night club left two men wounded...

The Patriots drafted Hernandez in the fourth round — well below what his talent projected and after the draft rumors spread that he had tested positive for marijuana multiple times while at Florida. Hernandez also had been suspended by Florida for one game for failing a drug test.

Concerns were also raised that Hernandez was hanging around with an entourage of unsavory friends. (specifically Tim Tebow:banging:)

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/local_coverage/2013/06/for_aaron_hernandez_trouble_has_been_a_lingering_o pponent

What a shame a fine young man was corrupted once he met Tim Tebow:mad:

teegre
06-22-2013, 10:28 AM
Bill Belichick's press conference:
"So... who wants to talk about Tim Tebow?"

pczach
06-22-2013, 10:39 AM
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa73/TVRJomar/Bill.jpg

pczach
06-22-2013, 10:56 AM
There's going to be some hardcore Belichicking going on in these press conferences. He'll definitely be going Splinter Cell on us. He'll be breaking out all the candid details of everything we all want to know. How many hoodies does he own, how much fabric softener does he use, how he practices these press conferences in the mirror at home, all the dirty, filthy details we have been craving for years and years. It's going to be classic!

:chuckle:

Fire Haley
06-22-2013, 10:56 AM
you should hop the bandwagon and come join the patriots forums

I might do that - this place is infested with trolls, it's sickening the shit I have to put up with


as for AHern....


don't listen to them lawyers!

Get in that white SUV and ride!

gas and go buddy!

make a run for it!

http://i950.photobucket.com/albums/ad346/rattlehead666/Fark1/aaronhernandez_macgrubershooting_zpsfaa3f0d7.gif

SteelersCanada
06-22-2013, 02:05 PM
fail. fixing it, sec.

what happened to the ability to embed tweets from twitter guys?

anyway, German Shepherds are in Hernandez's house and they're barking like crazy. S'over, Aaron.

Atlanta Dan
06-22-2013, 02:37 PM
Detectives now searching the doghouse out back of Hernandez house

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNYlGz3CMAEuSDW.jpg

https://twitter.com/KevinGArmstrong/status/348506820089884672

If you ever wonder how pro athletes go broke with all the money they make, this picture of the "doghouse" on the Hernandez property answers your question:chuckle:

Carolina Steelers
06-22-2013, 02:57 PM
Detectives now searching the doghouse out back of Hernandez house

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNYlGz3CMAEuSDW.jpg

https://twitter.com/KevinGArmstrong/status/348506820089884672

If you ever wonder how pro athletes go broke with all the money they make, this picture of the "doghouse" on the Hernandez property answers your question:chuckle:

I know that dog house almost puts my house to shame. Lol

teegre
06-22-2013, 05:03 PM
Oprah has a budget of $100,000 for the food for her dogs.

Since it's split between two dogs, it's not actually as much as it seems.

Wait.. yes it is.

Atlanta Dan
06-22-2013, 06:05 PM
Will Brinson ‏@WillBrinson

Does Aaron Hernandez dog's butler have his own house too?

https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/348509353281720320

Will Brinson ‏@WillBrinson

Setting the over/under at $1200 for the mortgage on Aaron Hernandez dog house.

https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/status/348510523119251457

Bayz101
06-22-2013, 06:32 PM
fail. fixing it, sec.

what happened to the ability to embed tweets from twitter guys?

anyway, German Shepherds are in Hernandez's house and they're barking like crazy. S'over, Aaron.

Might have been because HTML is only turned on in some forums. I've turned it on for this forum, and you can test it out if you'd like.

Bayz101
06-22-2013, 06:33 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Setting the over/under at $1200 for the mortgage on Aaron Hernandez dog house.</p>&mdash; Will Brinson (@WillBrinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/WillBrinson/statuses/348510523119251457">June 22, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bayz101
06-22-2013, 06:33 PM
Tweet embed is back. Just tested it with a tweet Dan posted.

Fire Haley
06-22-2013, 06:45 PM
what happened to the ability to embed tweets from twitter guys?

you been edited too?


them damn anti-Canadian stormtrooper Mods again I bet!

Fire Haley
06-22-2013, 06:51 PM
nevermind

Bayz101
06-22-2013, 09:31 PM
you been edited too?


them damn anti-Canadian stormtrooper Mods again I bet!

:doh:

SteelersCanada
06-22-2013, 09:59 PM
Tweet embed is back. Just tested it with a tweet Dan posted.

Thanks for being quick, Bayz! :drink:

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Wonder if Aaron Hernandez is going to hire five lawyers and go for the nickel defense.</p>&mdash; Denis Leary (@denisleary) <a href="https://twitter.com/denisleary/statuses/348609760154755072">June 23, 2013</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Oh Denis, you so funny.

caplovestroyp43
06-22-2013, 10:53 PM
Detectives now searching the doghouse out back of Hernandez house

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNYlGz3CMAEuSDW.jpg

https://twitter.com/KevinGArmstrong/status/348506820089884672

If you ever wonder how pro athletes go broke with all the money they make, this picture of the "doghouse" on the Hernandez property answers your question:chuckle:

Pretty cool doghouse. Much better than the one Michael "Animal Killer" Vick had. Sees like Hernandez loves his dogs and there is nothing wrong with that.

:hatsoff:

teegre
06-22-2013, 10:56 PM
The cops came out of Hernandez's house, with two bags full of evidence.

Anybody have an idea what might be inside?

I'm guessing clothes (blood, DNA).

caplovestroyp43
06-22-2013, 11:05 PM
jesus motherfucking keerist

will you all shut the fuck up and let Vis answer?


you bitches act just like a clique of 12 y/o little girls on Facebook or something

I had a good joke I was gonna pull on Vis and now all you little busybody jackoffs fucked it up

this board sucks, you will never see another dime from me

Holy moly that language is a little too rough for me!! Simply because Jesus and Christ have absolutely NO relation to the "f" word. Yikes!!!!

Bayz101
06-22-2013, 11:08 PM
Holy moly that language is a little too rough for me!! Simply because Jesus and Christ have absolutely NO relation to the "f" word. Yikes!!!!

