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Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:03 PM
exactly alleged gangsta buddies, if they were his gangsta buddies one of them would of already taken the fall for it.

its not just the media, its how much of a public figure he is.. you dont think they have cops surrounding his street now?

its not like its (no offense)buddha bus walking down the street. or that mexican kid i posted above.

even if he attempted to flee he'd be caught fairly quickly and pretty much anywhere he fleed he'd be brought back as soon as he is caught... and a majority of his money is probably in the bank, which would make it difficult to get out of your account..

Who says he'd even go home if released? He could head right for an (alleged) gang safe house and find a way out from there.

And do you really think a gang banger would "take the fall" for someone else's crime? There's no honor among thieves, EB. You couldn't even bribe them for millions because what good would it do them if they were locked up for life? A drug charge, maybe. Premeditated murder execution-style, not so much.

I'm sure he could find a way is all. As you stated, there are terrorists, as well as illegal immigrants, passing freely between borders here every single day. I'm sure a famous football player with stacks of cash to buy his way out wouldn't have too much difficulty.

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 03:08 PM
Who says he'd even go home if released? He could head right for an (alleged) gang safe house and find a way out from there.
And do you really think a gang banger would "take the fall" for someone else's crime? There's no honor among thieves, EB. You couldn't even bribe them for millions because what good would it do them if they were locked up for life? A drug charge, maybe. Premeditated murder execution-style, not so much.

I'm sure he could find a way is all. As you stated, there are terrorists, as well as illegal immigrants, passing freely between borders here every single day. I'm sure a famous football player with stacks of cash to buy his way out wouldn't have too much difficulty.

Like i said before i think your really reaching with that.(allege gang house). but will agree to disagree

and I know terrorist and immigrants can get around the U.S. the difference is they arent famous.. you said it yourself famous football player.

On 9/10/01, and of those guys who crashed the planes were known terrorist to the govt but not to everyday people.
but if ray lewis was next to you in line, 99 out of 100 people would know him or would recongize him. and thats the difference

Atlanta Dan
06-27-2013, 03:14 PM
Who says he'd even go home if released? He could head right for an (alleged) gang safe house and find a way out from there.


If he got bail it would be with home confinement and an ankle bracelet to monitor his whereabouts

Not surprisingly there is an industry built up around this

http://www.gpsmonitoring.com/images/4page_img1.jpg

Utilize GPS Monitoring as a negotiating tool in the bail reduction process as a condition of release.

The courts may set specific conditions of bail, including the use of a house arrest / gps monitoring device. Don't lose out on bail and get on board today!

http://www.gpsmonitoring.com/bail.html

But given the publicity there is no way the court would risk Hernandez getting out until trial

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:15 PM
Like i said before i think your really reaching with that.(allege gang house). but will agree to disagree

and I know terrorist and immigrants can get around the U.S. the difference is they arent famous.. you said it yourself famous football player.

On 9/10/01, and of those guys who crashed the planes were known terrorist to the govt but not to everyday people.
but if ray lewis was next to you in line, 99 out of 100 people would know him or would recongize him. and thats the difference

I'm not saying he's gonna flee to the nearest airport and try to hop a plane for all to see. If he is affiliated with a gang, as has been widely reported now (so that's not a stretch), they could aid in smuggling him out of the country in a similar fashion to how illegal immigrants and terrorists are able to come and go freely. They could possibly have a network for just such things. Not saying it's probable, just that it's possible. Running to the Greyhound station across from the county lockup would NOT be an option and I'm not saying that.

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:25 PM
If he got bail it would be with home confinement and an ankle bracelet to monitor his whereabouts

Not surprisingly there is an industry built up around this

http://www.gpsmonitoring.com/images/4page_img1.jpg

Utilize GPS Monitoring as a negotiating tool in the bail reduction process as a condition of release.

The courts may set specific conditions of bail, including the use of a house arrest / gps monitoring device. Don't lose out on bail and get on board today!

http://www.gpsmonitoring.com/bail.html

But given the publicity there is no way the court would risk Hernandez getting out until trial

Good point, but is that a certainty that he'd be fixed with an ankle bracelet? I assume you may be right and that would make things infinitely more difficult if not downright impossible.

Personally, I think they should just throw him in a prison yard full of some other maniacs and slap these things on 'em.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZesS-EUP6E

Atlanta Dan
06-27-2013, 03:27 PM
Good point, but is that a certainty that he'd be fixed with an ankle bracelet? I assume you may be right and that would make things infinitely more difficult if not downright impossible.

If your bail is conditioned on home confinement the ankle bracelet is part of the package(at least for federal court)

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:29 PM
If your bail is conditioned on home confinement the ankle bracelet is part of the package(at least for federal court)

Thanks for blowing a giant hole in my theory, Dan. :chuckle:

Now... let's see what we can do about getting one of those exploding neck collars. I'd be for letting him out on bail under those conditions. :thumbsup:

Vis
06-27-2013, 03:38 PM
I'm not saying he's gonna flee to the nearest airport and try to hop a plane for all to see. If he is affiliated with a gang, as has been widely reported now (so that's not a stretch), they could aid in smuggling him out of the country in a similar fashion to how illegal immigrants and terrorists are able to come and go freely. They could possibly have a network for just such things. Not saying it's probable, just that it's possible. Running to the Greyhound station across from the county lockup would NOT be an option and I'm not saying that.

Hong Kong then Russia

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 03:39 PM
If your bail is conditioned on home confinement the ankle bracelet is part of the package(at least for federal court)

Thanks for blowing a giant hole in my theory, Dan. :chuckle:

Now... let's see what we can do about getting one of those exploding neck collars. I'd be for letting him out on bail under those conditions. :thumbsup:

Buddha, apparently Atlanta Dan is a gangsta and been out on bail before.

Dont mess with him..


Rumor has it: back in 88 he had an exploding neck collar on , and he ripped it off with one bit, threw it to the ground and said fuck the police...

Atlanta Dan
06-27-2013, 03:41 PM
Buddha, apparently Atlanta Dan is a gangsta and been out on bail before.

Dont mess with him..

Rumor has it: back in 88 he had an exploding neck collar on , and he ripped it off with one bit, threw it to the ground and said fuck the police...

Actually I am in the witness protection program :chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
06-27-2013, 03:45 PM
Looks like the Hernandez mess may have smacked the sanctimony out of some Pats fans if this tweet from long time Boston homer Sports Guy Bill Simmons is any indication

@BillSimmons
Took an hour-long shower trying to wash off 3 years of rooting for Aaron Hernandez.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/350257580037255168

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:47 PM
Looks like the Hernandez mess may have smacked the sanctimony out of some Pats fans if this tweet from long time Boston homer Sports Guy Bill Simmons is any indication

@BillSimmons
Took an hour-long shower trying to wash off 3 years of rooting for Aaron Hernandez.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/350257580037255168

Give them about 3 seconds. They'll come around.

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 03:48 PM
Give them about 3 seconds. They'll come around.

you mean come september when marsha hits the field?

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:49 PM
Hong Kong then Russia


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyp9fh-u4w8

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 03:49 PM
Looks like the Hernandez mess may have smacked the sanctimony out of some Pats fans if this tweet from long time Boston homer Sports Guy Bill Simmons is any indication

@BillSimmons
Took an hour-long shower trying to wash off 3 years of rooting for Aaron Hernandez.

https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/350257580037255168

hes always one for being over dramatic... did the same belly aching about doc rivers since hes a celtics guy,, yet he has season tickets to the clippers..

Atlanta Dan
06-27-2013, 03:50 PM
Thanks for blowing a giant hole in my theory, Dan. :chuckle:

Now... let's see what we can do about getting one of those exploding neck collars. I'd be for letting him out on bail under those conditions. :thumbsup:

Well Hernandez might also need to be denied Internet access so he cannot learn how to cut off the ankle bracelet:chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nialfb2Gtf4

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:50 PM
you mean come september when marsha hits the field?

No, I mean literally 3 seconds from now when they remember they are Bostonians and are required by Massachusetts state law to be obnoxious douchebags.

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:51 PM
Well Hernandez might also need to be denied Internet access so he cannot learn how to cut off the ankle bracelet:chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nialfb2Gtf4

Looks like my theory has new life! :wink02:

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 03:52 PM
Buddha, apparently Atlanta Dan is a gangsta and been out on bail before.

Dont mess with him..


Rumor has it: back in 88 he had an exploding neck collar on , and he ripped it off with one bit, threw it to the ground and said fuck the police...

I hear he's the only man that that rotten-ass Bagz fears. Now THAT'S some street cred.

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 04:33 PM
No, I mean literally 3 seconds from now when they remember they are Bostonians and are required by Massachusetts state law to be obnoxious douchebags.

WUT DA' FUCK YOU TALKIN' BOUT, BRO? BOSTON IS WICKED AWESOME!

Hey Mods, can I change my screen name to the screen name I use every where else or am I locked into NEPatriots?

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 04:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqffDwfu-1w

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Foto3/ClamChowder.jpg

http://www.davesfootballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/patriots-snow-celebration.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7386/358/1600/yankeesSuckKid.jpg

Get some

MACH1
06-27-2013, 04:39 PM
WUT DA' FUCK YOU TALKIN' BOUT, BRO? BOSTON IS WICKED AWESOME!

Hey Mods, can I change my screen name to the screen name I use every where else or am I locked into NEPatriots?

TomBradyKnobSlober




:toofunny::toofunny:


I suppose you can, not sure if I have that superpower though.

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 04:41 PM
Who would have the powah'?

teegre
06-27-2013, 04:44 PM
WUT DA' FUCK YOU TALKIN' BOUT, BRO? BOSTON IS WICKED AWESOME!

Hey Mods, can I change my screen name to the screen name I use every where else or am I locked into NEPatriots?

AHiswickedawesome

Hernandez/Zimmerman16

Bluecottoncandybubblegum

MACH1
06-27-2013, 04:46 PM
Who would have the powah'?

What is it I can give it a try.

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 04:48 PM
What is it I can give it a try.

PATS16N0

Capital letters please :)

Thanks

teegre
06-27-2013, 04:49 PM
http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/QI3pUTrWkAw5aGN5UJcQOA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNDI7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/Reuters/2013-06-26T205840Z_255614794_GM1E96R0DPD01_RTRMADP_3_USA-PATRIOTS-HERNANDEZ.JPG

I think I may f***ed up

CAPTION THIS:

"Guess the flavor of my gum. No peeking."

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 04:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqffDwfu-1w

http://whatscookingamerica.net/Foto3/ClamChowder.jpg

http://www.davesfootballblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/patriots-snow-celebration.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7386/358/1600/yankeesSuckKid.jpg

Get some

I'll take the Murphy's and clam chowder, you can keep the rest. :chuckle:

MACH1
06-27-2013, 04:50 PM
PATS16N0

Capital letters please :)

Thanks

Done

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 04:52 PM
Done

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-tgHqDXFxL70/UVxqXUSbelI/AAAAAAAAFGs/IDz8Vl7fOu4/s640/fist-pump-baby.jpeg

Thanks!

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 04:52 PM
AHiswickedawesome

Hernandez/Zimmerman16

Bluecottoncandybubblegum



Annoyingaccent215?

PeepingTom?

CameraMan?

ITuckIt69?

MACH1
06-27-2013, 04:55 PM
Annoyingaccent215?

PeepingTom?

CameraMan?

ITuckIt69?

No, no, no they gots to be all be caps. :chuckle:

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 04:58 PM
No, no, no they gots to be all be caps. :chuckle:

Aren't they annoying enough without that?

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 05:01 PM
So.... PATS16N0, huh? Shouldn't that be PATS18N1*.... the updated version.

PATS16N0
06-27-2013, 05:02 PM
So.... PATS16N0, huh? Shouldn't that be PATS18N1*.... the updated version.

lol. Everyone calls me PATS18N1. I was wondering how many posts it would take here.

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 05:03 PM
lol. Everyone calls me PATS18N1. I was wondering how many posts it would take here.

You ain't sneakin' that one by me, buster.

teegre
06-27-2013, 05:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxmCdRkCEU0

Aaron Hernandez???

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 05:35 PM
lol. Everyone calls me PATS18N1. I was wondering how many posts it would take here.

i thought for a second we had another dickhead pats fan, till i saw this thread and realized its just you!!!

MACH1
06-27-2013, 06:10 PM
i thought for a second we had another dickhead pats fan, till i saw this thread and realized its just you!!!

Nope it's the same dickhead. :sofunny:

pczach
06-27-2013, 06:18 PM
I hear he's the only man that that rotten-ass Bagz fears. Now THAT'S some street cred.

Bagz fears no man....well....maybe one....

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o133/jlnleveque/funny_1.gif

pczach
06-27-2013, 06:40 PM
Annoyingaccent215?

PeepingTom?

CameraMan?

ITuckIt69?

TommyHasSoftHands

WeAlmostWent19-0

WhyDoIGoToSteelersBoards

PatriotDeath

Murdergate

NEBradyLickers

PatsRCheats

EternalPatsFanUntilBradyRetires

OurDivisionIsAJoke

Camera'sRUs

AtLeastOurPlayersKillOtherPlayers

IsMurderSuspendable

BestTeamEver4TwelveYears

BelichickTapedHernandezMurder

GoHairCareProducts!

HernandezOwnedUs2013

WTFHappened

CryMeARiver

FuckMeSideways

TEProblemsRus

DominateOn3

Swalloweditwhole

EndofAnEraFirearms

GunsNbubblegum

HeIsInnocentUntilFuckMe

Myasshurtsalready

Fire Arians
06-27-2013, 06:58 PM
BelichickTapedHernandezMurder


:chuckle:

Buddha Bus
06-27-2013, 08:22 PM
What about:

UggsBootsLover

BieberCut16

AHernwasframed

WhothehellisSteveGrogan

IfonlyGronkhadplayed

Kraftmacaroni&saycheese

pczach
06-27-2013, 08:49 PM
WhatThehellisaMurf?

Gronkalicious

TilDeathdoUsPart

9yearsWithoutAfuckingLombardi

GiselewantsMeNot

TheSuperiorIntellect

BelichickIsGodInaHoodie

Patswalkonwater

PatsLuv4ever

DraftingInmates

hellofagoodchowderhead

ExCaliber81

RomancingTheSTonEd

PrisonPreschool

Bayz101
06-27-2013, 08:57 PM
Tried signing up for the Pats fans message board. Only problem was the Security question.

http://i78.servimg.com/u/f78/17/43/47/64/lol10.png

I thought I did well. :huh: :chuckle:

MACH1
06-27-2013, 09:41 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBJpBJ4NTx4upRTxUpwmGs68-S3uu0L-UIgeLvcNhY8WUdd3ekfQ

ebsteelers
06-27-2013, 11:26 PM
has a sports town ever had as bad a week as this one in boston?

celtics lose garnett, pierce rivers,


pats well not much needs to be said


bruins lose a heartbreaker for the cup


the lone bright spot would be the red sox, but its only june

teegre
06-28-2013, 12:53 AM
I'm kind of partial to this username:

aaronhernandezboughtsomegumandthendroveodonlloydto abusinessparkandkilledhimincoldblood

Buddha Bus
06-28-2013, 04:10 AM
Or:

CheatersAlwaysWinExceptAgainstEli

BeantownBeanbag

I'mFilmingYouRightNow

We'dHaveBeatTheBearsIn'86IfGronkHadPlayed

GoForItOn4thAnd2

RichardShermanHurtsMyFeelings

18&1Choke

AdulterousBelichick2006

HoboChicCoach

BradyWantsAFlagForBeingTouched

ChowderChoker'07

Buddha Bus
06-28-2013, 04:14 AM
And back on topic so I don't get scolded by the "owner" of this thread:


Ex-Patriot Aaron Hernandez's mom: He'll be cleared
By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: June 27, 2013 at 07:33 p.m.

Aaron Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., still is coming to grips with the ugly events of this week.

