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alittlejazzbird 10-09-2006 04:45 PM

MSNBC: Big Ben's breakdowns costing Steelers
Big Ben's breakdowns costing Steelers
Once a nearly mistake-free QB, Roethlisberger needs to tighten his game
By Bill Williamson
MSNBC contributor

Ben Roethlisberger has never been a great NFL quarterback.

He has been a winning quarterback, but Big Ben has never been dominant since bursting on the scene as a rookie in 2004. So we can?t be overwhelmed by his personal struggles. The guy has flaws.

But what has to be so disconcerting to the Pittsburgh Steelers is they are 1-3. That is very unlike Roethlisberger like. Despite his limitations, Big Ben won.

That was his thing.

His thing, though, is broken.

Roethlisberger?s flaws are costing his team. That?s scary for the Steelers.

The whole deal about Roethlisberger was that he never hurt his team. He always made smart decisions. He managed the game well for coach Bill Cowher and let the running game and the Steelers? nasty defense take over.

Now, though, Roethlisberger isn?t allowing the Steelers? trademarks to win games. He isn?t giving the rest of the team chance.

Why? Is it the motorcycle accident? It is the emergency surgery on the eve of the season?

Probably not. Sure, those circumstances aren?t in the playbook on how to be an effective NFL quarterback. But Roethlisberger?s current issues have more to do with him than his off-field medical issues.

Remember, this is a guy who wasn?t any good in the Super Bowl. The Steelers won despite his performance. In the past four games, the Super Bowl included, Roethlisberger has thrown zero touchdown passes and has been intercepted nine times.

After the Super Bowl, there was concern that Roethlisberger?s career could stall because he may think that he didn?t have to improve. After two seasons in the NFL, the thought was that Roethlisberger may think that the NFL thing was easy.

A month into the 2006 season, perhaps those thoughts were right on the money.

Roethlisberger can?t look at his Super Bowl ring. He has to look at the game film. The ring may say he doesn?t need to improve. But the film shows that he is not very good right now.

Big Ben?s career is not officially in the dumper. But the guy needs to improve. He needs to realize that. If not, the Steelers will continue to lose because of him.

Mosca 10-09-2006 06:41 PM

Re: MSNBC: Big Ben's breakdowns costing Steelers
Fair enough.


stillers4me 10-09-2006 07:21 PM

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There's plenty of places to point the fingers than just at Ben. Most of this team have their own SB rings tucked in their underwear drawers and most of them aren't playing up to par either. These asses just want something to prove that they were right. The Steelers shouldn't have been in the SuperBowl. Well, guess what. They were wrong. And they're still asses.

stlrtruck 10-10-2006 08:28 AM

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The Media is always looking for a whipping boy and right now it's Big Ben and the Steelers!

WV-SteelerFan 10-11-2006 03:13 PM

Big Ben's breakdowns costing Steelers...hmm
I read this on FOX Sports...

"...Quarterback Ben Roethlisberger grabbed his right elbow several times in pregame warm-ups and left the locker room Sunday night in San Diego with his arm in a sling, but it's not expected to be a problem.
Coach Bill Cowher did not even list his quarterback among the injured after the game and Roethlisberger said it was no big deal. Roethlisberger explained away questions about his elbow. He said he was hit on it once during the game and said he was merely massaging it before the game.
It looked like he had no problems with his arm or his decisions in the first half of the Steelers' 23-13 loss in San Diego, their third straight. Roethlisberger completed 13 of 20 passes for 169 yards in the first half with two drops and a spike thrown in. He also lost the ball while trying to pass, throwing it straight into the dirt.
The second half was a different story. Even though he was 7 of 11, two of his passes went to the Chargers. His second one was pitiful. As he was getting hit, he merely threw the ball up for grabs and it was easily intercepted. That's not a play coach Bill Cowher is used to seeing from his young quarterback.
"It's one thing to try to throw the ball, but not to hang it up there that long," Cowher said.
Roethlisberger has lost three straight games for the first time in a career that began with a 13-0 record as a rookie and a Super Bowl victory his second season. He's 0-3 in this one after Charlie Batch won the opener four days after Roethlisberger had an appendectomy.
Did they bring him back too soon, starting his first game 15 days after the surgery? His performance so far suggests something's wrong and that's as good a guess as any. .."

The announcers DID mention this, but, I didn't know about the sling. It doesn't sound as if Big Ben or Bill Cowher is worried about it, should we be?

BigBensBikeHelmet 10-11-2006 03:45 PM

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Ben Roethlisberger has never been a great NFL quarterback.
Thank You!!!!! That first sentance says it all. Finally you guys are starting to get it. Cohwer needs to run the damn ball!

Atlanta Dan 10-11-2006 03:48 PM

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This was Cowher's explanation from today's Post-Gazette:

"He gets something sometimes like tennis elbow, so he's trying to loosen it up like a kicker is loosening up his leg. He's fine. Sometimes there's so much sensationalism that takes place with this that it gets annoying at times."

Cowher said Roethlisberger's elbow was hit during the game, which is why he was icing it down afterward.

"Before the game he was fine," Cowher said. "It's another one of the sensationalized stories that sometimes these sideline reporters want to create."

I think the spotlight is beginning to turn Cowher a bit red in the face.

If this season does not turn around soon and the media keeps up with these sorts of questions, those of us who miss the old, sometimes out of control Cowher may get our wish for a return to the good old days. :sofunny:

Atlanta Dan 10-11-2006 03:50 PM

Re: MSNBC: Big Ben's breakdowns costing Steelers

Originally Posted by BigBensBikeHelmet (Post 160264)
Thank You!!!!! That first sentance says it all. Finally you guys are starting to get it. Cohwer needs to run the damn ball!

Dear Troll

That quote is from a MSNBC reporter, not one of us. Do a word search on his articles and you probably will find he slams everyone, even your faves

And would that be the Seahawks or Bengals? Now that I notice your candidate for President I am beginning to remember why I put a particularly loathsome poster (who may be you under anothr name?) on my ignore list several months ago.

Do you troll all the boards or just those of the teams that beat you in the Super Bowl?

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