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tony hipchest
08-28-2006, 11:48 AM
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9620047
:sofunny: (this article has been edited for pertinance and for space constraints but heres the good stuff):bouncy: :


Before owner Robert Kraft purchased the team, the Patriots were a dysfunctional, disgusting mess.

The games never sold out. Not one sellout in the decades before Kraft. The games were rarely on television because of blackouts. No one cared. People heard Patriots and released a gigantic yawn. Twenty-one thousand season ticket holders at one point. That's it. That's all. More people attended Harvard-Yale crew.

The Patriots games, and that old clunker stadium they used to play in, were also not exactly a family friendly place. Some fans had the manners of a Mexican drug lord. There were constant rumbles in the stands, all-out, knock-down brawls between too many drunken goons. A small group of fans used to take thick, D-cell size batteries, wrap them in fat, pregnant snowballs, put the snowballs in the freezer the night before games to get them concrete hard, and then throw them at the players as they came out or entered the tunnel.

At the Patriots players. Not the visiting ones. Many players would be sure to have their helmets on whenever they were entering or exiting the tunnel to avoid the dangerous bombardment of weaponized snowballs.

While standing on the sideline once, I got hit in the back with one of those snowballs thrown by a turd that had better aim than Wade Boggs. "Hey n-----," yelled the drunken culprit, "go back to Africa." A security guard was nearby and saw the whole episode. He did nothing, knowing that if he did, he might get his butt kicked, since the paltry security force at the time was outmanned and maybe even outgunned.

And so it went for those Patriots. They lost, they lost again, and then they lost some more. There was that one bright pre-Kraft moment, when the team went to a Super Bowl, but that game turned into a disastrous blowout at the hands of the dancing and rapping Chicago Bears. The embarrassing loss only cemented the Patriots' pecking order in Boston major sports by the early 1990s. It went Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins and Patriots.

The best ownership in all of sports history is the Rooney family of Pittsburgh Steelers fame, a family that has won championships over generations. George Steinbrenner of the Yankees, Jerry Buss of the Lakers, Eddie DeBartolo of the 49ers, the Mara family of the New York Giants, Bill Veeck of the Cleveland Indians, and several others are high on the list.

HometownGal
08-28-2006, 12:08 PM
The best ownership in all of sports history is the Rooney family of Pittsburgh Steelers fame, a family that has won championships over generations. George Steinbrenner of the Yankees, Jerry Buss of the Lakers, Eddie DeBartolo of the 49ers, the Mara family of the New York Giants, Bill Veeck of the Cleveland Indians, and several others are high on the list.


What is most noteworthy in the above statement is that the Rooneys accomplished all they have without the benefit of a huge bankroll as Stinkbrenner, Buss, DeBartolo and the Mara family had. Classiest and most beloved organization in the NFL and well deserved. :cool:

Cape Cod Steel Head
08-28-2006, 03:10 PM
Great article, but they don't want to hear about that because thats history. Who cares about history?Its not like its important or anything.

Livinginthe past
08-28-2006, 03:15 PM
Part 2 - One of the greatest rags to riches stories ever.

Then came Kraft.

Then came four Super Bowls in 12 years, three Super Bowl victories, and a sense of pride instilled not seen before.

Then came the sellouts, and the good hires, and the evictions of the drunks and punks from the stands. In 1994, Kraft's first year, the season ticket sales surpassed 40,000 for the first time in the history of the franchise. Soon, every game was sold out, something that had not occurred in the team's 34-year history to that point. A Patriots game is now a fun, safe experience. It's a party.

Few franchises have ever been so consistently low and then turned around so amazingly fast.

"It was not a good situation when we took over," Kraft said. "The main thing I wanted to do was associate myself with good people and that meant players that had high character and employees that worked for the greater good."

Kraft is the story of this New England training camp because the Patriots might be reloaded and ready for yet another Super Bowl run this year. The fact this franchise is even still a threat after so much recent success is a testament to Kraft and how the Patriot way, once the way not to do things, is now the model.

No matter how many times I read about these articles im always amazed by the dazzling speed with which this once hopeless franchise was turned around.

Its a credit to Steeler fans who highlight articles such as these - articles where the Patriots are now considered to be the model franchise - how times change eh?

NM

MattsMe
08-28-2006, 06:25 PM
It's funny how things the Steelers have been doing for years are now thought of as "the Patriot way." The only major difference is a 6th round QB who happened to turn into a star. No one, including the people who drafted him, expected that. Sometimes you get lucky with late round picks, and that can make all the difference.

Livinginthe past
08-28-2006, 06:37 PM
Sure, it always takes a pinch of luck to be a successful franchise - having Brady perform like he has is pretty much unheard of from anybody outside the 1st day of the draft.