Someone pissed in Killers cheerios. He's fine now, though. :thumbsup:

teegre
06-22-2013, 11:10 PM
Someone pissed in Killers cheerios. He's fine now, though. :thumbsup:

I didn't know that Killer was interracial...

Atlanta Dan
06-23-2013, 08:53 AM
“I hope he doesn’t get arrested,” the boy said with a mournful look across the street, “because if he gets arrested, then we don’t have a tight end.” :crying01:

http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/default/public/media/2013/06/22/062213hernandezmh003.1.jpg?c=24e1bf2eb7f3bfcbdce79 cae21ed8736

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/peter_gelzinis/2013/06/gelzinis_in_awe_neighbors_huddle_outside_hernandez

Buddha Bus
06-23-2013, 09:08 AM
I might do that - this place is infested with trolls, it's sickening the shit I have to put up with



you been edited too?


them damn anti-Canadian stormtrooper Mods again I bet!


:rofl:


You're just sooo oppressed, Killer. :rolleyes:

stb_steeler
06-23-2013, 12:57 PM
The cops came out of Hernandez's house, with two bags full of evidence.

Anybody have an idea what might be inside?

I'm guessing clothes (blood, DNA).

CHILD PORN

Bayz101
06-23-2013, 01:58 PM
http://d3fsqtc6sy2z27.cloudfront.net/uploads/41b834462c4b4efda40c2d578d8deec3_large

teegre
06-23-2013, 07:04 PM
CHILD PORN

If that's the case, he'll rot in hell.
Sincerely,
Pete Townsend

harrison'samonster
06-23-2013, 07:06 PM
If that's the case, he'll rot in hell.
Sincerely,
Pete Townsend

actually, I thought Townsend was collecting research for a book. I believe he was molested himself when he was young. not sure if it's true, just what I had heard.

teegre
06-23-2013, 07:07 PM
actually, I thought Townsend was collecting research for a book. I believe he was molested himself when he was young. not sure if it's true, just what I had heard.

That is indeed the excuse that he gave: "It was research... hours & hours of research."

Lady Steel
06-24-2013, 12:38 AM
“I hope he doesn’t get arrested,” the boy said with a mournful look across the street, “because if he gets arrested, then we don’t have a tight end.” :crying01:

http://bostonherald.com/sites/default/files/styles/default/public/media/2013/06/22/062213hernandezmh003.1.jpg?c=24e1bf2eb7f3bfcbdce79 cae21ed8736

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/columnists/peter_gelzinis/2013/06/gelzinis_in_awe_neighbors_huddle_outside_hernandez


OMG, look! It's NEPatriots!!!

ricardisimo
06-24-2013, 03:44 AM
He totally killed that poor man. As we all know from 2000, the football gods reward human sacrifice with rings. Expect the Pats to win the Super Bowl this year.
It's true. God demands blood. Read the bible, folks.

ricardisimo
06-24-2013, 03:57 AM
:chuckle:... i couldn't decide on what quote to use, so i added them all. they are all so prophetic and relevant to whats going on in this country today. we ignore the wisdom and the warnings from our forefathers and we will pay the price.
I like this one:
"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." - Thomas Jefferson

It reminds me a bit of the quote I use on another forum:
“Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.” -- Bertrand Russell

Vis
06-24-2013, 06:48 AM
[/B][/I]It reminds me a bit of the quote I use on another forum:
“Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.” -- Bertrand Russell

My favorite Bertrand Russell quotes are:

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.

and

I believe in using words, not fists. I believe in my outrage knowing people are living in boxes on the street. I believe in honesty. I believe in a good time. I believe in good food. I believe in sex.

Vis
06-24-2013, 11:52 AM
Report: Police prepare to search water near Hernandez’s home

Posted by Mike Florio on June 24, 2013, 10:05 AM EDT

The authorities investigating the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd apparently rested on Sunday. On Monday, they’re back at it.

According to Kathryn Sotnik of NECN, police are preparing to enter a body of water near the home of Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez.

The most obvious source for speculation is that they’re searching for the gun that was used to shoot Lloyd. If so, it’s unknown whether the police have reason to think the gun is there, or whether they are just being thorough.

On that point, keep this in mind. In the Pilot Flying J investigation, prosecutors quietly are securing guilty pleas and commitments to cooperate from lower-level executives as they work their way up the ladder to “senior management.” In this case, there are two other men who possibly have decided to save their own skin and rat out Hernandez.

That’s where the reports of an arrest warrant, repeated visits to his house, and constant media scrutiny can help the police. It has become virtually impossible for Hernandez to have face-to-face meetings with the other two men, making it difficult for them to get their stories straight. And since the other two men apparently aren’t subject to round-the-clock media surveillance, for all anyone knows they’ve decided to cut a deal and let the police focus on the biggest fish in the bowl.

Either way, if the police emerge from that water with a handgun, it will be the biggest development in the case to date.

Lokki
06-24-2013, 04:05 PM
I like this one:
"The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers." - Thomas Jefferson

It reminds me a bit of the quote I use on another forum:
“Men are born ignorant, not stupid. They are made stupid by education.” -- Bertrand Russell

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4777806080/hB529CBE0/

pczach
06-24-2013, 06:08 PM
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/4777806080/hB529CBE0/

http://i936.photobucket.com/albums/ad207/souzie23/Quotes/4422479_460s.jpg

pczach
06-24-2013, 06:12 PM
you been edited too?


them damn anti-Canadian stormtrooper Mods again I bet!

http://i1161.photobucket.com/albums/q514/Hysmofyteligok/Giggles%20quotes%20and%20other%20stuff/internet-memes-canadian-is-now-a-gender.jpg

Lady Steel
06-25-2013, 11:03 PM
Attorney for Aaron Hernandez finally speaks up


NORTH ATTLEBOROUGH, Mass. — As a week-old homicide investigation swirls around Aaron Hernandez, who remains in seclusion, the lawyer who represented former Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis in a murder trial in 2000 said Monday that he thought police "are trying to make a murder case on Hernandez by methodically putting all the pieces together."