Now PlayingNFL AudioATL Debate Club: Aaron Hernandez recap
Bristol is where Hernandez grew up and where the former New England Patriots tight end was named the high school football player of the year for Connecticut. That glory came long before he was charged Wednesday with first-degree murder in the death of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd.

Hernandez's mother, Terri Hernandez, still lives in Bristol and believes her son is innocent.

"All I can say is that he will be cleared of all these charges in the end," Terri told The Bristol Press on Wednesday. "Just let it play out until the end."

Those comments came hours before her son's Wednesday arraignment and one day before Hernandez's bail appeal was denied by Massachusetts Superior Court Judge Renee Dupuis.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000215236/article/expatriot-aaron-hernandezs-mom-hell-be-cleared

Buddha Bus
06-28-2013, 04:18 AM
Ex-Patriots TE Aaron Hernandez's bail appeal denied
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
Published: June 27, 2013 at 02:49 p.m. Updated: June 27, 2013 at 08:20 p.m.

Former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez will remain in jail after Massachusetts Superior Court Judge Renee Dupuis denied his bail appeal Thursday.

Dupuis was not convinced Hernandez wouldn't be a flight risk, thus denying the bail request. She also pointed to the evidence presented by the prosecutors.


"The Commonwealth have presented a case that (is) circumstantial, to be sure, but very, very strong," Dupuis said.

In another development, the Boston Police Department on Thursday became the third police agency to visit the Hernandez home in the last week and a half.

Hernandez on Wednesday was charged with first-degree murder in the death of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd during an arraignment in Attleboro District Court. He was ordered to be held without bail at the Bristol County House of Correction and Jail in North Dartmouth, Mass.

In addition to first-degree murder, Hernandez's case includes the following charges: one count of carrying a firearm without a license, two counts of possession of a large capacity firearm and two counts of possession of a firearm without a valid identification card.

(Read More:) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000214854/article/expatriots-te-aaron-hernandezs-bail-appeal-denied

__________________________________________________ ______________________


Apparently, the judge doesn't seem to think it would be as impossible for him to flee as some would suggest.

pczach
06-28-2013, 05:09 AM
has a sports town ever had as bad a week as this one in boston?

celtics lose garnett, pierce rivers,


pats well not much needs to be said


bruins lose a heartbreaker for the cup


the lone bright spot would be the red sox, but its only june



There's plenty of time left to squeeze in a few more murders this year.

Vis
06-28-2013, 07:42 AM
Hernandez cleared waivers so he's finally free

PATS16N0
06-28-2013, 11:57 AM
And back on topic so I don't get scolded by the "owner" of this thread:


Ex-Patriot Aaron Hernandez's mom: He'll be cleared
By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: June 27, 2013 at 07:33 p.m.

Aaron Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., still is coming to grips with the ugly events of this week.

Now PlayingNFL AudioATL Debate Club: Aaron Hernandez recap
Bristol is where Hernandez grew up and where the former New England Patriots tight end was named the high school football player of the year for Connecticut. That glory came long before he was charged Wednesday with first-degree murder in the death of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd.

Hernandez's mother, Terri Hernandez, still lives in Bristol and believes her son is innocent.

"All I can say is that he will be cleared of all these charges in the end," Terri told The Bristol Press on Wednesday. "Just let it play out until the end."

Those comments came hours before her son's Wednesday arraignment and one day before Hernandez's bail appeal was denied by Massachusetts Superior Court Judge Renee Dupuis.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000215236/article/expatriot-aaron-hernandezs-mom-hell-be-cleared

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eVqdnDk02Y

cubanstogie
06-28-2013, 11:59 AM
Hernandez cleared waivers so he's finally free

I think the Ravens should snatch him up , they lost their murderer at the end of last season.

tony hipchest
06-28-2013, 12:07 PM
Actually I am in the witness protection program :chuckle:

Kansas Dan exposes himself...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmMRaUX-QSM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_W0B6xMqo

Fire Arians
06-28-2013, 12:29 PM
And back on topic so I don't get scolded by the "owner" of this thread:


Ex-Patriot Aaron Hernandez's mom: He'll be cleared
By Marc Sessler
Around the League Writer
Published: June 27, 2013 at 07:33 p.m.

Aaron Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., still is coming to grips with the ugly events of this week.

Now PlayingNFL AudioATL Debate Club: Aaron Hernandez recap
Bristol is where Hernandez grew up and where the former New England Patriots tight end was named the high school football player of the year for Connecticut. That glory came long before he was charged Wednesday with first-degree murder in the death of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd.

Hernandez's mother, Terri Hernandez, still lives in Bristol and believes her son is innocent.

"All I can say is that he will be cleared of all these charges in the end," Terri told The Bristol Press on Wednesday. "Just let it play out until the end."

Those comments came hours before her son's Wednesday arraignment and one day before Hernandez's bail appeal was denied by Massachusetts Superior Court Judge Renee Dupuis.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000215236/article/expatriot-aaron-hernandezs-mom-hell-be-cleared

Well folks, momma's wrong again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfC4u5GCy3I

ebsteelers
06-28-2013, 01:15 PM
Swamped at work today but wanted to stop by and see if anyone wants a pieces ?

http://o.static-rs.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2013/06/26/062613_Laces_Out_Bubblicious_PI_CH_201306261818582 84_600_400.JPG

JonM229
06-28-2013, 01:22 PM
Swamped at work today but wanted to stop by and see if anyone wants a pieces ?

http://o.static-rs.foxsports.com/content/fscom/img/2013/06/26/062613_Laces_Out_Bubblicious_PI_CH_201306261818582 84_600_400.JPG

Nobody touch that gum! He just wants your fingerprints on it

ebsteelers
06-28-2013, 01:30 PM
Nobody touch that gum! He just wants your fingerprints on it

http://politicalpaige.net/web_images/obama-shh.jpg



https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/1120362240/h158410D8/

Stanley
06-28-2013, 01:37 PM
Just heard on the news that the cops have arrested the third guy that they were looking for.
Ernest Wallace is in custody.

:applaudit:

Atlanta Dan
06-28-2013, 01:54 PM
Just heard on the news that the cops have arrested the third guy that they were looking for.
Ernest Wallace is in custody.

:applaudit:

They picked him up in Florida.

Police in Florida have arrested a third man linked to the death of Odin Lloyd.

Massachusetts State Police said that Ernest Wallace was arrested in Miramar, Fla. Friday afternoon.

The 41-year-old Wallace is accused of being an accessory after the fact in the murder of 27-year-old Odin Lloyd, of Dorchester.

http://wfxt.images.worldnow.com/images/22715587_BG1.jpg

http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/22715587/ernest-wallace-arrested-in-florida

Another nice guy. Wonder if Wallace and Hernandez have ties from the days when Hernandez was a Gator?

OX1947
06-28-2013, 02:13 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eVqdnDk02Y

I've seen Goodfellas over 200 times in my lifetime, i would estimate. And I am still trying to figure out why Tommy's mother would keep a shovel in the house?

Buddha Bus
06-28-2013, 03:53 PM
I've seen Goodfellas over 200 times in my lifetime, i would estimate. And I am still trying to figure out why Tommy's mother would keep a shovel in the house?

Self-defense from matricide? :noidea:

Fire Haley
06-28-2013, 05:37 PM
Good news Pats fans! - Patriots will replace Hernandez jerseys you bought


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)

The New England Patriots are offering a new jersey to all fans who want to get rid of the one they bought with Aaron Hernandez's name on it.

The team has released him and taken all Hernandez jerseys off the shelf at its souvenir store at Gillette Stadium.

The team says fans can come to their store at the stadium on the weekend of July 6-7 for a free jersey of comparable value.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Patriots-offer-trade-for-Aaron-Hernandez-jerseys-35498481

--------------------

the bad news is all they have left is Tebow jerseys!

haha

OX1947
06-28-2013, 05:39 PM
Good news Pats fans! - Patriots will replace Hernandez jerseys you bought


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)

The New England Patriots are offering a new jersey to all fans who want to get rid of the one they bought with Aaron Hernandez's name on it.

The team has released him and taken all Hernandez jerseys off the shelf at its souvenir store at Gillette Stadium.

The team says fans can come to their store at the stadium on the weekend of July 6-7 for a free jersey of comparable value.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Patriots-offer-trade-for-Aaron-Hernandez-jerseys-35498481

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the bad news is all they have left is Tebow jerseys!

haha

But what if your name IS Hernandez? That's messed up.

jacobo
06-28-2013, 05:50 PM
his jersey sales on ebay are going up right now lol

cubanstogie
06-28-2013, 05:53 PM
Good news Pats fans! - Patriots will replace Hernandez jerseys you bought


FOXBOROUGH, Mass. (AP)

The New England Patriots are offering a new jersey to all fans who want to get rid of the one they bought with Aaron Hernandez's name on it.

The team has released him and taken all Hernandez jerseys off the shelf at its souvenir store at Gillette Stadium.

The team says fans can come to their store at the stadium on the weekend of July 6-7 for a free jersey of comparable value.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Patriots-offer-trade-for-Aaron-Hernandez-jerseys-35498481

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the bad news is all they have left is Tebow jerseys!

haha
very classy, especially considering they are a bunch of cheaters.

MasterOfPuppets
06-28-2013, 06:43 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y217/smitty46953/HernandezJersey_zps4a0487d1.jpg

MACH1
06-28-2013, 07:32 PM
http://d3fsqtc6sy2z27.cloudfront.net/uploads/fd2e91f18ac631a5b01fb042cfa01cc2_large

ebsteelers
06-28-2013, 08:16 PM
http://hiphopwired.com/2013/06/27/the-top-15-most-hilarious-slanderous-aaron-hernandez-memes-photos/


made its the liquor but these memes in the link are special!!!

ebsteelers
06-28-2013, 08:19 PM
pretty good too

http://elitedaily.com/humor/the-best-of-aaron-hernandez-memes/

the ray lewis ones are hilarious

Buddha Bus
06-29-2013, 07:48 AM
http://d3fsqtc6sy2z27.cloudfront.net/uploads/fd2e91f18ac631a5b01fb042cfa01cc2_large


This image is missing a 6'-5", 285 pound inmate named Bubba behind him with his pants around his ankles.

Atlanta Dan
06-29-2013, 08:52 AM
You knew this was coming - the Hernandez mess shows what a superior organization the Pats are:banging:

Patriots Put Principles on Display

The moment the police led Aaron Hernandez away in handcuffs, he became expendable to the New England Patriots, despite the millions of guaranteed dollars that remained on his contract and the long legal process yet to play out.

With his arrest this week on murder charges, Hernandez had become the worst kind of distraction. And the Patriots, perhaps more than any organization in professional sports, do not deal in distraction, major or minor.

This was not another example to debunk the so-called Patriot Way, though, not another shot at the dour coach in his hooded sweatshirts and the organization ensnarled in a videotape scandal known as Spygate a few years back. It was, instead, an example of the Patriot Way at work. ...

Perhaps another N.F.L. team would have waited for Hernandez to stand trial, for the legal system — innocent until proven guilty — to run its course. Those teams would have released a statement to that end. The Patriots instead released Hernandez, their tight end, hours after his arrest.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/29/sports/football/patriots-stick-to-their-principles-with-hernandez-release.html?ref=sports

All Hail The Patriot Way:thumbsup:

pczach
06-29-2013, 11:15 AM
Can these people get over themselves? What a bunch of elitist, Patriot ass kissers. Can any of these chowderheads say or do anything without telling the world they're smarter and more enlightened than everyone else.

:banging:

Vis
06-30-2013, 05:39 PM
I like the jersey swap idea.

Atlanta Dan
06-30-2013, 06:04 PM
I like the jersey swap idea.

Agreed - It's a smart PR move and gives parents a good way to get rid of the damn Hernandez jersey without having to lay out the $$$ for a new one

Blackout
06-30-2013, 08:03 PM
Get fucked, Aaron Hernandez.

Atlanta Dan
06-30-2013, 08:17 PM
Get fucked, Aaron Hernandez.

That's harsh - former Pat Deion Branch thinks he's "a great guy"

“Aaron is a great guy and a great friend of mine and a great teammate,” Branch told The Herald “I love him to death, and it was shocking to hear his name involved in this situation. I truly hope and pray he doesn’t have any dealings with it.”...

“That’s my guy, man,” Branch said of Hernandez. “That’s my guy. It really shocked me. He was a great kid."

http://tracking.si.com/2013/06/30/deion-branch-defends-aaron-hernandez/?sct=uk_t2_a3

http://www.albanyherald.com/news/2013/jun/29/branch-speaks-out-calls-embattled-former-teammate-/?sports

Blackout
06-30-2013, 08:30 PM
Harsh? He could have saved 'Em, from what I have read.

Vis
06-30-2013, 08:55 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1044949_203648076456975_1789039954_n.png

Atlanta Dan
06-30-2013, 09:14 PM
Harsh? He could have saved 'Em, from what I have read.

This is where I should have used a sarcasm symbol after my comment - I have been tearing up Hernandez for several days:drink:

Vis
07-01-2013, 06:45 AM
Aaron Hernandez jerseys are hot sellers on eBay


The NFL has stopped selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys, and the Patriots are offering a replacement jersey for anyone who wants to exchange one with Hernandez’s name and number. But that doesn’t mean Hernandez jerseys are going away.

In fact, fans who have listed Hernandez jerseys on eBay in the days since Hernandez was charged with first-degree murder have been able to turn a profit.

Patriots fan John Lamothe told the Boston Globe he was shocked to get $289 for a Hernandez jersey he put on eBay last week.

“I thought about giving it to Goodwill, but I didn’t think anybody would want it,” Lamothe said. “I thought I might get $15 for it.”

Lynn L’Heureux, who paid $100 for a Hernandez jersey, has seen the bidding reach $127 so far.

“I can’t think of any reason why people would want it,” L’Heureux said. “They might think it will go up in value later on, and maybe it will, but I’m not interested. I just don’t want it in my possession. I want to use the money to buy a jersey that reflects my pride in the Patriots.”

So despite everything we’ve learned about Hernandez in the last couple of weeks, we may still see some Hernandez jerseys in the stands at Gillette Stadium this season.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/aaron-hernandez-jerseys-are-hot-sellers-on-ebay/

JonM229
07-01-2013, 07:28 AM
How much do Carruth jerseys sell for these days?

teegre
07-01-2013, 07:30 AM
...and then, Hernandez will burst into those fans' hotel rooms, to steal those jerseys.

Atlanta Dan
07-01-2013, 10:07 AM
Aaron Hernandez jerseys are hot sellers on eBay

The NFL has stopped selling Aaron Hernandez jerseys, and the Patriots are offering a replacement jersey for anyone who wants to exchange one with Hernandez’s name and number. But that doesn’t mean Hernandez jerseys are going away.

In fact, fans who have listed Hernandez jerseys on eBay in the days since Hernandez was charged with first-degree murder have been able to turn a profit.

Well the Patriots plan now becomes clear - allow purchasers to exchange their Hernandez jerseys, after which the Patriots put the returned Hernandez jerseys on ebay and turn a profit

The Patriots have no honor:mad:

ebsteelers
07-01-2013, 10:35 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1998-Topps-Gold-Label-KERRY-WOOD-Error-True-d-1-1-RAE-CARRUTH-Foil-Name-SP-/161049891899?pt=US_Baseball&hash=item257f52543b#ht_716wt_924

most expensive thing i see of rae carruth on ebay... what a strange error too considering wood and carruth dont play the same sport..




the thing is I doubt prices go up in the years it'll end up more like carruth, its not like these guys were an O.J on the field

steelax04
07-01-2013, 12:49 PM
http://i.imgur.com/fJeoSLsh.png


Some additional graphs here:
http://imgur.com/a/n7yg7

JonM229
07-01-2013, 01:05 PM
I knew the Steelers had (2) more thugs than the Ravens

Fire Arians
07-01-2013, 01:20 PM
I knew the Steelers had (2) more thugs than the Ravens

you guys prolly got us beat in felony offenses though :chuckle:

ebsteelers
07-01-2013, 02:09 PM
could you name all 19 steelers arrested since 2000?

