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stlrtruck 02-22-2008 11:07 AM

Arizona gets OK for Virtual Fence
 
Now if we can only get a satellite in space that will target the border and any time someone crosses illegal they somehow "vanish"

http://www.rr.com/flash/index.cfm?re...5&division=279

By EILEEN SULLIVAN - Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON(AP) A 28-mile "virtual fence" that will use radars and surveillance cameras to try to catch people entering the country illegally has gotten final government approval.

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff on Friday was to announce approval of the fence, built by the Boeing Co. and using technology the Bush administration plans to extend to other areas of the Arizona border, as well as sections of Texas. These projects could get under way as early as this summer, officials said.

The virtual fence is part of a national plan to secure the southwest border with physical barriers and high-tech detection capabilities intended to stop illegal immigrants on foot and drug smugglers in vehicles. As of Feb. 8, 295 miles of fencing had been constructed.

The virtual fence already is working.

On Feb. 13, an officer in a Tucson command center _ 70 miles from the border _ noticed a group of about 100 people gathered at the border. The officer notified agents on the ground and in the air. Border Patrol caught 38 of the 100 people who tried to cross illegally, and the others went back into Mexico, a Homeland Security official said.

The virtual fence system includes 98-foot unmanned surveillance towers that are equipped with an array of sophisticated technology including radar, sensor devices and cameras capable of distinguishing people from cattle at a distance of about 10 miles. The cameras are powerful enough to tell group sizes and whether people are carrying backpacks that may contain weapons or drugs.

Last year the government withheld some of Boeing's payments for the system because technology the company used in the test project did not work properly. Boeing also was late in delivering the final product, known as Project 28. Because of this, the department received a $2 million credit from the company to go toward maintenance and logistical support of the system, the Homeland Security officials said.

The government paid Boeing $15 million of its initial $20 million contract before determining that there were glitches in the test project. The department gave a conditional acceptance in December.

Lawmakers have been skeptical of the product Boeing delivered.

"This is not the end of the Project 28 story," Rep. Christopher Carney, D-Pa., said in a statement Thursday. "We need to understand what went wrong with Project 28 to ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated and taxpayer dollars are not squandered."

Carney chairs the House Homeland Security management subcommittee.

Jeremy 02-22-2008 11:14 AM

Re: Arizona gets OK for Virtual Fence
 
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The government paid Boeing $15 million of its initial $20 million contract before determining that there were glitches in the test project. The department gave a conditional acceptance in December.

Lawmakers have been skeptical of the product Boeing delivered.

"This is not the end of the Project 28 story," Rep. Christopher Carney, D-Pa., said in a statement Thursday. "We need to understand what went wrong with Project 28 to ensure that the mistakes of the past are not repeated and taxpayer dollars are not squandered."
More tax money wasted by the Republicans when they already had assets in place to secure the border. Pathetic.

Borski 02-22-2008 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 369003)
More tax money wasted by the Republicans when they already had assets in place to secure the border. Pathetic.

Republicans? Christopher Carney is Democrat

SteelCityMan786 02-22-2008 02:12 PM

Re: Arizona gets OK for Virtual Fence
 
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Originally Posted by Borski (Post 369013)
Republicans? Christopher Carney is Democrat

People need to stop blasting the Republicans to. The Democrats have contributed equal to if not more in the last 2 years then the Republicans in the last 6 out 14 they held the majority in Congress. Hell none of their major campaign issues have actually been passed. They're both equally at fault. Everyone needs to pull their heads out of their asses and work together in Washington. Right now, I just hope the Republicans take back either 1 or both houses of congress this year. Maybe we can find away where NEITHER has the majority of both houses of congress and we can actually make it work.

stlrtruck 02-22-2008 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelCityMan786 (Post 369045)
They're both equally at fault. Everyone needs to pull their heads out of their asses and work together in Washington.

I wonder if they would actually read that message if they were to get it!

Jeremy 02-22-2008 03:34 PM

Re: Arizona gets OK for Virtual Fence
 
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Originally Posted by Borski (Post 369013)
Republicans? Christopher Carney is Democrat

The border is a big Republican issue. Arizona doesn't want this stupid virtual fence because it's a waste of time and money.

Borski 02-22-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Arizona gets OK for Virtual Fence
 
We should just buy Mexico like we did Alaska, then we don't need to worry about a border fence lol.

TroysBadDawg 02-22-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 369054)
The border is a big Republican issue. Arizona doesn't want this stupid virtual fence because it's a waste of time and money.

So says Jeremy "the all knowing" and chief conservative basher.

We all understand Jeremy ... really we do.

But we still like you, well some do anyway. BTW, I thought you left you, said you were leaving... My bad...Sorry.

You see, I still haven't forgot you.

Jeremy 02-22-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Borski (Post 369062)
We should just buy Mexico like we did Alaska, then we don't need to worry about a border fence lol.

Hell no.....Mexico is a pit. I don't want anything to do with that filthy little country.

TroysBadDawg 02-22-2008 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy (Post 369070)
Hell no.....Mexico is a pit. I don't want anything to do with that filthy little country.

Well at least your open minded. IF you have ever been there it is worse now than before.

The Plants the US companies have built have no regards for Emission controls, It is now a hell hole. Thank all on both sides of the isle for that. Big money talked into their re-election war chests and they listened. SO blame both sides not just one.


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