And while Atlanta attorney Ed Garland insisted he was not second-guessing the New England Patriots tight end's legal team, he thought Hernandez's attorney, Michael Fee, had to speak publicly. Garland's message was simple: Tell the public not to jump to conclusions — and keep telling them.

"At some point, I would be aggressive to state my client's innocence," Garland told USA TODAY Sports. "If all that comes out is negative, it can have an effect on the potential jury. You can't have the public hear one side for too long.

"I can't tell him what to do, because I'm not on the inside. But if you look at what we've done in high-profile cases, I would be inclined to make some statement to the public that says, 'Do not make up your mind until you've heard all the facts.'"

Up to that point, Fee had publicly acknowledged only that there was a homicide investigation involving his client. But shortly after Garland spoke to USA TODAY Sports, Fee issued a statement Monday night — as if he were taking Garland's advice. Kind of.

"Over the past week, our client, Aaron Hernandez, has been the subject of a relentless flood of rumors, misinformation and false reports in the media," the statement said. "These include the repeated publication of a supposedly confirmed report that an arrest warrant had been issued for Aaron, a report that was exposed as untrue. None of these false reports come from official sources and we appreciate the professionalism and restraint shown by the Bristol County District Attorney's Office to date with regard to its public statements while its investigation is underway.

"Out of respect for that ongoing investigation, we will continue to refrain from commenting on its substance."

There was no statement of innocence and no cautioning the public against a rush to judgment, however.

Garland said the leaks Fee likely was alluding to, including reports that Hernandez smashed his cellphone and tampered with surveillance cameras, are working against Hernandez, which is why his attorney had to speak out. And to determine if potential jurors are leaning one way or another, Garland said Hernandez's legal team should be monitoring news and social media.

"Potential jurors begin to form opinions quickly, and once they're formed, it's tough to get an impartial jury," he said. "His lawyer could track the public's responses to what is happening — comments on Twitter, Facebook, stories in the media — and analyze them to determine if he could get a fair trial."

Garland spoke several hours after state police investigators returned to Hernandez's upscale neighborhood for another search Monday. Two divers in scuba gear checked a nearby pond before the team scoured densely wooded areas with metal detectors. According to one member of the six-man search team, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the case, investigators found no evidence during a search that began at 10:45 a.m. ET and lasted about an hour.

Garland, who also represented Pittsburgh Steelers star Ben Roethlisberger against sexual assault allegations in 2010, said the defense likely has launched its own investigation.

State police questioned Hernandez and searched his home June 18, the day after the body of a friend, semipro football player Odin Lloyd, was found dead. Lloyd, 27, had been shot in the head. He was discovered in an empty lot of an industrial park, roughly a half-mile from Hernandez's home.

On Saturday, police returned to Hernandez's home with a swarm of investigators and two police dogs for nearly four hours. They concentrated on the house, a large playhouse in the back yard that Hernandez uses as a doghouse, nearby woods and Hernandez's white SUV, which was parked in the driveway.

Investigators left with approximately a dozen bags. A spokeswoman for the Bristol County District Attorney's office declined to comment Monday on that search and the divers, saying the office would make a statement when there was a development in the case.

Last week, there were several reports that an arrest warrant had been issued for Hernandez for obstruction of justice, but a clerk in the district court office repeated Monday that no warrant had been issued for anyone in the case by the close of business.

David Siegel, a professor of law at New England Law Boston, said it's possible police want to make sure they have solid evidence before making an arrest or clearing Hernandez as a suspect in Lloyd's death.

"There's no magic to police going to search a place three times as opposed to one, but I also think that law enforcement tends to be particularly careful when there's a high-profile kind of possible suspect," Siegel said. "They may anticipate higher scrutiny of their work if it ends up incriminating someone, and they might be concerned there is excessive public interest and pressure to rush to judgment."

Garland, meanwhile, thinks the media staking out Hernandez's home has a long wait.

"If (police) thought they had an absolute cinch, an indefensible charge, they might, for some strategic purpose, bring a preliminary charge like obstruction," Garland said.

"But there is extensive crime lab work to be done. They're chasing down witnesses. What are the phone records, the content of text messages? What phone numbers are involved? Who was he calling? What was he saying? Are there fingerprints? Whose are they? My inclination is this will take a substantial period of time."


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/06/24/aaron-hernandez-legal-team/2454221/

OX1947
06-26-2013, 12:40 AM
Thank god I am not a public figure. I would be worse then Bill Parcells, Barry Bonds and Jim Leiland combined. These mother fuckers at BSPN and all these news outlets from the internet to local tv were ROASTING Hernandez and making it out like he killed, left, disposed and is ready to go to the chair at moments notice. All of a sudden, no evidence of shit anywhere, turns out there is no warrant for his arrest, they don't have shit. Completely destroyed this guy without a shred of anything and on top of that, that jerk off of an organization tells him to go home when he needed to go somewhere to get away. Nice one Kraft and Belicrap, nice. Way to put the media in front of your own players just like every other drone, zombie, easily manipulated asshole out there. If nothing comes out of this, which it looks like it will be, Hernandez should be one of those guys who comes to work and leaves. Tell anyone or anything from commissioner, to coach to owner to suck my schlong if they want anything out of him. Whatta disgrace.

Buddha Bus
06-26-2013, 03:58 AM
Thank god I am not a public figure. I would be worse then Bill Parcells, Barry Bonds and Jim Leiland combined. These mother fuckers at BSPN and all these news outlets from the internet to local tv were ROASTING Hernandez and making it out like he killed, left, disposed and is ready to go to the chair at moments notice. All of a sudden, no evidence of shit anywhere, turns out there is no warrant for his arrest, they don't have shit. Completely destroyed this guy without a shred of anything and on top of that, that jerk off of an organization tells him to go home when he needed to go somewhere to get away. Nice one Kraft and Belicrap, nice. Way to put the media in front of your own players just like every other drone, zombie, easily manipulated asshole out there. If nothing comes out of this, which it looks like it will be, Hernandez should be one of those guys who comes to work and leaves. Tell anyone or anything from commissioner, to coach to owner to suck my schlong if they want anything out of him. Whatta disgrace.