Fire Haley
07-01-2013, 04:03 PM
Get fucked, Aaron Hernandez.

he could be, in trouble


Hearing could send Hernandez to general population

According CBS Boston, Hernandez will undergo another “classification review” today. That’s via Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson, who said that if Hernandez passes the review, he would go into general population.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/hearing-could-send-hernandez-to-general-population/

teegre
07-01-2013, 06:11 PM
he could be, in trouble


Hearing could send Hernandez to general population

According CBS Boston, Hernandez will undergo another “classification review” today. That’s via Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson, who said that if Hernandez passes the review, he would go into general population.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/hearing-could-send-hernandez-to-general-population/

I had asked that exact question. Thank you.

NSMaster56
07-01-2013, 06:25 PM
That chart of players arrested isn't fair.

You can account for 1/3 of those arrests thanks to Pacman Jones and T.O.

Atlanta Dan
07-01-2013, 06:52 PM
he could be, in trouble

Hearing could send Hernandez to general population

According CBS Boston, Hernandez will undergo another “classification review” today. That’s via Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson, who said that if Hernandez passes the review, he would go into general population.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/07/01/hearing-could-send-hernandez-to-general-population/

This is not as if Tom Brady was going into the general population to become someone's new boyfriend

Hernandez will not be flying solo - he will join up with members of the Bloods that are already there

On Thursday, TMZ posted an image of Hernandez (who was, at the time of the photo, a 17-year-old Bristol High School student) wearing all red and flashing what appears to be a gang sign. According to the report, the colors and signs are associated with the Bristol Bloods street gang in Connecticut.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbYQazNKFQnCJbOLOQsCEkLje81w8JC 2QXNrZJpGLwq_tY8_J_2A

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsZ8jtiDGZW-5a198V6kWYGAjwfK5nPZbjckhHjRx3x_HyThbp

http://nesn.com/2013/06/aaron-hernandez-flashes-alleged-bristol-bloods-gang-sign-in-photo-taken-in-high-school-photo/

Atlanta Dan
07-01-2013, 08:20 PM
Pats now getting dissed by the Bengals on player personnel decisions:sofunny:

Bengals owner and general manager Mike Brown told FOX Sports on Monday that the franchise intentionally passed on selecting Hernandez in the 2010 draft after closely scouting tight ends that year.

An unfavorable pre-draft report the Bengals had received about Hernandez and concerns there was the potential for more off-field problems at the pro level helped influence Cincinnati to select the University of Oklahoma’s Jermaine Gresham in the first round. ...

Brown said the Bengals medically disqualified Gronkowski from their draft board “because he had a bad back” coming out of Arizona State University.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/aaron-hernandez-cincinnati-bengals-avoid-tight-end-2010-draft-jermaine-gresham-070113

ebsteelers
07-01-2013, 09:08 PM
This is not as if Tom Brady was going into the general population to become someone's new boyfriend

Hernandez will not be flying solo - he will join up with members of the Bloods that are already there

On Thursday, TMZ posted an image of Hernandez (who was, at the time of the photo, a 17-year-old Bristol High School student) wearing all red and flashing what appears to be a gang sign. According to the report, the colors and signs are associated with the Bristol Bloods street gang in Connecticut.

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbYQazNKFQnCJbOLOQsCEkLje81w8JC 2QXNrZJpGLwq_tY8_J_2A

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsZ8jtiDGZW-5a198V6kWYGAjwfK5nPZbjckhHjRx3x_HyThbp

http://nesn.com/2013/06/aaron-hernandez-flashes-alleged-bristol-bloods-gang-sign-in-photo-taken-in-high-school-photo/

idk what will happen to him in jail, but its not exactly like he is a small dude, and obviously hes gonna be in pretty ridculous shape/strength to be in the nfl, its not like he bit like jerry sandusky or something.. im sure him and his crew will be ight

ricardisimo
07-01-2013, 09:43 PM
could you name all 19 steelers arrested since 2000?
No, because there were only 17, at least according to this site (http://www.sportingcharts.com/articles/nfl/nfl-arrest-rankings-since-2000.aspx).

Vis
07-02-2013, 11:59 AM
Hernandez involved in another incident in Gainesville in 2007
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As prosecutors prepare to try former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez on murder and gun charges, new details have emerged about a 2007 bar fight at the University of Florida that suggest the incident was far from trivial, Rachal Bachman of the Wall Street Journal reports.

According to a 2007 police report obtained Monday by The Wall Street Journal, Hernandez had a brush with the law at Florida before he'd even played a down.

On May 4, 2007, only months after Hernandez had enrolled at Florida, he showed up at a restaurant called The Swamp near Florida's campus in Gainesville, Fla., a two-story bar and grill that features framed jerseys of former Florida stars.

According to the police report, here's what took place: A waitress brought Hernandez two "alcoholic drinks." After Hernandez finished the drinks, a restaurant employee named Michael Taphorn delivered a bill. Hernandez said he hadn't ordered the drinks and refused to pay, at which point a "verbal altercation" began between the two men. Hernandez called a witness over to try to intervene, but a resolution couldn't be reached. Hernandez was told to leave and escorted out by Taphorn.

After stepping outside, according to the report, Hernandez told police Taphorn "got in his face" and began yelling at him. As Taphorn turned to walk away, Hernandez punched him in the side of the head—a fact Hernandez did not dispute.

Taphorn complained of hearing loss in his ear but refused medical treatment on the scene, the report said. The next day, however, doctors discovered his right eardrum had burst, an injury he was told would take four to six weeks to heal, according to the police report.

Benjamin Tobias, a spokesman for the Gainesville police department, said officers did not arrest Hernandez, who was 17 at the time. But given the severity of the injury to the victim, the department recommended a charge of felony battery—a crime that, for adults in Florida, carries a maximum of up to five years in prison.

Hernandez's attorney, Michael Fee, did not return emails and calls for comment. Former Florida football coach Urban Meyer, now the head football coach at Ohio State, has declined to comment on Hernandez.

Fire Arians
07-02-2013, 12:10 PM
idk what will happen to him in jail, but its not exactly like he is a small dude, and obviously hes gonna be in pretty ridculous shape/strength to be in the nfl, its not like he bit like jerry sandusky or something.. im sure him and his crew will be ight

pretty much. people make the tight end / wide receiver jokes, but he's more likely to be the pitcher than the catcher in prison :chuckle:

Atlanta Dan
07-02-2013, 12:32 PM
As prosecutors prepare to try former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez on murder and gun charges, new details have emerged about a 2007 bar fight at the University of Florida that suggest the incident was far from trivial, Rachal Bachman of the Wall Street Journal reports.

The guy who got punched no doubt refused to press charges against Hernandez for reasons including the bar at which he worked did not see much upside to antagonizing the Gator fans who drink there - I assume arrangements were made to deal with the unpleasantness (just as the Milledgeville student who got to meet Ben suddenly decided she no longer wanted to press charges)

Add this to the list of folks who now say they never liked Hernandez but only shared their views after he crashed and burned

JonM229
07-02-2013, 12:40 PM
Sure, I let Aaron Hernandez watch my young children, but I never really trusted the guy.

ricardisimo
07-02-2013, 02:46 PM
pretty much. people make the tight end / wide receiver jokes, but he's more likely to be the pitcher than the catcher in prison :chuckle:
For better or (more likely) worse, murderers are highly respected within the prison system. Child molesters are not.

Atlanta Dan
07-02-2013, 05:33 PM
Hernandez involved in another incident in Gainesville in 2007
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Saint Tebow tried to break it up - WTF was Tebow doing in a bar?:noidea:

Tim Tebow tried to stop Aaron Hernandez from getting into a violent bar fight in 2007 while both were football players at the University of Florida, according to Gainesville police records.

Hernandez, then a 17-year-old freshman, punched a bouncer in the head causing a broken ear drum on April 28, 2007, according to the police report.


When a police officer could not find Hernandez at the scene of the altercation around 1 a.m., the report states he interviewed Tebow about it.


The report stated the following:

A waitress at The Swamp bar allegedly brought Hernandez two "alcoholic drinks," which he consumed but refused to pay for. That's when Hernandez got into a fight with a bouncer at the bar.

Hernandez told police Taphorn got in his face and began yelling at him. As Taphorn turned to walk away, Hernandez punched him in the side of the head.

Taphorn declined medical treatment but the next day doctors discovered his right ear drum had burst and the injury would take four to six weeks to heal.

When the officer could not find Hernandez immediately following the incident, he interviewed Tebow and Shaun Young.

“Tebow stated that he witnessed the dispute,” the officer wrote. “… Tebow stated that he went over to try to help resolve the conflict.”

Tebow went on to say he urged Hernandez to leave peacefully and tried to make arrangements to pay the bill.

Two hours later, another officer found Hernandez and spoke with him about the incident. Tebow was present during the interview.

The officer wrote Hernandez did not appear to be intoxicated and was, “very polite and professional.”

Hernandez told the officer both he and Tebow had already called then-UF football coach Urban Meyer and informed him about the incident.

[B]A day later, the investigating officer told Hernandez’s attorney, Huntley Johnson, he would not be pursuing charges in connection with alcohol served to minors at the restaurant, but he wrote, “it would be noted in the report so the coaches could handle it internally.”

Gainesville police recommended Hernandez be charged with a felony, but it is unclear how the case was resolved because all of Hernandez’s other juvenile records are sealed. However, Hernandez still end up punching the bouncer.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/os-tim-tebow-aaron-hernandez-bar-fight-07022013,0,6747621.story

ebsteelers
07-02-2013, 06:44 PM
Saint Tebow tried to break it up - WTF was Tebow doing in a bar?:noidea:

Tim Tebow tried to stop Aaron Hernandez from getting into a violent bar fight in 2007 while both were football players at the University of Florida, according to Gainesville police records.

Hernandez, then a 17-year-old freshman, punched a bouncer in the head causing a broken ear drum on April 28, 2007, according to the police report.


When a police officer could not find Hernandez at the scene of the altercation around 1 a.m., the report states he interviewed Tebow about it.


The report stated the following:

A waitress at The Swamp bar allegedly brought Hernandez two "alcoholic drinks," which he consumed but refused to pay for. That's when Hernandez got into a fight with a bouncer at the bar.

Hernandez told police Taphorn got in his face and began yelling at him. As Taphorn turned to walk away, Hernandez punched him in the side of the head.

Taphorn declined medical treatment but the next day doctors discovered his right ear drum had burst and the injury would take four to six weeks to heal.

When the officer could not find Hernandez immediately following the incident, he interviewed Tebow and Shaun Young.

“Tebow stated that he witnessed the dispute,” the officer wrote. “… Tebow stated that he went over to try to help resolve the conflict.”

Tebow went on to say he urged Hernandez to leave peacefully and tried to make arrangements to pay the bill.

Two hours later, another officer found Hernandez and spoke with him about the incident. Tebow was present during the interview.

The officer wrote Hernandez did not appear to be intoxicated and was, “very polite and professional.”

Hernandez told the officer both he and Tebow had already called then-UF football coach Urban Meyer and informed him about the incident.

[B]A day later, the investigating officer told Hernandez’s attorney, Huntley Johnson, he would not be pursuing charges in connection with alcohol served to minors at the restaurant, but he wrote, “it would be noted in the report so the coaches could handle it internally.”

Gainesville police recommended Hernandez be charged with a felony, but it is unclear how the case was resolved because all of Hernandez’s other juvenile records are sealed. However, Hernandez still end up punching the bouncer.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/os-tim-tebow-aaron-hernandez-bar-fight-07022013,0,6747621.story


because the media needs to get tebows name in there anyway they can.


why was tebow at the bar though? he wasnt 21 at the time..

ebsteelers
07-02-2013, 06:45 PM
Saint Tebow tried to break it up - WTF was Tebow doing in a bar?:noidea:

Tim Tebow tried to stop Aaron Hernandez from getting into a violent bar fight in 2007 while both were football players at the University of Florida, according to Gainesville police records.

Hernandez, then a 17-year-old freshman, punched a bouncer in the head causing a broken ear drum on April 28, 2007, according to the police report.


When a police officer could not find Hernandez at the scene of the altercation around 1 a.m., the report states he interviewed Tebow about it.


The report stated the following:

A waitress at The Swamp bar allegedly brought Hernandez two "alcoholic drinks," which he consumed but refused to pay for. That's when Hernandez got into a fight with a bouncer at the bar.

Hernandez told police Taphorn got in his face and began yelling at him. As Taphorn turned to walk away, Hernandez punched him in the side of the head.

Taphorn declined medical treatment but the next day doctors discovered his right ear drum had burst and the injury would take four to six weeks to heal.

When the officer could not find Hernandez immediately following the incident, he interviewed Tebow and Shaun Young.

“Tebow stated that he witnessed the dispute,” the officer wrote. “… Tebow stated that he went over to try to help resolve the conflict.”

Tebow went on to say he urged Hernandez to leave peacefully and tried to make arrangements to pay the bill.

Two hours later, another officer found Hernandez and spoke with him about the incident. Tebow was present during the interview.

[B]The officer wrote Hernandez did not appear to be intoxicated and was, “very polite and professional.”

Hernandez told the officer both he and Tebow had already called then-UF football coach Urban Meyer and informed him about the incident.

A day later, the investigating officer told Hernandez’s attorney, Huntley Johnson, he would not be pursuing charges in connection with alcohol served to minors at the restaurant, but he wrote, “it would be noted in the report so the coaches could handle it internally.”

Gainesville police recommended Hernandez be charged with a felony, but it is unclear how the case was resolved because all of Hernandez’s other juvenile records are sealed. However, Hernandez still end up punching the bouncer.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/college/gators/os-tim-tebow-aaron-hernandez-bar-fight-07022013,0,6747621.story



Everything I keep reading about him is how nice and professional and a sweet heart he is.

Aarons seems like the kid in class who a suck up to the teacher and parents... then knocks the stuffing out of you when no one is looking


and if Aaron jacked up bouncer at 17, he should be trying out for the olympic boxing team geez

pczach
07-02-2013, 09:04 PM
Everything I keep reading about him is how nice and professional and a sweet heart he is.

Aarons seems like the kid in class who a suck up to the teacher and parents... then knocks the stuffing out of you when no one is looking


and if Aaron jacked up bouncer at 17, he should be trying out for the olympic boxing team geez

I hear he's a very tough guy. Some say he was the toughest guy on that Florida Gator team. That said, any jerk can cold **** someone when they turn away from them and aren't looking. He's a punk, a thug. He's just a bad guy. We're only learning a fraction of what this piece of shit did in his lifetime. This stuff just scratches the surface.

ebsteelers
07-02-2013, 10:16 PM
I hear he's a very tough guy. Some say he was the toughest guy on that Florida Gator team. That said, any jerk can cold **** someone when they turn away from them and aren't looking. He's a punk, a thug. He's just a bad guy. We're only learning a fraction of what this piece of shit did in his lifetime. This stuff just scratches the surface.

ironic that it takes a murder accusation to bring all these stuff out..

not sure if i should laugh at society, and how everyone wants to be your buddy until you do something wrong then your past comes out, or shed a tear about how pathetic it is.


who gives a fuck what he did when he was 17, or 18... lot of people do some shyt then.

Buddha Bus
07-03-2013, 03:24 AM
And the plot thickens....


__________________________________________________ ______________

Man who police wanted to talk to about Aaron Hernandez dies in car accident
By Frank Schwab
Shutdown Corner

If you don't think the Aaron Hernandez story can get any weirder, wait a few minutes and it will.

The Hartford Courant has a story sure to get imaginations running. Thaddeus Singleton III, an associate of Hernandez's with whom who police wanted to talk, died early Sunday in a one-car accident. The report said the car shot through the air and hit the Farmington Country Club six feet off the ground. Hernandez is being held on a charge of first-degree murder, and police are also looking into any possible involvement the former New England Patriots tight end had in a 2012 double murder in Boston.