Some people say he inherited a good system, but the fact is his team were struggling before he took over from Bledsoe.

I hope we dont find out how good the Patriots are without Brady for another 5 or 6 years.

NM

3 to be 4
08-28-2006, 07:39 PM
http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/9620047
:sofunny: (this article has been edited for pertinance and for space constraints but heres the good stuff):bouncy: :


Before owner Robert Kraft purchased the team, the Patriots were a dysfunctional, disgusting mess.

The games never sold out. Not one sellout in the decades before Kraft. The games were rarely on television because of blackouts. No one cared. People heard Patriots and released a gigantic yawn. Twenty-one thousand season ticket holders at one point. That's it. That's all. More people attended Harvard-Yale crew.

The Patriots games, and that old clunker stadium they used to play in, were also not exactly a family friendly place. Some fans had the manners of a Mexican drug lord. There were constant rumbles in the stands, all-out, knock-down brawls between too many drunken goons. A small group of fans used to take thick, D-cell size batteries, wrap them in fat, pregnant snowballs, put the snowballs in the freezer the night before games to get them concrete hard, and then throw them at the players as they came out or entered the tunnel.

At the Patriots players. Not the visiting ones. Many players would be sure to have their helmets on whenever they were entering or exiting the tunnel to avoid the dangerous bombardment of weaponized snowballs.

While standing on the sideline once, I got hit in the back with one of those snowballs thrown by a turd that had better aim than Wade Boggs. "Hey n-----," yelled the drunken culprit, "go back to Africa." A security guard was nearby and saw the whole episode. He did nothing, knowing that if he did, he might get his butt kicked, since the paltry security force at the time was outmanned and maybe even outgunned.

And so it went for those Patriots. They lost, they lost again, and then they lost some more. There was that one bright pre-Kraft moment, when the team went to a Super Bowl, but that game turned into a disastrous blowout at the hands of the dancing and rapping Chicago Bears. The embarrassing loss only cemented the Patriots' pecking order in Boston major sports by the early 1990s. It went Red Sox, Celtics, Bruins and Patriots.

The best ownership in all of sports history is the Rooney family of Pittsburgh Steelers fame, a family that has won championships over generations. George Steinbrenner of the Yankees, Jerry Buss of the Lakers, Eddie DeBartolo of the 49ers, the Mara family of the New York Giants, Bill Veeck of the Cleveland Indians, and several others are high on the list.


so i guess the point of that article is to illustrate what an incredible job Bob Kraft has done since buying the team in 1994. Agreed.

83-Steelers-43
08-28-2006, 11:18 PM
"The games never sold out. Not one sellout in the decades before Kraft. The games were rarely on television because of blackouts. No one cared. People heard Patriots and released a gigantic yawn. Twenty-one thousand season ticket holders at one point. That's it. That's all. More people attended Harvard-Yale crew."

That's all I needed to read. :sofunny:

3 to be 4
08-29-2006, 05:51 AM
it does put to rest this myth that the Patriots only gained a huge following after 2001. Clearly, it was 1994, once stable ownership was established, and the promise that came with Parcells and Bledsoe.

clevestinks
08-29-2006, 08:11 AM
it does put to rest this myth that the Patriots only gained a huge following after 2001. Clearly, it was 1994, once stable ownership was established, and the promise that came with Parcells and Bledsoe.

I hate Parcells! Sorry just had to say it.

Bledsoe I like alot, although I always hated to play against him, more so than even brady

Livinginthe past
08-29-2006, 09:44 AM
I hate Parcells! Sorry just had to say it.

Bledsoe I like alot, although I always hated to play against him, more so than even brady

He's a guy you only like when he is your coach.

Parcells excels at turning poor teams into contenders but in recent times has struggled to take the next step.

If only he could find another D-coach like BB eh?

Im surprised you hate seeing Bledsoe line up against the Steelers more than Brady.

NM

Cape Cod Steel Head
08-29-2006, 06:10 PM
I hate Parcells! Sorry just had to say it.

Bledsoe I like alot, although I always hated to play against him, more so than even bradyI loved when the Steelers played against Bledsoe. He would always get that deer in the headlights look, and you knew he was always good for one or two ints.

Livinginthe past
08-29-2006, 10:15 PM
I loved when the Steelers played against Bledsoe. He would always get that deer in the headlights look, and you knew he was always good for one or two ints.

That was always the case with Bledsoe against good defenses.

He would throw bombs all day on poor defenses.

I still like the guy and wish him (relatively) well but he is pretty overrated due to the fact most football analysts cannot help but cream themselves when a guy is built exactly how a QB should be built and throws the perfect spiral on a deep pass.

Of course, just like Manning, that technique breaks down under intense pressure.

NM