It may be too early to fire up the electric chair, but it's also too early to exonerate him also. He at least knows something. Why else would he have destroyed his cell phone, surveillance system, and had a cleaning crew come to his home in the midst of the investigation? You have to admit, that doesn't sound like the actions of a guy who is innocent and cooperative. It also doesn't look good that he was with a small group of people last seen with the victim and the police have left his home with bags of "evidence" on more than one occasion.

Vis
06-26-2013, 07:17 AM
Exactly Buddha. Everyone who has seen the evidence raise your hands. But as soon as Hernandez takes a question from the press it should be, why did you destroy the security recorder and the phone. That would be my question as a team owner before I let him play as well.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 08:13 AM
you'll never hear a peep from him - he's all lawyered up



Noted defense attorney Jamie Sultan was seen leaving Aaron Hernandez's home Tuesday afternoon, which brought to light another layer of the New England Patriots tight end's legal team

"Attorney Jamie Sultan has more than 30 years of experience fighting for clients facing serious criminal charges in both state and federal courts. His practice includes seeking to fend off charges against clients under investigation, defending clients who have been charged, and prosecuting appeals and post-trial motions on behalf of clients following conviction"

http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2013/06/defense_attorney_jamie_sultan.html

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 08:46 AM
Exactly Buddha. Everyone who has seen the evidence raise your hands. But as soon as Hernandez takes a question from the press it should be, why did you destroy the security recorder and the phone. That would be my question as a team owner before I let him play as well.

Aaron: I destroyed the evidence because I was just following Roger Goodells' advice of what he did during spy gate. NO TAPES = NO EVIDENCE

Boston Media: Sounds good to us!!! Welcome back Aaron!

Lokki
06-26-2013, 09:10 AM
Apparently, he was just led from his house in handcuffs, according to a Breaking News at the top of MSN.com. There is no article to link just yet.

JonM229
06-26-2013, 09:16 AM
From ESPN:

Aaron Hernandez Taken Into Police Custody (http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9424056/aaron-hernandez-new-england-patriots-taken-police-custody)
New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was taken into custody by police Wednesday morning in North Attleborough, Mass.

Hernandez, wearing a white T-shirt, long red athletic shorts and black sneakers, was led from the front door of his mansion with handcuffs behind his back and placed into a police cruiser, which quickly drove away.

Hernandez remains at the center of an investigation involving the shooting death of 27-year-old acquaintance Odin Lloyd.

State police officers and dogs had searched Hernandez's home for more than 3½ hours Saturday.
ABC News on Friday reported that authorities were expected to execute an arrest warrant at some point for Hernandez for obstruction of justice.

Michael Fee, an attorney for Hernandez, released a statement Monday night that read:

"Over the past week, our client, Aaron Hernandez, has been the subject of a relentless flood of rumors, misinformation, and false reports in the media. These include the repeated publication of a supposedly confirmed report that an arrest warrant had been issued for Aaron, a report that was exposed as untrue.

"None of these false reports come from official sources and we appreciate the professionalism and restraint shown by the Bristol County District Attorney's Office to date with regard to its public statements while its investigation is underway. Out of respect for that ongoing investigation, we will continue to refrain from commenting on its substance."

The arrest warrant was prepared last week after police discovered that the security system at Hernandez's home, along with his cellphone, were destroyed, sources told ABC News.

Surveillance video from the neighborhood shows Hernandez with Lloyd and two other people hours before Lloyd was killed last week, sources confirmed to ABC News late Thursday.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 09:16 AM
protect the shield Roger!

and away he goes

http://bit.ly/19tacrT

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/sportingscene/aaron-hernandez-580.jpeg

Vis
06-26-2013, 09:27 AM
They brought dogs?

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 09:36 AM
They brought dogs?

Maybe the police dogs arrested the Hernandez dog that lived in this dog mansion in the back yard as a co-conspirator?

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT805Wf1vsWjSRFUWevq1anzTXGt-Cr5q7mM9jCzTFX-9aTW0IN

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 09:37 AM
cuffed and stuffed like an ordinary street thug


Will the gag order prevent us from finding out if it's for obstruction or the big one?

Lokki
06-26-2013, 09:39 AM
Now is the time for those knock off jersey makers to make an orange jumpsuit Hernandez throwback jersey. Come on weiketrade or whatever it is.. The ball is in your court! Make it so!

JonM229
06-26-2013, 09:48 AM
Was he too lazy to put his arms through his sleeves when they arrested him, or is it normal to cuff people under their shirt?

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 09:50 AM
they caught him before he could grab his hoodie to pull over his face

Lokki
06-26-2013, 09:51 AM
Was he too lazy to put his arms through his sleeves when they arrested him, or is it normal to cuff people under their shirt?

They didn't want him to smash any cameras on the way to the car.

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 09:52 AM
Attorney for Aaron Hernandez finally speaks up


NORTH ATTLEBOROUGH, Mass. — As a week-old homicide investigation swirls around Aaron Hernandez, who remains in seclusion, the lawyer who represented former Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis in a murder trial in 2000 said Monday that he thought police "are trying to make a murder case on Hernandez by methodically putting all the pieces together."

And while Atlanta attorney Ed Garland insisted he was not second-guessing the New England Patriots tight end's legal team, he thought Hernandez's attorney, Michael Fee, had to speak publicly. Garland's message was simple: Tell the public not to jump to conclusions — and keep telling them.

"At some point, I would be aggressive to state my client's innocence," Garland told USA TODAY Sports. "If all that comes out is negative, it can have an effect on the potential jury. You can't have the public hear one side for too long.

"I can't tell him what to do, because I'm not on the inside. But if you look at what we've done in high-profile cases, I would be inclined to make some statement to the public that says, 'Do not make up your mind until you've heard all the facts.'"...

Garland, who also represented Pittsburgh Steelers star Ben Roethlisberger against sexual assault allegations in 2010, said the defense likely has launched its own investigation.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/patriots/2013/06/24/aaron-hernandez-legal-team/2454221/

Ed Garland and his partner Don Samuel are the go to attorneys for high profile athletes who get into trouble in Georgia

This is the statement Garland issued immediately after being hired by Ben that emphatically said Ben did not commit a crime

Garland said he was confident his client will be exonerated.

