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mesaSteeler 11-18-2008 09:33 PM

Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
MATTHEW BURGLUND: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
Matthew Burglund
Published: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:58 PM EST
http://www.indianagazette.com/articl...s/10006098.txt

PITTSBURGH - By virtue of his rookie-season playoff appearance and 7-3 start this season, Mike Tomlin has been widely regarded as a good hire for the Steelers.

But the entire time Tomlin has been in charge, we've all been waiting for a chink in his armor to develop.

On Sunday it did.

For the most part, Tomlin's assistant coaches stink.

OK, maybe not ``most'' of them. Just two of them.

Larry Zierlein, your offensive line is horrible. And that only seems amplified by the shoddy play-calling from offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.That the Steelers had a 300-yard passer, a 100-yard rusher and a 100-yard receiver without scoring a touchdown in Sunday's 11-10 win over the San Diego Chargers shows just how dysfunctional things are.

Now, I've never been a football coach so my basis of knowledge admittedly isn't that great. But I do know that the Steelers' offensive line can't block anyone.

And I mean anyone.

I don't think the Steelers' front five could block Gary Coleman if he was blitzing.

Zierlein, who most people only remember because he's the guy who accidentally sent pornographic e-mails to a bunch of people in the Steelers' front office a few years ago, is a coach who should have lied on his ręsumę. Prior to being hired by Tomlin, Zierlein's ``top'' job came when he was the Browns' offensive line coach from 2001 to 2004.

Can we go ahead and make a rule that anybody who ever coached for the Cleveland Browns should never be hired again?

Other than working for the Browns, Zierlein is a journeyman coach, with 13 jobs at the high school, college and pro level since 1970. Heck, he even tried his hand as an arena football coach in the 1980s. But sometime during his tenure at the University of Cincinnati, while he was on the same staff as Tomlin, he made an impression on the future Steelers head coach.

All these years later, I'm wondering what Tomlin was thinking.

Because of that porous offensive line, Ben Roethlisberger has been sacked 85 times in the 27 games since Zierlein was hired. You could argue that Zierlein doesn't have much talent to work with, and you'd be right. But the limited talent he's been given seems to only get worse over time.

That's certainly been detrimental to Roethlisberger, who seems to give an incredulous look toward the sideline when a pass play is called.

``You realize that's Willie Colon at right tackle?'' Roethlisberger seems to say with his body language. ``You're going to let him block for me?''Besides calling for way, way too many chances (41 pass plays) for Big Ben to have his head ripped off, Arians made some bizarre decisions Sunday. Late in the first quarter, he tried to throw the ball on a goal-line situation, when anyone who's ever seen a football game knows it's best to pound it in. When Arians finally did try to run up the gut, he did so on fourth down, and Mewelde Moore got stuffed, and the Steelers got nothing out of the drive.

Since being promoted from wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator last season, Arians has shown little in his own defense. The gadget plays his predecessor, Ken Whisenhunt, used are a thing of the past. When logic requires a pass, he calls for a run; when a run seems reasonable, Arians goes to the air.

If it weren't for geniuses like Dick LeBeau and John Mitchell, Tomlin would look like a fool. Two of the choices he made for assistant coaches have done more to hinder the Steelers than to help them.

But what do I know? I'm just a guy with a laptop.

Oh, did I mention Arians' last job was with the Browns?


Copyright ę 2008 - Indiana Gazette

T&B fan 11-18-2008 10:10 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mesaSteeler (Post 477990)
MATTHEW BURGLUND: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
Matthew Burglund
Published: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 3:58 PM EST
http://www.indianagazette.com/articl...s/10006098.txt

PITTSBURGH - By virtue of his rookie-season playoff appearance and 7-3 start this season, Mike Tomlin has been widely regarded as a good hire for the Steelers.

But the entire time Tomlin has been in charge, we've all been waiting for a chink in his armor to develop.

On Sunday it did.

For the most part, Tomlin's assistant coaches stink.

OK, maybe not ``most'' of them. Just two of them.

Larry Zierlein, your offensive line is horrible. And that only seems amplified by the shoddy play-calling from offensive coordinator Bruce Arians.That the Steelers had a 300-yard passer, a 100-yard rusher and a 100-yard receiver without scoring a touchdown in Sunday's 11-10 win over the San Diego Chargers shows just how dysfunctional things are.

Now, I've never been a football coach so my basis of knowledge admittedly isn't that great. But I do know that the Steelers' offensive line can't block anyone.

And I mean anyone.

I don't think the Steelers' front five could block Gary Coleman if he was blitzing.

Zierlein, who most people only remember because he's the guy who accidentally sent pornographic e-mails to a bunch of people in the Steelers' front office a few years ago, is a coach who should have lied on his ręsumę. Prior to being hired by Tomlin, Zierlein's ``top'' job came when he was the Browns' offensive line coach from 2001 to 2004.

Can we go ahead and make a rule that anybody who ever coached for the Cleveland Browns should never be hired again?

Other than working for the Browns, Zierlein is a journeyman coach, with 13 jobs at the high school, college and pro level since 1970. Heck, he even tried his hand as an arena football coach in the 1980s. But sometime during his tenure at the University of Cincinnati, while he was on the same staff as Tomlin, he made an impression on the future Steelers head coach.