The Nissan Maxima in the accident involving Singleton was registered to Andres Valderrama, Hernandez's uncle. Singleton was married to Hernandez's cousin, the story said.

No matter whether this was a mere coincidental accident or not, the whole Hernandez plot is starting to seem like it came straight from "The Sopranos."


(Read More:) http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/man-police-wanted-talk-aaron-hernandez-dies-car-012034083.html

pczach
07-03-2013, 05:58 AM
I love when you hear "the police wanted to talk to". What the hell was stopping them? You would think in a case like this, that everything would be done as quickly as possible to establish who is important in the case, and who may be at risk because of what they know. They already have a man in custody that they believe executed a "friend" because he talked to people he didn't want him to.

Very strange. Gets the wheels in my brain turning a bit.

teegre
07-03-2013, 07:49 AM
AP is reporting:
Despite crashing her car numerous times, Lindsey Lohan has neither died nor do the authorities wish to "talk to her."

Vis
07-03-2013, 08:01 AM
AP is reporting:
Despite crashing her car numerous times, Lindsey Lohan has neither died nor do the authorities wish to "talk to her."

So far so good but we'll need you to examine her tats closely for possible gang affiliations.

Atlanta Dan
07-03-2013, 08:31 AM
And the plot thickens....


__________________________________________________ ______________

Man who police wanted to talk to about Aaron Hernandez dies in car accident

The Hartford Courant has a story sure to get imaginations running. Thaddeus Singleton III, an associate of Hernandez's with whom who police wanted to talk, died early Sunday in a one-car accident. The report said the car shot through the air and hit the Farmington Country Club six feet off the ground.

Mr. Singleton was late for his tee off time at the club

http://www.farmingtoncountryclub.com/getmedia/c2b1f93d-5945-47b4-9bb5-b5cb6230102b/PALUF_100717_3186.aspx

Stanley
07-03-2013, 09:01 AM
Sounds like Singleton committed suicide.

I can think of better ways to commit suicide.
I'm trying to smoke myself to death.
:flap:

Atlanta Dan
07-03-2013, 09:52 AM
Based on this headline I guess this confirms Belichick's involvement

Hoodie found inside condo:jawdrop:

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/hoodie-found-inside-condo/article_48884f74-8a52-5d6b-8dcb-1c8f98f38f4d.html

The linked story appears to identify the cooperating perp who dimed Hernandez

A white hooded sweatshirt consistent with the one allegedly worn by Aaron Hernandez on the night an acquaintance was killed has been recovered at a Franklin condominium he rented.

The key piece of evidence was recovered, along with numerous rounds of various ammunition, including .45-caliber ammo, the same caliber as the handgun used in the June 17 murder, according to search warrant records in Wrentham District Court....

Authorities were told about the condo at 599 Old West St., in Franklin, by Carlos Ortiz, 27, who is from Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., according to the search warrant records.

Ortiz was interviewed June 25, the day before Hernandez was arrested, and told authorities he and Hernandez went to the condo the night of the murder, and that he inadvertently had left his cellphone at the condo, according to the search warrant records.

Police say they recovered a cellphone of similar make and model as the one Ortiz told them he left in the condo, according to the records.

Ortiz was charged with unlawfully carrying a firearm in connection with the case and is being held in jail without bail.

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/hoodie-found-inside-condo/article_48884f74-8a52-5d6b-8dcb-1c8f98f38f4d.html

tony hipchest
07-03-2013, 10:06 AM
any truth to the rumors that hernandez is now linked to the dissappearance of jimmy hoffa and under investigation for the assassination of JFK?

Atlanta Dan
07-03-2013, 10:19 AM
any truth to the rumors that hernandez is now linked to the dissappearance of jimmy hoffa and under investigation for the assassination of JFK?

Not yet - but I understand he allegedly sunk the Titanic

tony hipchest
07-03-2013, 10:26 AM
...and killed mantai te'os girlfriend.

tony hipchest
07-03-2013, 10:27 AM
...and murdered any chances tom brady had at winning another superbowl.

ebsteelers
07-03-2013, 10:28 AM
...and killed mantai te'os girlfriend.

http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/manti-teo-memes-35.jpg







aaron is now being investigated for every unsolved murder in New England... since the beginning of time..

Vis
07-03-2013, 10:38 AM
Patriots teammates: Hernandez a loner

Posted by Darin Gantt on July 3, 2013, 11:10 AM EDT


If anything has become obvious, it’s that very few people, if any, truly knew Aaron Hernandez.

The people who worked alongside him are not exempt from that, as several said he was as mysterious around the Patriots as he is to investigators now.

Jeff Howe of the Boston Herald spoke to a number of his former teammates, and while none gave their names, there was a general sense that Hernandez was an enigma to them.

“No one hung out with him,” one player said. “No one.”

Another added: “Out of 53 guys, surely there’s someone you could find to hang out with. Instead, he chose to revert to his network from his hometown.”

The reliance on old friends plays into the “influenced by a bad crowd” blanket that is being thrown over Hernandez by many at the moment. Of course, those in his old neighborhood could easily point to him as being the bad element that was dragging them down.

But while former Patriots teammate Deion Branch was the only teammate to refer to him as a “a great guy and a great friend,” others apparently didn’t share that opinion.

“I just think he fooled everyone,” a former teammate said.

That can’t be argued, even by those who claim with the benefit of hindsight they were scared away from him.

Cut all loners now

pczach
07-03-2013, 11:32 AM
Jack the Ripper has nothing on this guy. He's apparently wanted for every murder that happened in the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.....

Vis
07-03-2013, 12:27 PM
Jack the Ripper has nothing on this guy. He's apparently wanted for every murder that happened in the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries.....

Usually they get guys like this on tax evasion

pczach
07-03-2013, 01:11 PM
Usually they get guys like this on tax evasion

The Untouchables

:chuckle:

ebsteelers
07-03-2013, 01:15 PM
http://global3.memecdn.com/tony-montana_o_1247577.jpg

Vis
07-03-2013, 02:38 PM
Cops: Evidence found in 'flop house'
ESPN.com news services

Court documents indicate the search of a secret "flop house" leased by former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez has turned up what police say could be key evidence in the murder case against him.

Police say they learned about the apartment from Carlos Ortiz, a friend of Hernandez's whom prosecutors say was with the ex-player the night he allegedly arranged the shooting of Odin Lloyd.

They then searched the $1,200-a-month apartment in Franklin on June 26, according to search warrant records at Wrentham District Court. Among the findings were a white hooded sweatshirt and a cranberry-colored cap in a bedroom, the documents said.

Surveillance video showed Hernandez, 23, wearing a similar sweatshirt the night Lloyd was killed on June 17, the records say.

He was wearing the cap in a picture shown on a local news station taken outside a nightclub June 14, the Friday before the killing, the documents said. Prosecutors say Hernandez was upset at Lloyd for talking to certain people at the nightclub.

"The white sweatshirt could be used ... to assist in linking Hernandez to the scene of the crime," wrote Trooper Michael Bates, in an affidavit in support of one of the search warrants.

"The baseball hat could help provide the whereabouts of Hernandez on the Friday night before the homicide," Bates wrote.

The search also turned up several boxes of ammunition, including .22-, .45- and 7.62-caliber ammunition.

Lloyd's body was found in an industrial park near Hernandez's North Attleborough home. Prosecutors say Hernandez, Ortiz and another man drove there with Lloyd that night, though they haven't said who shot Lloyd.

Hernandez's attorneys say the evidence against him is circumstantial and that he's eager to clear his name.

In another development, Alexander Bradley, an East Hartford man who in a civil lawsuit has charged that Hernandez in February shot him in the eye outside a Florida nightclub, was served an interstate subpoena Tuesday to appear before a Massachusetts grand jury investigating the Hernandez murder case, the Hartford Courant reported.

Bradley's lawyer, David Jaroslawicz, wouldn't comment Tuesday about the nature of the alleged dispute between his client and Hernandez. He said the two flew to South Florida together before getting into a dispute at a Miami club.

The attorney said Bradley, who worked for Stanley Steamer before the shooting, had done some work for Hernandez and that the two also hung out socially a few times and had known each other for several years.

"Whether or not Hernandez shot him deliberately or accidentally only Hernandez can tell us and right now he's not doing too much talking," Jaroslawicz said in a phone interview. Authorities have also linked Hernandez to a May 18 fight outside

Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson, meanwhile, reiterated on Wednesday that he won't allow Hernandez to marry his fiancée while he is jailed on his murder charge.

"We're not going to revamp our entire security system to perform marriages inside our prison. If you want to get married, what you do is, you stay out of jail," he told the NFL Network on Wednesday in an interview with the "NFL AM" show, adding he's taken away many privileges from inmates, such as weights, televisions in cells and coffee.


We're not going to revamp our entire security system to perform marriages inside our prison. If you want to get married, what you do is, you stay out of jail.

” -- Bristol County Sheriff Thomas Hodgson
By law, Hernandez's fiancée, Shayanna Jenkins, who is also the mother of his 7-month-old daughter, would not have to testify against the former New England Patriots tight end if they were married. Prosecutors said last week that investigators had been speaking with Jenkins until she received a telephone call from Hernandez telling her to stop talking to authorities.

Hernandez is acclimating well to jail and was moved Monday from the medical unit, where he's been closely watched since arriving, to a different unit. Hernandez will remain in a cell by himself, but now instead of having one hour a day outside that cell, he'll be allowed three hours. In part because of his notoriety, Hernandez won't have contact with other inmates for at least another week.

The jail's gang intelligence unit has finished its evaluation of Hernandez, and Hodgson told ESPN on Monday he's not as concerned as he expected to be when he saw the number of tattoos on Hernandez's body. Hodgson told the NFL Network on Wednesday that they are now monitoring how other inmates react to Hernandez in Phase 2 of their evaluation.

"Now he's in a unit where the inmates, although only one person in that unit can be out at a time, he would still be, for example, in the common area where inmates can walk up to their cell door and see from inside their cells through a glass window and can speak through that door.

"We want to see what reaction we're going to get from those inmates in that unit and how he reacts to that."

Hodgson said Hernandez won't be able to walk up to cell doors to have a conversation with other inmates, "but he could hear them if they decided to yell out."

Buddha Bus
07-03-2013, 02:47 PM
any truth to the rumors that hernandez is now linked to the dissappearance of jimmy hoffa and under investigation for the assassination of JFK?

Not yet - but I understand he allegedly sunk the Titanic

...and killed mantai te'os girlfriend.

...and murdered any chances tom brady had at winning another superbowl.

I don't know, but if he is involved with all of that stuff, he'll be approaching Bagz territory in his inhumanities. :chuckle:

pczach
07-03-2013, 02:51 PM
I don't know, but if he is involved with all of that stuff, he'll be approaching Bagz territory in his inhumanities. :chuckle:

Let's not get carried away.....

Buddha Bus
07-03-2013, 02:53 PM
Let's not get carried away.....

:doh:

What was I thinking? Attila the Hun looks like Mary Poppins compared to Bagz.

teegre
07-03-2013, 03:49 PM
I heard that during the premier of "Empire Strikes Back", five minutes in, Bayz shouted out, "Darth is Luke's father!!!"

By far... his worst crime.

Buddha Bus
07-03-2013, 03:50 PM
I heard that during the premier of "Empire Strikes Back", five minutes in, Bayz shouted out, "Darth is Luke's father!!!"

By far... his worst crime.

I heard it was stealing Samoas from Girl Scouts.

teegre
07-03-2013, 04:08 PM
I heard it was stealing Samoas from Girl Scouts.

Actually, it was drinking a bottle of blue food coloring, and a Jumbo-Super-Double Big Gulp... and then peeing in the public swimming pool.

Atlanta Dan
07-03-2013, 05:46 PM
A warrant for the arrest of San Francisco 49ers linebacker Ahmad Brooks on charges he assaulted a teammate has been put on hold amid a debate in the Santa Clara County District Attorney's Office over whether Brooks should be charged with a felony or a misdemeanor -- or not at all.

The controversy stems from a June 8 incident in which Brooks allegedly struck 49ers nose tackle Lamar Divens three times in the head with a beer bottle and then punched him in the face during an argument over car keys outside Brooks' house in San Jose. The alleged attack left Divens bloodied and requiring three stitches, according to court documents. ...

According to the application for Brooks' arrest, the incident unfolded after Brooks, Divens and other 49er players spent the evening of June 7 at different players' houses. Eventually they decided to go to downtown San Jose and keep drinking.

The unidentified witness said Brooks was too intoxicated to drive home, so Divens drove. When they got to Brooks' house about 2 a.m. on June 8, Brooks asked for his keys. Divens pretended to chuck them onto the grass and then started to hand them to him.

Brooks then allegedly clocked Divens in the head with a beer bottle. Brooks allegedly began cursing and then struck him in the head again. Brooks allegedly asked Divens, "Do I need to get my (expletive deleted) gun?" and struck him again. Prosecutors also allege in the warrant that Brooks punched Divens.

http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_23588549/da-weighs-whether-seek-49ers-linebacker-ahmad-brooks

Aaron Hernandez allegedly was with them that night - Tim Tebow allegedly tried to break up the fight

Vis
07-03-2013, 05:52 PM
ESPN is reporting Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey, and his twin brother, Dolphins C Mike Pouncey, were with former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez at a Gainesville, Fla., nightclub in 2007 before two men were wounded by gun fire - Hernandez is being investigated as the shooter.

In a report obtained by ESPN's "Outside the Lines," The Pounceys were with Hernandez at The Venue night club in Gainesville Sept. 30, 2007. Also, former Jaguars S Reggie Nelson, who was a rookie with Jacksonville and a former teammate of the Pounceys and Hernandez were there.

Three men, Corey Smith, 28-year-old at the time, was shot in back of the head. Justin Glass, the 19-year-old driver, was shot in the arm, and Randall Cason, sitting in the back seat behind Smith, was unharmed, according to ESPN.

Cason told police a "Hawaiian or hispanic male," standing around 6-foot-3 or 6-foot-4 with a lot of tattoos, opened fire on the car, with shots striking the two victims. Cason said a black male accompanied the shooter, and later identified that male as Nelson.

Nelson told Gainesville police he was at the club, but was not at the scene of the alleged crime. He did say Cason was accused of having stolen a necklace from one of the Pouncey twins, and that Nelson confronted him at the night club. Nelson told police there was no incident, and the two parted ways without incident.

According to Outside The Lines, a portion of the police report still included Hernandez's name while redaction black covers up a name in the rest of the report.

According to that report, and despite claims to the Orlando Sentinel denying Hernandez was a suspect, Hernandez declined a request to speak to detectives, "evoking his right to counsel."

That section also noted Cason "rescinded his identification of Aaron Hernandez and Reggie Nelson," thus confirming the victim identified Hernandez as well as Nelson.

Reports do not suggest either Pouncey brother as having been a part of the alleged shooting, but Nelson spelled out a connection between them and the victim. Neither were named in the police report for any reason outside one of them (it says "one of the Pouncey twins") owned a necklace that was allegedly stolen by Cason.

What role that played in the supposed altercation could be a detail of interest for investigators, but even at the time, police noted Hernandez was not a suspect in the shooting.

Atlanta Dan
07-03-2013, 05:55 PM
ESPN is reporting Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey, and his twin brother, Dolphins C Mike Pouncey, were with former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez at a Gainesville, Fla., nightclub in 2007 before two men were wounded by gun fire - Hernandez is being investigated as the shooter.

In a report obtained by ESPN's "Outside the Lines," The Pounceys were with Hernandez at The Venue night club in Gainesville Sept. 30, 2007. Also, former Jaguars S Reggie Nelson, who was a rookie with Jacksonville and a former teammate of the Pounceys and Hernandez were there.