"The facts show that there was no criminal activity," the veteran defense attorney told the AJC. "No sexual assault occurred. Ben is completely innocent of any crime. The truth of the events should cause this investigation to end without a criminal charge. I will not go into detail at this time, but will in the future."

http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/roethlisberger-investigation-continues-qbs-lawyers/nQc9B/

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 09:53 AM
fuck his lawyers, I only want to hear what the judge says


We are not releasing the charge against Hernandez until it is presented to the court. Again, he will be arraigned in Attleboro Court today

https://twitter.com/MassStatePolice/status/349883021756874752

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 09:55 AM
cuffed and stuffed like an ordinary street thug

Will the gag order prevent us from finding out if it's for obstruction or the big one?

The charges will be announced when he is arraigned later today

Boston media says DA will also be having a press conference

http://boston.cbslocal.com/live-video/

Now time to move on to other media obsessions as the Supremes announce their decisions in the 2 gay marriage cases in the next few minutes

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 09:55 AM
fuck his lawyers, I only want to hear what the judge says

we won't find out what the charges are till he's arraigned in court later today

Beat me to it:thumbsup:

Vis
06-26-2013, 09:56 AM
Odd that his lawyer didn't take him in to surrender and avoid the arrest at the home. they must not have given any warning.

JonM229
06-26-2013, 09:58 AM
they caught him before he could grab his hoodie to pull over his face

I guess the beanie was out of reach as well

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 10:01 AM
Odd that his lawyer didn't take him in to surrender and avoid the arrest at the home. they must not have given any warning.

Lawyer no doubt offered to surrender at the courthouse if charges were brought since he was making nice with law enforcement in his public statements - DA and cops wanted the perp walk

I doubt Hernandez was a flight risk

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 10:13 AM
Odd that his lawyer didn't take him in to surrender and avoid the arrest at the home. they must not have given any warning.



"Let's go punk , no, you can't put on a shirt and tie, you're coming with us."


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130626-arron-hernandez-hmed-930a.photoblog600.jpg

prediction time...

I say they wouldn't drag him off in cuffs unless they want him for at least a 2nd degree murder charge

Stanley
06-26-2013, 10:15 AM
Tebow just moved up on the TE depth chart.

:thumbsup:

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 10:20 AM
prediction time...

I say they wouldn't drag him off in cuffs unless they want him for at least a 2nd degree murder charge

Vis
06-26-2013, 10:25 AM
Patriots just released him. they didn't say whether the DOMA decision was a factor.

steelax04
06-26-2013, 10:26 AM
"Let's go punk , no, you can't put on a shirt and tie, you're coming with us."


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130626-arron-hernandez-hmed-930a.photoblog600.jpg

prediction time...

I say they wouldn't drag him off in cuffs unless they want him for at least a 2nd degree murder charge

From this picture, I'm guessing they cuffed him without a shirt on and then he probably asked if he could put one on.

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 10:26 AM
prediction time...

I say they wouldn't drag him off in cuffs unless they want him for at least a 2nd degree murder charge

Agree that cuffing someone and dragging them out of the house in a T-shirt would be pretty harsh if the charge is just obstruction - maybe the DA is a Giants fan?

steelax04
06-26-2013, 10:29 AM
Patriots just released him. they didn't say whether the DOMA decision was a factor.

Well, the Boston Globe will have issues with that...


Patriots don’t need to act on Aaron Hernandez yet

By Ben Volin | Globe Staff | June 25, 2013

The Patriots don’t need to make any rash decisions with Aaron Hernandez.

One question I’ve heard a lot since police began questioning Aaron Hernandez in connection with the death of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd last week: When are the Patriots going to say anything about his involvement or take any action against him?

So far, the Patriots have said little, other than the perfunctory statement, “We’re aware of the reports.” And saying anything beyond that at this point doesn’t make sense.

If they show him public support and it turns out that he’s involved in a murder, it makes the team look as if it is supporting a criminal. If the Patriots publicly denounce him and he is cleared of any wrongdoing, they will have demonized a potentially innocent person while possibly straining player-team relations.

Read more...

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/24/need-for-patriots-make-rash-decisions-with-aaron-hernandez/wW4tsNHdz3UNF5DJFNJC4O/story.html

Vis
06-26-2013, 10:31 AM
Patriots release Aaron Hernandez
June 26
6/26/2013 9:28:12 AM

The New England Patriots have announced the release of tight end Aaron Hernandez following his arrest today.

The team issued the following statement: “A young man was murdered last week and we extend our sympathies to the family and friends who mourn his loss. Words cannot express the disappointment we feel knowing that one of our players was arrested as a result of this investigation. We realize that law enforcement investigations into this matter are ongoing. We support their efforts and respect the process. At this time, we believe this transaction is simply the right thing to do.”


http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/35733/Patriots-release-Aaron-Hernandez/Default.aspx

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 10:31 AM
they just washed their hands of his whole mess

teegre
06-26-2013, 10:37 AM
Atlanta Dan... you're on a roll today.

Keep it coming.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 10:40 AM
looks like they're eatin his cap hit

Ross Tucker‏@RossTuckerNFL2m-Aaron Hernandez got a $12.5M signing bonus in August. Likely biggest cap hit for a team ever.

Stanley
06-26-2013, 10:42 AM
Patriots released Hernandez.
The Ravens could use a TE.

:wink02:

OX1947
06-26-2013, 10:44 AM
My guess is the reason he has his shirt that way is to hide the tattoos.

JonM229
06-26-2013, 10:49 AM
Patriots released Hernandez.
The Ravens could use a TE.

:wink02:

We don't need murderers anymore. We've got Pitta and Dickson.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 10:59 AM
So, if he ends up innocent....a team gets a top TE at age 23 for cheap?

He'd look good in....

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:01 AM
Patriots released Hernandez.
The Ravens could use a TE.

:wink02:

The Bengals have already called "Dibs!!!"

