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Stlrs4Life 06-21-2007 08:35 PM

Tired of losing, Pirates fans plot protest
 
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By Karen Price
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Thursday, June 21, 2007

Some angry Pirates fans are hoping a protest June 30 at PNC Park doesn't fall on deaf ears.
Andy Chomos and Sean Lucas are two of the organizers behind Fans for Change, a grass-roots campaign aimed at recent decisions by team management.
The protest will consist of a pregame rally and petition-signing on Federal Street from 5-7 p.m. During the game against the Washington Nationals, protesters will leave their seats after the third inning and will have the option of staying in the concourse until the fifth inning or leaving the ballpark.
Chomos, a 43-year-old business owner from Wexford, wants fans to wear green shirts, to symbolize money leaving the building.
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"We want to demonstrate that we're not satisfied with the product on the field, with the general manager's moves and ownership's not committing to producing a winner," he said.
The movement started about 10 days ago when Lucas, a Master of Business Administration student at Duquesne, sent a letter to local media outlets. The letter was reported by a TV station and later made its way to the Internet. Through blogs and message boards, the idea for the protest gained shape.
"The goal is to give upset fans, fed-up fans, an outlet to voice their opinion publicly for the first time in 14 years of losing baseball," said Lucas, 25, of the North Hills.
A Pirates spokesman said the team has no comment on the protest.
Chomos said he's gotten 7,000 e-mail responses about the protest. Lucas said his group passed out flyers during the Pirates' most recent home series and talked to 1,500 fans.
"Ninety-nine percent loved the idea," Lucas said. "Whether they'll come, that's their decision. But people loved the idea."
Chomos has heard the skeptics who believe the protest will accomplish nothing. The sentiment there, he said, is that unhappy fans can best make their feelings known by not showing up at all.
"But the problem is we want to go," Chomos said. "We paid for (PNC Park), we want to go. We recognize that the beautiful ballpark, a ballpark paid for by the taxpayers, is a jewel and, frankly, there are enough casual baseball fans that people are going to continue to go. And people should not be denied the right to go to the game."

Karen Price can be reached at kprice@tribweb.com or 412-320-7980.
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SteelCityMan786 06-21-2007 08:40 PM

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I wonder how this work will pay off. It worked in Baltimore(In terms of the team spending money). Maybe it can work here.

The Duke 06-21-2007 09:17 PM

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Hope it works, I'm not much of a baseball fan but I follow what's happening with the pirates and it doesn't look to promising, besides it's Pittsburgh, this has got to be a winning team

SteelCityMan786 06-21-2007 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by The Duke (Post 258443)
Hope it works, I'm not much of a baseball fan but I follow what's happening with the pirates and it doesn't look to promising, besides it's Pittsburgh, this has got to be a winning team

We may still support our teams in losing years, but we want winning years. We are the city of champions. Not city of Losers. That's Philadelphia.

rbryan 06-25-2007 06:09 PM

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I'll take this one step further. I'm boycotting baseball altogether. MLB is the last major sport without a salary cap. Until that changes I won't watch another game. I'm over it.

SteelCityMan786 06-25-2007 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rbryan (Post 259855)
I'll take this one step further. I'm boycotting baseball altogether. MLB is the last major sport without a salary cap. Until that changes I won't watch another game. I'm over it.

Something I can do if I ever become the Commissioner of Baseball, I'll be pushing for that thing called SALARY CAP!

rbryan 06-25-2007 06:14 PM

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I wonder how many Steeler fans would be left with a run like the Pirates have had.

The Steelers would be in the same boat without a salary cap.

SteelCityMan786 06-25-2007 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rbryan (Post 259858)
I wonder how many Steeler fans would be left with a run like the Pirates have had.

The Steelers would be in the same boat without a salary cap.

One more reason Football will always do better then Baseball. Football has a SALARY CAP, Baseball doesn't.

Edman 06-25-2007 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rbryan (Post 259855)
I'll take this one step further. I'm boycotting baseball altogether. MLB is the last major sport without a salary cap. Until that changes I won't watch another game. I'm over it.

Same here.

MLB should've been the league that went on a one-year lockout instead of the NHL.

The Pirates' continuous sucking, their half-assed ownership, the empty promises, the steroids scandal, hearing about Barry and A-Rod all the time, and the having Yankees/Red Sox shoved down my throat every year just makes me sick of baseball. At least in the NFL you have surprise teams, stories, and parity every other year.

X-Terminator 06-25-2007 08:21 PM

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It won't work.


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