That bar must have been Party Central for the Gators

MasterOfPuppets
07-03-2013, 06:41 PM
I heard it was stealing Samoas from Girl Scouts.
they were beatin his ass till he pepper sprayed em and got away ...
http://1.media.collegehumor.cvcdn.com/67/50/collegehumor.700a47aaed8f8d86bd337fa5dac3ad79.jpg

then he moved on to old women...
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aoltv.com/media/2008/01/ss-earl-winner.png

Buddha Bus
07-04-2013, 05:36 AM
they were beatin his ass till he pepper sprayed em and got away ...


I was wondering where he got that severe limp from.

MasterOfPuppets
07-04-2013, 10:47 AM
I was wondering where he got that severe limp from.
the one in his wrist ? thats just an advertisement for his life style..
http://image.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/compositions/15913298/views/1,width=280,height=280,appearanceId=196.png/limp-wrist_design.png

Buddha Bus
07-04-2013, 10:59 AM
So..... what's he been accused of or linked to today?

I imagine we will be informed shortly of his possible involvement in the shooting death of J.R. Ewing.

teegre
07-04-2013, 11:03 AM
Rumor has it that it was NOT Maurkice Pouncey who kissed his twin brother on the lips; it is being reported that it was Aaron Hernandez who kissed Michael.

pczach
07-04-2013, 03:26 PM
So..... what's he been accused of or linked to today?

I imagine we will be informed shortly of his possible involvement in the shooting death of J.R. Ewing.

The Lindbergh baby kidnapping has been rumored by an unconfirmed source.

Vis
07-04-2013, 08:10 PM
The Lindbergh baby kidnapping has been rumored by an unconfirmed source.

It certainly wasn't Bruno Hauptmann who did it.

lloydwoodson
07-04-2013, 08:40 PM
The Lindbergh baby kidnapping has been rumored by an unconfirmed source.

Nope wasnt Hernandez. Hernandez has a rock solid alibi- he was driving a white Ford Bronco at the time.

Vis
07-05-2013, 07:28 AM
Hernandez pal Oritz cooperating with police


A sidekick of Aaron Hernandez is cooperating with authorities in what one former prosecutor called a key development in the murder case against the ex-Patriots star, as new evidence emerged yesterday potentially tying him to the slaying of Odin L. Lloyd, Dave Wedge, Christine McConville 
and Antonio Planas of the Boston Herald report.

Court documents obtained yesterday show that Carlos Ortiz — who authorities say was with Hernandez when the Dorchester amateur football player was executed in North Attleboro on June 17 — has flipped on his friend.

Ortiz, who hails from Hernandez’s hometown of Bristol, Conn., talked to state troopers in Connecticut last week and directed cops to a secret crash pad in Franklin leased by Hernandez, court papers show.

“Ortiz did confirm that he was with Aaron Hernandez on the night in question,” state trooper Michael Bates wrote in an affidavit filed in Wrentham District Court. “Ortiz then went on to explain that Hernandez has another address that not many people know about. Ortiz referred to this location as an apartment-style location, commonly referred to as a ‘flop house.’ ”

Former Middlesex District Attorney Gerard T. Leone, now a private attorney not connected to the Hernandez case, said 
Ortiz’s cooperation could be a dagger for prosecutors.

“If it is in fact shown that he was in the car leading up to and during the killing, then that type of witness would be huge,” 
Leone said. “From a defense perspective, it’s obviously damaging. But the prosecution will need as much corroborating evidence as possible.”

Ortiz, a career criminal, was arrested in Connecticut last week on weapons charges in connection with Lloyd’s slaying. If his information checks out, he likely would be offered a deal for his testimony that could include a lesser charge or even immunity from prosecution, Leone added.

How many people were killed and how many are reporters based on the first paragraph?

teegre
07-05-2013, 07:40 AM
How many people were killed and how many are reporters based on the first paragraph?

The panda eats, shoots, and leaves. :wink02:

Atlanta Dan
07-05-2013, 09:55 AM
How many people were killed and how many are reporters based on the first paragraph?

Either the Boston Herald cannot afford copy editors or the copy editors were killed by Hernandez

teegre
07-05-2013, 10:04 AM
Either the Boston Herald cannot afford copy editors or the copy editors were killed by Hernandez

That's what 'Murf said.

Atlanta Dan
07-06-2013, 06:18 PM
Hundreds of fans flocked to the New England Patriots pro shop at Gillette Stadium on Saturday morning, taking part in a two-day event to exchange jerseys of former tight end Aaron Hernandez for those of current players....

And some moral lines in the sand are being drawn

Zack Klein, 14, of Newton, Mass., came to the pro shop wearing an Atlanta Falcons jersey of former quarterback Michael Vick, who spent nearly two years in prison on dog fighting charges.:doh:

"I support what (Vick) has done now, after. He's come back pretty well," he said. "But I don't support Hernandez."...

Patriots fan Steven McGrath, in his new Rob Gronkowski jersey, said he traded in his Aaron Hernandez jersey at Saturday's event because he felt Hernandez disrespected Myra Kraft.
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0706/nfl_a_hernandez11_300.jpg

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9454690/new-england-patriots-fans-line-trade-aaron-hernandez-jerseys

MACH1
07-06-2013, 06:56 PM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/p320x320/935810_205589066262876_1418493265_n.jpg

Atlanta Dan
07-08-2013, 09:28 PM
ACLU: Aaron Hernandez Isolation Raises Issues With Solitary Confinement

A week ago Aaron Hernandez was moved to a new cell in the Bristol County jail and that’s caught the attention of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Hernandez, 23, is currently being held without bail for the murder of Odin Lloyd, 27, of Dorchester on June 17 in North Attleboro.

He was moved to a single-bed cell, with no contact with other inmates July 1.

That became the topic for a blog post on the ACLU’s web site titled, “Aaron Hernandez Is Now Locked Alone Inside a Room the Size of a Parking Spot.”

Here are some excerpts:

“Regardless of what you think of Aaron Hernandez, it’s important to take a minute and remember he has not yet been convicted — in the eyes of the law, he is still innocent until proven guilty. But, while awaiting trial, he has been locked alone in a small room with little or no human interaction for over 20 hours a day.

Extreme isolation can have debilitating psychological effects. Prisoners locked alone in solitary confinement may become depressed or begin hallucinating. Psychologists have said that the effects of prolonged solitary confinement can be irreversible, and an emerging international community has begun to condemn solitary confinement. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture has said thatsolitary confinement can amount to torture, and the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment found that solitary confinement conditions can amount to “inhuman and degrading treatment.”

“It is time to recognize that “protective custody” is a misnomer for a destructive practice. It does little to protect prisoners from the devastating psychological effects of isolation. It drastically diminishes chances for rehabilitation. And according to some studies, prisoners released directly from supermax confinement have significantly higher recidivism rates.



“He’s high-profile,” Sheriff Tom Hodgson told WBZ-TV last week. “Anybody with a high profile, we’re very careful with. There are people in the prison who would like to make a name for themselves.”

“He’s being treated as any other prisoner, no better, no worse,” Hodgson said. “All of the people that are in the unit that he’s in are all in single cells, no inmates are allowed out with any other inmate.”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/07/08/aclu-aaron-hernandez-isolation-raises-issues-with-solitary-confinement/

stb_steeler
07-08-2013, 10:07 PM
^ Thats the way prison should be.....There is no room inside a box!

Buddha Bus
07-09-2013, 04:09 AM
ACLU: Aaron Hernandez Isolation Raises Issues With Solitary Confinement

A week ago Aaron Hernandez was moved to a new cell in the Bristol County jail and that’s caught the attention of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Hernandez, 23, is currently being held without bail for the murder of Odin Lloyd, 27, of Dorchester on June 17 in North Attleboro.

He was moved to a single-bed cell, with no contact with other inmates July 1.

That became the topic for a blog post on the ACLU’s web site titled, “Aaron Hernandez Is Now Locked Alone Inside a Room the Size of a Parking Spot.”

Here are some excerpts:

“Regardless of what you think of Aaron Hernandez, it’s important to take a minute and remember he has not yet been convicted — in the eyes of the law, he is still innocent until proven guilty. But, while awaiting trial, he has been locked alone in a small room with little or no human interaction for over 20 hours a day.

Extreme isolation can have debilitating psychological effects. Prisoners locked alone in solitary confinement may become depressed or begin hallucinating. Psychologists have said that the effects of prolonged solitary confinement can be irreversible, and an emerging international community has begun to condemn solitary confinement. The UN Special Rapporteur on Torture has said thatsolitary confinement can amount to torture, and the European Committee for the Prevention of Torture and Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment found that solitary confinement conditions can amount to “inhuman and degrading treatment.”

“It is time to recognize that “protective custody” is a misnomer for a destructive practice. It does little to protect prisoners from the devastating psychological effects of isolation. It drastically diminishes chances for rehabilitation. And according to some studies, prisoners released directly from supermax confinement have significantly higher recidivism rates.



“He’s high-profile,” Sheriff Tom Hodgson told WBZ-TV last week. “Anybody with a high profile, we’re very careful with. There are people in the prison who would like to make a name for themselves.”

“He’s being treated as any other prisoner, no better, no worse,” Hodgson said. “All of the people that are in the unit that he’s in are all in single cells, no inmates are allowed out with any other inmate.”

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/07/08/aclu-aaron-hernandez-isolation-raises-issues-with-solitary-confinement/



What... like giving you murderous thoughts and making you shoot people? Oh wait....

It seems that Mr. Hernandez' psyche is already damaged. I doubt solitary confinement can do much more.

tony hipchest
07-09-2013, 09:01 AM
Aaron Hernandez. In the library. With the candlestick.

lloydwoodson
07-09-2013, 11:24 AM
I just heard Aaron Hernandez killed Manti Te'o's girlfriend as well!!!

Vis
07-09-2013, 03:10 PM
With a Massachusetts judge's decision to make public some documents surrounding the murder case of former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez -- and the apparent decision by Hernandez's lawyers not to appeal the ruling -- a number of interesting observations have emerged about the investigation.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOwKAoVCYAAGRVl.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOwKIhfCUAAQtRX.jpg:large

Taken from the reporting of the Boston Globe and Fox 25, here are some interesting details.

Here was some of the potential evidence picked up from the police search of the Hernandez home.

Included in the items taken from Hernandez's house was a safe that contained a scale and a dish.

When investigators first told Hernandez they were “conducting a death investigation,” he slammed the door and then locked it. He also apparently became “argumentative” with police when they first questioned him.

The police say the cell phone found on the body of Odin Lloyd contained a text from Hernandez received on the morning of his death that read, “We still on”.

More from investigators: “Mr. Hernandez's demeanor did not indicate any concern for the death of any person." Hernandez also allegedly did not ask who had died.

When police first began looking for Hernandez, they questioned Patriots special team assistant coach Joe Judge, who happens to be one of Hernandez's neighbors.

It's been reported that investigators found bubble gum and a shell casing in a rental car that Hernandez allegedly had been driving. According to the documents, those pieces of evidence were found underneath a child's drawing.

The NY Daily News writes that when Lloyd was found, he had $64.75 in cash in his possession.

Police went to Gillette Stadium to search Hernandez's locker, but this occured after he had been cut and the locker's possessions already had been removed. The team turned over the contents of the locker to police.

Police found multiple firearms on Hernandez's property.

According to police, Lloyd slept at Hernandez's house two nights before he died.

A witness at the Rumor nightclub in Boston said Hernandez was present at the club two days before Odin's death with a handgun in his waistband.

Atlanta Dan
07-09-2013, 03:54 PM
With a Massachusetts judge's decision to make public some documents surrounding the murder case of former Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez -- and the apparent decision by Hernandez's lawyers not to appeal the ruling -- a number of interesting observations have emerged about the investigation.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOwKAoVCYAAGRVl.jpg:large

Included in the items taken from Hernandez's house was a safe that contained a scale and a dish.

Damn - lots of Apple products

As far as the scales go, you do not want to get shorted - caveat emptor

Vis
07-09-2013, 04:01 PM
As far as the scales go, you do not want to get shorted - caveat emptor

I didn't notice that. I defer to your knowledge.

JonM229
07-09-2013, 05:30 PM
Damn - lots of Apple products

As far as the scales go, you do not want to get shorted - caveat emptor

One does not simply short Aaron Hernandez

-insert picture of Borromir from LotR-

Buddha Bus
07-09-2013, 05:36 PM
Here's The Text Message Conversation That Aaron Hernandez Had With Odin Lloyd The Night He Was Killed
By Tony Manfred | Business Insider – 3 hours ago
AP

Investigators released the results of a search warrant against Aaron Hernandez this afternoon.

It gives further details of the prosecution's claim that Hernandez, along with two associates, picked up Odin Lloyd at his house in Boston, drove him to an industrial park less than a mile from Hernandez's home, and shot him five times.

Police released the specifics of the text message conversation that Hernandez had with Lloyd on the night of his death.

Here's the conversation as it appeared in court records (via Brian Ballou of the Boston Globe):

Hernandez (9:05 pm): "I'm coming to grab that tonight u gon b around I need dat and we could step for a little again"

[no answer]

Hernandez (9:34 pm): "Waddup."

Lloyd (9:37 pm): "Aite, where."

Hernandez (9:39 pm): "idk it don't matter but imma hit u when I'm dat way like Las time if my phone dies imma hit u when I charge it which will be in a lil."

Lloyd (10:00 pm): "Aite idk anything goin on"

Hernandez (10:13 pm): "I'll figure it out ill hit u on way."

Lloyd (12:22 am): "We still on."
The court records also show that Lloyd kept Hernandez in his phone under the name "Dis N***a."

(Read More:) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-text-message-conversation-aaron-192146255.html

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I don't know if Hernandez murdered someone or not, but he almost certainly is guilty of butchering the English language. Hopefully he'll pick up a few books and read a little while in solitary.

MasterOfPuppets
07-09-2013, 06:34 PM
http://dougnyren.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/20130630-213358.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
07-09-2013, 06:48 PM
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/filestorage/aaron-hernandez-patriots-murder-tom-brady-sympathy-ecards-someecards.png

Vis
07-09-2013, 06:48 PM
Here's the timeline of the alleged murder, as told by the prosecution:

Friday night, June 14: Hernandez and Lloyd are together at a club called Rumor in Boston. Lloyd talks to a group of people Hernandez doesn't like. Hernandez gets upset. This is the motive for the murder, according to the prosecution.

Sunday night, June 16, 9:02 p.m.: Hernandez, at his home in North Attleborough, sends a text to two friends from Connecticut saying, "Please make it back."

9:05 p.m.: Hernandez texts Lloyd saying he wants to come by his house and get together.

9:35 p.m.: Hernandez texts his two friends, "Get your ass up here."

10:23 p.m.: Hernandez sends another text to his two friends, "Hurry your ass up." They arrive sometime after that.

Later that night: Hernandez is observed on his home surveillance system holding a gun and telling one of the two friends that he can't trust anyone anymore.

1:12 a.m.: Hernandez and the two friends leave his house in a rented silver Nissan Altima.

2:10 a.m.: They stop for gas on their way to Lloyd's house on Fayston Street in Boston. Hernandez buys gas as well as Bubblelicious bubble gum and Black & Mild rolling papers.


2:32 a.m.: The three of them arrive at Lloyd's house and text him, "We're here." Lloyd's sister sees him leave and get in the Nissan Altima.
During the drive: Hernandez tells Lloyd that he is upset that he was talking to those people at the club on Friday night.

3:07 a.m.: Lloyd texts his sister, "Did you see who I am with?"

3:11 a.m.: After she doesn't respond, he texts, "Hello?"

3:19 a.m.: His sister responds, "My phone was dead. Who?"

3:22 a.m.: Lloyd responds, "NFL."

3:23 a.m.: Lloyd texts his sister, "Just so you know."

3:23 a.m.: Hernandez's car is seen on a security camera driving to a secluded area in an industrial park. The area is used to store gravel and sand, and is out of the view of security cameras.

3:23-3:27 a.m.: Lloyd is shot five times with a .45-caliber semiautomatic weapon. He is shot three times and is still alive when he falls to the ground. He is then shot twice more in the back. Workers at a nearby industrial business hear gunshots.