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 11:08 AM
The Boston Globe focuses on what really matters

It is unclear how Hernandez’s release will affect the team’s salary cap situation.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/26/patriots-cut-aaron-hernandez/IUh1OmOynjugv1RLCDR5IO/story.html

Vis
06-26-2013, 11:09 AM
Colin Quinn ‏@iamcolinquinn 5s
Isn't it weird that Kraft got Putin's ring and then suddenly "Snowden" ends up in the middle of Russia right when Hernandez gets arrested?

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:11 AM
Postradamus says:
In January of 2014, Taperiots fans will say that the reason that their team was eliminated from the play-offs, is because of the absence of Aaron Herndndez. Gronk shall also be mentioned.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 11:19 AM
It is unclear how Hernandez’s release will affect the team’s salary cap situation.




Pats will take at least a $7.5 million cap charge for Hernandez in 2014

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Vis
06-26-2013, 11:19 AM
He has to go through waivers. Any takers?

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 11:21 AM
He has to go through waivers. Any takers?

Bengals?

they'd have to pick up his salary too

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:21 AM
He has to go through waivers. Any takers?

Innocent: worth every penny. I like him better than Gronk. Ask a DB who is more difficult to cover.

Until the trial is over: no thanks. If rather have the media circus that surrounds Tebow than this type of negative coverage.

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 11:23 AM
Pats will take at least a $7.5 million cap charge for Hernandez in 2014

Because the move comes after June 1, the balance of the cap charge will apply to 2014. That’s $7.5 million in signing bonus money, and possibly another $1.137 million in guaranteed salary. That’s $8.637 million that the Patriots will carry for Hernandez next year.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

Every dark cloud has a silver lining

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 11:41 AM
God...
I'm glad he isn't a Patriot anymore but this cap hit sucks and comes at a time when `4 rings for Brady` is the rallying call of New England, with 5 years left on his contract.
Hope 2014 isn't a wasted one.

Fortunately, we can make due without him, but that cap hit just sucks.

Hernandez is a scum bag. All I can say is, he better be #^@%ing guilty.

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:43 AM
If he's not guilty, he sure was acting "strangely."

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 11:44 AM
Yeah, he's definitely guilty.
#%@$ him.

Piece of shit

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:51 AM
Yeah, he's definitely guilty.
#%@$ him.

Piece of shit

It appears that way. His actions are those of a man who has something to hide. Then again, maybe it was merely just a series of unfortunate events.

Smashing his cell phone: maybe there was a mosquito on it, and he was afraid of getting the West Nile virus.

Erasing his home security: maybe he had been watching "Sex & the City" and didn't want his teammates to find out.

Et cetera.

There might be a reasonable explanation for all of this. Might be... but, not likely.

Fire Haley
06-26-2013, 11:53 AM
at least some little kids in El Salvador will get some clothes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNsmPbYCEAAQSdK.jpg

teegre
06-26-2013, 11:57 AM
at least some little kids in El Salvador will get some clothes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BNsmPbYCEAAQSdK.jpg

It'll match the "Taperiots: SuperBowl XLVI Champions" T-shirts that they already have.

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 11:58 AM
To put a positive spin on this, it fills me with pride as a Patriot fan that our organization acted so swiftly after his arrest and let the league know that we don't care how good he is, or how much releasing him will affect our salary cap - criminals and low lives are not welcome on our football team.

There's the Patriot Way
And there's the Raven Wat.

And i'll take the Patriot Way any day, especially on a sunday, down by the bay, laying in hay, and that is where i'll stay,

teegre
06-26-2013, 12:00 PM
To put a positive spin on this, it fills me with pride as a Patriot fan that our organization acted so swiftly after his arrest and let the league know that we don't care how good he is, or how much releasing him will affect our salary cap - criminals and low lives are not welcome on our football team.

There's the Patriot Way
And there's the Raven Wat.

And i'll take the Patriot Way any day, especially on a sunday, down by the bay, laying in hay, and that is where i'll stay,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sojhjp5y8ZM

JonM229
06-26-2013, 12:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sojhjp5y8ZM

I was thinking of the exact same scene. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

teegre
06-26-2013, 12:08 PM
I was thinking of the exact same scene. GET OUT OF MY HEAD!!!

This happens with Buddha & me all of the time. It appears that you've been infected, as well. LOL

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 12:11 PM
To put a positive spin on this, it fills me with pride as a Patriot fan that our organization acted so swiftly after his arrest and let the league know that we don't care how good he is, or how much releasing him will affect our salary cap - criminals and low lives are not welcome on our football team.

There's the Patriot Way
And there's the Raven Wat.

And i'll take the Patriot Way any day, especially on a sunday, down by the bay, laying in hay, and that is where i'll stay,

:rofl:

^ still sour from january

or you could say the pats way is bailing on a guy before all the evidence is even out yet, atleast let em be charged first before anything.

Media will still ask questions about it, and bill will still give the same answer

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 12:12 PM
Aaron Hernandez is about that life apparently..

Hes got top notch lawyer, he'll end up with a fine for littering,..

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:25 PM
"Let's go punk , no, you can't put on a shirt and tie, you're coming with us."


http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130626-arron-hernandez-hmed-930a.photoblog600.jpg



https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/21345_202071219947994_222132324_n.jpg

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:37 PM
Here's your Aaron Hernandez arraignment live stream:


http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/live

Fire Arians
06-26-2013, 01:44 PM
already cut from the patriots*? what happened to innocent until proven guilty lol

i know the things he did were fishy but at least allow the guy to defend himself in court before damning him

JonM229
06-26-2013, 01:45 PM
already cut from the patriots*? what happened to innocent before proven guilty lol

Fuck you, that's what happened to it :hug:

Fire Arians
06-26-2013, 01:45 PM
Fuck you, that's what happened to it :hug:

:chuckle:

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:45 PM
Here's your Aaron Hernandez arraignment live stream:


http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/live

lol cop just chillin there drinking water,

what time is this suppose to start?

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:47 PM
lol cop just chillin there drinking water,

what time is this suppose to start?

2ish...

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:47 PM
already cut from the patriots*? what happened to innocent until proven guilty lol

i know the things he did were fishy but at least allow the guy to defend himself in court before damning him

loyalty goes right down the crappier.. pats are almost hoping he is guilty. so they dont look so bad, and if he is guilty cant they recoup some of the money?

