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lamberts-lost-tooth 03-04-2007 06:26 PM

Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Pro Football Weekly

In the minds of many evaluators, including PFW resident draft analyst Nolan Nawrocki, there is a considerable gap between QBs JaMarcus Russell and Brady Quinn.

The way we hear it, it is Quinn, not Russell, who Nawrocki and a growing contingent of teams think will be the better pro. And perhaps to the surprise of many draft fans, more of the teams we consulted had finished their pre-Combine draft meetings thinking Quinn would be the better pro.

Multiple teams that have begun digging into Russell's background have been turned off by his lazy work habits and immaturity. When he took off his shirt at the Combine weigh-ins and exposed a very soft, fleshy body filled with baby fat, the concerns immediately heightened for one top-10 team that PFW spoke with, revealing what some consider to be the tip of the iceberg.

Much like Vince Young a year ago, whose poor Wonderlic test result was leaked and wound up setting in motion a lot of questions about how far he would fall, the significance of Russell's unshapely physique may be way overblown.

Our sources say Oakland?s Al Davis, who holds the top pick, is still chafed he decided not to take Matt Leinart a year ago and is dead-set on finding a signalcaller of the future to replace the recently released Aaron Brooks, whose option was not exercised after one year with the team.

Davis is widely assumed to favor the more strong-armed Russell, who better fits the vertical offense the Raiders have long run. However, had Davis made the call a year ago, our sources say he would have selected the more cerebral, NFL-ready Leinart, not the more strong-armed Jay Cutler, whom the Broncos traded up to select one pick later.

Said one astute, high-ranking evaluator, whose team has no need for a quarterback, of the draft's top two quarterbacks: ?Physically, arm-strength-wise, there is no question who has the advantage. But if you want to talk about mental aptitude, ability to escape pressure and make good decisions, it's not even close. There is a big ?miss? factor on Russell. He had a lot of up-and-down games, and he makes a lot of bad decisions. He's sitting in the middle of the second round right now on our board. He'll never make it that far, but that?s where his value is. After Quinn, I would be sweating if I needed a quarterback from the rest of this crop.?

If Davis fails to land a veteran passer such as Houston?s David Carr, who has been thrown on the trading block after his struggles last year, or Byron Leftwich, who may be dealt despite Jack Del Rio?s statement that he is the Jaguars? starter for 2007, don't be surprised if Quinn, not Russell, winds up becoming the first overall pick. Davis could be among those who are scared off by the red flags surrounding Russell and thus opt for Quinn. That could leave Russell, despite the concerns, falling only, like Young, to the No. 3 spot, where fellow Mobile, Ala., native and Browns GM Phil Savage would be waiting with open arms, the way we hear it.

Sources close to the Browns have even speculated that Savage, who helped advise Russell on his decision to enter the draft, has already informed Russell that he would not fall any further than the spot where the Browns were picking, and that he would be a lock top-four pick.

Suitanim 03-04-2007 06:50 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Russell played poorly in almost every big game he played in. The kid has Akili Smith/Kordell Stewart written all over him...

Godfather 03-04-2007 08:37 PM

Re: Russell’s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ’07
 
Russell played poorly in almost every big game he played in. The kid has Akili Smith/Kordell Stewart written all over him...

Huh??? I've been watching him for three years, and he's had several signature wins.

As a redshirt freshman in 2004, he came into the Cap One Bowl in relief and brought LSU back from a two-touchdown deficit (LSU lost on a defensive breakdown on the final play.)

In 2005, he led the Tigers to a 10-2 record (including the SECCG in which he was injured). That included wins over Auburn and then-#3 and undefeated Alabama, both in overtime.

This past season, he played four road games against top ten teams and went 2-2. Statistically, his worst game was Florida (three INTs) but two of those were tipped by his own receivers and the third went through an LSU receiver's alligator arms. He beat Tennessee in a pressure situation--TD pass with nine seconds left. He lit up Arkansas with a BCS at large bid on the line. He made mincemeat of Notre Dame in the Sugar Bowl.

His only mental shortcoming is a tendency to make bad decisions as a runner.

Suitanim 03-04-2007 09:07 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Draft him, then...

Just don't waste one of the Steelers picks...

Haiku_Dirtt 03-13-2007 04:48 AM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suitanim (Post 224688)
Draft him, then...

Just don't waste one of the Steelers picks...

Concur. BUT. The QB position is understaffed. He's not Carson Palmer but a tool is someones shed.

I used to think he was a joke. I'm not so sure anymore.

fansince'76 03-13-2007 09:18 AM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Haiku_Dirtt (Post 227584)
Concur. BUT. The QB position is understaffed. He's not Carson Palmer but a tool is someones shed.

I don't know - we have one of the best young QBs in the league (last season notwithstanding) and an extremely capable backup (which is more than alot of teams have). On top of that, we inked St. Pierre to a one year deal as an insurance policy. I don't think Russell is a player we need to be targeting in the draft.

Jeremy 03-13-2007 12:11 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Tell you what, go find me the last Notre Dame quaterback who made a decent pro.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

Suitanim 03-13-2007 06:00 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Joe Montana. Yeah, it's been awhile, but he's arguable the greatest ever, and certainly undisputedly all-time top-5. But Brady Quinn is definitely no Joe Montana.

SteelCzar76 03-13-2007 06:16 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
To be honest i'm not really that impressed with either of them. (Russell or Quinn) But after 'brain farting' with the Robert Gallery pick,...they won't take Joe Thomas and will go with a supposed 'Franchise' Qb with the 1st pick.
And seeing as how Davis loves the vertical passing game. I think he takes Russell based upon his considerable arm strength and physical measurables.

Jeremy 03-13-2007 06:35 PM

Re: Russell?s red flags could make Quinn the first QB drafted in ?07
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Suitanim (Post 227739)
Joe Montana. Yeah, it's been awhile, but he's arguable the greatest ever, and certainly undisputedly all-time top-5. But Brady Quinn is definitely no Joe Montana.

You think?


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