3:28 a.m.: There is surveillance footage of the car leaving in the direction of Hernandez's house.

3:29 a.m.: Hernandez's car pulls up outside his house.

3:30 a.m.: The three men go into Hernandez's house. One of them is holding a semiautomatic gun. They go to the basement, and turn off the home security system. Six to eight hours of home surveillance footage goes missing.

The next day: Hernandez trades in his silver Nissan for a different rental car. The driver's side mirror is damaged, but Hernandez says he doesn't know how it happened. After Hernandez leaves, the rental car attendant finds a shell casing and a piece of chewed blue Bubblelicious gum under the driver's seat. The investigation reveals that the casing matches the casings at the crime scene, and the gum presumably belongs to Hernandez.

5:30 p.m.: Lloyd's body is found by a jogger.



Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/aaron-hernandez-murder-timeline-2013-6#ixzz2Yay6S1tK

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jacobo
07-09-2013, 07:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOwKAoVCYAAGRVl.jpg:large



who the fuck needs 2 cell phones and 3 tablets? his fortune would've lasted long if he actually finished his career

Vis
07-09-2013, 08:02 PM
ATTLEBORO, Mass. -- A man linked to the murder case against Aaron Hernandez told police that the former New England Patriots tight end admitted firing the fatal shots, and a vehicle wanted in a double killing in Boston one year before had been rented in Hernandez's name, according to documents filed Tuesday in Florida.

The documents say Hernandez associate Carlos Ortiz told Massachusetts investigators that another man, Ernest Wallace, said Hernandez admitted shooting semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd last month in an industrial park near Hernandez's home in North Attleborough. The documents were filed in court by the Miramar, Fla., police department to justify a search of Wallace's home in that city.

The documents also say that while investigating Lloyd's killing, police did searches in Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., that turned up a vehicle wanted in connection with a July 2012 double homicide in Boston. Police say the vehicle had been rented in Hernandez's name.

Hernandez has pleaded not guilty in Lloyd's killing. His legal team did not return email messages Tuesday.

Prosecutors say Hernandez, Wallace and another man drove with Lloyd to an industrial park where Lloyd was fatally shot.

Ortiz told police that, after picking up Lloyd, the four men headed back to North Attleborough. Along the way, Hernandez told Lloyd that Lloyd had been "chilling" with people Hernandez had problems with, the documents said. But Ortiz told police that the two men shook hands and the problem seemed smoothed over. Soon the car stopped, and everyone but Ortiz got out to urinate, according to Ortiz's account.

The witness also told police he then heard gunshots before Hernandez and Wallace got back into the car without Lloyd and the vehicle sped away.

Wallace faces an accessory-to-murder charge in the case and has pleaded not guilty.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000216990/article/aaron-hernandez-admitted-to-firing-fatal-shots-documents-say

So many problems with this story.

Prosecutors say Hernandez, Wallace and another man drove with Lloyd to an industrial park where Lloyd was fatally shot.

So Ortiz wasn't there. But wait:

Soon the car stopped, and everyone but Ortiz got out to urinate, according to Ortiz's account.

And if Wallace saw the shooting why did he have to say that Hernandez admitted it? He could have said he saw it. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. I hope the problem is with the reporter and not the official version of events.

ebsteelers
07-09-2013, 08:25 PM
ATTLEBORO, Mass. -- A man linked to the murder case against Aaron Hernandez told police that the former New England Patriots tight end admitted firing the fatal shots, and a vehicle wanted in a double killing in Boston one year before had been rented in Hernandez's name, according to documents filed Tuesday in Florida.

The documents say Hernandez associate Carlos Ortiz told Massachusetts investigators that another man, Ernest Wallace, said Hernandez admitted shooting semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd last month in an industrial park near Hernandez's home in North Attleborough. The documents were filed in court by the Miramar, Fla., police department to justify a search of Wallace's home in that city.

The documents also say that while investigating Lloyd's killing, police did searches in Hernandez's hometown of Bristol, Conn., that turned up a vehicle wanted in connection with a July 2012 double homicide in Boston. Police say the vehicle had been rented in Hernandez's name.

Hernandez has pleaded not guilty in Lloyd's killing. His legal team did not return email messages Tuesday.

Prosecutors say Hernandez, Wallace and another man drove with Lloyd to an industrial park where Lloyd was fatally shot.

Ortiz told police that, after picking up Lloyd, the four men headed back to North Attleborough. Along the way, Hernandez told Lloyd that Lloyd had been "chilling" with people Hernandez had problems with, the documents said. But Ortiz told police that the two men shook hands and the problem seemed smoothed over. Soon the car stopped, and everyone but Ortiz got out to urinate, according to Ortiz's account.

The witness also told police he then heard gunshots before Hernandez and Wallace got back into the car without Lloyd and the vehicle sped away.

Wallace faces an accessory-to-murder charge in the case and has pleaded not guilty.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000216990/article/aaron-hernandez-admitted-to-firing-fatal-shots-documents-say

So many problems with this story.



So Ortiz wasn't there. But wait:



And if Wallace saw the shooting why did he have to say that Hernandez admitted it? He could have said he saw it. The whole thing is a clusterfuck. I hope the problem is with the reporter and not the official version of events.


well with witnesses like that aaron will be back in the league before ya know it.. the one account makes it sound like there was 5 people there..

ortiz sounds like he is getting cold feet on ratting on his buddy it seems.. or he is just dumb

Atlanta Dan
07-09-2013, 09:13 PM
well with witnesses like that aaron will be back in the league before ya know it.. the one account makes it sound like there was 5 people there..

ortiz sounds like he is getting cold feet on ratting on his buddy it seems.. or he is just dumb

No worries - His lawyer will talk him through it - you only get a reduced sentence as a cooperating perp after the guy you flipped on is convicted and sentenced

Blackout
07-09-2013, 09:25 PM
http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/filestorage/aaron-hernandez-patriots-murder-tom-brady-sympathy-ecards-someecards.png

Actually that should read:

"Our deepest sympathies to his prison teammates, Tom Brady got to him first."

teegre
07-10-2013, 12:21 AM
What... like giving you murderous thoughts and making you shoot people? Oh wait....

It seems that Mr. Hernandez' psyche is already damaged. I doubt solitary confinement can do much more.

He went into jail as a murderer. He came out as a man afraid of the dark.

Prison is a bitch.

Vis
07-10-2013, 07:02 AM
Wallace told Ortiz that Hernandez admitted firing the shots

Posted by Mike Florio on July 9, 2013, 7:41 PM EDT

AP
On the same day authorities in Massachusetts released more than 150 pages of documents relating to eight search warrants obtained in connection with the murder of Odin Lloyd, documents generated in Florida contained a far more significant nugget of information.

According to the Associated Press, an affidavit filed in support of a request to search the Miramar, Florida residence at which Ernest Wallace was staying indicates that Carlos Ortiz told police that Wallace said Aaron Hernandez admitted firing the shots that killed Lloyd.

The chain of verbal communications — with Wallace telling Ortiz what Hernandez had told Wallace — seems odd in light of the apparent contention that all three men were in the car that carried Lloyd to the location where he was shot. Hernandez wouldn’t need to tell Wallace that Hernandez shot Lloyd, and Wallace wouldn’t need to tell Ortiz that Hernandez told Wallace that Hernandez shot Lloyd. Each man would know who did what, since they all were there.

Still, it’s the first document that alleges Hernandez did more than “orchestrate” the murder. According to the document filed in a Florida court, Hernandez actually committed it.

And it provides further proof that, no matter what Ortiz’s lawyer now says, Ortiz has been providing key information to the authorities.

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 09:21 AM
The chain of verbal communications — with Wallace telling Ortiz what Hernandez had told Wallace — seems odd in light of the apparent contention that all three men were in the car that carried Lloyd to the location where he was shot.

Hernandez wouldn’t need to tell Wallace that Hernandez shot Lloyd, and Wallace wouldn’t need to tell Ortiz that Hernandez told Wallace that Hernandez shot Lloyd. Each man would know who did what, since they all were there.


they are falling all over themselves trying to out-snitch the other but without the murder weapon it's one thug's word against the other

does it even matter who pulled the trigger ?- if you were in the car, you are guilty

NSMaster56
07-10-2013, 10:14 AM
who the fuck needs 2 cell phones and 3 tablets? his fortune would've lasted long if he actually finished his career

Nothing exceeds like excess.

ebsteelers
07-10-2013, 11:24 AM
No worries - His lawyer will talk him through it - you only get a reduced sentence as a cooperating perp after the guy you flipped on is convicted and sentenced

like killer mentioned above, if you were in the care how do you not know what happened?

i guess if they play the blame game they'll all get off.. who knows.. 3 chuckleheads

tony hipchest
07-10-2013, 11:47 AM
investigators to ortiz- "did you see hernandez kill odin?"

ortiz- "no. it was dark. They got out to piss and I stayed in the car."

"then how do you know hernandez pulled the trigger?"

ortiz- "wallace told me"

tony hipchest
07-10-2013, 11:53 AM
wallace to hernandez- "is that fucker dead? are you sure you killed him"

hernandez- "yeah i killed him fool! you just watched me put 5 slugs in dat ni***s ass! of course he's dead."

wallace- "good... we dont want to leave behind a live witness or any incriminating evidence that may get us busted".

its a very simple scenario to figure out. im not sure why so many are confused.

ebsteelers
07-10-2013, 12:02 PM
investigators to ortiz- "did you see hernandez kill odin?"

ortiz- "no. it was dark. They got out to piss and I stayed in the car."

"then how do you know hernandez pulled the trigger?"

ortiz- "wallace told me"

wallace to hernandez- "is that fucker dead? are you sure you killed him"

hernandez- "yeah i killed him fool! you just watched me put 5 slugs in dat ni***s ass! of course he's dead."

wallace- "good... we dont want to leave behind a live witness or any incriminating evidence that may get us busted".

its a very simple scenario to figure out. im not sure why so many are confused.



was tony in the car?

#tony is about that life

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 12:21 PM
the rest of the story


snitches going wild



Affidavit confirms Ortiz flipped on Hernandez, told them the whole story


Ortiz said that he and Wallace arrived at Hernandez’s home in North Attleboro just after midnight on June 17, 2013. Hernandez and Shayanna Jenkins weren’t home; a babysitter let Wallace and Ortiz into the home.

Ortiz saw “a small and large handgun” in the home, and when Hernandez returned with Jenkins, Ortiz saw Hernandez “carrying a handgun.”

The three men — Hernandez, Ortiz, and Wallace — left the home at 1:09 a.m., stopping once for gas and then picking up Odin Lloyd and traveling back to North Attleboro.

Ortiz told police that, on the drive back, “he overheard Mr. Hernandez state directly to Mr. Lloyd that he was ‘chilling’ with people that [Hernandez] had problems with.” Ortiz said that Hernandez and Lloyd “made up by ‘shaking hands’ and added that ‘it’ was squashed.”

Ortiz then fell asleep. He woke up when the vehicle stopped, and Ortiz saw the other three men — Hernandez, Wallace, and Lloyd — get out of the car “to urinate.”

Ortiz then heard gunshots.

Hernandez and Wallace got back in to the car “without Mr. Lloyd,” and the vehicle “fled” the scene.

Because he had been asleep and stayed in the car, Ortiz didn’t know who had fired the shots, which makes Monday’s report that Wallace told Ortiz that Hernandez fired the shots now more sensible.

When the vehicle returned to Hernandez’s house, Wallace asked Ortiz to get a small gun located under the rear of the driver’s seat. Ortiz got the gun, carried it inside, and gave it to Hernandez.

Ortiz said that he then went back to sleep.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

JonM229
07-10-2013, 12:28 PM
snitches going wild

Snitches get stitches

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 12:39 PM
I have a hard time believing this guy

3 guys go out, 2 come back, he hears a gunshot and then doesn't ask what just happened? He just goes back to sleep?

Really?


like I said before, does it even matter who pulled the trigger ?- if you were in the car, you are guilty of murder conspiracy

Vis
07-10-2013, 12:43 PM
I have a hard time believing this guy

3 guys go out, 2 come back, he hears a gunshot and then doesn't ask what just happened? He just goes back to sleep?

Really?


like I said before, does it even matter who pulled the trigger ?- if you were in the car, you are guilty of murder conspiracy

Hey you with the gun, let me quiz you.

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 12:47 PM
Hey you with the gun, let me quiz you.

you believe anybody

*Bang!*

a simple "WTF was that?" was too much for Rip Van Winkle-Ortiz?

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 01:02 PM
on the other hand...



Ortiz saw the other three men — Hernandez, Wallace, and Lloyd — get out of the car “to urinate.”

Ortiz then heard gunshots

Hernandez and Wallace got back in to the car “without Mr. Lloyd,” and the vehicle “fled” the scene



that's about all a jury needs to hear

Vis
07-10-2013, 01:06 PM
on the other hand...



Ortiz saw the other three men — Hernandez, Wallace, and Lloyd — get out of the car “to urinate.”

Ortiz then heard gunshots

Hernandez and Wallace got back in to the car “without Mr. Lloyd,” and the vehicle “fled” the scene



that's about all a jury needs to hear

We got out to pee and Lloyd got some on his new shoes. He grabbed my gun I had just for protection and, in a fit of footwear depression, shot himself 5 times.

ebsteelers
07-10-2013, 01:08 PM
We got out to pee and Lloyd got some on his new shoes. He grabbed my gun I had just for protection and, in a fit of footwear depression, shot himself 5 times.

true story... nothing like scuffle your sweet new pair of j's!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oohCQPABS7I

MasterOfPuppets
07-10-2013, 03:32 PM
I have a hard time believing this guy

3 guys go out, 2 come back, he hears a gunshot and then doesn't ask what just happened? He just goes back to sleep?

Really?


like I said before, does it even matter who pulled the trigger ?- if you were in the car, you are guilty of murder conspiracy
you don't think he already knew the purpose of the trip was to whack the dude ? do you think he thought they went out for gas and gum ?

JonM229
07-10-2013, 03:44 PM
you don't think he already knew the purpose of the trip was to whack the dude ? do you think he thought they went out for gas and gum ?

I thought they were on a weed run

ebsteelers
07-10-2013, 03:50 PM
you don't think he already knew the purpose of the trip was to whack the dude ? do you think he thought they went out for gas and gum ?

sometimes at night at 3am on a monday night, I go out for gas and gum, just in case

JonM229
07-10-2013, 03:52 PM
sometimes at night at 3am on a monday night, I go out for gas and gum, just in case I need to murder someone

fixed

Buddha Bus
07-10-2013, 04:41 PM
investigators to ortiz- "did you see hernandez kill odin?"

ortiz- "no. it was dark. They got out to piss and I stayed in the car."

"then how do you know hernandez pulled the trigger?"

ortiz- "wallace told me"

Oh great... another damned Wallace thread. :doh:



sometimes at night at 3am on a monday night, I go out for gas and gum, just in case

That's all MacGyver would need to assemble a thermonuclear device in a pinch.

pczach
07-10-2013, 05:16 PM
Oh great... another damned Wallace thread. :doh:





That's all MacGyver would need to assemble a thermonuclear device in a pinch.


There's no escaping him.

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4574124075911744&pid=15.1

Stanley
07-10-2013, 08:54 PM
Remember the scene in Godfather when they took Pauly for a ride?
Clemenza told Pauly to pull down a side road and Clemenza got out of the car to take a leak and Rocco shot Pauly in the back of the head.

I can see Hernandez' defense now. His mind was warped from watching too many old ganster movies.
:hatsoff:

Fire Haley
07-10-2013, 09:28 PM
Will there be riots after his trial?

