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RoethlisBURGHer 01-13-2009 02:56 PM

Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Just remind them that thier team is the bastard child of the Cleveland Browns!

I was talking to someone who I thought was a friend of mine yesterday, and he started talking about the Ravens history. He brought up Jim Brown and Johnny Unitas!

I told him to shut the hell up. Unitas played for the Colts, all The championships and records all went with the Colts to Indianapolis. And that Jim Brown played for the Browns, who's history and records all stayed in Cleveland when the team moved and became the Baltimore Ravens.

I told him that his team isn't even 20 years old, and they really do not have a history. I then told him that the only history his team has right now is the fact that they are the bastard child of the Cleveland Browns.

He won't talk to me anymore, which really isn't that much of a loss. :tt03:

SteelCityMan786 01-13-2009 03:03 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
The History of the Browns for some reason still Belongs to the Browns. The Ravens history began with year 1 in Baltimore.

i82much 01-13-2009 03:06 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Too bad Johnny U isn't around anymore. He'd tell you how great Peyton Manning is, and in the same breath tell you everything he ever did belongs in Baltimore.

Look dude obviously the Steelers have an awesome history, and believe it or not folks in Baltimore respect that. It's really small of you disparage other cities - I mean hey, Johnny U wouldn't do it.

RoethlisBURGHer 01-13-2009 03:14 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i82much (Post 527190)
Too bad Johnny U isn't around anymore. He'd tell you how great Peyton Manning is, and in the same breath tell you everything he ever did belongs in Baltimore.

Look dude obviously the Steelers have an awesome history, and believe it or not folks in Baltimore respect that. It's really small of you disparage other cities - I mean hey, Johnny U wouldn't do it.

Where did I disparage the city of Baltimore? Please, point that out.

I have been the Baltimore three times, I love that city. I haven't been there in years and I cannot wait to eventually go back.

I was just correcting my now I guess ex-friend about his teams history. Johnny U played for the COLTS who moved to INDIANAPOLIS with all of the COLTS records.

And Jim Brown played for the CLEVELAND BROWNS, when the team moved from CLEVELAND to BALTIMORE the history, name, and colors of the BROWNS stayed in CLEVELAND and the first year of the history of the BALTIMORE RAVENS is 1996.

The Ravens have none of the history of the Browns or the Colts in thier background. My "friend" didn't like the fact that I pointed out that his team's history is as the bastard child if the Browns.

When the Colts moved they got to take the name, colors, and history to Indianapolis. When the Browns moved they got to keep the name, colors, and history. That really does make the Ravens the bastard child if the Browns.

It's just I have seen quite a few Ravens fans, my "friend" included, who try to bring the history of two teams that are not the Ravens (Cleveland Browns, Indianapolis Colts) into thier own teams history. I get rather sick of it.

I know Johnny U was loyal to the Ravens when they came to town, but I think he understood that his accomishments sit with the Colts. And while he may not of liked it, I think he knew that those accomplishments could not be changed because the only thing the Colts and Ravens have in common is that one played in Baltimore and one currently does.

I also think it's rather hypocritical of any Ravens fan to bitch about the Colts moving and then turn around and support the Ravens...who stole a football team from Cleveland to have one of thier own. If you support the Ravens, you shouldn't be allowed to bitch about the Colts moving to Indy.

i82much 01-13-2009 03:16 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RoethlisBURGHer (Post 527198)
Johnny U was loyal to the Ravens

'nuff said.

RoethlisBURGHer 01-13-2009 03:19 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i82much (Post 527201)
'nuff said.

Yes, and I have no problems with that. I just dont like when Ravens fans try to add the Colts or Browns history to thier own. Just be satisfied that all records show that anything the Colts did in Baltimore is recorded as the Baltimore Colts, IMHO.

i82much 01-13-2009 03:27 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Yeah it was tough seeing Cleveland lose their team. Knew how they felt.

RoethlisBURGHer 01-13-2009 03:31 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by i82much (Post 527213)
Yeah it was tough seeing Cleveland lose their team. Knew how they felt.

It was tough for me to, I live in Cleveland.

What Modell did was messed up. He was offered a new stadium twice, turned Cleveland down twice, and then said he couldn't get a new stadium out of the city and needed to move or he'd be losing money. That is why Cleveland got to keep the name, colors, and history. The city filed lsawsuits against Modell, the NFL, and the city of Baltimore and that's how all three got settled...along with Cleveland being gauranteed the next NFL expansion team.

i82much 01-13-2009 03:32 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
I'm glad they got to keep the name and records, etc. Wish we would have gotten the same deal.

TeeJay 01-13-2009 04:06 PM

Re: Wanna piss off a Ravens fan?
 
Then take them on a tour of Heinz Field......................:thumbsup:

Show them the delights of The Steeler Trophy Cabinet. :tt03:

Show them a real Stadium. :tt03:

Show them real fans. :tt03:

Take them on a tour of Pittsburgh......... :tt03:

.....and show them a FRANCHISE!!! :tt03::tt03::tt03:

:helmet:


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