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Atlanta Dan 02-09-2014 07:58 PM

Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
I started this in The Locker Room, but merged that thread with the thread on Michael Sam in the NFL thread to avoid duplicate posts. And now have moved it back to the Locker Room

Michael Sam, an All-American defensive lineman from Missouri Tigers and the Associated Press' SEC Defensive Player of the Year, said that he is gay in interviews with ESPN's "Outside the Lines" and the New York Times on Sunday.

Sam stated publicly what his teammates and coaches at Mizzou have known since August: "I am an openly, proud gay man."...

In 2014, "Gay Man to Enter Workforce" has the everyday-occurrence sound of a headline in The Onion. But when the NFL is involved, it's a first -- and potentially a landmark moment -- in the history of American sports....

Sam's decision to speak out now comes after his experience two weeks ago at the Senior Bowl, where, he said, many already seemed aware of his sexual orientation.

"I didn't realize how many people actually knew, and I was afraid that someone would tell or leak something out about me," he said. "I want to own my truth. ... No one else should tell my story but me."

He had already confided in a few close friends, Sam recalled, and had dated a fellow athlete who was not a football player -- so while coming out to his Mizzou teammates last year was a key moment, it came almost as an afterthought, during preseason training camp.

"Coaches just wanted to know a little about ourselves, our majors, where we're from, and something that no one knows about you," Sam said. "And I used that opportunity just to tell them that I was gay. And their reaction was like, 'Michael Sam finally told us.' "

Asked what that moment felt like, Sam said, "I was kind of scared, even though they already knew. Just to see their reaction was awesome. They supported me from Day One. I couldn't have better teammates. ... I'm telling you what: I wouldn't have the strength to do this today if I didn't know how much support they'd given me this past semester."


http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/...igers-says-gay

Goodell probably wishes he had a device to shut down all twitter accounts for NFL players for the next 24 hours

harrison'samonster 02-09-2014 08:14 PM

Re: NFL Hopeful Comes Out
 
good for him! I wish him luck in the NFL and hope he doesn't land on a team with Incognito.

Bane 02-09-2014 08:48 PM

Re: NFL Hopeful Comes Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison'samonster (Post 1264012)
good for him! I wish him luck in the NFL and hope he doesn't land on a team with Incognito.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/02/0...ationship.html

I'm pretty sure Incognito's been all but vindicated, so far. Sure, he was crass, but there seems to be very little indication that he really had as bad of a hand in this whole situation as Martin's agent seems to have made him seem.

Atlanta Dan 02-09-2014 09:10 PM

Re: NFL Hopeful Comes Out
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by harrison'samonster (Post 1264012)
good for him! I wish him luck in the NFL and hope he doesn't land on a team with Incognito.

Sounds as if he is going to have more trouble with older front office types with regard to getting drafted

This from the lead college football writer for SI

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>The problem is, the 50+ year old men making draft decisions will likely underestimate the acceptance of Sam by today's 20something players.</p>&mdash; Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) <a href="https://twitter.com/slmandel/statuses/432691970058625024">February 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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And this from a SI article on Michael Sam's draft prospects

"I don't think football is ready for [an openly gay player] just yet," said an NFL player personnel assistant. "In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's-man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...m-draft-stock/

So the NFL will be ready for an openly gay player around 2035 but not "just yet" since it will create a "chemical imbalance" on the team- WTF?

Glad to see the Steelers are listed among the few franchises regarded as having the strength to make it work for Mr. Sam:thumbsup:

The former general manager said that it would take an NFL franchise with a strong owner, savvy general manager and veteran coach to make it work. He rattled off franchises like Pittsburgh, Green Bay, San Francisco, Baltimore and Indianapolis as destinations where that could happen.


http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/col...m-draft-stock/

fer522 02-09-2014 10:31 PM

Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
Posted by Mike Florio on February 9, 2014, 8:49 PM EST


In 10 days, the NFL will descend on Indianapolis for the Scouting Combine, a year after multiple incoming players reportedly were asked about their sexuality.

For one of the players attending this years Combine, the answer has been provided without the question being asked.

Missouri defensive end Michael Sam has come out as gay, capping a football season that began with Sam sharing his sexual orientation with his teammates.