I wonder

MACH1
07-10-2013, 11:10 PM
Not that kind of riot.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTypNmadZRwkIkNDr0D963wEi-R5vTrTOuhXlD4hc7Ah7_D9AOeuA

MasterOfPuppets
07-10-2013, 11:58 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/449151da1ac8f360658fc348be2406c8/tumblr_mkwn9qZQsp1s0brdvo1_400.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
07-10-2013, 11:59 PM
http://humorousfunnyjokes.com/wp-content/uploads/sex-in-months.jpg

MasterOfPuppets
07-11-2013, 12:00 AM
http://media.veryfunnypics.eu/2013/05/funny-pictures-surprise-sex-is-the-best-sex-to-wake-up-to-unless-youre-in-prison.jpg

Atlanta Dan
07-11-2013, 07:52 AM
I thought they were on a weed run

Sounds like Ortiz never went anywhere without it

Court records show that Ortiz's criminal record includes convictions for larceny, assault, criminal mischief and interfering with an officer, according to a USA Today report.

In May, Ortiz told his probation officer that he "was abusing PCP, alcohol and THC daily," police said in an affidavit for a parole violation arrest obtained by the newspaper.

Ortiz then failed to attend a mandatory in-patient drug-abuse program over the course of the next month, the affidavit said, and later tested positive for alcohol, cocaine, PCP and THC.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9468656/aaron-hernandez-cohort-police-record-drug-abuse-report-says

Atlanta Dan
07-11-2013, 07:54 AM
Meanwhile, further news confirming how the Patriot Way makes you a better person

New England Patriots cornerback Alfonzo Dennard was arrested early Thursday morning in Lincoln, Neb. on suspicion of driving under the influence, the Omaha World-Herald reported.

Police say Dennard was pulled over around 2 a.m. and cited with suspicion of DUI, refusing a chemical test, and a driving infraction, according to the report.

Dennard was placed on two years probation in March after being convicted for felony assault on a police officer in an April 2012 incident, prior to being drafted by the Patriots. He will also serve a 30-day jail sentence beginning Mach 1, 2014 for that conviction.

It's unclear how Thursday's arrest will affect Dennard's probation status or his delayed jail sentence.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/9469110/new-england-patriots-cb-alfonzo-dennard-arrested-dui-case-report-says

Vis
07-11-2013, 10:32 AM
https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/s526x296/968815_207268612761588_710866248_n.png

JonM229
07-11-2013, 11:55 AM
I wonder what Browns RB Dion Lewis (who?) had to say about the Hernandez case:

http://i.imgur.com/4eTM6JE.png

The tweet has since been taken down

NSMaster56
07-11-2013, 04:21 PM
It never ceases to be amusing how the concept of 'snitching' is considered among the worst offenses (for criminals).

Selling/doing drugs? Okay.

Murder? No biggie.

Getting caught (red handed)? It happens.

Telling the truth said acts? DIE!!!!

Buddha Bus
07-11-2013, 04:40 PM
It never ceases to be amusing how the concept of 'snitching' is considered among the worst offenses (for criminals).

Selling/doing drugs? Okay.

Murder? No biggie.

Getting caught (red handed)? It happens.

Telling the truth said acts? DIE!!!!

I've always thought the same thing. It's cool to enlist kids to deal crack and beat and rob elderly women, but if you tattle, you are scum of the earth. Fucking lowlife idiots. :doh:

Buddha Bus
07-11-2013, 05:01 PM
Rob Gronkowski on NFL crimes: 'Ask Roger Goodell'
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
Published: July 11, 2013 at 12:14 p.m.

New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski emerged from hiding Thursday just in time to answer questions about his team's latest off-the-field problems.

Gronk's former tight end tag-team partner, Aaron Hernandez, is in jail after being charged with murder and Patriots cornerback Alfonzo Dennard was arrested and cited for driving under the influence in Lincoln, Neb., on Thursday.

Gronkowski, who did not have a cast on his surgically repaired arm, said he was in "great spirits" Thursday while promoting his book "Growing up Gronk," but he had less to say when NFL.com's Albert Breer asked him about the league's crime problems.

"Ask Roger Goodell," Gronkowski said.

As for Dennard and Hernandez, Gronkowski said, "I don't have any comment on that."

(Read More:) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217269/article/rob-gronkowski-on-nfl-crimes-ask-roger-goodell

__________________________________________________ ____________________________



Humorous observations:

1) New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski emerged from hiding Thursday just in time to answer questions about his team's latest off-the-field problems.

Followed by:

As for Dennard and Hernandez, Gronkowski said, "I don't have any comment on that."

Great article. :doh:

2) "Growing Up Gronk"? When did this man-child "grow up"? And am I the only one who thinks all of these lame-ass football nicknames are getting exceedingly narcissistic and stupid (T.O., T-Sizzle, Sanchise, ARodg, Matty Ice, Revis Island)?:noidea:

There are some cool ones (Megatron, Muscle Hamster, Debo), but the ones with a shortened hybrid version just annoy me for some reason. Maybe this belongs in the "Unpopular opinions...." thread. :chuckle:

3) Gronk's former tight end tag-team partner, Aaron Hernandez....

Yeah... now he has a new tight end tag-team partner in prison named Bubba.

Atlanta Dan
07-11-2013, 05:02 PM
I've always thought the same thing. It's cool to enlist kids to deal crack and beat and rob elderly women, but if you tattle, you are scum of the earth. Fucking lowlife idiots. :doh:

Happens with players on the best of teams:coffee:

ryan clark

@RealRClark25

Whoever is snitching on the Saints D should be ashamed of themselves. No one was talking about the "bounty" when they got paid. #shame!
2 Mar 12

http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com.php5-12.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/index.php/sports/bob-smiziks-blog/32148-steelers-clark-players-who-revealed-bounties-should-be-ashamed

Buddha Bus
07-11-2013, 05:13 PM
Happens with players on the best of teams:coffee:

ryan clark

@RealRClark25

Whoever is snitching on the Saints D should be ashamed of themselves. No one was talking about the "bounty" when they got paid. #shame!
2 Mar 12

http://communityvoices.sites.post-gazette.com.php5-12.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/index.php/sports/bob-smiziks-blog/32148-steelers-clark-players-who-revealed-bounties-should-be-ashamed

I'm speaking more about societal criminal behavior. It's still mind-numbing that Clark (or anyone else) would somehow defend negligent or dangerous behavior on the football field, especially when it could be your own neck that is getting protected by it coming to light and being cracked down on. If it's for a greater good, then it shouldn't be frowned upon or ridiculed.

Atlanta Dan
07-11-2013, 05:25 PM
I'm speaking more about societal criminal behavior. It's still mind-numbing that Clark (or anyone else) would somehow defend negligent or dangerous behavior on the football field, especially when it could be your own neck that is getting protected by it coming to light and being cracked down on. If it's for a greater good, then it shouldn't be frowned upon or ridiculed.

Bountygate obviously was not murder, but if you tell someone I will pay you if you injure someone that is a conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, which is a crime even though no prosecutor in New Orleans would ever go there

Buddha Bus
07-11-2013, 06:07 PM
Bountygate obviously was not murder, but if you tell someone I will pay you if you injure someone that is a conspiracy to commit aggravated assault, which is a crime even though no prosecutor in New Orleans would ever go there

As I said, I don't agree with it, but compared to robbery, drug dealing, murder, rape, etc. paying football players to knock an opposing player out of a game is hardly on the same level. I realize that it's tantamount to aggravated assault, but considering the setting and the fact that I doubt they were attempting to permanently injure or kill someone, as you said, no one will touch that.

We were talking more about the "thug culture" that seems to approve of some of the most heinous crimes you can think of, but thinks something that is legal and prevents that type of awful behavior is much worse. I agree that both the thug life theory of morals and the morals behind Bountygate were both harmful, shameful, and worthy of "snitching" on.

ebsteelers
07-12-2013, 08:06 AM
Rob Gronkowski on NFL crimes: 'Ask Roger Goodell'
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
Published: July 11, 2013 at 12:14 p.m.

New England Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski emerged from hiding Thursday just in time to answer questions about his team's latest off-the-field problems.

Gronk's former tight end tag-team partner, Aaron Hernandez, is in jail after being charged with murder and Patriots cornerback Alfonzo Dennard was arrested and cited for driving under the influence in Lincoln, Neb., on Thursday.

Gronkowski, who did not have a cast on his surgically repaired arm, said he was in "great spirits" Thursday while promoting his book "Growing up Gronk," but he had less to say when NFL.com's Albert Breer asked him about the league's crime problems.

"Ask Roger Goodell," Gronkowski said.

As for Dennard and Hernandez, Gronkowski said, "I don't have any comment on that."

(Read More:) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000217269/article/rob-gronkowski-on-nfl-crimes-ask-roger-goodell

__________________________________________________ ____________________________



Humorous observations:

1)

Followed by:



Great article. :doh:

2) "Growing Up Gronk"? When did this man-child "grow up"? And am I the only one who thinks all of these lame-ass football nicknames are getting exceedingly narcissistic and stupid (T.O., T-Sizzle, Sanchise, ARodg, Matty Ice, Revis Island)?:noidea:

There are some cool ones (Megatron, Muscle Hamster, Debo), but the ones with a shortened hybrid version just annoy me for some reason. Maybe this belongs in the "Unpopular opinions...." thread. :chuckle:

3)

Yeah... now he has a new tight end tag-team partner in prison named Bubba.

I watched them talk to Gronk... I found him to be pretty funny, seems like a good dude to party with, but also comes off as the typical airhead football player..

I loved him dancing after Super Bowl XLVI,

I just picture Gronk and me hitting up the club dancing and leaving with like 85 chicks

SETTING THE DANCE FLOOR ON FIRE!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2h4PhgobI8

NSMaster56
07-12-2013, 01:35 PM
We were talking more about the "thug culture" that seems to approve of some of the most heinous crimes you can think of, but thinks something that is legal and prevents that type of awful behavior is much worse.

Not just modern 'thug', since it also applies to old Mafiasos.

Some frats and certain corporate/government agencies have similar 'good old boy' mentalities.

It's odd how, at their roots, some people can be so amoral (not to say I am not).

Atlanta Dan
07-12-2013, 01:55 PM
Not just modern 'thug', since it also applies to old Mafiasos.

Some frats and certain corporate/government agencies have similar 'good old boy' mentalities.

As do certain Wall Street hedge funds

Wall Street hedge fund titan Steven A. Cohen is reportedly poised to avoid federal insider trading charges because U.S. prosecutors don’t believe they have enough evidence to bring a case against the billionaire financial mogul. The anti-climactic dénouement to the federal government’s multi-year investigation into Cohen, and his firm SAC Capital, is a striking setback for the politically ambitious Manhattan U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara...

“Steve Cohen is the Teflon Don of Wall Street,” said Bill Singer, a partner at New York–based securities-law firm Herskovits and a veteran Wall Street defense attorney. “Unless you have a smoking gun, like a phone conversation or an informing witness, these cases are very difficult to prove....

The U.S. government has been investigating SAC Capital for several years, but the feds don’t believe they have enough evidence to bring criminal charges against Cohen, according to the Journal. Last November, the U.S. charged one of SAC’s former portfolio managers, Mathew Martoma, with orchestrating a $276 million insider trading fraud. Martoma is charged with trading illegally on information he obtained from a University of Michigan doctor involved in an important pharmaceutical drug trial in 2008. Martoma was a SAC investment portfolio manager, reporting directly to Cohen.

When the FBI showed up at Martoma’s Florida mansion last fall, the Stanford Business School graduate fainted on his front lawn. But the feds apparently have thus far not succeeded in convincing Martoma to testify against Cohen, his former boss, ahead of a five-year July statute-of-limitations deadline to bring charges against the hedge fund mogul.

http://business.time.com/2013/07/05/steve-cohen-walks-wall-street-billionaire-set-to-dodge-u-s-charges/

Atlanta Dan
07-14-2013, 09:40 AM
WTF? :jawdrop:

I went to Deadspin to catch up on how many more professional athletes issued moronic tweets following the Zimmerman verdict and found this:banging:

Not Everyone Is Turning Their Backs On Aaron Hernandez

@Deadspin Pouncey Bros rocking Free Hernandez hats in the club pic.twitter.com/WkTN7VfRII
10:11 AM - 14 Jul 2013

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPI-NCpCMAEksoG.jpg

Apparently this would have been at the Pouncey brothers' birthday party last night

http://deadspin.com/not-everyone-is-turning-their-backs-on-aaron-hernandez-776847596#replies

Maurkice Pouncey is developing an impressive track record of being an off the field jackass

GBMelBlount
07-14-2013, 09:44 AM
WTF? Squared.

Pretty sick stuff if you ask me.

Buddha Bus
07-14-2013, 09:45 AM
WTF? :jawdrop:

I went to Deadspin to catch up on how many more professional athletes issued moronic tweets following the Zimmerman verdict and found this:banging:

Not Everyone Is Turning Their Backs On Aaron Hernandez

@Deadspin Pouncey Bros rocking Free Hernandez hats in the club pic.twitter.com/WkTN7VfRII
10:11 AM - 14 Jul 2013

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BPI-NCpCMAEksoG.jpg

Apparently this would have been at the Pouncey brothers' birthday party last night

http://deadspin.com/not-everyone-is-turning-their-backs-on-aaron-hernandez-776847596#replies

Maurkice Pouncey is developing an impressive track record of being an off the field jackass



:doh: :doh: :doh:

One for each of the idiots in that picture. Really? :shake02:

SteelersCanada
07-14-2013, 10:15 AM
Why Maurkice? Why?

ebsteelers
07-14-2013, 07:30 PM
if your gonna kill somebody do it in Florida.. Anthony, Zimmerman, Hernandez shooting people and not getting mentioned.. yikes

Vis
07-14-2013, 08:44 PM
Source: Steelers to talk to Pouncey
By John Clayton
ESPN.com

Photographs of Pittsburgh Steelers center Maurkice Pouncey and Miami Dolphins center Mike Pouncey wearing ballcaps that say "Free Hernandez" began circulating on the Internet on Sunday. The photos, seen in multiple angles, do not appear to be digitally altered.

The Pouncey brothers, who are twins, played with former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez at the University of Florida. They were with Hernandez at the Venue nightclub in 2007 on the night of a shooting that left two men wounded. Hernandez was briefly questioned by police after the shooting, but at the time they did not see him as a suspect.

The Steelers are not commenting on the photos, but according to a source they plan to talk to Maurkice Pouncey about the photos. A source close to Mike Pouncey expects the Dolphins to have a similar talk with the team's starting center.

Hernandez is charged with the execution-style murder of 27-year-old semi-pro football player Odin Lloyd and is being held without bail. He has pleaded not guilty. The Patriots released the tight end last month after he was arrested.

GBMelBlount
07-14-2013, 08:52 PM
Just out of curiosity, is Pouncey's brother any good?

Atlanta Dan
07-14-2013, 09:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, is Pouncey's brother any good?

Pete Prisco at CBS Sports.com says he is the best center in the league

Mike Pouncey, C, Miami Dolphins: His brother got more attention last season, but this Pouncey was the best center in the league.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/22240365/nfl-top-100-on-a-list-loaded-with-quarterbacks-rodgers-is-clear-no-1

caplovestroyp43
07-14-2013, 10:07 PM
:doh: :doh: :doh:

One for each of the idiots in that picture. Really? :shake02:

Couldn't agree with you more on that one. Stupid, stupid, stupid!!!!

ebsteelers
07-14-2013, 10:30 PM
Just out of curiosity, is Pouncey's brother any good?

I think the thing with Mike and Maurkice well for any center in that matter, the less you hear about linemen on the field the better off is how I look at it.. I also hear how everyone thinks Maurkice is the best center in the league and you really don't notice it because he is always doing his job.. but as soon as the center fucks up, its very noticeable, its really a hard position to say how great someone is at it, but you can definitely tell when a guy stinks up there

JPPT1974
07-14-2013, 11:11 PM
Pats looking at the Apple stuff there, looks like he collects lots of tech stuff!

PATS16N0
07-15-2013, 01:02 AM
Let this thread die already.

I've already basically forgotten this guy was ever a Patriot.

Buddha Bus
07-15-2013, 03:57 AM
Let this thread die already.


Like Hernandez did all of those people?