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:48 PM
loyalty goes right down the crappier.. pats are almost hoping he is guilty. so they dont look so bad, and if he is guilty cant they recoup some of the money?

No if the reports are right, cutting him waived their rights under the CBA to ask for money back.

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:48 PM
2ish...

gotcha.. it does seem strange to even cut him before the charges are even annouced, i understand you wanna take a stand but still atleast let em be charged with something

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 01:49 PM
Here's your Aaron Hernandez arraignment live stream:


http://www.cbssports.com/video/player/live

Thanks - my feed has video of an overweight cop walking around outside a building - sure looks like the outside of most courthouses I have visited :chuckle:

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:49 PM
No if the reports are right, cutting him waived their rights under the CBA to ask for money back.

OO.. do you have a link, i'd like to check it out?

i guess if they held on to him, then they could of got money back?

never know how the cba stuff and contracts ever work

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:50 PM
Thanks - my feed has video of an overweight cop walking around outside a building - sure looks like a courthouse scene:chuckle:

lol it could be NEPATS

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:52 PM
OO.. do you have a link, i'd like to check it out?

i guess if they held on to him, then they could of got money back?

never know how the cba stuff and contracts ever work

@AdamSchefter : By releasing Aaron Hernandez today, Patriots have waived all rights to recoup bonus money or salary through the CBA.

no link. Who knows if he's correct

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 01:54 PM
@AdamSchefter : By releasing Aaron Hernandez today, Patriots have waived all rights to recoup bonus money or salary through the CBA.

no link. Who knows if he's correct

thanks.. gotcha... sad that the cba has to have something about murders in it

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:55 PM
thanks.. gotcha... sad that the cba has to have something about murders in it

I bet it just mentions being waived, not the reason

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 01:55 PM
OO.. do you have a link, i'd like to check it out?

i guess if they held on to him, then they could of got money back?

never know how the cba stuff and contracts ever work

Breakdown of issues relating to Hernandez being cut in this article

The Football and Financial Implications of the Patriots Releasing Aaron Hernandez...

Financially, the ramifications of the move are even murkier. In the short term, the Patriots will have just more than $10 million in dead money hit their cap as a result of cutting Hernandez. Because they released him a mere season after signing him to an extension, $10 million of his $12.5 million signing bonus, which was spread over the seven years in his extension, accelerates into the present. Since Hernandez was released after June 1, the cap hit is spread over two seasons, but combined with guaranteed base salaries for 2013 and 2014, the financial impact is noticeable. The Patriots will have $4.1 million in dead money for Hernandez on their cap this season, with a more painful $8.6 million coming next year.

The Patriots can try to recoup some of the money owed to Hernandez, but it's unlikely to prevent the deal from hitting their salary cap. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport noted that Hernandez's contract does not contain any "failure to perform" clauses that would allow the Patriots to skip out on paying him the remaining $3.25 million due from his signing bonus or his guaranteed base salaries in 2013 ($1.32 million) and 2014 ($1.14 million). According to Rapoport, most Patriots contracts contain such a clause, but Hernandez's deal only holds that to be the case in terms of his workout bonuses, which should save the Patriots a mere $82,000 in 2013 and $500,000 in 2014. The only way the Patriots could save more money would be if another team signed Hernandez, with their payments offsetting some or all of the money the Patriots were otherwise due to pay him.

http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/66991/the-football-and-financial-implications-of-the-patriots-releasing-aaron-hernandez-2

Shrewd move by Hernandez and his agent to have the "failure to perform" clauses of the contract only apply to workout bonuses - Belichick and Kraft got played

Vis
06-26-2013, 01:56 PM
They posted the audio and video of when the cops got to the door to arrest him. Here's the transcript of Hernandez thru the intercom:

Oh, I'm sorry. I can't come to the door right now. I'm afraid that in my weakened condition, I could take a nasty spill down the stairs and subject myself to further school absences. You can reach my parents at their places of business. Thank you for stopping by. I appreciate your concern for my well-being. Have a nice day!

JonM229
06-26-2013, 02:05 PM
They posted the audio and video of when the cops got to the door to arrest him. Here's the transcript of Hernandez thru the intercom:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 02:14 PM
everyone all watching the camera, and he is probably in the court house already, while were watching some traffic cop scratch himself, and a van with no one in it

JonM229
06-26-2013, 02:16 PM
everyone all watching the camera, and he is probably in the court house already, while were watching some traffic cop scratch himself, and a van with no one in it

The NSA just wants you to think nobody's in the van.

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:17 PM
everyone all watching the camera, and he is probably in the court house already, while were watching some traffic cop scratch himself, and a van with no one in it

Audio sounds like a party with an open bar

We are getting near showtime


‏@BostonGlobe

RT @wesleylowery: Odin Lloyd's family being escorted into the courtroom.

https://twitter.com/BostonGlobe/status/349952740702687232

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 02:18 PM
Audio sounds like a party with an open bar

wouldnt surprise me...aaron and tom and gronk all in their with the judges getting drunk and partying 2:30 rolls around, aaron your being charged with farting in public, now get back to the field your fine is 10 extra sprints..

Vis
06-26-2013, 02:23 PM
Nice library. I remember law books. It's been years though

Vis
06-26-2013, 02:25 PM
Try wearing hats in a courtroom in SC

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:26 PM
This video feed must be through an iPhone

Vis
06-26-2013, 02:28 PM
This video feed must be through an iPhone

Confiscate it!

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:28 PM
Like the "no cell phones allowed in lockup" sign on the door:chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:36 PM
The well fed guy in the light blue tie appears to be Hernandez attorney Michael Fee

Is the guy in the pink shirt the other lawyer for Hernandez? Not a good look

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:38 PM
prediction time...

I say they wouldn't drag him off in cuffs unless they want him for at least a 2nd degree murder charge

This attorney agrees

We still don't know everything about the Wednesday morning arrest of Aaron Hernandez, but practicing defense attorney Harvey Steinberg told NFL Network's "NFL AM" he was surprised by how police went about taking the former New England Patriots tight end into custody.

