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VolatileMan 10-09-2006 12:55 PM

Something to think about
 
Tommy Madix was fantastic for us untill he took that hit that left him unconsious, for a few seconds, on the field.

He was never the same, even though he looked fine and said all the right things.

Now Ben has done a face plant into a car windshield with no helmet.

He physically looks ok, says all the right things . . . BUT?

Will he ever be the same??

Just something to think about :(

VolatileMan

augustashark 10-09-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Something to think about
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by VolatileMan (Post 159814)
Tommy Madix was fantastic for us untill he took that hit that left him unconsious, for a few seconds, on the field.

He was never the same, even though he looked fine and said all the right things.

Now Ben has done a face plant into a car windshield with no helmet.

He physically looks ok, says all the right things . . . BUT?

Will he ever be the same??

Just something to think about :(

VolatileMan

Good point, and I agree to a degree. Tearing your acl is one thing, but to go through a life and death situation like Ben did, it has to make you put things in perspective. I heard the interview he did with NBC and he sounded to me like a man that knows that their is more important things in life other then winning football games. Now I believe that most of the guys (mostly vets) in the NFL has this same perspective, but they were not in a life and death situation like Ben was in. This guy is still very young and has many years ahead of him, but if you go out on the field with the attitude that win or lose I still have my health (which is ok) he will continue to lose games. Once a football player steps onto the field he needs to thing of only one thing, what must I sacrifice to win this game today. Ben has a married and two kids mentality, but what he needs is I'm going out there today and leave blood on the field today for a win mentality.

stlrtruck 10-09-2006 03:01 PM

Re: Something to think about
 
I agree, Ben needs to recognize that his style of play has become Maddox-esque. And that he now needs to lead a team that has not identity other than losing games. And that becomes as habit forming as winning games.
However, Ben does look better and better each week. The question is, do we want to wait that long? But it's not all Ben's fault. The O-line in two of the last three games have been like swiss cheese and Ben hasn't had the protection that he's use to having. And Ben is also trying to get the quick strike instead of taking what the Defense gives him.

Maybe he came back to quick from the head trauma, only to endure the appendicitis, and then to be beaten around like a rag doll lately - Lord knows that someone on this team needs to step up and take hold of the leadership!!

BIGBENFASTWILLIE 10-09-2006 04:34 PM

Re: Something to think about
 
Ben needs to sit down an refocus more than anyone on the team. But once he does and hes back to his old self........He has to start putting his foot up some of the other players ass when the miss a ball, miss a block.......and what not..........He doesnt look like he wants to be the leader anymore........Looks like hes second guessing everything he does.

19ward86 10-09-2006 05:05 PM

Re: Something to think about
 
......Tommy was never amazing for us. he had like a 75 passer rating at best with us. that was when he threw for 3600 yds and 18 tds, too bad he had 18 ints to go along with them.

ytsan2q 10-09-2006 09:52 PM

Re: Something to think about
 
Ben has never been that exceptional QB. He's always been a game manager. The pass couple of years it's been about our defense, running game and a few gadget plays here and there. It seems as though the are trying to get Ben to throw more this year and he is having problems adjusting. It the past all his throws were set up by the run. If we're going to be successful with Ben this year he's going to have to go back to his old role. The Defense is getting worn out because of offensive mistakes (3 and outs) and the fact they can't move the ball consistently.


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