Did you make that comment as a softball set-up for us? :sofunny:


I've already basically forgotten this guy was ever a Patriot.


Well, by all means then, if you're tired of it and no longer want to discuss it then everyone else should just drop it. I mean, it's not like Patriots* fans have ever been insufferable douche bags and beaten a dead horse in regards to "Rapelisburger" or Ray "The Knife" Lewis. I guess when that impenetrable curtain of "The Patriot* Way" drops and reveals some horrible ugliness inside, they want to try to just ignore it and hope it goes away?:noidea:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubIpoPjBUds

Vis
07-15-2013, 04:43 AM
http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2013/07/14/22/34/QKaF1.Em.56.jpeg

Atlanta Dan
07-15-2013, 08:21 AM
This from Peter King's MMQB column this morning

"Aaron Hernandez's lawyers just filed a motion to have his trial moved to Sanford, Florida.''

-- @HubbuchNYP, Bart Hubbuch of the New York Post.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl/news/20130715/johnny-manziel-aaron-hernandez-monday-morning-quarterback/index.html

teegre
07-15-2013, 10:05 AM
http://media.miamiherald.com/smedia/2013/07/14/22/34/QKaF1.Em.56.jpeg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0AmeXp5_M

Hat... free a murderer... this is the perfect follow-up (to that pic) on so many levels.

tony hipchest
07-15-2013, 12:21 PM
Let this thread die already.

I've already basically forgotten this guy was ever a Patriot.this reminds me of spygate when patfans were crying to drop the subject before sanctions were even handed out.

Roger goodell fined dan rooney over some bullshit and suspended james harrison and ben over bullshit as well.

the hypocrite goodell also said he would start fining and even taking draft picks away from teams and executives for "tarnishing the sheild" or conduct detrimental...

the patriots are repeat offenders in the worst way yet goodell fondles krafts nuts as he coddles him to sleep every night. its bad enough you got the owner and star TE doing photoshoots with porn stars.

what about the repeated drafting and trading for gun toting, police battering players?

the subject definitely doesnt need to be dropped until goodell can prove he is not such a hypocritical POS.

fansince'76
07-15-2013, 12:31 PM
this reminds me of spygate when patfans were crying to drop the subject before sanctions were even handed out.

Roger goodell fined dan rooney over some bullshit and suspended james harrison and ben over bullshit as well.

the hypocrite goodell also said he would start fining and even taking draft picks away from teams and executives for "tarnishing the sheild" or conduct detrimental...

the patriots are repeat offenders in the worst way yet goodell fondles krafts nuts as he coddles him to sleep every night. its bad enough you got the owner and star TE doing photoshoots with porn stars.

what about the repeated drafting and trading for gun toting, police battering players?

the subject definitely doesnt need to be dropped until goodell can prove he is not such a hypocritical POS.

If Kraft was walking and came to a sudden stop he'd wind up with Goodell's face halfway up his ass.

Fact of the matter is that the Rooneys are part of the last vestiges of the league's "old guard" that Goodell would like nothing more to get rid of. Why they continue to support the dickhead is beyond me.

Buddha Bus
07-15-2013, 12:33 PM
this reminds me of spygate when patfans were crying to drop the subject before sanctions were even handed out.

Roger goodell fined dan rooney over some bullshit and suspended james harrison and ben over bullshit as well.

the hypocrite goodell also said he would start fining and even taking draft picks away from teams and executives for "tarnishing the sheild" or conduct detrimental...

the patriots are repeat offenders in the worst way yet goodell fondles krafts nuts as he coddles him to sleep every night. its bad enough you got the owner and star TE doing photoshoots with porn stars.

what about the repeated drafting and trading for gun toting, police battering players?

the subject definitely doesnt need to be dropped until goodell can prove he is not such a hypocritical POS.

http://www.rugusavay.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Roger-Goodell-Quotes-3.jpg

http://global3.memecdn.com/roger-goodell_o_317293.jpg

Atlanta Dan
07-15-2013, 12:49 PM
Let this thread die already.

I've already basically forgotten this guy was ever a Patriot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgic

Buddha Bus
07-15-2013, 12:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSjK2Oqrgic

I guess now's a bad time to tell him that he won't forget. We'll be here to remind him every day for the next 25 years to life. :sofunny:

Lady Steel
07-15-2013, 11:29 PM
I've already basically forgotten this guy was ever a Patriot.


We haven't, and probably won't. :chuckle:

Fire Haley
07-17-2013, 10:03 AM
Carlos Ortiz, a/k/a Dead Man Walking.....

Fascinating


Hernandez accomplice labeled a 'rat' in his neighborhood

Kevin Manahan, USA TODAY July 15, 2013

BRISTOL, Conn. — Carlos Ortiz used to hang on Davis Drive. He was an adopted son, of sorts — a guy who slept on couches often enough to become part of the neighborhood family. He was there for birthday parties and baby showers and Fourth of July barbecues, when everyone pulled their lawn chairs and grills into the street, cooked and drank all day, hosed down sweaty kids and set off fireworks when the sun went down.

"Charlie" or "Charlie Boy," as he is known, has a 4-year-old son with a woman who lives there — one of three children he has fathered with three women in his 27 years, friends say. He knows almost everyone who lives in the area by their street names and by their "government" — the birth names that few go by.

Police knew they could find him there, too. So, many times he has run from them when cruisers rolled down and around the horseshoe-shaped street of boxy, Section 8 housing, looking for him on a warrant for a stolen bike or vandalism or some petty theft. And Davis Drive residents would cover for him: Charlie? Nope, haven't seen him.

"He was," Ortiz's cousin Jose "Ito" Torres said, "one of us."

Was.

Ortiz — who appears to be the prosecution's star witness in the murder case against former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez — has had his membership revoked in the DooWops, the nickname for the Davis Drive family, because, Torres says, he is a snitch.

So, if the case is headed where some legal experts believe and Ortiz is granted immunity to help prosecutors convict Hernandez of the execution-style murder of Odin Lloyd, Ortiz should think about staying out of the old neighborhood when and if he's a free man again, his cousin said.

"He can come back here," Torres said, "but if you come back to the streets where everybody thinks you're hard but you've been snitching ..." His voice trails off. He doesn't want to say the words.

It's not just that Ortiz apparently is cooperating with authorities, Torres said. He is flipping on Hernandez, the guy from Bristol who became an NFL star with a $40 million contract. Not many from Bristol made it as big as Hernandez did, and Ortiz is threatening to put him away for life. He's violating the code.

"That's Aaron Hernandez," Amber Schryer said from the couch where she would let Ortiz crash. "You tell the police you don't know anything."

(more)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/07/14/hernandez-accomplice-cant-go-home-again/2516547/

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ebsteelers
07-17-2013, 10:25 AM
Carlos Ortiz, a/k/a Dead Man Walking.....

Fascinating


Hernandez accomplice labeled a 'rat' in his neighborhood

Kevin Manahan, USA TODAY July 15, 2013

BRISTOL, Conn. — Carlos Ortiz used to hang on Davis Drive. He was an adopted son, of sorts — a guy who slept on couches often enough to become part of the neighborhood family. He was there for birthday parties and baby showers and Fourth of July barbecues, when everyone pulled their lawn chairs and grills into the street, cooked and drank all day, hosed down sweaty kids and set off fireworks when the sun went down.

"Charlie" or "Charlie Boy," as he is known, has a 4-year-old son with a woman who lives there — one of three children he has fathered with three women in his 27 years, friends say. He knows almost everyone who lives in the area by their street names and by their "government" — the birth names that few go by.

Police knew they could find him there, too. So, many times he has run from them when cruisers rolled down and around the horseshoe-shaped street of boxy, Section 8 housing, looking for him on a warrant for a stolen bike or vandalism or some petty theft. And Davis Drive residents would cover for him: Charlie? Nope, haven't seen him.

"He was," Ortiz's cousin Jose "Ito" Torres said, "one of us."

Was.

Ortiz — who appears to be the prosecution's star witness in the murder case against former New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez — has had his membership revoked in the DooWops, the nickname for the Davis Drive family, because, Torres says, he is a snitch.

So, if the case is headed where some legal experts believe and Ortiz is granted immunity to help prosecutors convict Hernandez of the execution-style murder of Odin Lloyd, Ortiz should think about staying out of the old neighborhood when and if he's a free man again, his cousin said.

"He can come back here," Torres said, "but if you come back to the streets where everybody thinks you're hard but you've been snitching ..." His voice trails off. He doesn't want to say the words.

It's not just that Ortiz apparently is cooperating with authorities, Torres said. He is flipping on Hernandez, the guy from Bristol who became an NFL star with a $40 million contract. Not many from Bristol made it as big as Hernandez did, and Ortiz is threatening to put him away for life. He's violating the code.

"That's Aaron Hernandez," Amber Schryer said from the couch where she would let Ortiz crash. "You tell the police you don't know anything."

(more)
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/07/14/hernandez-accomplice-cant-go-home-again/2516547/

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http://cdn0.meme.li/instances/300x300/39186961.jpg

Code of the Streets

http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/a0d/a19/07b/resized/joe-paterno-meme-generator-snitches-get-stitches-34d6cb.jpg

Fire Haley
07-17-2013, 10:48 AM
"Code of the streets" my ass

Typical hood rat POS attitude. Fuck the guy murdered in cold blood, we gotta make sure we honor our "code"


...and Charlie boy ain't no boy scout - but he's all they got

further down in that article..

With a criminal record and drug history, Ortiz's credibility likely will come under fire by Hernandez's attorneys. In an affidavit for Ortiz's arrest on a probation violation, police said that on May 21, when he reported to his probation officer, Ortiz "disclosed that he was abusing PCP, alcohol and THC daily." That drug use was confirmed by a failed drug test, police said

fansince'76
07-17-2013, 10:52 AM
Hernandez's high-dollar lawyers are going to make mincemeat of "Charlie Boy."

Fire Haley
07-17-2013, 11:24 AM
Hernandez's high-dollar lawyers are going to make mincemeat of "Charlie Boy."

ayep - he's been good for squeezing info from (like the rented apartment) but he has zero credibility in a trial

Vis
07-17-2013, 12:13 PM
ayep - he's been good for squeezing info from (like the rented apartment) but he has zero credibility in a trial

His credibility is fine if the physical evidence backs him up. And he's not claiming to just be a witness, he's someone Hernandez chose to hang out with. Wait until he testifies why that is, what he supplied to NFL. Hernandez will have the same taint.

Fire Haley
07-17-2013, 12:26 PM
but can Charlie boy stay alive for a year or more until the trial starts so he can testify - that is the question

Buddha Bus
07-17-2013, 04:28 PM
Seems as though Pats*18N1 isn't the only one who doesn't want to talk about Hernandez anymore. :chuckle:


__________________________________________________ ________________



Rob Gronkowski will not discuss Aaron Hernandez
By Gregg Rosenthal
Around The League Editor
Published: July 17, 2013 at 05:04 p.m.

The first rule of the New England Patriots' media policy: Don't talk about the problems of former New England Patriots players. The "CBS This Morning" news show learned that Wednesday during an uncomfortable open to a segment with tight end Rob Gronkowski.

Gronk, who is out promoting a book, is lucky that his brothers and father were with him. Their laughter helped to ease the tension in the situation before Gronkowski got up, almost left, and then returned when the reporter promised to change the subject.

(Read More and Watch Video:) http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000218490/article/rob-gronkowski-will-not-discuss-aaron-hernandez

JonM229
07-17-2013, 06:34 PM
Gronkowski probably wished they asked him about his relationship with Bibi Jones

Atlanta Dan
07-17-2013, 08:10 PM
I thought Gronk actually handled the Hernandez question pretty well

"Next question - I learned that from Drew Rosenhaus":chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHaZiVNjigA

Note the father did not take the bait either

His agent Rosenhaus did a better job of prepping Gronk and his family for that interview than the prosecutors did in prepping some of their witnesses for the Zimmerman trial

Thank God nobody was conducting interviews at the Pouncey twins birthday party

PATS16N0
07-17-2013, 11:21 PM
It's not that he was a Patriot.
I just have Hernandez burn out and can only talk about mass murdering street trash for so long.

Even if he was a Jet I'd have gotten my kicks in on this a long, long time ago.
The moment he got arrested and the mountain of evidence came down he ceased to be a Patriot to me and was just a drafting mistake and a shit bag from the hood.

Vis
07-18-2013, 04:28 PM
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/1069155_573480712690220_25972804_n.jpg

43Hitman
07-20-2013, 10:34 AM
What did PATS16N0 do to get banned?

Edit: Never mind I found the thread. Wow.

Atlanta Dan
07-20-2013, 11:33 AM
What did PATS16N0 do to get banned?

Edit: Never mind I found the thread. Wow.

Yep - Wow:chuckle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FONN-0uoTHI

Fire Haley
07-21-2013, 10:34 AM
What it’s like for Aaron Hernandez in jail

Awaiting trial, former Patriot adjusts to the confines of incarceration

When the thick cellblock doors clang shut, the sound is more jarring than the muskets fired after every Patriots score at Gillette Stadium.

His uniform is now dark green, the color of pretrial prisoners. They look like New York Jets colors.

“Every Sunday he went into a stadium where thousands of people cheered him and revered him,’’ “In an instant he walks through our door, gets a new uniform, a longer number, and nobody’s cheering for him.”

Here, adoring fans are hard to come by. It’s clear from the comments of his fellow inmates, many in their early 20s, that there isn’t a lot of sympathy for Hernandez.

“He’s a punk,” says one young inmate wearing the tan uniform of the convicted. “He’s a bum,” says another. “I don’t care about him,’’ says a third inmate. “I’m worried about myself.”

(more)

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/07/15/life-inside-prison-for-aaron-hernandez/k5GQZjyKZvy5aRgnZ3ndFL/story.html

Buddha Bus
07-21-2013, 05:13 PM
Mike Pouncey won't discuss cap
Updated: July 21, 2013, 5:49 PM ET
Associated Press

DAVIE, Fla. -- Miami Dolphins center Mike Pouncey declined to join twin brother Maurkice in apologizing for wearing a baseball cap that supported former college teammate Aaron Hernandez, who has been charged with murder.

Brothers Maurkice and Mike Pouncey wear "Free Hernandez" hats, an apparent gesture of support to former University of Florida teammate Aaron Hernandez.

The Pounceys were photographed during their recent birthday party in Miami wearing caps that read "Free Hernandez."

Hernandez, a former New England Patriots tight end, played with the Pounceys at the University of Florida in 2007-09. Hernandez is charged with murder in Massachusetts and has pleaded not guilty.

Following the Dolphins' first training camp practice Sunday, Mike Pouncey said he didn't want to discuss his cap.

"I'm just here to focus on football," he said. Later he added, "We get paid a lot of money to act a certain way, and that's the way we should be acting."


(Read More:) http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9497131/mike-pouncey-miami-dolphins-discuss-free-hernandez-cap

__________________________________________________ _______________________

Well... at least it seems we got the slightly smarter one. :noidea:

Atlanta Dan
07-21-2013, 08:32 PM
Well... at least it seems we got the slightly smarter one. :noidea:

Or the smarter front office that told him to try and run away from that conduct ASAP - my bet is Maurkice and/or his agent heard from Tomlin or someone in the front office within 8 hours of that photo going viral

Buddha Bus
07-21-2013, 08:35 PM
Or the smarter front office - my bet is Maurkice and/or his agent heard from Tomlin or someone in the front office within 8 hours of that photo going viral

I was thinking that as well. I'm sure he got a harder "push" from the Steelers brass to apologize than what Mike got in Miami.

Is it too late to just saw Florida off the map and let it sink into the Gulf?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krnnErGzIsY

ebsteelers
07-22-2013, 07:46 AM
Or the smarter front office that told him to try and run away from that conduct ASAP - my bet is Maurkice and/or his agent heard from Tomlin or someone in the front office within 8 hours of that photo going viral

8 hours?

umm Mike Tomlin was the one taking the picture, I mean it was a party for Rooneys birthday right???