"If it was simply an obstruction (of justice) charge, one would have called his lawyers, and said, 'Look, bring him to the courthouse, surrender him at 9:30 a.m., we'll have an advisement, we'll set bond immediately," Steinberg said. "But instead, they sent (nine) officers over in suits, they had a couple cruisers, and they drove him away, and they made a big show. Now, that's a little unusual for a charge that's not that serious -- I mean it's a serious charge, but nowhere as serious as a murder case."

Said Steinberg, who doesn't represent Hernandez, but has represented NFL players in past court cases: "The fact that they did it the way they did it, suggests to me it's going to be a very, very serious situation. Otherwise, they needlessly humiliated Mr. Hernandez in front of the media. They knew the media was there, and they made a big show by coming over and doing it the way they did. One wouldn't think they would have done this for obstruction."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214827/article/defense-attorney-aaron-hernandez-arrest-a-big-show

Vis
06-26-2013, 02:42 PM
The arms are in the sleeves

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:43 PM
Murder!

New England has its OJ.

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 02:48 PM
http://www.csnne.com/page/live-video

pczach
06-26-2013, 02:49 PM
Yep. You could see things starting to go this way. I figured he would be charged with murder based on the way he was arrested, and some reports late last night as sources in several articles mentioned he would be charged with murder and that there was evidence recovered that was not known by the public.

Vis
06-26-2013, 02:50 PM
premeditated execution by the way they spelled it out.

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 02:50 PM
Aaron Hernandez's lawyers should probably advise him not to make "I want to kill you" eyes at the prosecutor.

https://twitter.com/sportspickle/status/349961506655440896

Fire Arians
06-26-2013, 02:59 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-15liGfZkhVc/UFemxlw27gI/AAAAAAAAGwc/I-9F-AzKU8U/s1600/tumblr_lsntmaUXpT1qa9w04o1_500.jpg

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 03:00 PM
This evidence looks to be OVERWHELMING.

If you were thinking about signing Hernandez, you might have to wait 50 years or so.
Unless he gets a scumbag lawyer who can force a mistrial or somthing, it loks like Ahern is finished.

Vis
06-26-2013, 03:00 PM
They have a few clues

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 03:06 PM
so whats the deal with the other 2 dudes that were with him? havent heard much about them, unless I just missed it. so hes charged with murder, his lawyers will say well you got this evidence but can you prove he pulled the trigger and not one of his home boys. blah blah blah.



"Welcome to the Family"

Signed Raymond Lewis and Orange Juice Simpson,
Co-Signed by Rae Carruth, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 03:06 PM
They have a few clues

Sounds like somebody already flipped

Dino 6 Rings
06-26-2013, 03:06 PM
couldn't happen to a better Franchise....FCK BOSTON!

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 03:07 PM
so whats the deal with the other 2 dudes that were with him? havent heard much about them, unless I just missed it. so hes charged with murder, his lawyers will say well you got this evidence but can you prove he pulled the trigger and not one of his home boys. blah blah blah.



"Welcome to the Family"

Signed Raymond Lewis and Orange Juice Simpson,
Co-Signed by Rae Carruth, Leonard Little and Donte Stallworth

At least one of them cut a deal

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 03:09 PM
At least one of them cut a deal

only rae went to jail for murder, and now oj for stealing autos.


i think rae is suppose to get out with in the next 10 years or so..


This Aaron thing of course its a big deal cause of the murder, but its a bigger deal now with social media, will probably end with the same song and dance

pczach
06-26-2013, 03:11 PM
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTgU3cIxseI-tJUtg2Bad3NXg97uYen4RZ8Jn2oVBeP5RkFCcknjA

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 03:12 PM
Well at least Massachusetts does not have the death penalty - so that's good news

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 03:14 PM
Judge denied bail.

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 03:16 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ray-lewis--tale-of-redemption-provides-glimmer-of-hope-for-aaron-hernandez-after-arrest-135543526.html

Vis
06-26-2013, 03:17 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ray-lewis--tale-of-redemption-provides-glimmer-of-hope-for-aaron-hernandez-after-arrest-135543526.html

Definitely written by a sports writer

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 03:19 PM
Definitely written by a sports writer

anytime you hear murder charge with an nfl player its gonna be Ray Lewis will be brought up... and you throw Rays' name in anything = views, views= cash

Atlanta Dan
06-26-2013, 03:19 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--ray-lewis--tale-of-redemption-provides-glimmer-of-hope-for-aaron-hernandez-after-arrest-135543526.html

Ray Lewis was prosecuted by clown Fulton County, Georgia, DA Paul Howard - Hernandez may have the bad luck to be prosecuted by someone competent

PATS16N0
06-26-2013, 03:23 PM
Aaron was putting on a strong face until the judge denied him bail, then over the next five minutes you could see reality begin to set in and he looked scared.

I think they have him.

Just a tragic story.

JonM229
06-26-2013, 03:24 PM
Tragic for Odin Lloyd

tony hipchest
06-26-2013, 03:24 PM
To put a positive spin on this, it fills me with pride as a Patriot fan that our organization acted so swiftly after his arrest and let the league know that we don't care how good he is, or how much releasing him will affect our salary cap - criminals and low lives are not welcome on our football team.

There's the Patriot Way
And there's the Raven Wat.

And i'll take the Patriot Way any day, especially on a sunday, down by the bay, laying in hay, and that is where i'll stay,please...

theres no difference between the patriots and ravens.

the patriots were the first team mentioned as probable suitors when it was thought ray lewis would leave the ravens a year or so ago.

the patriots love killers.

d. stallworth- killed pedestrian
j. seau- killed self
a. hernandez- killed friend

ebsteelers
06-26-2013, 03:25 PM
Aaron was putting on a strong face until the judge denied him bail, then over the next five minutes you could see reality begin to set in and he looked scared.

I think they have him.

Just a tragic story.

probably figured he was gonna have bail set at like a million bucks and get out no problem

JonM229
06-26-2013, 03:25 PM
Stallworth's first team after his arrest was the Ravens