I just want to make sure I could tell my story the way I want to tell it, Sam told the New York Times. I just want to own my truth.

The SEC co-defensive player of the year struggled at the Senior Bowl with a move from defensive end to linebacker. Hes still regarded as a third-round prospect.

Im not naive, Sam said. I know this is a huge deal and I know how important this is. But my role as of right now is to train for the Combine and play in the NFL.

It will be difficult for Sam to focus on that role, at least in the short term. Instantly, his name will take on a Manzeillian magnitude at the Scouting Combine, with Sams press conference destined to be as busy as Manti Teos session in 2013.

The media then will shift its focus to whether Sams declaration will help him or hurt him. Ideally, it will have no impact. But were not naive, either. Some coaches, General Managers, and/or owners will be inclined to shy away from being the first locker room to welcome openly gay player, even if none would ever admit it.

For that reason, Sam took a courageous path. (Outsports.com tells the story of how Sam made the decision to come out now.) He could have kept it hidden until after he was drafted. Instead, he opted (as he has said) to own his truth. And now whoever drafts him will be selecting and accepting Sam for who he is.

At a time when NFL teams seem to be obsessed with avoiding distractions, heres hoping that someone will see this as an opportunity to help get sports to the point where having an openly gay player isnt regarded as a distraction. Ideally, heres hoping that Sam ultimately is picked because he can help a team win games.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...es-out-as-gay/

SteelerEmpire 02-09-2014 11:31 PM

Re: NFL Hopeful Comes Out
 
What do they say ? 10% of the population is gay ? Over 30 Million Americans ? That's a LOT of gay

SoCalFan 02-10-2014 12:48 AM

Re: Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
Good for him. My only gripe is him or any other gay person for that matter being in the locker rooms and restrooms with others of the same sex. That's like me being in a locker room full of athletic naked ladies! :tt03:

I have no problem with gay people, just not sure what it would do to a testosterone filled locker room?

Buddha Bus 02-10-2014 03:14 AM

Re: Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
Pretty courageous of the guy to admit that at all much less before he's drafted. Unfortunately, it will probably hurt his draft stock as there is still a lot of homophobia in society. Not saying it's right (because it isn't), just saying it's the reality.

I think it speaks to his character greatly getting it out in the open ahead of time and risking his own draft status. He could have hid it and been drafted first, but decided he would give teams the power to choose. At least he knows whatever team drafts him will welcome him with open arms and know up front instead of springing it on them later.

Kudos to him from taking that bold chance.

Buddha Bus 02-10-2014 03:18 AM

Re: Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
Well, looks like the ignorance has already begun to flow. :facepalm:



NFL Assistant Has A Horribly Anti-Gay Explanation For Why The League Isn't Ready For Michael Sam
By Tony Manfred
7 hours ago
AP

Minutes after NFL Draft prospect Michael Sam announced he's gay, Sports Illustrated ran an article in which several anonymous people working in the NFL threw cold water on the news.

It's a sobering reminder that the environment Sam is about to enter isn't entirely supportive of gay players.

The most horrible quote came from an unnamed NFL player personnel assistant, who said:

"I don't think football is ready for it just yet. In the coming decade or two, it's going to be acceptable, but at this point in time it's still a man's man game. To call somebody a [gay slur] is still so commonplace. It'd chemically imbalance an NFL locker room and meeting room."

It's important to note that this isn't an assistant saying that this is the thought within the league. This is a person speaking for himself.


(Read More:) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/nfl-as...021059968.html

GMU Steeler 02-10-2014 07:23 AM

Re: Draft prospect Michael Sam comes out as gay
 
He seems like a good kid. Has his degree. Anyhow, I liked the line Charles Barkley I believe had about a gay teammate- all that matters to me is he can shoot straight or the Mike Mussina line of assuming he's already had a gay teammate. People will say "why does this matter", well suppose you're a young gay athlete, you've got a role model in Mike Sam since he's proving that a gay guy can make it in the NFL. It's kind of like how Jackie Robinson was important for future African American and minority athletes. I wish Sam well in the NFL unless he's drafted by a team I hate :chuckle: but seriously I am glad to see that society seems to be evolving on this issue. His teammates accepted him at Mizzou, no reason why fans should not.
Related;
http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...rt-michael-sam
Good on Jerome and Ryan.


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