All these years later, I'm wondering what Tomlin was thinking.

Because of that porous offensive line, Ben Roethlisberger has been sacked 85 times in the 27 games since Zierlein was hired. You could argue that Zierlein doesn't have much talent to work with, and you'd be right. But the limited talent he's been given seems to only get worse over time.

That's certainly been detrimental to Roethlisberger, who seems to give an incredulous look toward the sideline when a pass play is called.

``You realize that's Willie Colon at right tackle?'' Roethlisberger seems to say with his body language. ``You're going to let him block for me?''Besides calling for way, way too many chances (41 pass plays) for Big Ben to have his head ripped off, Arians made some bizarre decisions Sunday. Late in the first quarter, he tried to throw the ball on a goal-line situation, when anyone who's ever seen a football game knows it's best to pound it in. When Arians finally did try to run up the gut, he did so on fourth down, and Mewelde Moore got stuffed, and the Steelers got nothing out of the drive.

Since being promoted from wide receivers coach to offensive coordinator last season, Arians has shown little in his own defense. The gadget plays his predecessor, Ken Whisenhunt, used are a thing of the past. When logic requires a pass, he calls for a run; when a run seems reasonable, Arians goes to the air.
If it weren't for geniuses like Dick LeBeau and John Mitchell, Tomlin would look like a fool. Two of the choices he made for assistant coaches have done more to hinder the Steelers than to help them.

But what do I know? I'm just a guy with a laptop.

Oh, did I mention Arians' last job was with the Browns?

Copyright ę 2008 - Indiana Gazette

sounds about right :thumbsup:

RunWillieRun 11-18-2008 10:13 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
Wasn't Cowher a Brown's coach before being hired as Steelers head coach?

T&B fan 11-18-2008 10:15 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
yes

fansince'76 11-18-2008 10:20 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
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Because of that porous offensive line, Ben Roethlisberger has been sacked 85 times in the 27 games since Zierlein was hired. You could argue that Zierlein doesn't have much talent to work with, and you'd be right. But the limited talent he's been given seems to only get worse over time.
You mean the same line that gave up more sacks under Russ Grimm in 2006 than it did in 2007 under Zierlein? Admittedly, I don't think Zierlein is any great shakes, but it's hard to make chicken salad out of chicken shit.

tony hipchest 11-18-2008 10:34 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
zeirlien leaves alot to be desired. i woulda had no problem at all if he was dumped and hudson houck hired in his place.

i doubt i could argue with arians being dumped for cam cameron.

but we are in the here and now. who steps in? how much transition time does it take for ben and the team to learn an entirely new offense? (id rather see what we can do with a healthy qb and adequate rb corps while retaining arians).

im not gonna defend larry z, but look at all the people who called for the head of our current ST coaches (who have shown a marked improvement from cowhers final year).

bobby april was a scapegoat with the steelers and now is regarded as one of the best ST coaches with the bills.

but to say the steelers assistants stink i can only think of 2 words.

dick lebeau

NJarhead 11-18-2008 10:37 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by T&B fan (Post 478015)
yes

http://forums.steelersfever.com/imag...ine=1223732646

That's what I'm sayin'.

Wait, what are talking about?

El-Gonzo Jackson 11-18-2008 11:23 PM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
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Originally Posted by fansince'76 (Post 478017)
You mean the same line that gave up more sacks under Russ Grimm in 2006 than it did in 2007 under Zierlein? .

:rofl:

Great pull '76!!!! I think the tally was 48 sacks that season and 4 of the 5 starters from 06 will not be starting on sunday and Simmons/Smith have been out the past 5 games . The only real common factor is that the QB is the same and the RT is playing LT.

The author of this article stinks. What credentials does he have?? another blogger?

Steelman16 11-18-2008 11:37 PM

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Steelers' assistant coaches stink
This told me enough. Any writer who uses the word 'stink' in that context only suffices to show me his lack of vocabulary.

It's a kid-word. No real columnist would use that in his title unless it contextually meant something, i.e. pigs.

I'm sure he enjoyed writing it though.

billybob 11-19-2008 02:20 AM

Re: Steelers' assistant coaches stink
 
One thing i can say with relative safety here, is that the offense has not yet peaked. Just enough to make us a 7-3 , thats it. Could have easily been 9-1 right now. There are definately problems within the organization that needs to be adressed. Whether at the top,or from the core. I have to say for me personally ,it is not too late to begin our ascent to the top. The offense must start to pave thier own way. The defense have made thier point , and most of the heat is being attributed to the "mach 5 " .
We have not run the ball ,whether because of injuries, or bad play calling. I have said many times that we are more suited for the run. I agree with fast Willie, we need to run the ball, then we can allow Big Ben to pick the defense apart. Tomlinater has got to take charge and at least see what improvements need to be made, for the offense to catch up to our excellent defensive play. He is the man that hired Arians ,and His so called O-line coach. Maybe it is time that he intervenes and corrects the situation. He is the "Head Coach " the "Tomlinater".


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